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June 30, 2022, 10:45:27 AM
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Today I was watching TV and the Deutsche Welle reported that in the last couple of years Europe has paid billions of Euros to Russia for her gas. So one could assume that in comparison to those billions the Russian government has received for gas, taxes collected through casinos may be a neglectable amount of money?

Good point also. The amount of tax collected through gambling sites, that is used by foreigners is so tiny, that in it almost invisible in the cash flow from trades with natural resources. Gambling is such a shady business. Combined with level of corruption in Russia, I think that no one in the government even notice such line as "taxes from gambling" with a small figure in budget report.

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June 30, 2022, 12:37:32 PM
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I just wish if the Armies would back out and let the leaders fight there self instead putting two families in death rope to fight there war.

I know that time will soon come when he people would have wise up to the understanding that enough is enough, they should also send their own children to the war front in ransom for the country if truly they are being patriotic as claimed or they themselves should lead the war, that's why it's seems am abit on the side for Ukraine, it got to a certain point of the Russian invassion whereby the Ukraine president also join the war front holding weapons and pulling the trigger, he said he's ready to die all for the sake of defending his people, this is a good example of a leader and not a ruler as in the case of Putin.



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June 30, 2022, 04:07:07 PM
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Today I was watching TV and the Deutsche Welle reported that in the last couple of years Europe has paid billions of Euros to Russia for her gas. So one could assume that in comparison to those billions the Russian government has received for gas, taxes collected through casinos may be a neglectable amount of money?

Good point also. The amount of tax collected through gambling sites, that is used by foreigners is so tiny, that in it almost invisible in the cash flow from trades with natural resources. Gambling is such a shady business. Combined with level of corruption in Russia, I think that no one in the government even notice such line as "taxes from gambling" with a small figure in budget report.

Yes. It seems that in the end the future of the Russian economy is on the hands of the powerful politicians and political parties of the industrialized countries on the planet and there is little one can do as a common crypto-currency user or gambler, besides donating to legitimate charities that help to relieve the pain the Ukranian people are going through because this senseless conflict.

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July 01, 2022, 09:11:53 AM
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The countries who relied on Russia natural resources mostly the EU countries being in need of gas supply are fighting very hard and after a couple of years they will be completely independent from Russian supplies.The only countries affected unfortunately are those in N.Africa who are greatly in need of the Russian grains,they are the only one that will suffer terribly from the famine coming there.While even if Russia ends the war now,to go back with relations the same as they were before the war is impossible and this is what US,EU and UK think.As I said sanctions are functioning perfectly and Russia is already years behind in their economy compared to the rest of the world.
Isn't this thread going an extra long than expected. Now the things are out of that gambling platforms and has gone far beyond all that.
Now what we are facing. I don't support anyone. Let everyone support there battles as we are sporting ours. Noone is going to put food on our table except us.

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July 01, 2022, 11:08:51 AM
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Isn't this thread going an extra long than expected. Now the things are out of that gambling platforms and has gone far beyond all that.
Now what we are facing. I don't support anyone. Let everyone support there battles as we are sporting ours. Noone is going to put food on our table except us.

This thread will live until we have two sides. First support a boycott, others say it wont change anything or even wont have an effect. Until two sides argue and keep throwing argument, we would have lots of new pages with posts here.

Imho, boycotting Russian gambling platform to stop the war or to help Ukraine win is useless and stupid. Even sanctions wont work. Something else must be do to stop this massacre. If someone wants to do bad to Russian gambling sector, then boycotting is not the best option. Hacking or DDoSing works better, as it completely stops funds flow.

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July 01, 2022, 07:13:59 PM
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Isn't this thread going an extra long than expected. Now the things are out of that gambling platforms and has gone far beyond all that.
Now what we are facing. I don't support anyone. Let everyone support there battles as we are sporting ours. Noone is going to put food on our table except us.

This thread will live until we have two sides. First support a boycott, others say it wont change anything or even wont have an effect. Until two sides argue and keep throwing argument, we would have lots of new pages with posts here.

Imho, boycotting Russian gambling platform to stop the war or to help Ukraine win is useless and stupid. Even sanctions wont work. Something else must be do to stop this massacre. If someone wants to do bad to Russian gambling sector, then boycotting is not the best option. Hacking or DDoSing works better, as it completely stops funds flow.
Considering sanctions and boycotting of Russia gambling platforms, my opinion about it is to know if it will in anyway have effects on them. I understand that major sanctions have been given them but it didn't stop the invasion. Will the gambling sanctions worth it?
I think if the gambling platforms in Russia are boycotted, it will not affect the Russian government or Puttin himself but rather ordinary Russians that are struggling to meet up needs.

