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March 25, 2022, 04:38:04 PM |
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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
No, I do not support boycott Blindly. Cause it's also hampered on Russian innocent civilians who don't support this war and want peace. So I don't support the boycott and that doesn't mean that I support the killing of innocent civilians. The boycott will not gonna directly impact normal Russian citizens because they don’t have directly benefiting on it. The government is the main target for this movement so that the tax from casino will gonna cut off for them. As long Russian government keeps generating funds from outside there country, They can fund this war as long as they want so this reasoning of yours seems very insensitive to the people of Ukraine too since they are experiencing right now the aggression of Russian government that you are defending. This kind of movement is just temporary and not direct gonna hit Russian citizen. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) No matter what you say, it will have an impact on ordinary people so I can't support these boycotts in any way even though it is temporary, but what is the fault of innocent people? We have to look at both sides. The Russian civilians are also the civilian people of Ukraine. Russia also has a lot of sanctions.
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March 25, 2022, 06:57:37 PM |
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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
I hope you do the same to US or Israel, or it's for one side only?
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March 25, 2022, 08:21:42 PM |
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I'm not sure how accurate the sources are, but reportedly, in a videotaped news conference, the chair of Russia's Duma committee on energy said that when it comes to "friendly" countries, Russia is willing to be more flexible with payment options. Reportedly, chairman Pavel Zavalny said, "We have been proposing to China for a long time to switch to settlements in national currencies for rubles and yuan. With Turkey, it will be lira and rubles." And then he also added, "You can also trade bitcoins." Here is the source of the article (in Russian): http://pressmia.ru/pressclub/20220324/953580633.htmlone thing i noticed is that if Russia had a press conference on this then it would be held soon. Russia will benefit greatly if it accepts and requires buyers of their oil and gas to pay with bitcoin, oil is the most basic human need, without it all activities will stop and cause huge financial losses to countries that refuse.
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March 25, 2022, 08:42:15 PM |
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one thing i noticed is that if Russia had a press conference on this then it would be held soon. Russia will benefit greatly if it accepts and requires buyers of their oil and gas to pay with bitcoin, oil is the most basic human need, without it all activities will stop and cause huge financial losses to countries that refuse.
Since Russia is currently under various sanctions, they will now want to look at the options that will benefit them. And Bitcoin will be able to give them a solution to all those problems. Since Bitcoin is already being accepted on gambling websites, they do not have to face many problems in this sector. Now if any player wants to boycott the russian gambling website then it is his/her personal matter and we must give priority to his/her personal opinion.
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March 25, 2022, 09:34:52 PM |
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No matter what you say, it will have an impact on ordinary people so I can't support these boycotts in any way even though it is temporary, but what is the fault of innocent people? We have to look at both sides. The Russian civilians are also the civilian people of Ukraine. Russia also has a lot of sanctions.
You got the point. These organized boycotting would certainly lead to this. Even innocent companies and people who are working with those gambling companies and operators are going to be affected. Well, if you boycott Russia, it's mean if you include to those innocent ones. But we all have different view on this invasion and everyone sees Russia as a whole to be the bad guy on this matter whether they have innocent people living there or none.
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March 25, 2022, 10:30:42 PM |
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There are proactive ways to Stop any conflict or situation (war) one found himself. Boycotting Russian's own Gambling company might not be the best way to Stop the war. It will only affects the Nation's GDP, but remember other Countries will support Russian to Sustain during the war. If you boycott these companies, what of those people that have invested a lot.
Although it is a war tactics, but innocent people suffered the more.
The best ways to stop war are:
1. Set up a committee for the both sides of the war plus a neutral committee
2. Call the two parties for a dialogue
3. Settle the immediate and remote causes of the war.
With these I believe war can be called to a resolution stage.
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March 25, 2022, 10:40:05 PM |
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No matter what you say, it will have an impact on ordinary people so I can't support these boycotts in any way even though it is temporary, but what is the fault of innocent people? We have to look at both sides. The Russian civilians are also the civilian people of Ukraine. Russia also has a lot of sanctions.
