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April 30, 2022, 04:47:59 AM
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Boycott all gambling platforms in Russia as a form of sanctions imposed for the invasion of Ukraine, the problem is that some gambling sites are domiciled in Russia, we don't know all of them and also those site owners are not responsible for the current war. Not all Russian citizens agree with the war that is happening now, they are only a small group who agree and drag all Russian citizens into war sanctions. Some Russian gambling platforms will be very influential because of this war, some even leave the site for fear that something will happen because of the war.
Still have different opinion with boycott Russia gambling platform because some people think gambling is not any relationship with war invasion to Ukraine. But some opinion claimed Russia gambling have pat tax helped war invasion. I tjink second opinion is wrong because all gambling Russia site never agree with war invasion. Maybe stop with boycott is better thing how Russia gambling site not get effect from war invasion and kee running like usually.

Everything that represents acts of war I will always be against, the war brings divisions and hate, sometimes it must be understood that there are interests that are on the side of the governments, and that are related to their particular interests, for me I see the Russians and the Ukrainians as the same, there are no sense that they are fighting, for me what Putin is looking for is power, and that Ukraine is again part of Russia again, I think that is the reason for the conflict.

The fact of continuing to do war acts as a boycott of the sites that have struggled to provide a fun service like the casinos that are Russians or any other country that do not see it as something good, it is something negative, for me the sanctions must be Only for Putin and his politicians, no one should pay for their impure actions.

We are all the same, we should not kill ourselves, I have seen that both NATO and other governments are very interested in making war, but they don't say so, it has been speculating much about that there will be a world economic crash, if there are A war is the only way that such an economic catastrophe can avoid, I am not in favor of war, it will never be my north, I do not want an environment contaminated with nuclear weapons, or mutations or diseases produced by such attacks, we only have news that they provide us The means of communication and social networks are really happening what they tell us?

For these reasons and I think there must be many more, is it because we should not attack everything that is Russian, in the media of Russia they support all Putin's decisions, but they do not live in a totally communist government? Where to go against Putin implies that they put you in jail or possibly kill you.

I am totally sure, that the people of Russia are against all invasion against their Ukrainian brothers, if we attack Russia sites, system of Ukraine, is to look for hate, xenophobia and generate more chaos from where there should be no.
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April 30, 2022, 08:21:25 AM
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Boycott all gambling platforms in Russia as a form of sanctions imposed for the invasion of Ukraine, the problem is that some gambling sites are domiciled in Russia, we don't know all of them and also those site owners are not responsible for the current war. Not all Russian citizens agree with the war that is happening now, they are only a small group who agree and drag all Russian citizens into war sanctions. Some Russian gambling platforms will be very influential because of this war, some even leave the site for fear that something will happen because of the war.

Most gamblers around the world do not know the origin of gambling sites. Even I never care to see that gambling sites belong to which country in which i play online gambling. Therefore, most people will keep on playing on Russian gambling platforms unknowingly.
Secondly, i don't think that boycott gambling sites can have any major effect on the Russian economy, though only the business of that particular site may suffer.

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April 30, 2022, 08:40:33 AM
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Most gamblers around the world do not know the origin of gambling sites. Even I never care to see that gambling sites belong to which country in which i play online gambling. Therefore, most people will keep on playing on Russian gambling platforms unknowingly.
Secondly, i don't think that boycott gambling sites can have any major effect on the Russian economy, though only the business of that particular site may suffer.
I second that - Russia is a super power and they have the history of war. Have they had so much trouble they would not have attacked any country at first place.
But I feel bad for the country which are affected be it Ukraine or Palestine or Afghanistan. May the war lord realize that they are killing families and affecting the lives of people for generations.

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April 30, 2022, 11:53:34 AM
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Most gamblers around the world do not know the origin of gambling sites. Even I never care to see that gambling sites belong to which country in which i play online gambling. Therefore, most people will keep on playing on Russian gambling platforms unknowingly.
Secondly, i don't think that boycott gambling sites can have any major effect on the Russian economy, though only the business of that particular site may suffer.
I second that - Russia is a super power and they have the history of war. Have they had so much trouble they would not have attacked any country at first place.
But I feel bad for the country which are affected be it Ukraine or Palestine or Afghanistan. May the war lord realize that they are killing families and affecting the lives of people for generations.

They don't have time to think of it. They were already consumed by their greed or whatever consumed them. Boycotting wouldn't have that much effect to the Russia and I think only the businessmen will suffer from this since they will still paying the same tax even though their economy is going downwards.

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April 30, 2022, 12:39:56 PM
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Most gamblers around the world do not know the origin of gambling sites. Even I never care to see that gambling sites belong to which country in which i play online gambling. Therefore, most people will keep on playing on Russian gambling platforms unknowingly.
Secondly, i don't think that boycott gambling sites can have any major effect on the Russian economy, though only the business of that particular site may suffer.
I second that - Russia is a super power and they have the history of war. Have they had so much trouble they would not have attacked any country at first place.
But I feel bad for the country which are affected be it Ukraine or Palestine or Afghanistan. May the war lord realize that they are killing families and affecting the lives of people for generations.

