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April 18, 2022, 10:31:54 AM
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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.


What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

this goes to what territory ?is this in Europe ? or somewhere online? because I don't think it is applicable in our country as we are having a very weak Laws towards gambling as our government only seeking for taxation and for their collection caring nothing about gamblers all the way.

but this most to be? if the parents will help looking about their children not to brag in any sort of gambling activities .

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April 18, 2022, 10:48:29 AM
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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.


What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

this goes to what territory ?is this in Europe ?

If you opened the article and read at least an part of text, you would know that it is about England.

or somewhere online?

Really? Internet law already created? or maybe also the courts and the police?

because I don't think it is applicable in our country as we are having a very weak Laws towards gambling as our government only seeking for taxation and for their collection caring nothing about gamblers all the way.

but this most to be? if the parents will help looking about their children not to brag in any sort of gambling activities .

This article only ban the employment of celebrities and sport stars in gambling advertising.


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April 18, 2022, 11:10:33 AM
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So eventually they'll ban gambling? Is that what you are trying to imply?

IMO, the government just doesn't want to promote gambling so people will not easily get attracted, the thing is, those who are in the low earners' bracket are usually the ones who gamble more and some of them are irresponsible and cause life destruction, in the end, it cannot be blamed on gambling sites but government have their own rules in minimizing the problem.
I don't the government is trying to ban gambling but they are  trying to prevent the influence from the use of football celebrities to attract children and youth in getting into gambling. The aim of this is to reduce gambling addicted that had been so rampard on upcoming youths. This law enforcement will help to reduce the effects of gambling ads, promotion of gambling platforms on children and youths using their favorite stars and legends.
Have rule with several countries not allowed for advertising gambling platform and they have been restrict as not allowed content for publishing and advertising to public. Majority with moslem country not allowed with gambling advertising and this effective with children can't play gambling and do not know what is gambling platform.  But when pass adult they have choose for active or not on gambling platform depending with their skill understand or not with gambling games play.
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April 18, 2022, 02:21:09 PM
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I believe not. Because they do have a point. There was also the same kind of prohibition in how to advertise cigarette brands which was very effective in lowering smoking rates in young people.

Perhaps you have a point there. By banning smoking advertisements the tobacco industry did in fact get hit by a large toll that they were not expecting and the young people did start smoking less. But that might just be a subjective view of the banning ads sitation, which might not be applicable to the gambling world. Gambling, while harmful to your mental health and wallet, might not be seen as great of a danger to merit a full advertising ban.


I don't know where you're from, because as I know it, gambling ads are freely shown during football games, and other sporting events in the United Kingdom. That's why they don't want celebrities and sports stars in advertisements connected to casinos and gambling.

I believe gambling ads are even banned entirely in some countries.


As far as I know, the number of countries where advertising gambling is completely prohibited is quite long.
I think the restrictions that are being introduced in England are just a step towards getting Britain on this list as well. I think that the government of UK, due to the fact that the gambling industry there is huge, wants to introduce such restrictions gradually so as not to provoke too much protests from bookmakers.

So eventually they'll ban gambling? Is that what you are trying to imply?

IMO, the government just doesn't want to promote gambling so people will not easily get attracted, the thing is, those who are in the low earners' bracket are usually the ones who gamble more and some of them are irresponsible and cause life destruction, in the end, it cannot be blamed on gambling sites but government have their own rules in minimizing the problem.

I did not say that the government wants to ban gambling, but that the restrictions it introduces, i.e. in this case banning celebrities and sports stars for advertising, are a step towards banning gambling advertising.
Gambling is too profitable for the state budget to be completely banned.

You guys don't really understand that it is not really about "banning", it never was. It is all about control. The government wants to have as much control as they can, especially over things which they consider to be harmful to a certain group of people, for example, in this case, children.

Putting such arbitrary restrictions over online casino gambling advertisments is just one way to have more freedom over what they control while making it seem like they are putting down iron-clad rules with boundaries.

I doubt they want to protect children from gambling addiction even though they make it seem that way...

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April 18, 2022, 03:03:35 PM
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So eventually they'll ban gambling? Is that what you are trying to imply?