You got the point. These organized boycotting would certainly lead to this. Even innocent companies and people who are working with those gambling companies and operators are going to be affected. Well, if you boycott Russia, it's mean if you include to those innocent ones. But we all have different view on this invasion and everyone sees Russia as a whole to be the bad guy on this matter whether they have innocent people living there or none. Lets just accept the reality on which treatment or generalization would really be applied in all citizens of Russia which is true that everyone do seem to be the bad guy as of this moment on where globally we would really be seeing this way which is actually sad and should'nt really be that generalized.It do just happens that their Leader did make out some shitty move which do make out effect on overall aspect which is something that we couldnt do about it. Sanctions are everywhere now and plus having those boycotts and other related things which could not be stopped.
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March 25, 2022, 11:14:57 PM |
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No matter what you say, it will have an impact on ordinary people so I can't support these boycotts in any way even though it is temporary, but what is the fault of innocent people? We have to look at both sides. The Russian civilians are also the civilian people of Ukraine. Russia also has a lot of sanctions.
You got the point. These organized boycotting would certainly lead to this. Even innocent companies and people who are working with those gambling companies and operators are going to be affected. Well, if you boycott Russia, it's mean if you include to those innocent ones. But we all have different view on this invasion and everyone sees Russia as a whole to be the bad guy on this matter whether they have innocent people living there or none. Lets just accept the reality on which treatment or generalization would really be applied in all citizens of Russia which is true that everyone do seem to be the bad guy as of this moment on where globally we would really be seeing this way which is actually sad and should'nt really be that generalized.It do just happens that their Leader did make out some shitty move which do make out effect on overall aspect which is something that we couldnt do about it. Sanctions are everywhere now and plus having those boycotts and other related things which could not be stopped. Yeah, I tend to agree that we shouldn't generalized even though the country's leader did some mistake but that doesn't mean we have to include the innocent people who are working hard too. Maybe the west would willing to do that since they were near at Europe but for Asian countries I don't know about that since the News circulating that they don't want to get in trouble but if they find an opportunity to make some business deal they would like to accept it especially in Russia.
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March 26, 2022, 05:54:37 AM |
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Of course, sanctions and boycotts are unlikely to stop Putin's war in Ukraine and bring an end to the crisis. While there is only a marginal economic impact, it is still a huge signal to the Russian people that something is wrong. The collapse of the Russian ruble and Russian stock market show how nervous the middle class has become. If the crisis is not managed and the sanctions do not lift soon, Putin will be in real trouble and will lose the last big standing support he still has. There is no doubt that the sanctions and boycotts will be painful for the Russian people, but it is arguably the only way to send a clear message to Kremlin.
Still not effective after several side boycott did by United State and Europe Country and Putin as Russian president keep continue his invasion to Ukraine before Volodymyr Zelenskyy as Ukraine President declare give up with Russian invasion, have several economic side have boycott and I think recommended for gambling platform from Russia to boycott is not fair with invasion did by president not with gambling platform, not have way with financial invasion war coming from gambling platform and looks not logic reason with many asking from world people to boycott Russia gambling platform. The reason for boycotting Russian casinos is that the more money someone loses there, the more money is going into the Russian budget in taxes from these casinos. If less money is flowing from the casinos to the Russian government, this war will last maybe a few minutes, maybe a few hours, or maybe a few days less, and maybe in this way we will save someone's life. I don’t think a significant amount of money is going in the Russian economy from the taxes in casino platforms. And if there is a shortage of government money, I think they will get support from many others states for example China is still supporting this WAR. So that just boycotting Russian gambling sites this war will never stop i think. Valid point. Only those people who own a gambling business will be affected and the other perpetrators and supporters of war won't really be affected because they have other means to support themselves in the first place. These casino owners would be on the losing end if the boycott would be done in general. The innocent ones would suffer as well. In addition, boycotting will not totally eliminate the conflict and war among Ukraine and Russia. The only way to stop this is for Putin to halt his aggressive moves against Ukraine. Which I don't really think he'll do anytime soon. One of sad reality happening as those innocent people are badly affected on this boycotting of their businesses, for sure we can see more discriminations in regards with this discussion because many people around the globe sympathize on what happen in Ukraine so I guess many will join the call just to slowly hit this to Russian government. Boycotting will not really