Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?

[perla]

This is possible situation that some casinos increases the RTP after they attract gamblers attention, but mostly they don`t need to change anything i think. They have gamblers, who got promotion and don`t want to change casino for 1-2% of RTP. And the situation with high promotions and RTP the same time is possible for large casinos or new casinos with big money that the owners ready to spent in marketing. These casinos may get nice profit, but the first time they need money to start.

It's always needed as starting out, money to start out and using it correctly like in promotions to get more players that they'll targeting as they begin with the business.
And that's what's happening next, they'll be returning the favor to them through giving the benefits and advantage to the players. If they're good at it, they'll make a lot of them to stay based on the rtp they do.

It can be different ways of start. Someone can choose the model with lots of promotions and high RTP. In this case they spend lots of money at promotions from start and slowly get refund due to high RTP. But they can get a lot of gamblers from start and they willn`t be disappointed later because it willn`t be RTP or promotion decrease.
The case with decreasing RTP or promotions can help to get refund faster but it`s possible that the casino will loose some gamblers after program change.

That is right but and I think they should not constantly change or lower the RTP most of the VIP consider this one and I think this is a big deal for them because they will be playing for a long time maybe only lower or reduce the promotion but I see in most of the established gambling site they don't reduce the promotion and RTP of their casinos.

[tabas]

This is possible situation that some casinos increases the RTP after they attract gamblers attention, but mostly they don`t need to change anything i think. They have gamblers, who got promotion and don`t want to change casino for 1-2% of RTP. And the situation with high promotions and RTP the same time is possible for large casinos or new casinos with big money that the owners ready to spent in marketing. These casinos may get nice profit, but the first time they need money to start.

It's always needed as starting out, money to start out and using it correctly like in promotions to get more players that they'll targeting as they begin with the business.
And that's what's happening next, they'll be returning the favor to them through giving the benefits and advantage to the players. If they're good at it, they'll make a lot of them to stay based on the rtp they do.

It can be different ways of start. Someone can choose the model with lots of promotions and high RTP. In this case they spend lots of money at promotions from start and slowly get refund due to high RTP. But they can get a lot of gamblers from start and they willn`t be disappointed later because it willn`t be RTP or promotion decrease.
The case with decreasing RTP or promotions can help to get refund faster but it`s possible that the casino will loose some gamblers after program change.

If from the beginning they already that both flowing funds for both of it then that's a good start. There are gamblers that have been used to the program.
And it's really likely that when they don't like the changes, they'll just leave it and will find another one and good to stay as long as they like all the terms.

[zidanw]

For a gambler that is not playing for most of the time I consider lots of promotion particularly the seasonal promotions that was given by the gambling sites and only play with those promotions so it is not a big deal for me if the RTP is low but I would appreciate it if they increase it or it is fixed at a highest percentage.

[Chato1977]

For a gambler that is not playing for most of the time I consider lots of promotion particularly the seasonal promotions that was given by the gambling sites and only play with those promotions so it is not a big deal for me if the RTP is low but I would appreciate it if they increase it or it is fixed at a highest percentage.

This is the problem if you are not a regular gambler because you will choose the promotions as this is some sort of freebies when you come to play , but for me? it is the RTP in which i am seeking , mostly because i am an active gambler in the past but just like you nowadays.

and I al also a sometimes winner of a Gambling events couple of times in the past so maybe both is what i will choose here now?

[mak013]

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That is right but and I think they should not constantly change or lower the RTP most of the VIP consider this one and I think this is a big deal for them because they will be playing for a long time maybe only lower or reduce the promotion but I see in most of the established gambling site they don't reduce the promotion and RTP of their casinos.

You are talking about casinos which were created enough long time ago. They have their players, their rules, their reputation. They don`t need to decrease anything - they lose both gamblers and reputation. They work on improving casino. But i can`t say that at the start they gave the same conditions that now.

[AmoreJaz]

For a gambler that is not playing for most of the time I consider lots of promotion particularly the seasonal promotions that was given by the gambling sites and only play with those promotions so it is not a big deal for me if the RTP is low but I would appreciate it if they increase it or it is fixed at a highest percentage.