IMO, the government just doesn't want to promote gambling so people will not easily get attracted, the thing is, those who are in the low earners' bracket are usually the ones who gamble more and some of them are irresponsible and cause life destruction, in the end, it cannot be blamed on gambling sites but government have their own rules in minimizing the problem.
I don't the government is trying to ban gambling but they are  trying to prevent the influence from the use of football celebrities to attract children and youth in getting into gambling. The aim of this is to reduce gambling addicted that had been so rampard on upcoming youths. This law enforcement will help to reduce the effects of gambling ads, promotion of gambling platforms on children and youths using their favorite stars and legends.
Have rule with several countries not allowed for advertising gambling platform and they have been restrict as not allowed content for publishing and advertising to public. Majority with moslem country not allowed with gambling advertising and this effective with children can't play gambling and do not know what is gambling platform.  But when pass adult they have choose for active or not on gambling platform depending with their skill understand or not with gambling games play.
Each country does really differ on various ways whether it would be totally depending on governance or would be totally in relation or related with Religion thats why people neither could engage with

gambling or not and its indeed depending on several factors.If this one would be global then this would really be hindering celebs on attaching themselves on gambling or even on other stars.
This is some really a loss of income or extra money that they could really get but for on casino part then this do cut off on the chances on having more exposure because of this prohibition.

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April 18, 2022, 04:01:04 PM
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This is even a fair rule if implemented properly because Legit casinos will follow this  rules but what about those fakers and scammers? surely they will keep using artist and celebrities behind their back just to lure Players.
not all gambling sites are scams that use artists or celebrities, many are legit that use artists for marketing such as stake

Artists and celebrities are public figures who certainly have underage fans, the thing to worry about is that minors who are fans of the artist will follow the artist's habit (gambling) if the gambling site uses artists as endorsers

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This is even a fair rule if implemented properly because Legit casinos will follow this  rules but what about those fakers and scammers? surely they will keep using artist and celebrities behind their back just to lure Players.
not all gambling sites are scams that use artists or celebrities, many are legit that use artists for marketing such as stake

Artists and celebrities are public figures who certainly have underage fans, the thing to worry about is that minors who are fans of the artist will follow the artist's habit (gambling) if the gambling site uses artists as endorsers

You misunderstood his message. I think he is telling about scam casino that uses celebrities illegally like using the photos of them  without the consent of the celebrity.

This is very common especially in local forums where users doesn't even bother to google the information they get from the casinos. People will fall for this type of advertisement particularly those who are not really into crypto for they are not savvy enough. But this is different because obviously scam casinos will do sketchy ways, the ban is for the casinos that are registered and licensed.


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April 18, 2022, 05:19:22 PM
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This is even a fair rule if implemented properly because Legit casinos will follow this  rules but what about those fakers and scammers? surely they will keep using artist and celebrities behind their back just to lure Players.
not all gambling sites are scams that use artists or celebrities, many are legit that use artists for marketing such as stake

Artists and celebrities are public figures who certainly have underage fans, the thing to worry about is that minors who are fans of the artist will follow the artist's habit (gambling) if the gambling site uses artists as endorsers

You misunderstood his message. I think he is telling about scam casino that uses celebrities illegally like using the photos of them  without the consent of the celebrity.

This is very common especially in local forums where users doesn't even bother to google the information they get from the casinos. People will fall for this type of advertisement particularly those who are not really into crypto for they are not savvy enough. But this is different because obviously scam casinos will do sketchy ways, the ban is for the casinos that are registered and licensed.

If you dont make out some research then most likely you would really ending up on being scammed because  scammers would really be finding ways just for people to make out some deposits but once you
do already have some experience then you would really be able to be aware on next time.So this one actually works for noobs or first timers.
On everything then it is really needing up some verification or some search before you do make out some further step.

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April 18, 2022, 05:48:56 PM
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If you dont make out some research then most likely you would really ending up on being scammed because  scammers would really be finding ways just for people to make out some deposits but once you
do already have some experience then you would really be able to be aware on next time.So this one actually works for noobs or first timers.
On everything then it is really needing up some verification or some search before you do make out some further step.

Precisely experienced gamblers will not just deposit without doing further research, though it will work with newbies and those who are greed who don't do any research but just simply jumped in with the influence of their favorite artist, unknowingly know that the image or anything that related to the person is simply being edited and use for scamming.

It's the gambler's obligation to make a thorough investigation before sending their money to any gambling sites. In some cases, even known businesses are also being used by scammers using almost duplicate images and links to sucked players' money.

