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May 07, 2022, 09:49:37 PM
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The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?
Very right - why sections only on Russia and not on other supers powers which are killing people for decades. Afghan - US war killed thousands of people in Afghanistan and lots of people and soldiers were killed during the same war on boards and in operations. I see lots of discrimination and this is not good. Peace must prevail EVERYWHERE without discrimination.

No brother, this does not happen in reality. If a developed country like Ukraine is under attack, the whole world will stand with them but if an underdeveloped Muslim country is being bombarded by the superpowers, no one will raise their voice.

I will take this to one level further. If you bombarded any country with USA will, you are indeed a good nation. That's how the world is acting right now.

I do not really understand how your statement relates to the war in Ukraine?
After all, it was Russia that attacked a peaceful country. It is your private decision whether you want to boycott Russian casinos or not.
In my opinion, if this boycott shortens this war somehow by even a few minutes, it is a good decision.

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May 07, 2022, 09:58:09 PM
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Even a dialogue like this won't have much impact because there really isn't anything we can do now to hinder or stop their Invasion.
At the moment nothing can be expected of anything because indeed when sanctions are useless then one of the last hopes is to hope they stop this voluntarily although this is indeed very difficult to happen
I think what they mean by dialogue is when two countries talk to each other and not the kind of dialogue that is happening on this thread. Maybe they have tried talking to each other already but it didn't work out well so the other country have nothing to do but started a war. We that are only regular individuals can't do much to stop the war but some of us are still finding a way to help at least, that is why we have this boycott thing.

Like sanctions, boycots doesn't have the ability to stop the war but it can only help weaken Russia. For some that are against Russia, that's better than nothing but there are some that won't support this act for some reasons.

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May 07, 2022, 10:24:13 PM
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Even a dialogue like this won't have much impact because there really isn't anything we can do now to hinder or stop their Invasion.
At the moment nothing can be expected of anything because indeed when sanctions are useless then one of the last hopes is to hope they stop this voluntarily although this is indeed very difficult to happen
I think what they mean by dialogue is when two countries talk to each other and not the kind of dialogue that is happening on this thread. Maybe they have tried talking to each other already but it didn't work out well so the other country have nothing to do but started a war. We that are only regular individuals can't do much to stop the war but some of us are still finding a way to help at least, that is why we have this boycott thing.

Like sanctions, boycots doesn't have the ability to stop the war but it can only help weaken Russia. For some that are against Russia, that's better than nothing but there are some that won't support this act for some reasons.

There is no war that can be good. Of course, it is an individual matter whether someone wants to support the boycott or not. The boycott and sanctions are perhaps the most peaceful attempt help in stop the war if the aggressor doesn't want to stop it, so in my opinion this initiative is good.

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May 08, 2022, 04:59:27 AM
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Even a dialogue like this won't have much impact because there really isn't anything we can do now to hinder or stop their Invasion.
At the moment nothing can be expected of anything because indeed when sanctions are useless then one of the last hopes is to hope they stop this voluntarily although this is indeed very difficult to happen
I think what they mean by dialogue is when two countries talk to each other and not the kind of dialogue that is happening on this thread. Maybe they have tried talking to each other already but it didn't work out well so the other country have nothing to do but started a war. We that are only regular individuals can't do much to stop the war but some of us are still finding a way to help at least, that is why we have this boycott thing.

Like sanctions, boycots doesn't have the ability to stop the war but it can only help weaken Russia. For some that are against Russia, that's better than nothing but there are some that won't support this act for some reasons.
Thank you for straightening it out, when you say that it will be a little difficult considering that both parties will not accept each other's agreement, so this will indeed be something that is quite difficult to realize.
As for the boycott itself, I actually quite agree, even though it doesn't have any impact, but this can be used as a form of rejection of what they are doing, but on the other hand, I'm actually quite sorry for the civilians who are affected by their political interests impact.

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May 08, 2022, 05:23:48 AM
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As for the boycott itself, I actually quite agree, even though it doesn't have any impact, but this can be used as a form of rejection of what they are doing, but on the other hand, I'm actually quite sorry for the civilians who are affected by their political interests impact.

Civilians who are affected the most are Ukrainians who are killed. As for the economic consequences of sanctions and boycotts for Russian citizens, they are intended to end this war. If that doesn't work for the Russian government, it's possible that the citizens will eventually change government and end this war on their own.
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May 08, 2022, 11:51:27 AM
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The OP started the thread 28.02.2022. Today is 02.05.2022. Can someone say the results of "collective boycott"? Russia lost? Israel stopped bombing Syria and Palestine? Saudi Arabia removed their forces from Yemen? US removed their forces from Syria, France from Africa?
This is one of the most hypocritical thread here. What percent of posters can find Ukraine on the map? No one said nothing for last 20 years of wars, why are you crying now?
Very right - why sections only on Russia and not on other supers powers which are killing people for decades. Afghan - US war killed thousands of people in Afghanistan and lots of people and soldiers were killed during the same war on boards and in operations. I see lots of discrimination and this is not good. Peace must prevail EVERYWHERE without discrimination.

