Who will Replace Russian Gas Supplies to Europe?

[be.open]

There is nothing irreplaceable in this world. It would be desirable to look for other options.

Well, walk around the market, look for other options. It looks like Nord Stream will close completely soon and gas in Europe will rise in price even more, if +40% to the price in a couple of days seems not enough for you. Surely, for such a good price, there are other gas suppliers to Europe, except for Russia.

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[Piesel]

Africa looks like the favorite client in the deal, gas pipes are already planted under the sea some time back but I don't know how effective that could be to offer some gas back up I have read a lot of unfriendly environments within that region too. So gas supply from that region cant is guaranteed.

[Sithara007]

There is nothing irreplaceable in this world. It would be desirable to look for other options.

Well, walk around the market, look for other options. It looks like Nord Stream will close completely soon and gas in Europe will rise in price even more, if +40% to the price in a couple of days seems not enough for you. Surely, for such a good price, there are other gas suppliers to Europe, except for Russia.

I just checked the spot prices for European natural gas and as soon as the news came up, it increased from around $1,200 per kcu.m to $1,550 per k.cu.m. The Europeans continue to shoot themselves in the foot. Russia is not directly impacted. Any shortfall in revenue from the decreased volume will be made up with the increasing prices.

BTW, from what I heard the reason for the latest supply cut is not political. One of the pumping stations for Nord Stream 1 had to be shut down, since Siemens refused to repair it (they can't, as a result of the sanctions). So this particular section had to be shut down and it directly impacted the overall capacity of the pipeline.

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BTW, from what I heard the reason for the latest supply cut is not political. One of the pumping stations for Nord Stream 1 had to be shut down, since Siemens refused to repair it (they can't, as a result of the sanctions). So this particular section had to be shut down and it directly impacted the overall capacity of the pipeline.

The Siemens turbine was taken to Canada for repairs and cannot be brought back due to sanctions. Gazprom stopped another turbine "due to the impossibility of safe operation." As a result, in two days, the volume of gas through Nord Stream fell from 170 to 67 million tons per day, and the price of gas in Europe increased by 40%.

ps Canada reports talks with Germany on Siemens-made Nord Stream 1 equipment

[Kadal Ijo]

Gas becomes a Russian force to suppress Europe, many European countries are very dependent on Russian gas supply, I still remember when Russia built a pipeline that reached thousands of kilometers and certainly not an easy thing to replace gas supply.

[Tony116]

There is nothing irreplaceable in this world. It would be desirable to look for other options. And such a desire among the EU countries appeared because of the direct blackmail of Russia.

It is true that the EU will still find other alternatives, as Russia is not the only country that can produce oil and gas. But if the EU imports from Egypt and Israel, it is certain that gas from the two countries will be cheaper than from Russia and the import will not increase the cost too much or will they import oil from India while India is a big customer of Russia. Honestly, it would be impossible to find a better alternative than Russia. All of this will be a burden on EU governments and citizens, this will not make the EU better and more comfortable.

[Wind_FURY]

In Germany, the government is crying over Russia's further cuts of gas supplies, accusing that Russia is doing it to drive up price, WHILE the same German government is telling other European countries to stop imports of Russian Natural Gas. Hahaha.

Should Germany should actually start a new Nuclear energy program to meet their energy needs? I'm a mere pleb, I don't know. The obvious answer, yes. I believe the United Kingdom has already started.

[be.open]

Should Germany should actually start a new Nuclear energy program to meet their energy needs? I'm a mere pleb, I don't know. The obvious answer, yes. I believe the United Kingdom has already started.

One of the problems with nuclear power is that everything is very slow there, it will take years, if not decades, to fully resume the European nuclear program. Another problem is with the source of enriched uranium supplies, which is approximately 40% controlled by Russia. There are also difficulties with unenriched uranium, it simply does not exist in Europe, and Africa does not seem to have the necessary enthusiasm to be a cash cow for its former colonialists. Another problem is the dramatic drop in the level of competence of European engineers in nuclear power. France's attempt to build a nuclear power plant in Finland in the early 2000s ended in complete failure, exceeding the original budget by three times. In general, there are a number of serious difficulties for Europe in this direction. And given that the most powerful Zaporozhye NPP in Europe actually left the European energy system and moved into the Russian energy system, there are already difficulties with load balancing in Europe, because windmills and solar panels are an unstable source of electricity, energy generation at night and in the absence of wind (or on the contrary, if the wind is too strong), it can drop to zero on them.