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July 01, 2022, 07:48:43 PM
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It is no secret to anyone that in wars there are unfortunately interests of the big ones, this is because the war between these two countries is generating an immense business model, between leaders of many countries, companies, among others, which seems bad to me is that there are lives that are sacrificed thanks to these interests, and unfortunately the world in general will always move with respect to the best business model they can obtain, although some, let's say in the lowest stratum that I consider "ignorance" under which is easy to do by manipulation, many Ukrainians and Russians die, and what should be stopped here is those deaths, a boycott will not solve it, I think that if the war will drag on, measures should be taken in another way.

One form of human greed is difficult to control.
Now the war continues even though many countries are proposing for peace or condemning this, it seems that it only heats up the atmosphere there because it is like pouring oil into a fire which does make this even more because the countries that interfere also have their own desires and greed regardless of how many lives. who was sacrificed.
Boycotts are now not very useful anymore because we have seen that there are some who have boycotted but the war is still going on and we don't know when it will end.
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Considering sanctions and boycotting of Russia gambling platforms, my opinion about it is to know if it will in anyway have effects on them. I understand that major sanctions have been given them but it didn't stop the invasion. Will the gambling sanctions worth it?
I think if the gambling platforms in Russia are boycotted, it will not affect the Russian government or Puttin himself but rather ordinary Russians that are struggling to meet up needs.

All gambling websites are owned by ordinary people not the Russian government. Now if we boycott the Russian gambling website, it will naturally have an effect on those ordinary people. The war is not stopping even after so many sanctions have been imposed against Russia. Because Russia's oil power is the real power, they are exporting oil during this war and the money is going to them. So boycotting the gambling website will have no effect on the Russian government, because the source of their money is something more huge.

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July 01, 2022, 11:41:41 PM
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Considering sanctions and boycotting of Russia gambling platforms, my opinion about it is to know if it will in anyway have effects on them. I understand that major sanctions have been given them but it didn't stop the invasion. Will the gambling sanctions worth it?
I think if the gambling platforms in Russia are boycotted, it will not affect the Russian government or Puttin himself but rather ordinary Russians that are struggling to meet up needs.

All gambling websites are owned by ordinary people not the Russian government. Now if we boycott the Russian gambling website, it will naturally have an effect on those ordinary people. The war is not stopping even after so many sanctions have been imposed against Russia. Because Russia's oil power is the real power, they are exporting oil during this war and the money is going to them. So boycotting the gambling website will have no effect on the Russian government, because the source of their money is something more huge.
They could sustain and thats why this war isnt over yet despite of lots of sanctions and prohibition on which Russia do able to get due to that war action that they had made against Ukraine but even up to

this moment which it isnt really that over yet and still becoming more tense as the days passing.Boycotting Russian based casinos or even other services wont really be enough for them to be completely
stopped or minding about cutting off supply and finances for it to be supplementing the war that they are now engaging.

Wont really be enough i must say but if they would be tend to boycott for some ethical thing to be done then its not a bad action but expect that it wont make out significant effect.

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July 02, 2022, 03:50:08 AM
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I think this kind of restriction will have a effect on the Russian economy though it is little bit car be great impact. We are all suffering a lot as a result of the war in Ukraine. Meanwhile, inflation is rising. There is a shortage of food grains. None of us want a war. Although most Russians do not want this war, their Putin government wants it to continue. It is never worthy of support. Since they are not stopping in any way, there is no other way but to give various restrictions.

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July 02, 2022, 09:05:39 AM
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Wont really be enough i must say but if they would be tend to boycott for some ethical thing to be done then its not a bad action but expect that it wont make out significant effect.

According to Wikipedia, as of 3 May 2022, more than 1200 companies had withdrawn from Russia or divested themselves from Russian ties, either as a result of sanctions or in protest of Russian actions [1]. Many of these boycotts will not actually have a large economic impact which could indirectly affect the Russian government, but more importantly it sets a strong precedent and a strong political and moral message to Russia and to Russia's allies.

Whether or not the recent sanctions and boycotts will impact the Russian government, however, is still in question. Many Russians still support President Putin and his desire to restore his country to its place as the preeminent global superpower and, from their perspective, Russia's need to take whatever steps are necessary to accomplish this goal.

Nevertheless, it is clear that the international community is united in its opposition to the policies of President Putin and that we are finally acting as one in calling on Russia to change its behavior. Whether this will make a difference or not, remains to be seen, but the actions of the international community are making a difference.


[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_boycott_of_Russia_and_Belarus

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Money power is the biggest thing here. It costs a lot of money to run a war, and when a country becomes economically weak, it is forced to end the war. But because many countries are dependent on Russian oil, those countries are buying oil from Russia even after various sanctions. And since Russia is able to sell oil, their money supply is not being cut off. Boycotting gambling websites depends on gamblers making their own decisions. Because if they think that this war in Russia is immoral, they can stand against Russia.