They don't have time to think of it. They were already consumed by their greed or whatever consumed them. Boycotting wouldn't have that much effect to the Russia and I think only the businessmen will suffer from this since they will still paying the same tax even though their economy is going downwards.

Agree with that, we do have our personal opinion or our way to support Ukraine, but boycotting gambling sites that are operating in Russia is not the best solution. It's not everyone in Russia agrees with the action of the Russian government, so why would we generalize the sanction in our little way, let's just let the big boys play as Russia has been sanction by big countries already.

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April 30, 2022, 06:30:56 PM
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Agree with that, we do have our personal opinion or our way to support Ukraine, but boycotting gambling sites that are operating in Russia is not the best solution. It's not everyone in Russia agrees with the action of the Russian government, so why would we generalize the sanction in our little way, let's just let the big boys play as Russia has been sanction by big countries already.
Today I read on internet that the Russian Ruble strengthened to 69.88 RUB/USD today, nearing its 52 week high, media coverage of the ruble's strength remains non-existent. Good news for Russia and Surly - Central Bank of Russia Giverner Elvira Nabiullina has the right stuff. So what is use of sanctions. Russia will bounce back. No matter what.

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April 30, 2022, 06:49:57 PM
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You're probably right about the impact of such an action on Russia's economy. That doesn't mean we should sit back and do nothing. The actions of the Russian military against Ukraine on whose soil the invasion is taking place are not only crimes against Ukraine, but crimes against the entire world. A sovereign nation was invaded and part of its territory was illegally annexed by Russia and Putin's actions are a threat to peace in the entire region. It is an injustice that shouldn't be tolerated by anyone.

If you want to hurt Russia economically, you have to boycott all their products if you want to put pressure on them everywhere. Russia has attacked Ukraine which is by no means acceptable. For normal people, it is acceptable for us to take a stand against Russia for this act of Russia. Therefore, it is important to impose sanctions on them and implement them properly.


Wont really be giving out any impacts at all which is definitely true because no matter how many sanctions would be implied or applied it cant really be denied in terms of oil supply
which surrounding countries would really be needing it so they wont really be having no choice,plus they do have big reserves which might Putin be that really confident
no matter how bad the situation is in speaking with sanctions or overall.Its been so long but still the war hasnt ended yet which do really shows something in relation
with its power and economic sustainability.

The most important thing is the proper implementation of the sanctions. But other countries are so dependent on Russian oil that they can't do much if they want to. So in order to put pressure on Russia, those countries should make alternative arrangements for Russian oil.

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April 30, 2022, 06:53:33 PM
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Boycott all gambling platforms in Russia as a form of sanctions imposed for the invasion of Ukraine, the problem is that some gambling sites are domiciled in Russia, we don't know all of them and also those site owners are not responsible for the current war. Not all Russian citizens agree with the war that is happening now, they are only a small group who agree and drag all Russian citizens into war sanctions. Some Russian gambling platforms will be very influential because of this war, some even leave the site for fear that something will happen because of the war.
Still have different opinion with boycott Russia gambling platform because some people think gambling is not any relationship with war invasion to Ukraine. But some opinion claimed Russia gambling have pat tax helped war invasion. I tjink second opinion is wrong because all gambling Russia site never agree with war invasion. Maybe stop with boycott is better thing how Russia gambling site not get effect from war invasion and kee running like usually.
I would say that the Russian economy will only benefit from a boycott. Most of the Russian bookmakers are registered in offshore zone and their whole task was to cash out and laundering money. The owners of 1xBet are now located somewhere in Cyprus. So it is still unclear whose companies these are and who will benefit from this boycott.

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April 30, 2022, 07:09:14 PM
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This whole idea of isolating Russia relies on the idea of comparative advantage and the modern system of trade being superior to internal economies.   Russia has such a massive land area and potential economy within just its own people its disputable they would ever feel forced to take a different direction.     Unfortunately the war is not going to be so easily stopped, its some discouragement but not enough to alter a dictatorship imo

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This whole idea of isolating Russia relies on the idea of comparative advantage and the modern system of trade being superior to internal economies.   Russia has such a massive land area and potential economy within just its own people its disputable they would ever feel forced to take a different direction.     Unfortunately the war is not going to be so easily stopped, its some discouragement but not enough to alter a dictatorship imo
despite of the fact there are so many sections - Ruble is strengthening and there is no affect on Russian economy. They are are one of the largest oil producing countries and world cannot cut trade from them. Sooner or later they have to go back and ask for oil. So better be safe than sorry. Support Ukraine and request Russia to have some mercy on them but the fact is that world cannot stop trade with Russia.

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Russian players are more and more excluded worldwide. But especially as a country in certain sports, so not by definition individually. I expect the war to continue for a while, sanctions are getting tougher. Gambling companies have the great advantage that they can decide for themselves whether they allow Russian players or not, there is no umbrella body or organization that supervises and exercises controls. I don't think they want to do that either, it would cost millions for those companies. I think there are a lot of Russian gamblers active.

