Would you support a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms?

[mrongoz_imut]

The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

Almost vote and opinion here forget with how many years United State invasion war to Iraq, Syria then not any care with how many years Israel killed Palestine people and take their country. But when happening with Ukraine just few two months many countries try to suspend and banned Russia, why they not care and try to boycott with United State and Israel? Almost with Ukraine support countries they not care when Unites State and Israel war invasion and most busy right now announce with boycott Russia after invasion to Ukraine.

[South Park]

The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

While it is true that sanctions have never really worked in the sense that by enabling those sanctions they changed the posture of a government regarding a series of policies they have taken, like starting a war or adopting a communist economic system, at the same time people are free to vote with their wallet, and if they want to boycott Russian products and services then they are free to do so as they do not want their money to indirectly support the Russian government.

[mak013]

The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

While it is true that sanctions have never really worked in the sense that by enabling those sanctions they changed the posture of a government regarding a series of policies they have taken, like starting a war or adopting a communist economic system, at the same time people are free to vote with their wallet, and if they want to boycott Russian products and services then they are free to do so as they do not want their money to indirectly support the Russian government.

Yes, you`re right. Everyone can choose how to spent his money by himself. And i do the same - if i don`t like something or someone - i don`t use their products. But i don`t create threads talking to everybody what to do.

And why don`t you boycott communistic China? There is a huge quantity of positions you can boycott.

[TopTort777]

I would not use Russian casinos. First of all, I think if I gamble on Russian casinos and lose, then at some point I indirectly support the Russia against the Ukraine because the profit that casino makes goes into Russians budget and funds their soldiers.

Look on a situation from different angle. Try not to lose, but instead make Russian gambling platform go bankrupt. With it, you will reduce amount of tax paid and reduce war funding. How do you like that ? Would you support the movement aimed to bankrupt Russian gabling platforms? Or lets hire Ocean and his friends to rob their safes?

You see, all these boycotts, sanctions, rallies, bans or leaving Russian market does not work so far. This situations between Russia and Ukraine must be settled on a different level.

[og kush420]

I would not use Russian casinos. First of all, I think if I gamble on Russian casinos and lose, then at some point I indirectly support the Russia against the Ukraine because the profit that casino makes goes into Russians budget and funds their soldiers.

Look on a situation from different angle. Try not to lose, but instead make Russian gambling platform go bankrupt. With it, you will reduce amount of tax paid and reduce war funding. How do you like that ? Would you support the movement aimed to bankrupt Russian gabling platforms? Or lets hire Ocean and his friends to rob their safes?

You see, all these boycotts, sanctions, rallies, bans or leaving Russian market does not work so far. This situations between Russia and Ukraine must be settled on a different level.

Yesterday I watched a video where Russian Forigen minister said - consider Ukraine is Palestine and Russia is USA - would those sanction stand?
I think these sanction are not to stop war but to weaken Russia ONLY. But Having said that. . . War is not a solution... Both the countries should go on dialogues to solve the problem.

[ScamViruS]

Yesterday I watched a video where Russian Forigen minister said - consider Ukraine is Palestine and Russia is USA - would those sanction stand?
I think these sanction are not to stop war but to weaken Russia ONLY. But Having said that. . . War is not a solution... Both the countries should go on dialogues to solve the problem.

Everyone thought this war would end soon. But there does not seem to be a situation where this war is over yet. No one knows when this war will end, so it has created an uncertain situation for the people of Ukraine. Those who thought that Russia would be weakened by various sanctions may have seen the current situation and realized that this was their misconception. So now dialogue is the only way to stop this war.

[noormcs5]

I would not use Russian casinos. First of all, I think if I gamble on Russian casinos and lose, then at some point I indirectly support the Russia against the Ukraine because the profit that casino makes goes into Russians budget and funds their soldiers.

Look on a situation from different angle. Try not to lose, but instead make Russian gambling platform go bankrupt. With it, you will reduce amount of tax paid and reduce war funding. How do you like that ? Would you support the movement aimed to bankrupt Russian gabling platforms? Or lets hire Ocean and his friends to rob their safes?

You see, all these boycotts, sanctions, rallies, bans or leaving Russian market does not work so far. This situations between Russia and Ukraine must be settled on a different level.

Yesterday I watched a video where Russian Forigen minister said - consider Ukraine is Palestine and Russia is USA - would those sanction stand?
I think these sanction are not to stop war but to weaken Russia ONLY. But Having said that. . . War is not a solution... Both the countries should go on dialogues to solve the problem.

When you put sanctions on russia, this gives them a message to either surrender or prolong the war (if they have the courage). Since Russia is a superpower, they are continuing this fight and no one knows when this will end.
I too believe that instead of focusing on sanctions, why not have a dialogue with them to come up with a quicker solution.