This is the problem if you are not a regular gambler because you will choose the promotions as this is some sort of freebies when you come to play , but for me? it is the RTP in which i am seeking , mostly because i am an active gambler in the past but just like you nowadays.

and I al also a sometimes winner of a Gambling events couple of times in the past so maybe both is what i will choose here now?

it depends on what kind of gambler you are. you're right, if you're a regular gambler, you would choose the better RTP. but for an occasional gambler, usually, they look for bonuses/promotions.
in any case, there are other factors to consider. other than this RTP feature.

[rodskee]

For a gambler that is not playing for most of the time I consider lots of promotion particularly the seasonal promotions that was given by the gambling sites and only play with those promotions so it is not a big deal for me if the RTP is low but I would appreciate it if they increase it or it is fixed at a highest percentage.

This is the problem if you are not a regular gambler because you will choose the promotions as this is some sort of freebies when you come to play , but for me? it is the RTP in which i am seeking , mostly because i am an active gambler in the past but just like you nowadays.

and I al also a sometimes winner of a Gambling events couple of times in the past so maybe both is what i will choose here now?

it depends on what kind of gambler you are. you're right, if you're a regular gambler, you would choose the better RTP. but for an occasional gambler, usually, they look for bonuses/promotions.
in any case, there are other factors to consider. other than this RTP feature.

That is the exact point here so it always depend on what type of gambler we are , either a big loser or a complete winner ? it will always depend on how we treat gambling and how we are dealing with this, Lucky that I am not one of those who gamble to Win always instead what I love to do is enjoy the activities and if wins? then that would be my bonus .
I always wanted something that will bring me happiness than sadness so losing is just a part of my gaming but my main intention is the feeling inside the game.

[michellee]

For a gambler that is not playing for most of the time I consider lots of promotion particularly the seasonal promotions that was given by the gambling sites and only play with those promotions so it is not a big deal for me if the RTP is low but I would appreciate it if they increase it or it is fixed at a highest percentage.

This is the problem if you are not a regular gambler because you will choose the promotions as this is some sort of freebies when you come to play , but for me? it is the RTP in which i am seeking , mostly because i am an active gambler in the past but just like you nowadays.

and I al also a sometimes winner of a Gambling events couple of times in the past so maybe both is what i will choose here now?

it depends on what kind of gambler you are. you're right, if you're a regular gambler, you would choose the better RTP. but for an occasional gambler, usually, they look for bonuses/promotions.
in any case, there are other factors to consider. other than this RTP feature.

That is the exact point here so it always depend on what type of gambler we are , either a big loser or a complete winner ? it will always depend on how we treat gambling and how we are dealing with this, Lucky that I am not one of those who gamble to Win always instead what I love to do is enjoy the activities and if wins? then that would be my bonus .
I always wanted something that will bring me happiness than sadness so losing is just a part of my gaming but my main intention is the feeling inside the game.

But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.

[Hamphser]

For a gambler that is not playing for most of the time I consider lots of promotion particularly the seasonal promotions that was given by the gambling sites and only play with those promotions so it is not a big deal for me if the RTP is low but I would appreciate it if they increase it or it is fixed at a highest percentage.

This is the problem if you are not a regular gambler because you will choose the promotions as this is some sort of freebies when you come to play , but for me? it is the RTP in which i am seeking , mostly because i am an active gambler in the past but just like you nowadays.

and I al also a sometimes winner of a Gambling events couple of times in the past so maybe both is what i will choose here now?

it depends on what kind of gambler you are. you're right, if you're a regular gambler, you would choose the better RTP. but for an occasional gambler, usually, they look for bonuses/promotions.
in any case, there are other factors to consider. other than this RTP feature.

That is the exact point here so it always depend on what type of gambler we are , either a big loser or a complete winner ? it will always depend on how we treat gambling and how we are dealing with this, Lucky that I am not one of those who gamble to Win always instead what I love to do is enjoy the activities and if wins? then that would be my bonus .
I always wanted something that will bring me happiness than sadness so losing is just a part of my gaming but my main intention is the feeling inside the game.

But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.

Doesnt matter if its low RTP or high because we know the chance or odds of ending up to be profitable with Slots is really less likely to happen for most gamblers. As for promotions then it should be a default thing because as a business then it would really be normal on having these things for hooking up players on playing on the site.

Its up to someone whether they do mind off about low or high RTP but in most cases we arent really that mindful about that manner when we do talk about slot games.

