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April 02, 2022, 09:27:49 AM
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That makes it a worse argument. How is the fault of Putin and the Russian government also the fault of an innocent Russian gambling site owner who might be against the war? If we see an old Russian lady selling fruit on the sidewalk, should she also be banned from selling fruit? I shake my head at his proposal.

Indeed, as much as possible, we have to be human, don't make an equal judgment on people based on their nationality or skin. When people say stop being racist, we should it's wrong to be a racist, and also sanctioning a gambling site because they are operated in Russia is like being a racist.

That kind of crap is only helping the Russians and their de-Na*ification propaganda. The Russians say they are de-Na*ifying Ukraine. If you go full racist on the innocent Russian people, it will only make the Russians more united against the foreigners. It is definitely not going to help anybody. In fact, it will make the current situation even worse. Seizing the Russian properties in Europe was a big mistake too.

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April 02, 2022, 09:36:22 AM
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Indeed, as much as possible, we have to be human, don't make an equal judgment on people based on their nationality or skin. When people say stop being racist, we should it's wrong to be a racist, and also sanctioning a gambling site because they are operated in Russia is like being a racist.
That we should be objective in responding to everything about the war from Russia to not involve anything else such as an attempt to boycott gambling platforms from Russia, has absolutely no impact on gambling sites because they are not involved with the activities of the Russo-Ukrainian war.

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April 02, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
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Indeed, as much as possible, we have to be human, don't make an equal judgment on people based on their nationality or skin. When people say stop being racist, we should it's wrong to be a racist, and also sanctioning a gambling site because they are operated in Russia is like being a racist.
That we should be objective in responding to everything about the war from Russia to not involve anything else such as an attempt to boycott gambling platforms from Russia, has absolutely no impact on gambling sites because they are not involved with the activities of the Russo-Ukrainian war.
What's important is that we can help stop the war without involving other things like racism, religion, or anything else. Many things have happened during or after the war that we don't exactly know. The vital industries that have been affected by the war and, of course, the innocent people continue to suffer. Hopefully, there is a peaceful way from both sides and the other party who is not involved in the war does not add to the heat of the situation so that the war can end soon.

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April 02, 2022, 11:56:52 AM
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Indeed, as much as possible, we have to be human, don't make an equal judgment on people based on their nationality or skin. When people say stop being racist, we should it's wrong to be a racist, and also sanctioning a gambling site because they are operated in Russia is like being a racist.
That we should be objective in responding to everything about the war from Russia to not involve anything else such as an attempt to boycott gambling platforms from Russia, has absolutely no impact on gambling sites because they are not involved with the activities of the Russo-Ukrainian war.
What's important is that we can help stop the war without involving other things like racism, religion, or anything else. Many things have happened during or after the war that we don't exactly know. The vital industries that have been affected by the war and, of course, the innocent people continue to suffer. Hopefully, there is a peaceful way from both sides and the other party who is not involved in the war does not add to the heat of the situation so that the war can end soon.

On other hand seems the noise about the wat already stop so I guess they are now in cool minds so what's best for now is to eliminate those thought's about boycotting russian product and services since this might help to cool down the tension as well its good for other innocent people to let their businesses run freely. So hopefully we can really see an announcement about the war is totally over between those conflicted country.

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April 02, 2022, 12:03:11 PM
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Indeed, as much as possible, we have to be human, don't make an equal judgment on people based on their nationality or skin. When people say stop being racist, we should it's wrong to be a racist, and also sanctioning a gambling site because they are operated in Russia is like being a racist.
That we should be objective in responding to everything about the war from Russia to not involve anything else such as an attempt to boycott gambling platforms from Russia, has absolutely no impact on gambling sites because they are not involved with the activities of the Russo-Ukrainian war.
What's important is that we can help stop the war without involving other things like racism, religion, or anything else. Many things have happened during or after the war that we don't exactly know. The vital industries that have been affected by the war and, of course, the innocent people continue to suffer. Hopefully, there is a peaceful way from both sides and the other party who is not involved in the war does not add to the heat of the situation so that the war can end soon.

