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I think RTP is the most important factor to the gamblers. The good RTP a gambling site, the more interesting the gambling site is. But many a users came to gamble on the gambling site by being influenced by seeing promotional offer. So, promotional offer plays a vital role too.
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I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.
Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at. If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere. ^ Probably a low-budget casino will for sure consider first the promotions especially for those gambling casinos that have been recently started or those did not yet have decent users. After they will benefit from their promotions it could be the RTP will follow and most usually we see it here, promotions first, and then when it is effective they will have a high RTP to maintain their user stay on the site. However, there are gambling casino that most generous giving promotions and RTP, probably because this also have a high return to them when the more users have the more profit will come. Consequently, do you think there should be a balance between RTP and promotions? because I know that the impact of a high RTP is undoubtedly a loss of promotion quality, but the casino would be taking more stability, and in part the casino must do everything possible so that it does not fall in profits or in maintenance, but a casino lives off its customers, which makes it a faithful servant for them, so that every customer feels that they are better than at home. For me the promotions are important, the RTP should be in balance with it, I have not thought that if the balance tilts to one side who would benefit? Even though RTP is one of the most find by the different gambler with also higher offer i guess still in the gambling platform it might be a lose to their side unless there's a largest wager event and only people who are in the top 10 approximately are the one who have the opportunity, but i saw different platform offering with higher RTP i guess this is part of their marketing strategy which is good too its all about the decision of the gambling platform at the end of the day its their reputation and earnings too.
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April 20, 2022, 02:43:49 AM |
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Even though RTP is one of the most find by the different gambler with also higher offer i guess still in the gambling platform it might be a lose to their side unless there's a largest wager event and only people who are in the top 10 approximately are the one who have the opportunity, but i saw different platform offering with higher RTP i guess this is part of their marketing strategy which is good too its all about the decision of the gambling platform at the end of the day its their reputation and earnings too.
Waggerring offer is profitable for only those who played more but good RTP is for all the gamblers. In this case dont you think RTP is more important than waggerring. Also, the higher the rank is the higer the waggerring bonus is. But RTP plays same role for all the gamblers.
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Even though RTP is one of the most find by the different gambler with also higher offer i guess still in the gambling platform it might be a lose to their side unless there's a largest wager event and only people who are in the top 10 approximately are the one who have the opportunity, but i saw different platform offering with higher RTP i guess this is part of their marketing strategy which is good too its all about the decision of the gambling platform at the end of the day its their reputation and earnings too.
Waggerring offer is profitable for only those who played more but good RTP is for all the gamblers. In this case dont you think RTP is more important than waggerring. Also, the higher the rank is the higer the waggerring bonus is. But RTP plays same role for all the gamblers. Yeah, I guess it depends on what type of player you are. If you are grinding for these levels then sure. Promos could make a bit more sense for you. But to get to these wagering levels you have to run through a lot of betting volume anyway and you're significantly worse off if you have a bad RTP to work with to begin with. So definitely agree with your sentiment that RTP is more important in the big picture.
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April 21, 2022, 07:57:52 AM |
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But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.
I think that only a professional gambler with a huge quantity of games can understand difference between 94 and 95 percent RTP. For gambler is better high RTP and promotion the same time, of course, and if promotion are the same, i will choose the casino with the highest RTP, but it willn`t be the main reason of the choice for me. There are a lot of factors not only on RTP and promotion that will want you to stay and be part of a casino's features like responsiveness to complaints and fairness of the game, RTP and promotions are good between the two RTP are far better because it will motivate gamblers to play deposit more and play and it's a win-win for both parties. Of course it is so and the main reason to choose casino for me not the promotion or high RTP. But when i made a list of casinos that are good for me with the main requirements - i begin compare their opportunities. And here i choose options that can increase my profit - the promotions and high RTP are in this list.
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For a gambler that is not playing for most of the time I consider lots of promotion particularly the seasonal promotions that was given by the gambling sites and only play with those promotions so it is not a big deal for me if the RTP is low but I would appreciate it if they increase it or it is fixed at a highest percentage.
This is the problem if you are not a regular gambler because you will choose the promotions as this is some sort of freebies when you come to play , but for me? it is the RTP in which i am seeking , mostly because i am an active gambler in the past but just like you nowadays. and I al also a sometimes winner of a Gambling events couple of times in the past so maybe both is what i will choose here now? it depends on what kind of gambler you are. you're right, if you're a regular gambler, you would choose the better RTP. but for an occasional gambler, usually, they look for bonuses/promotions. Yes and that's me mate, I know where a Stand and I know what i choose to believe , this is the reason why Until now I am safe in my crypto gambling . in any case, there are other factors to consider. other than this RTP feature.
But that is the topic all about , so Yes depend on what gamblers we are and what type of offers the site offers us.
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April 21, 2022, 11:49:20 AM |
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But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.