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This whole idea of isolating Russia relies on the idea of comparative advantage and the modern system of trade being superior to internal economies.   Russia has such a massive land area and potential economy within just its own people its disputable they would ever feel forced to take a different direction.     Unfortunately the war is not going to be so easily stopped, its some discouragement but not enough to alter a dictatorship imo
despite of the fact there are so many sections - Ruble is strengthening and there is no affect on Russian economy. They are are one of the largest oil producing countries and world cannot cut trade from them. Sooner or later they have to go back and ask for oil. So better be safe than sorry. Support Ukraine and request Russia to have some mercy on them but the fact is that world cannot stop trade with Russia.

I'm not really sure what you mean that Rubble is strengthening, it has lost it's value, nearly half of it at the start of the war. But Russia has one aces in their sleeves and that is oil that's why Rubble has somewhat recovered.

Back to the subject though, not sure if this is going to be effect method to boycott Russian based platforms. Maybe it will have an impact, but I don't see it long lasting as gamblers will still prefer to play regardless of the platform that they are going to used.
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I don't support a total boycott but some strong measures be place to force the country from the invasion and making Russia to comply with international standard of peace accord.

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I don't support a total boycott but some strong measures be place to force the country from the invasion and making Russia to comply with international standard of peace accord.
Russia is still trying to survive and do a counter attack with regards to these sanctions, they are trying to turn things round and they can really do this considering the natural resources that they have, I wonder how long they can handle this and the other countries that are also affected by this. Well, I do support the boycott but it looks like its not that effective, I believe on a stronger sanctions that could stop Russia from doing the war.

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I don't support a total boycott but some strong measures be place to force the country from the invasion and making Russia to comply with international standard of peace accord.
Russia has history like US and Germany, and it's not going to change. They are one of the largest oil producer. And this makes them more equal.
Have you ever read the quote of George Orwell - some animals are equal and some are more equal? This is actually the case here.

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I don't support a total boycott but some strong measures be place to force the country from the invasion and making Russia to comply with international standard of peace accord.
Russia is still trying to survive and do a counter attack with regards to these sanctions, they are trying to turn things round and they can really do this considering the natural resources that they have, I wonder how long they can handle this and the other countries that are also affected by this. Well, I do support the boycott but it looks like its not that effective, I believe on a stronger sanctions that could stop Russia from doing the war.

I think most of the world has already understood that what Russia is doing is wrong and shouldn't be allowed in the 21st century.
The sanctions will certainly increase, and Russia will cut itself off from the world more and more, and this will lead to the country's development going back years or even decades.
I do not see any other peaceful way to prevent Russia from continuing this war, such as boycotts and sanctions. Sooner or later Russia will not be able to handle it.

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The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

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The way everyone is sanctioning things in Russia, it seems there are no one living in Russia that the 144.1 million people are not human LOL

Imagine from the point of a Russian Civilian who is not supporting the war in Ukraine, who wants peace dialog and want to see the brotherhood between these two county. But just because he is a Russian now he can not visit an EU county or in a state of America , he can not have assets in these regions, he can not conduct any business at all, his assets are being seized . He has no right in those countries. Or may be he is in any of these countries living for long time. From now on his life will be a harder. The Russian military is killing innocent civilians but the rest of the word is making Russian civilians life a misery.
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I want to remind you that governments represent their nations. What Russians do to stop the war? Oh, #nowar hashtags doesn't work on Putin, nor it changes the mind of the government or the government itself. Action is required to change the things, empty words without actions behind, doesn't work.
So, we don't see massive protests in Russia, I have never seen millions of Russians out against Putin. So, I assume they support the war, what should I think then? The idea behind sanctions was to push Russian people to change their government and stop the war from inside but wait man, you can see how they crush Iphones and other things to protest the sanctions and prove that they can live without west.



I would not use Russian casinos. First of all, I think if I gamble on Russian casinos and lose, then at some point I indirectly support the Russia against the Ukraine because the profit that casino makes goes into Russians budget and funds their soldiers. Seriously, do west casinos lack any promotions, features and design? What advantages do Russian casinos have? What if they block your account? What can you do? Nothing, absolutely nothing.
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The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

This thread is about Russian casinos. I understand that you do not support this boycott and you have the right to do so. I believe that if I can peacefully do something that can shorten this war, i.e. reduce the financing of war by reducing financing of the Russian government's budget from taxes from Russian casinos, I will be glad to do it.
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The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

This thread is about Russian casinos. I understand that you do not support this boycott and you have the right to do so. I believe that if I can peacefully do something that can shorten this war, i.e. reduce the financing of war by reducing financing of the Russian government's budget from taxes from Russian casinos, I will be glad to do it.
This is what the thread is talking all about on which they are boycotting to cut of the lines but considering that there are various sectors or industries on which Russia could really get other
sources of revenue which could really be able to fund up the war.Yes, gambling industry is big but i would say that this wont be enough on stopping this current crisis.

For boycotting support then it would be falling or ending up on someones personal choice because some are really that supportive and some doesnt really care at all.

We do just all hope for this war to be over considering that lots of innocent lives had been lost.

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