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July 02, 2022, 09:53:06 PM
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Money power is the biggest thing here. It costs a lot of money to run a war, and when a country becomes economically weak, it is forced to end the war. But because many countries are dependent on Russian oil, those countries are buying oil from Russia even after various sanctions. And since Russia is able to sell oil, their money supply is not being cut off. Boycotting gambling websites depends on gamblers making their own decisions. Because if they think that this war in Russia is immoral, they can stand against Russia.
USA thinks Russia is like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Syra and Pakistan. But they are wrong. Russians have strong defence and they can fight back. Also the weather conditions in Russia are so intense that hardly any country can fight with them. It is the survival of the fittest. The fit one wins. . No One can help other country - but only them.
The boycott attempt is not effective, the sanctions are not that strong enough to stop Russia and let’s admit it, Russia is really powerful and look at their economy right now they are still doing good despite of the sanctions. The war might last longer until Russia destroy the whole Ukraine, it looks like they wont stop even there’s an international intervention. Russia sends a clear message here, and maybe this is the reason why other countries don’t want to make any move that might affect them later on. Its between Ukraine and Russia now, and I hope Ukraine can still survive.
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Money power is the biggest thing here. It costs a lot of money to run a war, and when a country becomes economically weak, it is forced to end the war. But because many countries are dependent on Russian oil, those countries are buying oil from Russia even after various sanctions. And since Russia is able to sell oil, their money supply is not being cut off. Boycotting gambling websites depends on gamblers making their own decisions. Because if they think that this war in Russia is immoral, they can stand against Russia.
USA thinks Russia is like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Syra and Pakistan. But they are wrong. Russians have strong defence and they can fight back. Also the weather conditions in Russia are so intense that hardly any country can fight with them. It is the survival of the fittest. The fit one wins. . No One can help other country - but only them.
Just like on what @decodx had been said above which i do fully agree that it might not really be giving that anticipate impact towards those sanctions and cutting off ties sentiments on stopping this war

but at least it do really molds out that kind of impression on which other countries internationally would really be cutting their relation or pulling businesses on Russia due to this war and finding it
to be a bad behavior or action which is something i couldnt really blame them off and if this would really make out some effect but as said as long they are supplying and selling those gas/oil
then it could really able to sustain which is something that could really patch it up.

They are confident on prolonging this one without any help or even lots of boycotts and sanctions been happening.

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then it could really able to sustain which is something that could really patch it up.

They are confident on prolonging this one without any help or even lots of boycotts and sanctions been happening.
Even after lots of sanctions and boycott Russia is able to stand strong alone.
It is not an easy task to defeat Russia, they are strong, Ruthless and have power to defend themselves economically, strategically and politically.
Cutting relationships with Russia is like cutting your life line.

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July 04, 2022, 08:29:34 PM
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then it could really able to sustain which is something that could really patch it up.

They are confident on prolonging this one without any help or even lots of boycotts and sanctions been happening.
Even after lots of sanctions and boycott Russia is able to stand strong alone.
It is not an easy task to defeat Russia, they are strong, Ruthless and have power to defend themselves economically, strategically and politically.
Cutting relationships with Russia is like cutting your life line.

They think they are that strong,the reality is that they defaulted on their debt,they cannot win in Ukraine except temporarily as the new long range weapons delivered in mass from many other countries are ready to go to the front line and defeat them from the temporary occupied territories.Their population is suffering and the suffering will continue for long to come,this all because of one man ego and many indoctrinated people there following what he is saying,Russia has achieved nothing so far except defeating itself economically in quite a big way,its military is losing personnel and military weapons from all times every day,so it would take time for them to rebuild,but it would be difficult because the west has imposed huge sanctions on them in chips and other goods making this recovery impossible.On top of that Putin got exactly the opposite of what he wanted,he wanted Ukraine and neighbors not in NATO,he is going to share a 1300 Km long border with Finland who will join NATO.

What has Russia achieved,absolutely nothing beside total destruction of its economy so far.The sanctions are already working,Russia is becoming weaker each day so the boycott is functioning perfectly.

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What has Russia achieved,absolutely nothing beside total destruction of its economy so far.The sanctions are already working,Russia is becoming weaker each day so the boycott is functioning perfectly.
That is a very long thread and still open.
I believe if the whole EU ban and USA sanctions have not been able to affect Russian decision then surely they are not bothered with people decision over the banning there sites. I think if the sites are offering some promotions and bonuses one should grab the opportunity.

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If there is any other way aside from violence, it must be pursued to keep the peace and harmony of the places. However, Putin chose to wage war which has so many consequences. Sure, they do what they deem is right and necessary. But to what extend? I just find it saddening and maddening that they will do everything just to prove they are right even if it's at the expense of the civilians and innocent people.

In reality the This WAR is new way of Making Money for some Countries Name You better Know, Some Countries are using Ukraine as Side Pupet to fight with Russia as they cant Directly attack Due to Russia's Strong Reaction and These countries in back can't afford it.

