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March 01, 2022, 06:41:57 PM Last edit: December 16, 2023, 07:05:04 PM by Fivestar4everMVP |
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It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely. It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches. Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory. What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
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It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely. It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.
Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.
What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24, however due to the suspension not only they will be unable to play but it seems Poland is going to move automatically to the Final of Path B to dispute a ticket to the world cup, it is unfortunate that something like this is happening but I think we all knew it was coming, in the sport world Russia had been sanctioned several times already, and now with the invasion of Ukraine it seems many sport federations simply decided it was too much and took measures against Russia.
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March 02, 2022, 10:36:18 PM |
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It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely. It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.
Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.
What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24, however due to the suspension not only they will be unable to play but it seems Poland is going to move automatically to the Final of Path B to dispute a ticket to the world cup, it is unfortunate that something like this is happening but I think we all knew it was coming, in the sport world Russia had been sanctioned several times already, and now with the invasion of Ukraine it seems many sport federations simply decided it was too much and took measures against Russia. Earlier Poland announced that it won't play against Russia for the invasion it has done on Ukraine. By the time it seemed like an easy go for Russia to enter the final of B. Now the official announcement have made Poland get into the final. Russia shouldn't have done this. To build a nation it requires years and years. Now the sufferings were to the citizens, think of this players. With big dreams they might've given the best, but in the middle everything got vanished. Then to play the same series, they don't know when this gonna happen.
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March 03, 2022, 01:34:40 PM |
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FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.
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March 03, 2022, 01:48:06 PM Last edit: March 03, 2022, 02:00:18 PM by mindrust |
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FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.
I wonder... why didn't FIFA ban the US when they were invading Iraq? (for nothing btw) Nobody was complaining back then when the US soldiers were bombing Baghdad and hanging Saddam Hussein live on TV. Suddenly everybody lost their shit when Russia is doing the same thing. I am not saying Russia is right to invade Ukraine. However, the reaction they are getting from the west is simply showing how two-faced the west really is. The US nuked Japan ffs. NUKED. Nobody cared.
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I get your point here, @mindrust. That is why I also agree with @masulum, that FIFA and any organization that would intend to do such suspension because of political conflicts, public safety and or any other matters, they must be consistent, fair and equivalent in making decisions for all. Because if not, it shows how personal biases are ignited and are emerging during these times.
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March 03, 2022, 02:29:31 PM |
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I wonder... why didn't FIFA ban the US when they were invading Iraq? (for nothing btw) Nobody was complaining back then when the US soldiers were bombing Baghdad and hanging Saddam Hussein live on TV. Suddenly everybody lost their shit when Russia is doing the same thing. I am not saying Russia is right to invade Ukraine. However, the reaction they are getting from the west is simply showing how two-faced the west really is.
The US nuked Japan ffs. NUKED. Nobody cared.
That's what disappointed me with FIFA or UEFA. They're like having a double standard that doesn't make sense. It is one proof of how the power of a handful of figures influences the neutrality of a global institution, sadly. If it didn't, there shouldn't be such a rule now. As a football observer of course I am disappointed, they have violated their own rules to become an independent institution unaffected by the political, economic countries of the world. This proves discrimination still exists.
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March 03, 2022, 03:05:31 PM |
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FIFA and UEFA tend to be easily influenced by political power. This will happen at any time to a country that is against an influential country. And talking about the national team club which is (in my opinion) only a small scope, with some political pressure to create the decision of a match like this. Can't imagine the loss when sports bettors have to lose without seeing the match. -snip- By the time it seemed like an easy go for Russia to enter the final of B. Now the official announcement have made Poland get into the final.
Just hope the betting company will consider canceling the bet as this is not a valid win.
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March 03, 2022, 03:59:25 PM |
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That's what disappointed me with FIFA or UEFA. They're like having a double standard that doesn't make sense. It is one proof of how the power of a handful of figures influences the neutrality of a global institution, sadly. If it didn't, there shouldn't be such a rule now. As a football observer of course I am disappointed, they have violated their own rules to become an independent institution unaffected by the political, economic countries of the world. This proves discrimination still exists.
The partiality of imposing strict sanctions on the suspension of football only to Russia shows the non-neutrality of FIFA or UEFA, if for humanitarian reasons it is necessary to reconsider that other colonial countries deserve an equivalent suspension, the point of assessment is that the suspension of FIFA or UEFA is due to factors of the political elite and not independent.
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That's what disappointed me with FIFA or UEFA. They're like having a double standard that doesn't make sense. It is one proof of how the power of a handful of figures influences the neutrality of a global institution, sadly. If it didn't, there shouldn't be such a rule now. As a football observer of course I am disappointed, they have violated their own rules to become an independent institution unaffected by the political, economic countries of the world. This proves discrimination still exists.