eliminate the conflict since this could add up the tension towards the affected country and might this will make them more aggressive and do more nasty actions. With this kind of matter, I guess this kind of boycott better will implement only to the people who supported the war imagine right those people don't want to get been in the issue and their business and daily lives get affected because of the misunderstanding for both countries there's a lot of life will suffer. Ideal if only people want to have the war not the people who want a peace life. On some cases yes because not all of the citizens agree for this war to happen some of them condemn on what Putin do to Ukraine so for this unfair treatment to them and generalize them all will create another chapter of war, also this will create another racism just because their government do some nasty actions. Crypto related industry should step out on this and don't join the call about boycotting since this will back fire to all online business owners who support if Russia will back on his shape. We require this type of behavior because, as I have stated, it has the potential to lead to another altercation or even a civil war. We should be at the center as a result of what is taking place, but I believe that Russia is being unfair in doing so, and that we are also being negatively impacted as a result of the events taking place. Although the price continues to rise, and we are in a difficult financial situation, I believe it is best to remain where we are and not to ban Russian citizens because of the actions of their government because we are confident that they do not like of what has been done by their government to Ukraine. In some points its looks like an against to each other might give another fuel of the war, lets the president and the whole organization handle this kind of situation preventing more urge to the each part to make another trouble and problem to the people who really don't want to commit war and just a peace because its really affect a lot of lives.
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March 26, 2022, 07:37:42 AM |
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There are proactive ways to Stop any conflict or situation (war) one found himself. Boycotting Russian's own Gambling company might not be the best way to Stop the war. It will only affects the Nation's GDP, but remember other Countries will support Russian to Sustain during the war. If you boycott these companies, what of those people that have invested a lot.
Although it is a war tactics, but innocent people suffered the more.
The best ways to stop war are:
1. Set up a committee for the both sides of the war plus a neutral committee
2. Call the two parties for a dialogue
3. Settle the immediate and remote causes of the war.
With these I believe war can be called to a resolution stage.
Do you think UN, NATO and other group don't resort to a peace talk before imposing those multiple sanctions to Russia? Ukraine President even have a several peace talk with Putin during the war yet Russian force never stop on there aggression. So tell me, If Russia have unlimited support from other country, why they are now doing desperate move just to sell there oil on there allied country if they will really have that backup. There reaction against economic sanctions only proves how it was effective. Russian oligarchs fund this war so cutting down the financial souce will gonna hurt there military spending. Putin already invested on this war and hewill not back down unless he will get his goal which is the resources of Ukraine. Peace will gonna waste all there efforts to plot down this war.
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March 26, 2022, 08:00:34 AM |
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Do you think UN, NATO and other group don't resort to a peace talk before imposing those multiple sanctions to Russia? Ukraine President even have a several peace talk with Putin during the war yet Russian force never stop on there aggression. So tell me, If Russia have unlimited support from other country, why they are now doing desperate move just to sell there oil on there allied country if they will really have that backup. The war wouldn't have happened if sitting down and talking was actually effective. Maybe after the sanctions are in place, and they start talking again, then maybe, just maybe, highly unlikely though. The boycott will not gonna directly impact normal Russian citizens because they don’t have directly benefiting on it. The government is the main target for this movement so that the tax from casino will gonna cut off for them. As long Russian government keeps generating funds from outside there country, They can fund this war as long as they want so this reasoning of yours seems very insensitive to the people of Ukraine too since they are experiencing right now the aggression of Russian government that you are defending. This kind of movement is just temporary and not direct gonna hit Russian citizen. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It absolutely will. What, are business owners now part of the government? No, they're not, they're also Russian citizens. Taxes? So you're telling us to cut off literally income sources of families in Russia so that the government could stop earning from them? Might as well have asked us to boycott the entirety of Russia, cut them off literally from the world.
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March 26, 2022, 08:45:11 AM |
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Putin did rally addressing Russians today who gathered in large numbers . It appears he still has the support of some people from the large number that gathered or they are just party faithfuls who are fulfilling the party obligation as members. But on a global scale, Putin seem to be alone except with the recent development with China and India wanting to establish trading deals with Putin.