On other hand seems the noise about the wat already stop so I guess they are now in cool minds so what's best for now is to eliminate those thought's about boycotting russian product and services since this might help to cool down the tension as well its good for other innocent people to let their businesses run freely. So hopefully we can really see an announcement about the war is totally over between those conflicted country.

The war is still ongoing. It’s not just giving a huge impact right now because it’s been a month and people already aware on the war that’s going on. Russian is currently in the dormant position since Ukraine is now fighting back using unlimited supply of military equipment. Last report was Russian reported that they invaded again part of Mariupol last day. This war will not gonna finish unless Russia get what they want because they have oligarch backing there military expenses.

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April 02, 2022, 02:15:39 PM
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Indeed, as much as possible, we have to be human, don't make an equal judgment on people based on their nationality or skin. When people say stop being racist, we should it's wrong to be a racist, and also sanctioning a gambling site because they are operated in Russia is like being a racist.
That we should be objective in responding to everything about the war from Russia to not involve anything else such as an attempt to boycott gambling platforms from Russia, has absolutely no impact on gambling sites because they are not involved with the activities of the Russo-Ukrainian war.
What's important is that we can help stop the war without involving other things like racism, religion, or anything else. Many things have happened during or after the war that we don't exactly know. The vital industries that have been affected by the war and, of course, the innocent people continue to suffer. Hopefully, there is a peaceful way from both sides and the other party who is not involved in the war does not add to the heat of the situation so that the war can end soon.

Agree. If there's a way to possibly peacefully resolve all of these, it would be better because a lot of innocent lives are already at stake the moment war started up until to this date that it is continuously happening. Many establishments, sectors, and industries has been heavily affected most especially in Ukraine due to the invasion. Each day, more and more civilians are being traumatized and fall into their demise despite the promise that the military won't target civilians.

Although I'm not really in favor of boycotting in general, but a collective boycott to those who deserves it is what I really want. After all, not everyone wants war. It's just saddening that most Russians according to the survey conducted wants it as much as Putin. Hopefully, the conflict between them will be over soon.
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April 02, 2022, 05:33:11 PM
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However, when it comes to 1xbit, this is not a Russian casino, but registered on Cyprus, so it is a mistake to include it on this list.
Dumb as usual shill. Everyone are already aware of the fact that Russians run 1xbit which is linked to 1xbet who registered their site in Cyprus for licensing purposes.

Almost all of the evidence I found suggests that 1xbit casino is closely connected to the 1xBET platform, which is well known to come from Russian owners. Some members have even demonstrated that all the money goes into the same wallets. And the 1xbit representative here has confirmed it as well. Therefore, it really does not matter what one 1xbit shill says.

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April 02, 2022, 05:54:51 PM
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I also keep getting ads of 1x bet casino on my phone all the time. I’m not sure why but I guess it’s because I typed the word somewhere and somehow it got picked up by advertising agencies? I’m always trying to clear the caches but the bull shit casino ad never goes off. I’m suspecting there are other apps too which are connected with the site and that’s why they keep popping the ads for it.

Or I think 1xbet has pretty good amount of money to spend on the advertising budgets. Not sure how many people might have been victim for this. I have also seen similar marketing on the earning websites.

It’s questionable whether they are really scammers or big boy scammers!!
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April 02, 2022, 07:14:13 PM
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However, when it comes to 1xbit, this is not a Russian casino, but registered on Cyprus, so it is a mistake to include it on this list.
Dumb as usual shill. Everyone are already aware of the fact that Russians run 1xbit which is linked to 1xbet who registered their site in Cyprus for licensing purposes.
not surprised at all. the dude has been a defender of 1xbit since he got into their campaign(I think). anyway, the funny thing is when he says that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus, coincidentally 1xbet is also registered in Cyprus Roll Eyes. not sure why he keeps denying that 1xbit and 1xbet are connected.

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April 02, 2022, 08:36:15 PM
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The way everyone is sanctioning things in Russia, it seems there are no one living in Russia that the 144.1 million people are not human LOL

Imagine from the point of a Russian Civilian who is not supporting the war in Ukraine, who wants peace dialog and want to see the brotherhood between these two county. But just because he is a Russian now he can not visit an EU county or in a state of America , he can not have assets in these regions, he can not conduct any business at all, his assets are being seized . He has no right in those countries. Or may be he is in any of these countries living for long time. From now on his life will be a harder. The Russian military is killing innocent civilians but the rest of the word is making Russian civilians life a misery.