[Eureka_07]

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Actually, I think experienced slot players do mind on the RTP of the slots before playing them. So I think it does matter. Higher RTP means higher chance not to lose much, vice versa, however it is not guaranteed, a player can still end up having $20 after playing 100 spins for $1 bet pet spin.  

In my opinion, it is good to take advantage of these promotions rather than playing everyday.

[Naficopa]

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Actually, I think experienced slot players do mind on the RTP of the slots before playing them. So I think it does matter. Higher RTP means higher chance not to lose much, vice versa, however it is not guaranteed, a player can still end up having $20 after playing 100 spins for $1 bet pet spin.  

In my opinion, it is good to take advantage of these promotions rather than playing everyday.

OP meant that because the casino spends a lot of money on marketing, it most likely increases the RTP.

Of course it's the most important thing for most of the slots players. However, I think the casino cannot just set the RTP as it wants. It probably has a range in which it can move, but we can check the maximum RTP simply with the software provider. Such information should be publicly available.

[mak013]

But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.

I think that only a professional gambler with a huge quantity of games can understand difference between 94 and 95 percent RTP. For gambler is better high RTP and promotion the same time, of course, and if promotion are the same, i will choose the casino with the highest RTP, but it willn`t be the main reason of the choice for me.

[crzy]

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Actually, I think experienced slot players do mind on the RTP of the slots before playing them. So I think it does matter. Higher RTP means higher chance not to lose much, vice versa, however it is not guaranteed, a player can still end up having $20 after playing 100 spins for $1 bet pet spin.  

In my opinion, it is good to take advantage of these promotions rather than playing everyday.

Depends on the promotions since not all promotions are about gamblers, sometimes the casinos choses to hire an influencer and that could not affect the player itself. If you’re into slots games you want to have that higher chance, yes you can participate on those promotions but still someone can be ahead of you and you might lose more because of this. I still prefer to gamble on a high probability, winning can also be more fun.

[smyslov]

But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.

I think that only a professional gambler with a huge quantity of games can understand difference between 94 and 95 percent RTP. For gambler is better high RTP and promotion the same time, of course, and if promotion are the same, i will choose the casino with the highest RTP, but it willn`t be the main reason of the choice for me.

There are a lot of factors not only on RTP and promotion that will want you to stay and be part of a casino's features like responsiveness to complaints and fairness of the game, RTP and promotions are good between the two RTP are far better because it will motivate gamblers to play deposit more and play and it's a win-win for both parties.

[ralle14]

Depends on the promotions since not all promotions are about gamblers, sometimes the casinos choses to hire an influencer and that could not affect the player itself. If you’re into slots games you want to have that higher chance, yes you can participate on those promotions but still someone can be ahead of you and you might lose more because of this. I still prefer to gamble on a high probability, winning can also be more fun.

From my experience participating in slot promotions is usually a hit or miss though since there are promotions that are based on multipliers you get and it's difficult when these games would just suck your bankroll after countless spins.

In my opinion, it is good to take advantage of these promotions rather than playing everyday.

I agree, on the gambler's side not everyone plays the same game and sometimes there are promotions that are like hidden gems that'll give you a decent chunk of profit.

[darewaller]

it depends on what kind of gambler you are. you're right, if you're a regular gambler, you would choose the better RTP. but for an occasional gambler, usually, they look for bonuses/promotions.
in any case, there are other factors to consider. other than this RTP feature.

That is the exact point here so it always depend on what type of gambler we are , either a big loser or a complete winner ? it will always depend on how we treat gambling and how we are dealing with this, Lucky that I am not one of those who gamble to Win always instead what I love to do is enjoy the activities and if wins? then that would be my bonus .
I always wanted something that will bring me happiness than sadness so losing is just a part of my gaming but my main intention is the feeling inside the game.

But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.

I think that RTP matters a lot but it is not the most important thing, why? Because in a good RTP place, you will gamble and lose anyway, because there is a house edge and everyone loses money and it has always been like that, because that is what gambling is all about and never allows you to profit.

However, with good promotions, at least there is a chance that they could make money from everyone and give that to one person. Like for example freebitco.in allows you to gamble, with a high house edge, but they give away so much and you could get free spins or you could get lottery tickets which could result with a very high return, they still profit, just take that from others.