If I had a common interest with Russia because Ukraine had wronged me in the past, I would not have come out in public to say so, and I believe that is what is happening on a worldwide spectrum to some people who have been misled by the Russia-Ukraine conflict, there are some countries apart from China who will take side with Russian that is why I don't believe the votes in the United Nations just an empty barrel. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, sanctions or no sanctions, Russia will do anything they want because they were well prepared before the conflict, you know you can't start what you can't finish. Anyways, let's end this war and make peace again ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) This is why some of us are wondering if Russia is really in the wrong side, then why is the US not even going there to fight against Russian army? Its time Zelenskyy open his mind to see he is not going to win this fight but will put Ukrainians to death instead. Make peace because after all its not too late for the country, they could ask help also from other countries to fix whats being destroyed. Lets not drag everyone in this conflict that even the sports player are punished. That's one political aspect of this war however sports have been dragged into it. FIFA and UEFA both suspended Russia and this will only increase hate against the country. When you see announcement from the governing bodies, it allows other smaller institutions follow the game. Gambling sites can also restrict Russian players in order to please the international community. Again i said most decisions are political based , just following the US agenda.
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March 26, 2022, 11:24:09 AM |
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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
I hope you do the same to US or Israel, or it's for one side only? Great but simple answer lol, we are just looking for the bad action taken by Russia against Ukraine but we are not digging to what is the reason why this war become massive . and also Looking to what the war stands now? Russia is winning this battle and truth will be reveal in the near future. But of course i am supporting this act for the peace .
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March 26, 2022, 11:43:35 AM |
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There are proactive ways to Stop any conflict or situation (war) one found himself. Boycotting Russian's own Gambling company might not be the best way to Stop the war. It will only affects the Nation's GDP, but remember other Countries will support Russian to Sustain during the war. If you boycott these companies, what of those people that have invested a lot.
Although it is a war tactics, but innocent people suffered the more.
The best ways to stop war are:
1. Set up a committee for the both sides of the war plus a neutral committee
2. Call the two parties for a dialogue
3. Settle the immediate and remote causes of the war.
With these I believe war can be called to a resolution stage.
Everything is correct, but only in theory. The situation is quite different in practice. Now in this conflict, any third party, no matter how much it talks about its neutrality, will still be under the control of usa. In recent years, the whole of Europe "lies" under American politicians. And the conflict in Ukraine is the struggle of Russian civilization with America with its values and worldview. And the humanistic and moral values of America, as it is now clear to everyone, I hope, are not at all so good, and on the contrary, they hinder the development of the entire civilization and, from the point of view of morality and justice, are completely ugly. And they require replacement, which is what Russia and China are trying to do. So nothing will work.
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March 26, 2022, 12:06:23 PM |
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There are proactive ways to Stop any conflict or situation (war) one found himself. Boycotting Russian's own Gambling company might not be the best way to Stop the war. It will only affects the Nation's GDP, but remember other Countries will support Russian to Sustain during the war. If you boycott these companies, what of those people that have invested a lot.
Although it is a war tactics, but innocent people suffered the more.
The best ways to stop war are:
1. Set up a committee for the both sides of the war plus a neutral committee
2. Call the two parties for a dialogue
3. Settle the immediate and remote causes of the war.
With these I believe war can be called to a resolution stage.
I'm sure other countries have advised Russia to stop fighting, but what can they do if the Russian side doesn't want to stop the war? Other countries can form committees for both sides and call on both sides for dialogue, but there have been no good results so far. Maybe the Russians really have no intention of stopping the war until what they want is achieved. I think world leaders from all countries that are not involved in the war are already trying to stop the war and hopefully, the war can end as soon as possible. We know that there are countries that still support Russia, and maybe that's why Russia still looks strong and doesn't show any desire to stop the war. But indeed, in this case, it is the people who suffer more from the war.