The partiality of imposing strict sanctions on the suspension of football only to Russia shows the non-neutrality of FIFA or UEFA, if for humanitarian reasons it is necessary to reconsider that other colonial countries deserve an equivalent suspension, the point of assessment is that the suspension of FIFA or UEFA is due to factors of the political elite and not independent. But FIFA and UEFA are part of the world, they are part of Europe and can not do things in isolation of their own. Russia is receiving sanctions of the action on Ukraine, in sports it is not only the football bodies that have come against Russia, like I read the Taekwondo federation have taken the black belt away from Putin. Again for example if for example UEFA and FIFA didn't suspend Russia and they need to travel to airspace that have been banned for Russian flight ? You see they can't travel too to meet up with games because Europe and America banned Russian flights. Again just today 141 countries have voted against the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, 5 voted for supporting Russia and 35 countries are indifferent, so what is the margin difference for support and no support. We can see that FIFA and UEFA are not going to act against the host countries. Those 141 countries that against the invasion are also members of FIFA and UEFA, they carry the decision of their countries. This is the way I see the analysis of the current sanctions here and there against Russia.
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March 03, 2022, 04:42:13 PM |
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FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.
I wonder... why didn't FIFA ban the US when they were invading Iraq? (for nothing btw) Nobody was complaining back then when the US soldiers were bombing Baghdad and hanging Saddam Hussein live on TV. Suddenly everybody lost their shit when Russia is doing the same thing. I am not saying Russia is right to invade Ukraine. However, the reaction they are getting from the west is simply showing how two-faced the west really is. The US nuked Japan ffs. NUKED. Nobody cared. I agree with you 100%. FIFA and UEFA didnt do anything back then. Now when Russia is attacking Ukraine they are getting blamed like this happened for the first time in the world. USA is in war every single year and no body says anything about them. Russian football players dreamt of going to the World Cup and now FIFA has taken that away from them. Its not their fault they are in war. This is why people dont like FIFA and UEFA these couple of years.
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Mr.Scott
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March 03, 2022, 05:00:37 PM |
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FIFA and UEFA have no choice but to take a heavy and hard decision after a growing number of countries say they will not compete against Russia. Some will criticize, while the rest will praise it. It is clear who supports and who does not. The situation might be unacceptable for the good of football, but that is how things are working. At least the European Football Association and FIFA are all in agreement about banning Russian football teams and all their affiliated clubs. It isn't a problem to be Russian; it is an action to minimize the temper of the European countries.
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Tumanggor
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1xBit.. recovered their reputation
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March 03, 2022, 06:10:01 PM |
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It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely. It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.
~ Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.
~ What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?
I think this is an attempt by fifa and uefa to help put pressure on putin to make peace with ukraine and i support that Without pressure, Putin will take it lightly and won't listen to other people, including his citizens. May the Russian people tirelessly continue to press for Putin to stop attacking, because the sanctions for fifa and uefa will only stop if peace is agreed
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March 03, 2022, 06:13:17 PM |
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I get your point here, @mindrust. That is why I also agree with @masulum, that FIFA and any organization that would intend to do such suspension because of political conflicts, public safety and or any other matters, they must be consistent, fair and equivalent in making decisions for all. Because if not, it shows how personal biases are ignited and are emerging during these times. That would be the ideal but we know that it is never going to happen, that will require that the ones at the top of FIFA were impartial and we know that is something that it is almost impossible for people to do. This is why I think a regulation inside FIFA should be discussed, and if they want to set a precedent with this then any federation which belongs to a country currently invading another should be suspend automatically regardless of the reasons behind the invasion, this way a decision like this would not be seen as unilateral or taking sides and the federations will know that such a sanction is coming, but I also doubt that something like this could take place.
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SquallLeonhart
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March 03, 2022, 09:18:42 PM |
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They are even getting kicked out of FIFA games as well from EA. I know that the war is horrible and disgusting, and sanctions makes sense, like kicking them out of swift systems makes sense, that's at least sanctions. But all these "kick the Russian students out", or "hold the NFTs of Russians" or now this one, hell they are kicked out of "cat federation" which I have no clue what that is, like why is that even a thing?
In sports F1, not being racing in the Russian track this year made sense, like that is understandable, that is not something weird, you may not want to go there and that's fine. But to avoid putting their teams on games? Like that one is a bit too much reaction.
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RILWAN
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Global peace initiative
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March 03, 2022, 09:29:18 PM |
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Why in goodness sake will anyone want war how can Putin bring down the entire country's economy and making citizens of another hardship that is currently being experienced in Ukraine, we all call for peace war is never welcome first was financial sanction and now FIFA and UEFA ban Russia from world football competition.
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gantez
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March 03, 2022, 09:31:32 PM |
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This is not what is in the power of the football bodies to do when other countries football teams have decided they won't play with Russia then the governing body has to make it official to prevent them from playing. Making it official is better so they can go home and settle issue. Russia is already facing lots of sanction and we can see it is affecting the people to live a good life and this is an example for other countries that will want to invade a smaller country.
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March 04, 2022, 04:31:18 AM |
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Western countries are eager to impose ban on Russia in whatsoever manner possible! This sports ban is just a part of it! There are obviously many countries who are not willing to play with Russia or keep any association with them at this moment. But do you think Russia deserves this?
If invading to Ukraine is the reason, US should have been banned from the world for invading Iraq and Afghanistan. Look at those countries now, they have completely collapsed due to the aggression from US which was initiated in the name of war against terrorism. Today's Russian attack on Ukraine is happening as NATO wanted to include Ukraine in their group despite not being eligible.
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