[zidanw]

I think that RTP matters a lot but it is not the most important thing, why? Because in a good RTP place, you will gamble and lose anyway, because there is a house edge and everyone loses money and it has always been like that, because that is what gambling is all about and never allows you to profit.

However, with good promotions, at least there is a chance that they could make money from everyone and give that to one person. Like for example freebitco.in allows you to gamble, with a high house edge, but they give away so much and you could get free spins or you could get lottery tickets which could result with a very high return, they still profit, just take that from others.

Actually both is important but you are right I still go with the promotion since there are times that I actually won bonuses from promotions but not all the time and with bonuses even though the wagering requirement is difficult there is a chance that I could win without risking anything.

[michellee]

Doesnt matter if its low RTP or high because we know the chance or odds of ending up to be profitable with Slots is really less likely to happen for most gamblers. As for promotions then it should be a default thing because as a business then it would really be normal on having these things for hooking up players on playing on the site.

Its up to someone whether they do mind off about low or high RTP but in most cases we arent really that mindful about that manner when we do talk about slot games.

Many of us also do not think about RTP but gamble by trying other games. We know in one provider that there are so many games we can choose from and many of those games have a high RTP. Indeed we can not know how many opportunities we have but by playing, we can enjoy the game without thinking about RTP. We only look for games that can give us fun.

I think that only a professional gambler with a huge quantity of games can understand difference between 94 and 95 percent RTP. For gambler is better high RTP and promotion the same time, of course, and if promotion are the same, i will choose the casino with the highest RTP, but it willn`t be the main reason of the choice for me.

Maybe. But we don't need to be professional gamblers just to understand the RTP difference because we can only see if the RTP is high or low or medium before we play. Choosing the highest RTP is a good idea but we should not expect too much that the highest RTP can give us victory. We must remember that a high RTP does not guarantee us a win.

I think that RTP matters a lot but it is not the most important thing, why? Because in a good RTP place, you will gamble and lose anyway, because there is a house edge and everyone loses money and it has always been like that, because that is what gambling is all about and never allows you to profit.

However, with good promotions, at least there is a chance that they could make money from everyone and give that to one person. Like for example freebitco.in allows you to gamble, with a high house edge, but they give away so much and you could get free spins or you could get lottery tickets which could result with a very high return, they still profit, just take that from others.

Some will consider RTP to be important but others, perhaps, will consider it ordinary because they choose to look for gambling games that can make them feel good about spending their time.

What Freebitco.in does is how they can please its users and maybe that's what keeps them going until now. In addition to providing a high home advantage, users can also win other prizes through lottery tickets and exchange for various other prizes.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.

Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.

^ Probably a low-budget casino will for sure consider first the promotions especially for those gambling casinos that have been recently started or those did not yet have decent users. After they will benefit from their promotions it could be the RTP will follow and most usually we see it here, promotions first, and then when it is effective they will have a high RTP to maintain their user stay on the site.
However, there are gambling casino that most generous giving promotions and RTP, probably because this also have a high return to them when the more users have the more profit will come.

Consequently, do you think there should be a balance between RTP and promotions? because I know that the impact of a high RTP is undoubtedly a loss of promotion quality, but the casino would be taking more stability, and in part the casino must do everything possible so that it does not fall in profits or in maintenance, but a casino lives off its customers, which makes it a faithful servant for them, so that every customer feels that they are better than at home.

For me the promotions are important, the RTP should be in balance with it, I have not thought that if the balance tilts to one side who would benefit?

[carlfebz2]

But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.

I think that only a professional gambler with a huge quantity of games can understand difference between 94 and 95 percent RTP. For gambler is better high RTP and promotion the same time, of course, and if promotion are the same, i will choose the casino with the highest RTP, but it willn`t be the main reason of the choice for me.

There are a lot of factors not only on RTP and promotion that will want you to stay and be part of a casino's features like responsiveness to complaints and fairness of the game, RTP and promotions are good between the two RTP are far better because it will motivate gamblers to play deposit more and play and it's a win-win for both parties.

I dont believe about win-win situation because when it comes to this then we know that house/provider would be always the winner in the end on the time you do spent your time that much with slots.Doesnt matter if

you are dealing with low or high RTP because in long runs and if you dont really have good self control then you would most likely lost those gambling capital of yours in long run thats why if you do play gambling
then dont expect that much because dealing with luck based type of games doesnt really give any positive results most of the time.