[og kush420]

The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

Very right - why sections only on Russia and not on other supers powers which are killing people for decades. Afghan - US war killed thousands of people in Afghanistan and lots of people and soldiers were killed during the same war on boards and in operations. I see lots of discrimination and this is not good. Peace must prevail EVERYWHERE without discrimination.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Yesterday I watched a video where Russian Forigen minister said - consider Ukraine is Palestine and Russia is USA - would those sanction stand?
I think these sanction are not to stop war but to weaken Russia ONLY. But Having said that. . . War is not a solution... Both the countries should go on dialogues to solve the problem.

Everyone thought this war would end soon. But there does not seem to be a situation where this war is over yet. No one knows when this war will end, so it has created an uncertain situation for the people of Ukraine. Those who thought that Russia would be weakened by various sanctions may have seen the current situation and realized that this was their misconception. So now dialogue is the only way to stop this war.

Even a dialogue like this won't have much impact because there really isn't anything we can do now to hinder or stop their Invasion.
At the moment nothing can be expected of anything because indeed when sanctions are useless then one of the last hopes is to hope they stop this voluntarily although this is indeed very difficult to happen

[swogerino]

I would not use Russian casinos. First of all, I think if I gamble on Russian casinos and lose, then at some point I indirectly support the Russia against the Ukraine because the profit that casino makes goes into Russians budget and funds their soldiers.

Look on a situation from different angle. Try not to lose, but instead make Russian gambling platform go bankrupt. With it, you will reduce amount of tax paid and reduce war funding. How do you like that ? Would you support the movement aimed to bankrupt Russian gabling platforms? Or lets hire Ocean and his friends to rob their safes?

You see, all these boycotts, sanctions, rallies, bans or leaving Russian market does not work so far. This situations between Russia and Ukraine must be settled on a different level.

The bans and sanctions,not the gambling ones though are working quite well I would say as maybe they are not being effective to the Russian government officials but they surely are devastating to the normal civil population in Russia,give it a bit of time like 2-3 more months and pretty sure Russians will be extremely poor,I would put them in the same league as North Korea,for their civil population.
Rage also has come from many Russian oligarchs which had their asset frozen and now they are completely against the war,as I said give it a bit more time and everything is working well.

[Zackgeno96]

The war is still ongoing and I don't think even if we boycott Russian gambling platforms wouldn't affect too much as they get their funds for war in oil exchange and not in gambling industry, does anyone know the current status of war whether they stop advancing or what. It looks like they can't occupy Ukraine as they getting supplies from different countries.

[Doan9269]

The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

While it is true that sanctions have never really worked in the sense that by enabling those sanctions they changed the posture of a government regarding a series of policies they have taken, like starting a war or adopting a communist economic system, at the same time people are free to vote with their wallet, and if they want to boycott Russian products and services then they are free to do so as they do not want their money to indirectly support the Russian government.

i think we need to make an emphasis on the need for peace all over the world regardless of location or race, moreover how on earth do people assume the funds from casinos can be good enough to manage or sustain the progress of a war, as for me and what i know, i think there's a need to realize that we are all one body, there might be individuals differences but crisis is what the world has been embedded on right from time and what we should be praying for is an end to it, with or without casinos funding war will still exist and funding in one way or the other will still exist but oeace will overrule them all.

[Markinzo]

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

In as much we don't support the war aggression by Russia on Ukraine, I don't believe such move is absolutely necessary as it's not a Russia government owned gambling business platform(s).

Come to think of it rationally, what makes you feel that this gambling platform owners ain't already negatively affected by the impart of this unnecessary war. There's no such thing as businesses growing and doing better in places and periods of war, except it's an armed business.

On a neutrally speaking for me, I only see this move as another way whereby maybe some other gambling sites are overtly or covertly trying to reduce the competition in the gambling industry.

I stand to be corrected if my perception above is wrong.

[ScamViruS]

Even a dialogue like this won't have much impact because there really isn't anything we can do now to hinder or stop their Invasion.
At the moment nothing can be expected of anything because indeed when sanctions are useless then one of the last hopes is to hope they stop this voluntarily although this is indeed very difficult to happen

Since Russia has maintained its position despite such sanctions, Russia's decision to end the war will be final. While other countries could boycott Russia's other things, Europe could not survive without Russian oil. So Russia's main power here is oil.

So even if they boycott other things, including gambling websites, there is no tension in Russia because they will sell oil and cover everything.

[Crypto Library]

Even a dialogue like this won't have much impact because there really isn't anything we can do now to hinder or stop their Invasion.
At the moment nothing can be expected of anything because indeed when sanctions are useless then one of the last hopes is to hope they stop this voluntarily although this is indeed very difficult to happen

Since Russia has maintained its position despite such sanctions, Russia's decision to end the war will be final. While other countries could boycott Russia's other things, Europe could not survive without Russian oil. So Russia's main power here is oil.

So even if they boycott other things, including gambling websites, there is no tension in Russia because they will sell oil and cover everything.

My point is not that, my point is why will be boycott? Many ordinary civilians run their lives through working in these gambling websites, they have not done anything wrong! The trouble here is due to the political reasons of the two countries. And from this point of view, the big powers in the Middle East have killed millions and are still killing, haven't we seen any boycott against them? I don't understand why there is discrimination here !