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March 26, 2022, 06:07:12 PM |
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No matter what you say, it will have an impact on ordinary people so I can't support these boycotts in any way even though it is temporary, but what is the fault of innocent people? We have to look at both sides. The Russian civilians are also the civilian people of Ukraine. Russia also has a lot of sanctions.
You got the point. These organized boycotting would certainly lead to this. Even innocent companies and people who are working with those gambling companies and operators are going to be affected. Well, if you boycott Russia, it's mean if you include to those innocent ones. But we all have different view on this invasion and everyone sees Russia as a whole to be the bad guy on this matter whether they have innocent people living there or none. Lets just accept the reality on which treatment or generalization would really be applied in all citizens of Russia which is true that everyone do seem to be the bad guy as of this moment on where globally we would really be seeing this way which is actually sad and should'nt really be that generalized.It do just happens that their Leader did make out some shitty move which do make out effect on overall aspect which is something that we couldnt do about it. Sanctions are everywhere now and plus having those boycotts and other related things which could not be stopped. Yeah, I tend to agree that we shouldn't generalized even though the country's leader did some mistake but that doesn't mean we have to include the innocent people who are working hard too. Maybe the west would willing to do that since they were near at Europe but for Asian countries I don't know about that since the News circulating that they don't want to get in trouble but if they find an opportunity to make some business deal they would like to accept it especially in Russia. Ethical to do so? Maybe not for most people's eyes but we do have different perceptions and views in life when it comes to this manner but actually when most countries do give out sanctions and other negative move towards Russia then there's nothing we can do about that.Majority does always wins which means it would be pointless if you do tend to resist out or its better to be on this way if they do really like to be on this way but honestly it would really just simply hurt up those business owners and not totally the government itself.They arent relying on certain industries on major aspect.
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March 26, 2022, 06:27:50 PM |
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The best ways to stop war are:
1. Set up a committee for the both sides of the war plus a neutral committee
2. Call the two parties for a dialogue
3. Settle the immediate and remote causes of the war.
With these I believe war can be called to a resolution stage.
Ukraine and Russia have been doing that. But still, there seems to be no sign of these two calling for unity and stopping the war as soon as possible. Both of them won't go low with their ego and will still to continue beat and defeat each of them. In the first week, they've been having peace talks but it didn't do. The only thing that will solve this war is for Ukraine to surrender and that would be peace for both of them. We know that Russia won't stop even with economic sanctions. It's actually hard to maintain balance for these if we're thinking about it.
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March 26, 2022, 06:32:21 PM |
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We know that there are countries that still support Russia, and maybe that's why Russia still looks strong and doesn't show any desire to stop the war. But indeed, in this case, it is the people who suffer more from the war.
Indeed, carrying out a boycott of products and services originating from Russia is an activity against Putin but who suffer the most from war are the people... Just look at today, the increase in oil prices caused by the Russian invasion and also economic sanctions from Europe to Russia made the prices of daily necessities rise and also hampered the distribution. It's hard to predict when tensions between Russia and Ukraine will stop, we can only pray that it won't be long.
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March 26, 2022, 07:23:20 PM |
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Following the sanctions already placed on Russia and some of it oligarchs, Also boycotting of all Russian gambling platforms will be a good one if it will actually help in a way to stop the war, though I don't have full support on harming the business of the innocent citizens that are not in support of this war. But there a say that when one finger touches oil that every other finger will also be affected by the oil.
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March 26, 2022, 07:36:48 PM |
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and also Looking to what the war stands now? Russia is winning this battle and truth will be reveal in the near future.
There is no indication that Russia is winning this conflict. They are pulling back from their original goals to save face with their people, because they don't want to end up as a complete loser. It is reported that Russian forces are shifting their focus away from their country-wide attack on Ukraine and refocusing on "liberating" the separatist region of Donbass. This is obvious proof that this war is not going according to their plans and that they were not ready for such resistance from Ukrainian forces. The current situation doesn't seem to favor Putin's regime either. There have been multiple reports of a large number of Russian casualties and the war is becoming less popular in Russia. The "victory" that Putin was counting on is fading away and many Russians are now asking if Putin's strategy of forcing the Ukrainian government to surrender is the best way to end this conflict.
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