No brother, this does not happen in reality. If a developed country like Ukraine is under attack, the whole world will stand with them but if an underdeveloped Muslim country is being bombarded by the superpowers, no one will raise their voice.

I will take this to one level further. If you bombarded any country with USA will, you are indeed a good nation. That's how the world is acting right now.

I do not really understand how your statement relates to the war in Ukraine?
After all, it was Russia that attacked a peaceful country. It is your private decision whether you want to boycott Russian casinos or not.
In my opinion, if this boycott shortens this war somehow by even a few minutes, it is a good decision.
That is the real point - when we talk about attacks on muslim countries. They are called terrorist countries and they innocent are killed like crazy.
No One comes up for defending those peaceful Muslim countries. Even those muslim countries do not have their defence forces. Which is their problem. 

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May 08, 2022, 12:56:01 PM
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There is no war that can be good. Of course, it is an individual matter whether someone wants to support the boycott or not. The boycott and sanctions are perhaps the most peaceful attempt help in stop the war if the aggressor doesn't want to stop it, so in my opinion this initiative is good.
Every war will have consequences for both parties, whether it's the loser or the winner because they both lost their soldiers who had defended the interests of the warring people. Boycotts and sanctions might help but in this case, the Russians are likely to survive because they have the resources at their disposal to help them survive. We don't know when the war will end, maybe it can last until the end of the year or next year. We can only hope that the people of both sides will survive and that the leaders of Russia and Ukraine can communicate to end the war soon.

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May 08, 2022, 01:04:26 PM
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There is no war that can be good. Of course, it is an individual matter whether someone wants to support the boycott or not. The boycott and sanctions are perhaps the most peaceful attempt help in stop the war if the aggressor doesn't want to stop it, so in my opinion this initiative is good.
Every war will have consequences for both parties, whether it's the loser or the winner because they both lost their soldiers who had defended the interests of the warring people. Boycotts and sanctions might help but in this case, the Russians are likely to survive because they have the resources at their disposal to help them survive. We don't know when the war will end, maybe it can last until the end of the year or next year. We can only hope that the people of both sides will survive and that the leaders of Russia and Ukraine can communicate to end the war soon.

What currently happening is battle between the pride of their leaders and its really unfortunate that other life has been sacrifice for what decision they made. Look at what happen to them now both of this country economically struggle due to the incident happen to them. And I guess sanctions will not help this case anymore since as we see Russia became more aggressive even if there's something like this implemented on their country.

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May 08, 2022, 08:46:17 PM
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ETH is even owned by a Russian developer, why is there no one trying to tell us not to use  it?  

Maybe because of this?

Ethereum's Russian-born co-founder Vitalik Buterin slams Kremlin calling Ukraine invasion 'a crime'

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Vitalik Buterin, the Russian-Canadian co-founder of the Ethereum blockchain, railed against Russian president Vladimir Putin and the invasion of Ukraine on Thursday, condemning it as a "crime against the Ukrainian and Russian people".


https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1496695587495981056



As for the boycott itself, I actually quite agree, even though it doesn't have any impact, but this can be used as a form of rejection of what they are doing, but on the other hand, I'm actually quite sorry for the civilians who are affected by their political interests impact.

That is exactly the whole point. Of course, no one is so naive as to believe that boycotts will have any impact on the Russian economy. As with bans and boycotts in the world of sports, the goal is to show opposition to the Kremlin's current policies.

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May 08, 2022, 09:03:05 PM
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There is no war that can be good. Of course, it is an individual matter whether someone wants to support the boycott or not. The boycott and sanctions are perhaps the most peaceful attempt help in stop the war if the aggressor doesn't want to stop it, so in my opinion this initiative is good.
Every war will have consequences for both parties, whether it's the loser or the winner because they both lost their soldiers who had defended the interests of the warring people. Boycotts and sanctions might help but in this case, the Russians are likely to survive because they have the resources at their disposal to help them survive. We don't know when the war will end, maybe it can last until the end of the year or next year. We can only hope that the people of both sides will survive and that the leaders of Russia and Ukraine can communicate to end the war soon.

What currently happening is battle between the pride of their leaders and its really unfortunate that other life has been sacrifice for what decision they made. Look at what happen to them now both of this country economically struggle due to the incident happen to them. And I guess sanctions will not help this case anymore since as we see Russia became more aggressive even if there's something like this implemented on their country.

I have the feeling that Putin will go all in in this war as it may be his last hurrah in this world. But from the looks of it, as Ukraine is not giving up, winning on this war is still far-fetch from them. And besides, in war, there's no winning as both camps will have their casualties and negative impact on their economy.