I don’t know what is in the head of European politicians who are overly enthusiastic about the green agenda, but there is a suspicion, turning into confidence, that there is burnt porridge.

[pooya87]

It is true that the EU will still find other alternatives, as Russia is not the only country that can produce oil and gas.

What alternative? The two countries that have almost half of the world's gas supplies (Russia and Iran) are not going to export anything to EU since they already have their customers and both are sanctioned by EU
The rest of the countries don't have enough to start replacing Russia.

But if the EU imports from Egypt and Israel,

Neither one have enough gas to start major exports! Egypt has 1% and Zioterrorists have less than 0.1% of global gas reserves.
The fake news posted above was only a hope to steal Iraq's gas (which isn't that much to begin with) with the help of Kurdish separatists and Zioterrorists then transfer it through Syria and Turkey to EU but the plan failed the moment Turkey's plans failed with the botched invasion of Northern Syria.

[Zaun]

In Germany, the government is crying over Russia's further cuts of gas supplies, accusing that Russia is doing it to drive up price, WHILE the same German government is telling other European countries to stop imports of Russian Natural Gas. Hahaha.

Should Germany should actually start a new Nuclear energy program to meet their energy needs? I'm a mere pleb, I don't know. The obvious answer, yes. I believe the United Kingdom has already started.

This could take some pressure off, however there must be done more. I think liquid gas can help salvage the problem. And yes invest hard in green energy will make us whole/ no more depence from Russia. Or other countries for that matter.

[Wind_FURY]

Should Germany should actually start a new Nuclear energy program to meet their energy needs? I'm a mere pleb, I don't know. The obvious answer, yes. I believe the United Kingdom has already started.

One of the problems with nuclear power is that everything is very slow there, it will take years, if not decades, to fully resume the European nuclear program. Another problem is with the source of enriched uranium supplies, which is approximately 40% controlled by Russia. There are also difficulties with unenriched uranium, it simply does not exist in Europe, and Africa does not seem to have the necessary enthusiasm to be a cash cow for its former colonialists.

 

Germany might have believed too much in its Renewable Energy program, that they might have thought they were not coming back to Nuclear Energy. Plus can Uranium be stored? Or can Russia use their Uranium exports to punish Europe/the U.S. again?

Another problem is the dramatic drop in the level of competence of European engineers in nuclear power. France's attempt to build a nuclear power plant in Finland in the early 2000s ended in complete failure, exceeding the original budget by three times. In general, there are a number of serious difficulties for Europe in this direction. And given that the most powerful Zaporozhye NPP in Europe actually left the European energy system and moved into the Russian energy system, there are already difficulties with load balancing in Europe, because windmills and solar panels are an unstable source of electricity, energy generation at night and in the absence of wind (or on the contrary, if the wind is too strong), it can drop to zero on them.

I don’t know what is in the head of European politicians who are overly enthusiastic about the green agenda, but there is a suspicion, turning into confidence, that there is burnt porridge.

Shower thought. Black Swan = World War III?

I believe if Germany and the restof Europe is pushed enough, they might strike back and use Ukraine as the entry.

[Pesona1]

In Germany, the government is crying over Russia's further cuts of gas supplies, accusing that Russia is doing it to drive up price, WHILE the same German government is telling other European countries to stop imports of Russian Natural Gas. Hahaha.

Should Germany should actually start a new Nuclear energy program to meet their energy needs? I'm a mere pleb, I don't know. The obvious answer, yes. I believe the United Kingdom has already started.