I think that only a professional gambler with a huge quantity of games can understand difference between 94 and 95 percent RTP. For gambler is better high RTP and promotion the same time, of course, and if promotion are the same, i will choose the casino with the highest RTP, but it willn`t be the main reason of the choice for me. There are a lot of factors not only on RTP and promotion that will want you to stay and be part of a casino's features like responsiveness to complaints and fairness of the game, RTP and promotions are good between the two RTP are far better because it will motivate gamblers to play deposit more and play and it's a win-win for both parties. Sometimes this one is one of important factor we need to consider because it also hard to sleep with at ease if we got some huge problem and the representative is not active enough to solve our issues so gamblers should also look on this before selecting a casino to play. But since this one is not included on the choices given by OP I guess we must choose what is more better option to us and its really interesting to read people answer to this discussion.
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April 21, 2022, 02:46:24 PM |
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Sometimes this one is one of important factor we need to consider because it also hard to sleep with at ease if we got some huge problem and the representative is not active enough to solve our issues so gamblers should also look on this before selecting a casino to play. But since this one is not included on the choices given by OP I guess we must choose what is more better option to us and its really interesting to read people answer to this discussion.
Actually there's a lot of things you should consider in a gambling site and not only promotions or RTP let's assume that they offer good RTP and promotion but they have poor performance in support and security this would be a factor too right? but yes the OP's question is only in RTP and promotion which I think it should be balance in my opinion.
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The fact is, regardless of the RTP, still, losing is always bound to happen in the long run.
If that's the case then just hope that there will be lots of promotions that the said site will deploy to somehow aside from waiting for our luck to come, we are sure to have those advantages at these promotions.
The question is, how attractive those promotions are. If that's not catchy, then it will just be totally ignored.
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April 21, 2022, 04:33:39 PM |
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Sometimes this one is one of important factor we need to consider because it also hard to sleep with at ease if we got some huge problem and the representative is not active enough to solve our issues so gamblers should also look on this before selecting a casino to play. But since this one is not included on the choices given by OP I guess we must choose what is more better option to us and its really interesting to read people answer to this discussion.
Actually there's a lot of things you should consider in a gambling site and not only promotions or RTP let's assume that they offer good RTP and promotion but they have poor performance in support and security this would be a factor too right? but yes the OP's question is only in RTP and promotion which I think it should be balance in my opinion. If that's the case, I think many of us don't want to try it because we don't want to get into trouble when playing gambling or after playing gambling and want to withdraw the winning money. That means we also have to see if the casino has a good or bad performance, which can be taken into account in our decision so that even if the casino only has one of them, RTP or promotion, we won't have any problems later.
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I think RTP is the most important factor to the gamblers. The good RTP a gambling site, the more interesting the gambling site is. But many a users came to gamble on the gambling site by being influenced by seeing promotional offer. So, promotional offer plays a vital role too.
A lower RTP is a promotion for itself! So RTP plays a vital role, but not crucial! Like any other promotion! The promotion is as good as it suits us as players, some people like this and some people like that, and before all that comes the bankroll, can we participate at all?! Is the promotion aiming for high rollers or we ordinary players can take some prizes as well!? Do we need some higher deposit and some crazy wagering requirements to participate? I speak this from my own experience after participating in many, many promotions/competitions/races/etc! I play slots with lower and higher RTP! And from my experience, I know both can have really long losing streaks, and both can give you nice wins, but only if you are lucky! You can think that with higher RTP you have more chances, but if it's not your night it's just not!
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I think RTP is the most important factor to the gamblers. The good RTP a gambling site, the more interesting the gambling site is. But many a users came to gamble on the gambling site by being influenced by seeing promotional offer. So, promotional offer plays a vital role too.
You are right any casino that does not focus on their customer's satisfaction will never gain a reputation as the way you treat your clients determine how reputable your site is, and this is the aspect most casino which is after a large community get it wrong once their have some level of users their neglect the welfare of the old users and their run after new users with various attractive welcome bonus and campaign that require large funds and this funds can be channeled to the right direction that can help improve the total operation of the casino.
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I think those are two different things that are not connected to each other. Whatever RTP a particular game has, it works against you in long term. Even if the RTP is 99%, this 1 percent you will lose. Bonuses give you the chance to cover all your losses with multipliers, mini jackpots, etc.
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April 21, 2022, 07:40:39 PM |
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I think those are two different things that are not connected to each other. Whatever RTP a particular game has, it works against you in long term. Even if the RTP is 99%, this 1 percent you will lose. Bonuses give you the chance to cover all your losses with multipliers, mini jackpots, etc.
Why RTP goes against the gambler in a particular game for the long term. I think RTP does not go against the gambler at any time. So, the idea of me and you are totally different. In this case would you like to tell the details of being against of RTP, so that I can compare my thinking and thinking of you.
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But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.