As we are now living in this war period, I just want to say that it is hard to boycott these Russian gambling platforms just like hard to boycott to watch Russian athletes. Just look at the recent winning streak of Bivol in boxing. I guess many boxing fans are not expecting for Bivol to upset Canelo in this match. Bivol is not a trash talker so it is hard for the audience not to like him after Canelo's defeat. Bivol just proved his dominance in this weight division, no races mentioned just pure talent and skills.
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May 08, 2022, 09:24:23 PM
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As for the boycott itself, I actually quite agree, even though it doesn't have any impact, but this can be used as a form of rejection of what they are doing, but on the other hand, I'm actually quite sorry for the civilians who are affected by their political interests impact.

Civilians who are affected the most are Ukrainians who are killed. As for the economic consequences of sanctions and boycotts for Russian citizens, they are intended to end this war. If that doesn't work for the Russian government, it's possible that the citizens will eventually change government and end this war on their own.
people power is the best weapon to stop war between countries but are russian people willing to fight to stop putin from going to war?  i don't challenge the russians and also say bad things about them but putin is an iron fist leader, he is a leader of absolutism even though he is not from the communist party.  i just hope that Russian citizens don't become victims of Putin's violence again, let them continue to accept the sanctions imposed by foreign countries.

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May 08, 2022, 09:37:10 PM
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There is no war that can be good. Of course, it is an individual matter whether someone wants to support the boycott or not. The boycott and sanctions are perhaps the most peaceful attempt help in stop the war if the aggressor doesn't want to stop it, so in my opinion this initiative is good.
Every war will have consequences for both parties, whether it's the loser or the winner because they both lost their soldiers who had defended the interests of the warring people. Boycotts and sanctions might help but in this case, the Russians are likely to survive because they have the resources at their disposal to help them survive. We don't know when the war will end, maybe it can last until the end of the year or next year. We can only hope that the people of both sides will survive and that the leaders of Russia and Ukraine can communicate to end the war soon.

What currently happening is battle between the pride of their leaders and its really unfortunate that other life has been sacrifice for what decision they made. Look at what happen to them now both of this country economically struggle due to the incident happen to them. And I guess sanctions will not help this case anymore since as we see Russia became more aggressive even if there's something like this implemented on their country.
They are unstoppable despite of sanctions left and right which does proves out on how powerful Russia is but we know that this is something that won't last forever or sustain for too long.
It's still early to make out some conclusions but we'll see on what would be the next events or happening but it's really sad to see that as long this war lasts there are lots of innocent people's lives is been sacrificed which this war should be stopped.

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May 08, 2022, 10:09:53 PM
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Facebook, Pornhub, and Google are supporting Ukraine and they are making it hard for their Russian clients to access use the ads
but it's not Putin's government that will benefit from using their service it's the private citizen, these are after all citizens that don't have a say on what Putin is doing right now, in fact, many Russians are against it and are protesting the ongoing aggressions.
I don't have an account on a known Russian gambling platform, and I don't think I can play on 1XBIT it's risky playing there.
Things are getting worse everyday and we keep attacking the Russian citizen that know nothing about the war.
Should we keep blame the ordinary citizen of what they are entitled to?
Can this boycott makes Putin to stop the war?
Would this boycott repairs the damage that had been caused on Ukrainian soil?
So many questions to ask here but it seems we are not ready to stop this war. I could see on TV that many civilians had lost their lives including babies. We need to raise a voice that will stop the war.

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May 08, 2022, 10:55:09 PM
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Facebook, Pornhub, and Google are supporting Ukraine and they are making it hard for their Russian clients to access use the ads
but it's not Putin's government that will benefit from using their service it's the private citizen, these are after all citizens that don't have a say on what Putin is doing right now, in fact, many Russians are against it and are protesting the ongoing aggressions.
I don't have an account on a known Russian gambling platform, and I don't think I can play on 1XBIT it's risky playing there.
Things are getting worse everyday and we keep attacking the Russian citizen that know nothing about the war.
Should we keep blame the ordinary citizen of what they are entitled to?
Can this boycott makes Putin to stop the war?
Would this boycott repairs the damage that had been caused on Ukrainian soil?
So many questions to ask here but it seems we are not ready to stop this war. I could see on TV that many civilians had lost their lives including babies. We need to raise a voice that will stop the war.

So far, Putin still has the desire to invade Ukraine despite the many sanctions that have been carried out by several countries around the world, but I believe that any such effort will sooner or later open Putin's heart to be able to discuss so that this war can be stopped. There have been many casualties from both sides.
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So far, Putin still has the desire to invade Ukraine despite the many sanctions that have been carried out by several countries around the world, but I believe that any such effort will sooner or later open Putin's heart to be able to discuss so that this war can be stopped. There have been many casualties from both sides.
In modern days - war is horrible. There are hundred and thousand of causalities in a jiffy.
I hope the government authorities on both the side go for dialogues and end the dead lock among them. Already so much damage has been made. Time to make serious decisions right away.