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April 18, 2022, 06:04:26 PM
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In my opinion, limiting the advertising of gambling that targets children is a very good decision.
However, I am very curious to see how well-known athletes will be distinguished from those less known who will be able to take part in such advertisements. Will they judge it by the number of followers on Twitter or Instagram?

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April 18, 2022, 07:13:15 PM
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Children shouldn't be gambling anyways no matter who appears in the advertisements. If they do, the question to why that is happening should be directed to their parents and guardians. Fiat casinos don't allow anyone to register and gamble unless they go through KYC verification. Crypto platforms are different, but again, it's the parent's responsibility to know what their children are up to.

This only affects the UK market and unless similar rules get implemented elsewhere, celebrities will continue to promote casinos and sportsbooks outside of UK's borders.

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April 18, 2022, 07:33:47 PM
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Children shouldn't be gambling anyways no matter who appears in the advertisements. If they do, the question to why that is happening should be directed to their parents and guardians. Fiat casinos don't allow anyone to register and gamble unless they go through KYC verification. Crypto platforms are different, but again, it's the parent's responsibility to know what their children are up to.

This only affects the UK market and unless similar rules get implemented elsewhere, celebrities will continue to promote casinos and sportsbooks outside of UK's borders.

Agree that the primary responsibility lies with the parents hands, but the adverts in which children's idols advertise gambling do not help them at all. This restriction will surely make the parents' task easier.

As for advertising gambling in other countries, as far as I know, it is totally banned in many, and it looks like the UK is going the same way.

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April 18, 2022, 07:48:43 PM
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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
need more security to be able to detect whether the player is over 18 years old or not and KYC alone is not enough because the child may use someone else's identity to be accepted as playing on the gambling site. but as far as I know, until now the most effective way (to be able to know the age of a player accurately) has yet to be found.
Did the one that invent that phrase realize that it can be easily bypassed by anyone else? Did they think that people are too honest to not proceed if they are below 18 years old but adding a KYC can make it more effective.

I don't think a child will have the knowledge to use someone else I.D or pass the KYC process because there are forms that needs to be filled up and they are sometimes hard. Even me that I am already an adult is having hard time dealing with it, how much if they are just a child? And lastly KYC nowadays needs a live selfie so tell me how can someone bypass it? Unfortunately there are still crypto casinos that don't deal with KYC, so underage people can still gamble with them.
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April 18, 2022, 07:56:54 PM
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Children shouldn't be gambling anyways no matter who appears in the advertisements. If they do, the question to why that is happening should be directed to their parents and guardians. Fiat casinos don't allow anyone to register and gamble unless they go through KYC verification. Crypto platforms are different, but again, it's the parent's responsibility to know what their children are up to.

This only affects the UK market and unless similar rules get implemented elsewhere, celebrities will continue to promote casinos and sportsbooks outside of UK's borders.

Agree that the primary responsibility lies with the parents hands, but the adverts in which children's idols advertise gambling do not help them at all. This restriction will surely make the parents' task easier.

As for advertising gambling in other countries, as far as I know, it is totally banned in many, and it looks like the UK is going the same way.

Parents or guardians have limitations when it comes to guiding their children.
As they can't be present 24/7, their children will be exposed to some adverts that they will get interested of.
And if they see their idols promoting a specific site, don't you think, they will be curious also?
But if they have basic principles on the right thing to do, like for example, how they are raised when it comes to the topic of gambling?
They may have the notion no to go to that path, but sometimes curiosity will make them try out new things.
Every parent should instill the importance of being responsible to oneself even if the parents are not looking at them.
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April 18, 2022, 08:01:32 PM
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Children shouldn't be gambling anyways no matter who appears in the advertisements. If they do, the question to why that is happening should be directed to their parents and guardians. Fiat casinos don't allow anyone to register and gamble unless they go through KYC verification. Crypto platforms are different, but again, it's the parent's responsibility to know what their children are up to.

This only affects the UK market and unless similar rules get implemented elsewhere, celebrities will continue to promote casinos and sportsbooks outside of UK's borders.

Agree that the primary responsibility lies with the parents hands, but the adverts in which children's idols advertise gambling do not help them at all. This restriction will surely make the parents' task easier.

As for advertising gambling in other countries, as far as I know, it is totally banned in many, and it looks like the UK is going the same way.