This could take some pressure off, however there must be done more. I think liquid gas can help salvage the problem. And yes invest hard in green energy will make us whole/ no more depence from Russia. Or other countries for that matter.

Germany seems to have forgotten that they have been aggressively embargoing Russia all this time and now they are actually making a joke if Russia raises oil prices , it seems they are now starting to get cornered by the consequences of what they did to Russia, now Germany is reportedly starting to cooperate with Senegal to reduce dependence on gas from Russia, cooperation between Senegal and Germany is expected to be an alternative in supplying gas to the country.

[Sithara007]

Germany seems to have forgotten that they have been aggressively embargoing Russia all this time and now they are actually making a joke if Russia raises oil prices , it seems they are now starting to get cornered by the consequences of what they did to Russia, now Germany is reportedly starting to cooperate with Senegal to reduce dependence on gas from Russia, cooperation between Senegal and Germany is expected to be an alternative in supplying gas to the country.

The situation is actually very funny. The Germans are making a laughing stock of themselves. They were actually making a good amount of money for themselves, by milking Russia. The Nord Stream 1 meant that Germany receives Russian gas at dirt-cheap prices. The German industries were flourishing with this cheap gas, and the operator was making a lot of profit by reselling some of this gas to neighboring nations such as Poland. Also, Germany was receiving large quantities of Urals crude through the Druzhba pipeline, and the refineries in the former GDR were making billions of Euros in profit every month. Then the Germans started acting like retards. They imposed sanctions on Russia and ended up giving all the luxuries they were enjoying before.

[be.open]

Should Germany should actually start a new Nuclear energy program to meet their energy needs? I'm a mere pleb, I don't know. The obvious answer, yes. I believe the United Kingdom has already started.

One of the problems with nuclear power is that everything is very slow there, it will take years, if not decades, to fully resume the European nuclear program. Another problem is with the source of enriched uranium supplies, which is approximately 40% controlled by Russia. There are also difficulties with unenriched uranium, it simply does not exist in Europe, and Africa does not seem to have the necessary enthusiasm to be a cash cow for its former colonialists.

 

Germany might have believed too much in its Renewable Energy program, that they might have thought they were not coming back to Nuclear Energy. Plus can Uranium be stored? Or can Russia use their Uranium exports to punish Europe/the U.S. again?

It's strange that this is surprising to you. Russia is a very strong player in the energy market, and in many aspects (including uranium enrichment). And of course, in the context of sanctions and the actual economic war between the West and Russia, Russia will use all its weighty arguments to secure victory or at least an advantage. The United States also cannot do without the supply of enriched uranium from Russia, it provides approximately 20% of all electricity generation at nuclear power plants in the United States.

Shower thought. Black Swan = World War III?

I believe if Germany and the restof Europe is pushed enough, they might strike back and use Ukraine as the entry.

Germany now does not have a combat-ready army capable of resisting Russia. No one in NATO, including the United States, has a combat-ready army capable of resisting Russia (which is why NATO is so diligently distancing itself from direct participation in the conflict in Ukraine). Don't be fooled, most European armies are decorative, like the Vatican Guards.

update:

The scheduled annual maintenance of the Turkish Stream will take place from 21 to 28 June.

Gas transportation along both strings of the Turkish Stream gas pipeline will be temporarily suspended from 21 to 28 June 2022 due to scheduled preventive maintenance.

The suspension of gas transportation was agreed upon by all interested parties in advance.

[galambo]

What alternative? The two countries that have almost half of the world's gas supplies (Russia and Iran) are not going to export anything to EU since they already have their customers and both are sanctioned by EU
The rest of the countries don't have enough to start replacing Russia.

Neither one have enough gas to start major exports! Egypt has 1% and Zioterrorists have less than 0.1% of global gas reserves.
The fake news posted above was only a hope to steal Iraq's gas (which isn't that much to begin with) with the help of Kurdish separatists and Zioterrorists then transfer it through Syria and Turkey to EU but the plan failed the moment Turkey's plans failed with the botched invasion of Northern Syria.