I think that only a professional gambler with a huge quantity of games can understand difference between 94 and 95 percent RTP. For gambler is better high RTP and promotion the same time, of course, and if promotion are the same, i will choose the casino with the highest RTP, but it willn`t be the main reason of the choice for me. There are a lot of factors not only on RTP and promotion that will want you to stay and be part of a casino's features like responsiveness to complaints and fairness of the game, RTP and promotions are good between the two RTP are far better because it will motivate gamblers to play deposit more and play and it's a win-win for both parties. Of course it is so and the main reason to choose casino for me not the promotion or high RTP. But when i made a list of casinos that are good for me with the main requirements - i begin compare their opportunities. And here i choose options that can increase my profit - the promotions and high RTP are in this list. I think that knowing the RTP from a casino is usually difficult and takes time and by the time a player finds out, he may already like the games and has gotten used to the style and dynamics of the site. Promotions however and one-off bonuses are quite efficient at giving that initial push to the player to enter and try the site. So despite many people actually liking RTP, they end up following promotions.
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April 21, 2022, 11:26:40 PM |
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But there may be some gamblers who are looking for both, RTP and promotion but they are not active gamblers because by getting a good promotion and being supported by a gambling game that has a high RTP, maybe it can provide a meaningful win for them. I also agree that it's up to us to treat the gambling itself and I think if we don't want to see a lot of losses, we need to be able to figure out what to do during gambling. No matter if it is an RTP or a promotion, gambling still has two options, win and lose.
I think that only a professional gambler with a huge quantity of games can understand difference between 94 and 95 percent RTP. For gambler is better high RTP and promotion the same time, of course, and if promotion are the same, i will choose the casino with the highest RTP, but it willn`t be the main reason of the choice for me. There are a lot of factors not only on RTP and promotion that will want you to stay and be part of a casino's features like responsiveness to complaints and fairness of the game, RTP and promotions are good between the two RTP are far better because it will motivate gamblers to play deposit more and play and it's a win-win for both parties. Sometimes this one is one of important factor we need to consider because it also hard to sleep with at ease if we got some huge problem and the representative is not active enough to solve our issues so gamblers should also look on this before selecting a casino to play. But since this one is not included on the choices given by OP I guess we must choose what is more better option to us and its really interesting to read people answer to this discussion. This is the beauty on having this forum on which we could really able to read up people real time experiences and feedbacks on which we could really take a look upon. Speaking about RTP then whether its high or low it would really be having significant effects specially on longer runs.You would able to feel out the effect. Some do prefer low ones rather than on high but in overall they are all just the same on general sense imho.
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April 22, 2022, 01:50:24 AM |
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Consequently, do you think there should be a balance between RTP and promotions? because I know that the impact of a high RTP is undoubtedly a loss of promotion quality, but the casino would be taking more stability, and in part the casino must do everything possible so that it does not fall in profits or in maintenance, but a casino lives off its customers, which makes it a faithful servant for them, so that every customer feels that they are better than at home.
They should be separated I think. One is taking into account the long term for the casino, while the other is trying to increase the customers in the short term for the casino, both have their own disadvantages and advantages but most importantly, having the both of them be balanced and proper does not in any way affect the other. Having an increase in promotions doesn't necessarily damage the RTP, nor does having a fair RTP damage the marketing capabilities of a casino. Sure in the short term there may be an imbalance with the promotions having higher notice, especially for new casinos since they're trying to accept new users, but in the long term? They should be completely separated from each other.
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April 22, 2022, 02:56:20 AM |
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I have a funny experiences in slots, when I played on low/normal RTP games sometimes I win bigger by luckily hit the high multipliers. But when I played on high RTP games, I didn't even hit the high multipliers and most of the cases I lose more than I win. But in some cases, the bonus still save me a bit due to high wagering. I'm not really looking games with high RTP, I'm more looking which games I usually have a luck.
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April 22, 2022, 03:55:45 AM |
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I doubt a serious gambler would care about the promotions and other rewards. Those are peanuts for serious gamblers. Those will only attract low quality users. The RTP factor is much more important for them. They would all prefer to play on casinos with games that have high RTP because in the long run it is the RTP factor that determines how fast they will go bankrupt. On other hand, those who seldom gambles wouldn't care much because the RTP factor doesn't affect them much. They would prefer promotions and other rewaeds.
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April 22, 2022, 04:35:59 AM |
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I doubt a serious gambler would care about the promotions and other rewards. Those are peanuts for serious gamblers. Those will only attract low quality users. The RTP factor is much more important for them. They would all prefer to play on casinos with games that have high RTP because in the long run it is the RTP factor that determines how fast they will go bankrupt. On other hand, those who seldom gambles wouldn't care much because the RTP factor doesn't affect them much. They would prefer promotions and other rewaeds.
Yeah for serious gambler mate,But we knew here in forum ? there are small margin that in this level instead majority of gamblers here are small bettors in which seeking for those promotions and freebies so this is the main target/objective of this topic , to understand what is the sympathy of this forum and maybe for the incoming Gambling owner to understand and take as priority in targeting audience and players.
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