Parents or guardians have limitations when it comes to guiding their children.
As they can't be present 24/7, their children will be exposed to some adverts that they will get interested of.
And if they see their idols promoting a specific site, don't you think, they will be curious also?
But if they have basic principles on the right thing to do, like for example, how they are raised when it comes to the topic of gambling?
They may have the notion no to go to that path, but sometimes curiosity will make them try out new things.
Every parent should instill the importance of being responsible to oneself even if the parents are not looking at them.

I understand that you agree that advertising for gambling should be limited or even banned.
However I don't really understand, how do you think parents would otherwise control their child's access to gambling?
Do you mean that parents should educate their children about gambling themselves before they find out about it from other sources?

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April 18, 2022, 11:53:18 PM
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If you dont make out some research then most likely you would really ending up on being scammed because  scammers would really be finding ways just for people to make out some deposits but once you
do already have some experience then you would really be able to be aware on next time.So this one actually works for noobs or first timers.
On everything then it is really needing up some verification or some search before you do make out some further step.

Precisely experienced gamblers will not just deposit without doing further research, though it will work with newbies and those who are greed who don't do any research but just simply jumped in with the influence of their favorite artist, unknowingly know that the image or anything that related to the person is simply being edited and use for scamming.

It's the gambler's obligation to make a thorough investigation before sending their money to any gambling sites. In some cases, even known businesses are also being used by scammers using almost duplicate images and links to sucked players' money.
In most cases, people do only learn or do make use of their common sense if its already too late which is something that really very common scenario.Its true that there are lots of scams around which we do make
ourselves to be bit more vigilant and be attentive for possible scams and frauds by just making use of our own common sense.IF you do find out somethings off or does really make you hindered
then you could really simply make out some research and doing such thing wont cost you an arm and leg.

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April 19, 2022, 06:18:11 AM
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I understand that you agree that advertising for gambling should be limited or even banned.
However I don't really understand, how do you think parents would otherwise control their child's access to gambling?
I do not agree with TimeTeller opinion, that children should be educated for everything related to their own world and should not be brought up on the topic of gambling, parents should control their children and limit their time playing gadgets because there are many bad effects for children.

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Do you mean that parents should educate their children about gambling themselves before they find out about it from other sources?
Of course not, parents must provide good education not to engage in gambling and betting based games, we must raise children in a good, knowledgeable and intelligent environment.

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April 19, 2022, 06:55:15 AM
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Did the one that invent that phrase realize that it can be easily bypassed by anyone else? Did they think that people are too honest to not proceed if they are below 18 years old but adding a KYC can make it more effective.

I don't think a child will have the knowledge to use someone else I.D or pass the KYC process because there are forms that needs to be filled up and they are sometimes hard. Even me that I am already an adult is having hard time dealing with it, how much if they are just a child? And lastly KYC nowadays needs a live selfie so tell me how can someone bypass it? Unfortunately there are still crypto casinos that don't deal with KYC, so underage people can still gamble with them.
Possibility for children manipulated KYC document with several issues right now many tread actually have service for paying KYC process, easy for children under 18 years old passing KYC by looking other document people and ask them for verifying their account and have to pay several dollar. Every time on other forum have some person selling service help your problem with KYC process but depending how long children have been on gambling platform they will know how to pass KYC on several gambling network.
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April 19, 2022, 06:57:53 AM
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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
need more security to be able to detect whether the player is over 18 years old or not and KYC alone is not enough because the child may use someone else's identity to be accepted as playing on the gambling site. but as far as I know, until now the most effective way (to be able to know the age of a player accurately) has yet to be found.
The most effective way of identity verification is yet to be found, which is true and this lets anyone to be into gambling unlike the age. Every country will have the national ID which can be used for verification with the usage of biometric scanner. Here the data of people need to be shared by the government, then it can be cross checked and only the proper aged person can be allowed.
But the thing is ? would this be abused ? or cheated ? we know how crocks can do anything just to Bypass everything favoring their objectives .
and that is the reason why most gambling sites requiring KYC to at least lessen the abusing , and also this rules will  be implemented because of the time being that the gambling industry are targeting new players and also younger generation.
gamble at your own cost but never allow the young to do the same,
they are vulnerable and they are always the loser.

not all gambling sites are scams that use artists or celebrities, many are legit that use artists for marketing such as stake


You misunderstood his message. I think he is telling about scam casino that uses celebrities illegally like using the photos of them  without the consent of the celebrity.

Yeah there is a  misunderstanding on that part, because as same as i understand the post, it is about those who will use the celebrities without their consent .

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April 19, 2022, 07:03:31 AM
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.

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