What are we achieving from this WAR?

PS: This is not an statement in favor of 1xBET and 1xBit . These scammers should not be existed in the first place.
Well said.
I would boycott those scam casinos instead. I don't know any other Russian-based casinos but it's not all about boycotting that's everything with them.
What if those legitimate and good casinos that are based from there are just the typical businesses that would surely be hit and affected if such a plan had been executed. Well, I'm not a technical expert on this but there really are a lot of consequences that will happen.
Yes! Because Russia has a bad look from most part of the world as they started the war with Ukraine every one feels they are doing the worst thing ever, so if it's not legit or maybe some gets scammed it would cause more harm than good.
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April 02, 2022, 09:07:01 PM
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@Marvelman. It appears that you created this thread as an attack on 1xbit only because the owners are Russian? The site is considered a scam in this forum because they might have been reports of selective scamming on their own users similar to what HitBTC has done. However, to boycott because they are Russian should not be supported. There are many peace loving Russians who do not support what Putin has done to Ukraine.

I support the boycott of Russian casinos on the grounds that the tax money supports the war. And this war is evil and should end as soon as possible.
However, when it comes to 1xbit, this is not a Russian casino, but registered on Cyprus, so it is a mistake to include it on this list.
Even though its a mistake on 1xbit to be listed but its still worth for it to be boycotted..

So boycott it, but it still has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.



However, when it comes to 1xbit, this is not a Russian casino, but registered on Cyprus, so it is a mistake to include it on this list.
Dumb as usual shill. Everyone are already aware of the fact that Russians run 1xbit which is linked to 1xbet who registered their site in Cyprus for licensing purposes.

Read again what you wrote.
If the casino is registered in Cyprus, it is not Russian.



However, when it comes to 1xbit, this is not a Russian casino, but registered on Cyprus, so it is a mistake to include it on this list.
Dumb as usual shill. Everyone are already aware of the fact that Russians run 1xbit which is linked to 1xbet who registered their site in Cyprus for licensing purposes.

Almost all of the evidence I found suggests that 1xbit casino is closely connected to the 1xBET platform, which is well known to come from Russian owners. Some members have even demonstrated that all the money goes into the same wallets. And the 1xbit representative here has confirmed it as well. Therefore, it really does not matter what one 1xbit shill says.


Show one proof that 1xbit is registered in Russia. Because all those available indicate that it is registered in Cyprus.



However, when it comes to 1xbit, this is not a Russian casino, but registered on Cyprus, so it is a mistake to include it on this list.
Dumb as usual shill. Everyone are already aware of the fact that Russians run 1xbit which is linked to 1xbet who registered their site in Cyprus for licensing purposes.
not surprised at all. the dude has been a defender of 1xbit since he got into their campaign(I think). anyway, the funny thing is when he says that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus, coincidentally 1xbet is also registered in Cyprus Roll Eyes. not sure why he keeps denying that 1xbit and 1xbet are connected.


I dont defend 1xbit here, I just say that it is not Russian casino, if you can proof that it is Russian or it is not registered in Cyprus just show it.
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April 03, 2022, 06:50:01 AM
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On other hand seems the noise about the wat already stop so I guess they are now in cool minds so what's best for now is to eliminate those thought's about boycotting russian product and services since this might help to cool down the tension as well its good for other innocent people to let their businesses run freely. So hopefully we can really see an announcement about the war is totally over between those conflicted country.
Hopefully, the noise about the war can really stop and there is no intention to continue the war again. Maybe if there were negotiations that would really benefit both countries, Russia could end the war and not try to pressure Ukraine any longer. Boycotting Russian products and services might make the Russians heat up again and trigger them to continue their military aggression against Ukraine.

Agree. If there's a way to possibly peacefully resolve all of these, it would be better because a lot of innocent lives are already at stake the moment war started up until to this date that it is continuously happening. Many establishments, sectors, and industries has been heavily affected most especially in Ukraine due to the invasion. Each day, more and more civilians are being traumatized and fall into their demise despite the promise that the military won't target civilians.