Reason simple and clear that If they will try to directly involve then it eill not be War of countries it will be War of Blocks China & Russia is already Dominating Asia & Gulf countries by their Allies so Europe has no chance because this time Russia is not alone agaisnt them.

Proof of Side Pupet : Nato Signed a Contract with Ukraine to $25B support in form of Military Equipments, from there you can see thatSome countries want to continue this all situation because $25B are not Funded for their Social Development its for Weapons

Edited: In answer of the Thread Main Question I will Answer that I will used to Always Bycot all the Gambling Platforms as i don't preffer Gambling its Haram in Islamic Economic

There is something that I have always wanted to say and it is that due to religion or favoritism towards a country it is never good to say it, because feelings can be hurt, in any war on both sides there will be deaths, people suffering, and this is something that only they they live, we see everything from a perspective far removed from what each country in question lives, in any war there is a lot of money associated with it, and this is a business model, which had not been activated and apparently is somewhat lucrative, if we attack the economic branches of any country, the only ones who will go wrong are the people, their people, not politicians, much less rulers, they have everything insured, I think this is the reason why I do not support a boycott of any country or Russia , or Ukraine or any other, if nothing else for money there are some who kill, now this is something worse.

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It is no secret to anyone that in wars there are unfortunately interests of the big ones, this is because the war between these two countries is generating an immense business model, between leaders of many countries, companies, among others, which seems bad to me is that there are lives that are sacrificed thanks to these interests, and unfortunately the world in general will always move with respect to the best business model they can obtain, although some, let's say in the lowest stratum that I consider "ignorance" under which is easy to do by manipulation, many Ukrainians and Russians die, and what should be stopped here is those deaths, a boycott will not solve it, I think that if the war will drag on, measures should be taken in another way.

One form of human greed is difficult to control.
Now the war continues even though many countries are proposing for peace or condemning this, it seems that it only heats up the atmosphere there because it is like pouring oil into a fire which does make this even more because the countries that interfere also have their own desires and greed regardless of how many lives. who was sacrificed.
Boycotts are now not very useful anymore because we have seen that there are some who have boycotted but the war is still going on and we don't know when it will end.
You are right, I think that at this point a boycott does not have much effect, war has a long-term effect, which is not pleasant, I did not like the way it turned out that a Russian attack did a great deal disaster in a shopping center in Ukraine where many innocent people died, these things are what should not happen, it is well known that this transcended to other powers, where the rulers are the ones who, to fight for them, hold these types of events, For me, any boycott of any kind will not be good, there are always many who will be wrong, they will lose jobs and you will have other unpleasant effects.

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July 14, 2022, 03:38:13 PM
Merited by LUCKMCFLY (1)
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If there is any other way aside from violence, it must be pursued to keep the peace and harmony of the places. However, Putin chose to wage war which has so many consequences. Sure, they do what they deem is right and necessary. But to what extend? I just find it saddening and maddening that they will do everything just to prove they are right even if it's at the expense of the civilians and innocent people.

In reality the This WAR is new way of Making Money for some Countries Name You better Know, Some Countries are using Ukraine as Side Pupet to fight with Russia as they cant Directly attack Due to Russia's Strong Reaction and These countries in back can't afford it.

Reason simple and clear that If they will try to directly involve then it eill not be War of countries it will be War of Blocks China & Russia is already Dominating Asia & Gulf countries by their Allies so Europe has no chance because this time Russia is not alone agaisnt them.

Proof of Side Pupet : Nato Signed a Contract with Ukraine to $25B support in form of Military Equipments, from there you can see thatSome countries want to continue this all situation because $25B are not Funded for their Social Development its for Weapons

Edited: In answer of the Thread Main Question I will Answer that I will used to Always Bycot all the Gambling Platforms as i don't preffer Gambling its Haram in Islamic Economic

There is something that I have always wanted to say and it is that due to religion or favoritism towards a country it is never good to say it, because feelings can be hurt, in any war on both sides there will be deaths, people suffering, and this is something that only they they live, we see everything from a perspective far removed from what each country in question lives, in any war there is a lot of money associated with it, and this is a business model, which had not been activated and apparently is somewhat lucrative, if we attack the economic branches of any country, the only ones who will go wrong are the people, their people, not politicians, much less rulers, they have everything insured, I think this is the reason why I do not support a boycott of any country or Russia , or Ukraine or any other, if nothing else for money there are some who kill, now this is something worse.


Boycotting the RF sites is about stoping the war. There is no war without a great amount of expenses. If a country runs out of funds for war, the war will stop, and that suffering and pain that you talk about will also stop. This is not about "favouritism", it is about stopping a country that, beyond any doubt, has started is actively waging a war against another. Any tax received by RF is a bullet.

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