OPEC countries like KSA, UAE and Kuwait are puppets of USA and they do what the master says since all of there money is residing in USA banks, Russia and Iran are rich in gas and both under sanctions but Russia is strong enough to by pass these sanctions and sell it to countries of its choice. While Iran neighbor like Pakistan are weak enough to buy gas from Iran due to USA pressure rather prefer buying expensive LNGs from Qatar. The world must end this dual face character.

[Cryptock]

The situation is actually very funny. The Germans are making a laughing stock of themselves. They were actually making a good amount of money for themselves, by milking Russia. The Nord Stream 1 meant that Germany receives Russian gas at dirt-cheap prices. The German industries were flourishing with this cheap gas, and the operator was making a lot of profit by reselling some of this gas to neighboring nations such as Poland. Also, Germany was receiving large quantities of Urals crude through the Druzhba pipeline, and the refineries in the former GDR were making billions of Euros in profit every month. Then the Germans started acting like retards. They imposed sanctions on Russia and ended up giving all the luxuries they were enjoying before.

Noone care for anyone. They only care for themselves. Russian were adment that they will attack Ukraine. They did it despite of the fact - on the same day Pakistani PM was on the visit to Russia. This is brought so much political instability in Pakistan too - now the people of Pakistan start believing that their PM should not have visited Russia.

[Freeesta]

Gas becomes a Russian force to suppress Europe, many European countries are very dependent on Russian gas supply, I still remember when Russia built a pipeline that reached thousands of kilometers and certainly not an easy thing to replace gas supply.

Of course! Why not? And Europe should not forget about it. If European leaders do not want to stay in the winter in the cold. There is very little time left to find alternative energy sources..... which do not exist. Russia has a strong president to benefit from this situation and that would be the right thing to do.

[WatChe]

Biden to send another $1 billion in military aid to Ukraine

The situation is not as straight as it looks like, on one side they saying Russia has invaded Ukarine and on other side USA is continuously selling arms to Ukarine so that they can beat Russia. USA is in win-win situation, if ukarine wins its a victory for USA and even if Ukarine falls then USA has nothing to lose. The only one suffering from this war are people of Ukarine for whom no one is thinking. Big powers must sit and see what they can do to settle this issue/

[Rasa nanas]

Biden to send another $1 billion in military aid to Ukraine

The situation is not as straight as it looks like, on one side they saying Russia has invaded Ukarine and on other side USA is continuously selling arms to Ukarine so that they can beat Russia. USA is in win-win situation, if ukarine wins its a victory for USA and even if Ukarine falls then USA has nothing to lose. The only one suffering from this war are people of Ukarine for whom no one is thinking. Big powers must sit and see what they can do to settle this issue/

don't forget that the russians only use 16% of the military power they have. Russia didn't use most of the military power they had because basically Russia didn't want to invade Ukraine because Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union. The mandatory gas payment in rubles is Russia's strategy to prevent the value of their currency from falling and on the other hand also causes America to no longer be in a "win win" situation as you say because this strategy has also been proven to make the USD value decline.

[Cryptock]

Biden to send another $1 billion in military aid to Ukraine

The situation is not as straight as it looks like, on one side they saying Russia has invaded Ukarine and on other side USA is continuously selling arms to Ukarine so that they can beat Russia. USA is in win-win situation, if ukarine wins its a victory for USA and even if Ukarine falls then USA has nothing to lose. The only one suffering from this war are people of Ukarine for whom no one is thinking. Big powers must sit and see what they can do to settle this issue/

don't forget that the russians only use 16% of the military power they have. Russia didn't use most of the military power they had because basically Russia didn't want to invade Ukraine because Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union. The mandatory gas payment in rubles is Russia's strategy to prevent the value of their currency from falling and on the other hand also causes America to no longer be in a "win win" situation as you say because this strategy has also been proven to make the USD value decline.

If most of the countries will start paying in Ruble - this will be a game changer. This will change the whole economy of the world.
The petrodollar deal is the basic deal which has kept dollar powerful - what would happen if the Ruble gets the same fame as dollar? Of Course the Ruble will rule.