Although I'm not really in favor of boycotting in general, but a collective boycott to those who deserves it is what I really want. After all, not everyone wants war. It's just saddening that most Russians according to the survey conducted wants it as much as Putin. Hopefully, the conflict between them will be over soon.
Yes, trauma is a definite consequence of war because it will surely happen to the people who are still alive and many of them will probably find it hard to move on with their lives. They must be haunted by a fear that may not be able to disappear in their lives. That is the most severe consequence that will be experienced by the victims of the war, in addition to the many industrial sectors that have fallen.

We don't know for sure but hopefully, the conflict will end soon because that is the hope of all people from other countries.

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April 03, 2022, 09:44:04 AM
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However, when it comes to 1xbit, this is not a Russian casino, but registered on Cyprus, so it is a mistake to include it on this list.
Dumb as usual shill. Everyone are already aware of the fact that Russians run 1xbit which is linked to 1xbet who registered their site in Cyprus for licensing purposes.

Almost all of the evidence I found suggests that 1xbit casino is closely connected to the 1xBET platform, which is well known to come from Russian owners. Some members have even demonstrated that all the money goes into the same wallets. And the 1xbit representative here has confirmed it as well. Therefore, it really does not matter what one 1xbit shill says.


Show one proof that 1xbit is registered in Russia. Because all those available indicate that it is registered in Cyprus.

Show one proof that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus. Moreover, please show one proof that 1xbit is a registered company anywhere. Dumbass shill. I recommend that you read my previous post again and stop writing nonsense.

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Show one proof that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus. Moreover, please show one proof that 1xbit is a registered company anywhere. Dumbass shill. I recommend that you read my previous post again and stop writing nonsense.

dude don't get me wrong, I mostly disagree with Endrogan but, 1xbit and 1xbet are registered in Cyprus. but the company is owned by Russians. Endrogan keeps insisting that because 1xbit is registered in Cyprus means that it is not a Russian company.

I dont defend 1xbit here, I just say that it is not Russian casino, if you can proof that it is Russian or it is not registered in Cyprus just show it.
did you not read what I said?

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Show one proof that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus. Moreover, please show one proof that 1xbit is a registered company anywhere. Dumbass shill. I recommend that you read my previous post again and stop writing nonsense.

dude don't get me wrong, I mostly disagree with Endrogan but, 1xbit and 1xbet are registered in Cyprus. but the company is owned by Russians. Endrogan keeps insisting that because 1xbit is registered in Cyprus means that it is not a Russian company.

Yes, I know what you mean. I know 1XBET was registered in Cyprus to avoid lawsuits and legal consequences, even their parent company has filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying fines. However, I would like to see some proof from Erdogan to substantiate his claims. That guy keeps contradicting himself. He claims 1xbit is not connected to 1XBET, but now he says that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus? Why?

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did you not read what I said?

Sorry, I probably read it too fast. (I answered like taht automatically, because you usually don't agree with me Wink )

Show one proof that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus. Moreover, please show one proof that 1xbit is a registered company anywhere. Dumbass shill. I recommend that you read my previous post again and stop writing nonsense.

dude don't get me wrong, I mostly disagree with Endrogan but, 1xbit and 1xbet are registered in Cyprus. but the company is owned by Russians. Endrogan keeps insisting that because 1xbit is registered in Cyprus means that it is not a Russian company.

Yes, I know what you mean. I know 1XBET was registered in Cyprus to avoid lawsuits and legal consequences, even their parent company has filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying fines. However, I would like to see some proof from Erdogan to substantiate his claims. That guy keeps contradicting himself. He claims 1xbit is not connected to 1XBET, but now he says that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus? Why?


So you don't care that 1X Corp N.V. is registered in Cyprus you just want to argue with me?

About 1X Corp N.V. , you admitted that they are registered in Cyprus, so will you remove 1xbet from opening post? You can skip 1xbit because you have no evidence that it belongs to 1X Corp N.V. right? (I also did not found.) However, if you have no evidence that 1xbit is a company registered in Russia, then on what basis do you say so?

Ps. If you want to chat about what I think about that, open a separate thread in the off-topic section and I'll be happy to explain it to you. Here lets stick to the facts.