[cabron]

Even a dialogue like this won't have much impact because there really isn't anything we can do now to hinder or stop their Invasion.
At the moment nothing can be expected of anything because indeed when sanctions are useless then one of the last hopes is to hope they stop this voluntarily although this is indeed very difficult to happen

Since Russia has maintained its position despite such sanctions, Russia's decision to end the war will be final. While other countries could boycott Russia's other things, Europe could not survive without Russian oil. So Russia's main power here is oil.

So even if they boycott other things, including gambling websites, there is no tension in Russia because they will sell oil and cover everything.

My point is not that, my point is why will be boycott? Many ordinary civilians run their lives through working in these gambling websites, they have not done anything wrong! The trouble here is due to the political reasons of the two countries. And from this point of view, the big powers in the Middle East have killed millions and are still killing, haven't we seen any boycott against them? I don't understand why there is discrimination here !

Russia had been demonized all other the world even before this war. Its not new to them anymore. They survived every time, so there shouldn't be a reason anymore for doing so like it hurts them. Even EU that depends on Russia's oil and gas wants to sanction them.

But its not as if a gambler will really avoid Russian gambling platform, they couldn't control someone from going into Russian platform. ETH is even owned by a Russian developer, why is there no one trying to tell us not to use  it? 

[Ryu_Ar1]

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My point is not that, my point is why will be boycott? Many ordinary civilians run their lives through working in these gambling websites, they have not done anything wrong! The trouble here is due to the political reasons of the two countries. And from this point of view, the big powers in the Middle East have killed millions and are still killing, haven't we seen any boycott against them? I don't understand why there is discrimination here !

Russia had been demonized all other the world even before this war. Its not new to them anymore. They survived every time, so there shouldn't be a reason anymore for doing so like it hurts them. Even EU that depends on Russia's oil and gas wants to sanction them.

But its not as if a gambler will really avoid Russian gambling platform, they couldn't control someone from going into Russian platform. ETH is even owned by a Russian developer, why is there no one trying to tell us not to use  it? 

This is still quite difficult because indeed we also still need it, but seriously this is like almost everything related to Russia is indeed being quite disadvantaged right now. I personally wouldn't say boycott about anything as long as it's not directly related or does not really support this and actually many of them don't support an invasion like this so we can't attack the people who were there either if they don't agree with that

[UmerIdrees]

The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

Very right - why sections only on Russia and not on other supers powers which are killing people for decades. Afghan - US war killed thousands of people in Afghanistan and lots of people and soldiers were killed during the same war on boards and in operations. I see lots of discrimination and this is not good. Peace must prevail EVERYWHERE without discrimination.

No brother, this does not happen in reality. If a developed country like Ukraine is under attack, the whole world will stand with them but if an underdeveloped Muslim country is being bombarded by the superpowers, no one will raise their voice.

I will take this to one level further. If you bombarded any country with USA will, you are indeed a good nation. That's how the world is acting right now.

[ScamViruS]

Even a dialogue like this won't have much impact because there really isn't anything we can do now to hinder or stop their Invasion.
At the moment nothing can be expected of anything because indeed when sanctions are useless then one of the last hopes is to hope they stop this voluntarily although this is indeed very difficult to happen

Since Russia has maintained its position despite such sanctions, Russia's decision to end the war will be final. While other countries could boycott Russia's other things, Europe could not survive without Russian oil. So Russia's main power here is oil.

So even if they boycott other things, including gambling websites, there is no tension in Russia because they will sell oil and cover everything.

My point is not that, my point is why will be boycott? Many ordinary civilians run their lives through working in these gambling websites, they have not done anything wrong! The trouble here is due to the political reasons of the two countries. And from this point of view, the big powers in the Middle East have killed millions and are still killing, haven't we seen any boycott against them? I don't understand why there is discrimination here !

If a player wants to personally refrain from using the gambling website of a particular country for any reason, even if you show him a thousand different reasons, he will not agree to play on that website. So if any player wants to boycott this website it should be seen as his personal reason. Many things are happening now for political reasons, and because of this politics many ordinary people are dying all over the world in different ways. So it is not possible to avoid one crime with another.

[Naficopa]

The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?

Very right - why sections only on Russia and not on other supers powers which are killing people for decades. Afghan - US war killed thousands of people in Afghanistan and lots of people and soldiers were killed during the same war on boards and in operations. I see lots of discrimination and this is not good. Peace must prevail EVERYWHERE without discrimination.

No brother, this does not happen in reality. If a developed country like Ukraine is under attack, the whole world will stand with them but if an underdeveloped Muslim country is being bombarded by the superpowers, no one will raise their voice.

I will take this to one level further. If you bombarded any country with USA will, you are indeed a good nation. That's how the world is acting right now.

Correct heard Pakistan and Sirilanka paid a heavy price for not supporting Ukraine, and EU was not happy on that.
But that is what most of the muslims believe that in the whole world muslim are suffering/ Suffered in Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Lybia, Yamen, Serya and recently in Ramadan Muslim were treated brutally by Israelis in Palestine. Is the justice only for white skin?