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May 09, 2022, 04:44:29 AM
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There is no war that can be good. Of course, it is an individual matter whether someone wants to support the boycott or not. The boycott and sanctions are perhaps the most peaceful attempt help in stop the war if the aggressor doesn't want to stop it, so in my opinion this initiative is good.
Every war will have consequences for both parties, whether it's the loser or the winner because they both lost their soldiers who had defended the interests of the warring people. Boycotts and sanctions might help but in this case, the Russians are likely to survive because they have the resources at their disposal to help them survive. We don't know when the war will end, maybe it can last until the end of the year or next year. We can only hope that the people of both sides will survive and that the leaders of Russia and Ukraine can communicate to end the war soon.

What currently happening is battle between the pride of their leaders and its really unfortunate that other life has been sacrifice for what decision they made. Look at what happen to them now both of this country economically struggle due to the incident happen to them. And I guess sanctions will not help this case anymore since as we see Russia became more aggressive even if there's something like this implemented on their country.
If these leaders want to take to the streets and see the condition of their people and still have a conscience, maybe they will be moved to end the war and will make a truce or even end the war. But it looks like the impact is bigger in Ukraine because of their war-affected country. Whereas Russia seems to still be able to survive the sanctions and as you said, Russia is becoming more aggressive and even seems brave to fight the countries that impose sanctions. Somehow the final outcome of this war is because we do not know when it will end.

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May 09, 2022, 07:17:51 AM
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ETH is even owned by a Russian developer, why is there no one trying to tell us not to use  it?  

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Ethereum's Russian-born co-founder Vitalik Buterin slams Kremlin calling Ukraine invasion 'a crime'

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Vitalik Buterin, the Russian-Canadian co-founder of the Ethereum blockchain, railed against Russian president Vladimir Putin and the invasion of Ukraine on Thursday, condemning it as a "crime against the Ukrainian and Russian people".


https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1496695587495981056



And of course you made a research of all russian casinos and can say that they all support Putin? *sarcasm* And you think that all russians supports Putin?
And if casino owner(of the official member) says the same as Vitalik Buterin - it will become not russian casino and you willn`t boycott it?

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May 09, 2022, 03:19:41 PM
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Boycott all gambling platforms in Russia as a form of sanctions imposed for the invasion of Ukraine, the problem is that some gambling sites are domiciled in Russia, we don't know all of them and also those site owners are not responsible for the current war. Not all Russian citizens agree with the war that is happening now, they are only a small group who agree and drag all Russian citizens into war sanctions. Some Russian gambling platforms will be very influential because of this war, some even leave the site for fear that something will happen because of the war.

If it is seen in all countries that gamblers are gambling in many countries around the world and there are no good idea about most sites then if it is noticed here that the country where online gambling is played, most people here do not know how to play on Russia's platform.  Secondly, what is thought here does not affect the economy of gambling sites here but here I think it's very good

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May 09, 2022, 08:57:48 PM
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We should not be surprised that Putin was more prepared for the out of the war. He knows that sanctions will come from NATO countries and also from the European countries. I don't think he is tired of ending the war because is like he is regrouping is soldiers to get ready for another battles. We don't know he's next move but I think the world nations should fix a meeting with him so that the war can be end. A lots of soldiers had already lost there lives because of the war.

I think, as you write, Putin is prepared for many months of war, maybe even years. To stop the war now would be equivalent to defeat, and Putin will certainly not admit to that. If the boycott of casinos means that Russia has less money to support this war, in my opinion we should do it. It is possible that less people will die thanks to us.
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May 09, 2022, 08:59:44 PM
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We should not be surprised that Putin was more prepared for the out of the war. He knows that sanctions will come from NATO countries and also from the European countries. I don't think he is tired of ending the war because is like he is regrouping is soldiers to get ready for another battles. We don't know he's next move but I think the world nations should fix a meeting with him so that the war can be end. A lots of soldiers had already lost there lives because of the war.

I think, as you write, Putin is prepared for many months of war, maybe even years. To stop the war now would be equivalent to defeat, and Putin will certainly not admit to that. If the boycott of casinos means that Russia has less money to support this war, in my opinion we should do it. It is possible that less people will die thanks to us.
Ego is one of the things for sure on why Putin hadnt stopped this war.Do you believe on that? Its true on what you had said about admitting defeat.Its true that no one does have the idea on how long Russia
would able to sustain sanctions or economic problems but we are currently seeing that they've stood strong onto  their decision but wont be surprised that these things would be over.
We arent minding about economic failures but rather minding on the lives wasted because of this war which we do really be in concern.
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