Ps2. However, I will give you the reason why I once discussed this topic and when I was convinced (although not completely):

However, I am surprised that I did not notice this on wikipedia before, as I have looked at it several times in the past and I think originally "1xbit" was not there.
Anyway, now I don't really have much to argue about. So I will leave this discussion aside, but to be honest, I am not entirely convinced yet.
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April 03, 2022, 02:11:17 PM
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did you not read what I said?

Sorry, I probably read it too fast. (I answered like taht automatically, because you usually don't agree with me Wink )
what is there to disagree with, since you are right that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus and so is 1xbit. the company is owned by Russians and members consider 1xbit a Russian company which is why members want to include it on the list of gambling sites that should be boycotted. personally, I am not a huge fan of boycotting since it barely affects the government but can heavily affect the civilians.

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did you not read what I said?

Sorry, I probably read it too fast. (I answered like taht automatically, because you usually don't agree with me Wink )
what is there to disagree with, since you are right that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus and so is 1xbit. the company is owned by Russians and members consider 1xbit a Russian company which is why members want to include it on the list of gambling sites that should be boycotted. personally, I am not a huge fan of boycotting since it barely affects the government but can heavily affect the civilians.

Actually, according to the available information, main owner of 1X Corp N.V. Sergey Karshkov, due to problems with the Russian tax office, changed his citizenship to Cypriot:

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Karshkov, an ex-police major and head of the "K" department of the Internal Affairs Directorate for the Bryansk region - was granted Cypriot citizenship in 2020 by obtaining a "Golden Passport" through substantial investments in the country.

Probably the same was done by his two partners:

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Alongside Russian billionaire Semiokhin and Kazorin, all three have fled to Cyprus to avoid Russian prosecution.

Anyway, it's impossible to call 1X Corp N.V. a Russian company.
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April 03, 2022, 08:45:53 PM
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So you don't care that 1X Corp N.V. is registered in Cyprus you just want to argue with me?

You just end up all tangled in your own lies...

About 1X Corp N.V. , you admitted that they are registered in Cyprus, so will you remove 1xbet from opening post?

No. Did I ever mention 1X Corp N.V. and where is it registered? It's amazing all that one could learn by reading.

You can skip 1xbit because you have no evidence that it belongs to 1X Corp N.V. right? (I also did not found.) However, if you have no evidence that 1xbit is a company registered in Russia, then on what basis do you say so?

You have yet to provide evidence that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus. Now you are evading the question?

Let me remind you again:

Show one proof that 1xbit is registered in Russia. Because all those available indicate that it is registered in Cyprus.

Show one proof that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus. Moreover, please show one proof that 1xbit is a registered company anywhere. Dumbass shill. I recommend that you read my previous post again and stop writing nonsense.

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April 04, 2022, 07:38:29 PM
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Are there a lot of Russian gambling platforms, that everyone wants to boycott? Those who want to do it, do you even gamble there? Or you just want to boycott something you dont use? Funny. I think mostly Russians are the only one who gamble there. Maybe someone from neighbour countries use them. But not many people abroad Russia, gamble there.  There are so many gambling platforms nowadays, than no one will even noticed that part of them are being under boycott.
It is for sure - war is not only the physical damage, it is more of the psychological damage as well. The affect are lasting. I am not sure if boycott will place any burden on the Russian government. If the world is planning any sanctions on Russia - than no doubt Russia is a powerful state too. They have their plans of action too. So all the boycotts will go unnoticed.
Not effective with how many time boycott so far and Russia looks on right or good position right now, after their local money have drop value they have innovation with accepted bitcoin as gas payment. Many countries still need gas supply from Russia and they have allow to buy bitcoin and purchase it for getting gas from Russia.

Look the same thing if wanna try boycott with gambling platform from Russia still not any effective and many user keep loyal using Russia gambling site platform, but we hope war between Russia and Ukraine could stop as soon possible and not any citizen as the victim.
The wars in the world won't stop unless the powerful state won't stop thinking to exercise their authority on the weak countries. They build the weapons to test on the weak countries - like we have witness so many examples in the history where the weak suffered and powerful ruled.

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