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April 09, 2022, 04:05:10 PM
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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.

What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.
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April 09, 2022, 05:53:16 PM
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They will face consequences if they do not abide the law, that is why they follow it. Under 18 children knows things that sometimes even adults doesn't like bypassing such limits on them. A 17 year old is still under 18 and I am sure there are those teens who are knowledgeable enough to overcome this if they were into gambling badly. The Initiative of BGC is good but with flaws in it, I guess they should be more stricter than that and push it even further.
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April 09, 2022, 06:07:45 PM
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they probably won't like it since it would lessen their way of getting exposure. anyway, they really can't do anything other than accept the new rule that has been implemented even if they don't like it.

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References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.
damn, that is probably the majority of popular video games out there. I wonder if this affects streamers that play popular video games and advertise gambling sites.

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April 09, 2022, 06:17:12 PM
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For ads purposes, yes, that's a helpful update. If casinos prohibits the registration of users age of 18 and  below then casino ads should follow the same pattern too. Coz ads plays a role to encourage someone to do this and that as shown on an ad, people's ages in ads plays a role too, as it targets its type of users' ages etc.

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April 09, 2022, 09:33:15 PM
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For ads purposes, yes, that's a helpful update. If casinos prohibits the registration of users age of 18 and  below then casino ads should follow the same pattern too. Coz ads plays a role to encourage someone to do this and that as shown on an ad, people's ages in ads plays a role too, as it targets its type of users' ages etc.

But some casinos don't have KYC or they are just asking if you are 18 years and above, that anyone can falsely bypass the requirement because they can use the ID of his siblings or parents. But in any case, it is true, there are some sports athletes who have huge following from the younger generation like Christiano Ronaldo. And that means, if he will promote gambling site, it means some of his young followers may really try it out. But I believe, this will be in the UK only, because let's give a popular example, Drake, who is endorser of stake. But he is under the US jurisdiction so I don't think he's part of the ban.
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April 09, 2022, 09:51:20 PM
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Since the new prohibition is because of underage it going to have a strong impact and many celebrities will strictly adhere to, the new law to protect underage from gambling addiction this is a strong point that casino both physical of online casinos will have to play along the right part if their want to continue operations.

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April 09, 2022, 09:51:24 PM
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This law only restrict a certain country which is UK, right?
So technically other celebrities are still free to advertise especially the current news about Drake who advertised Stake. The headline should be change and limited only to UK, this can prevent confusion. Though the idea is great, those celebrities has a lot of young supporter and preventing them from advertising gambling can be a big help, if its not allowed they have to obey the law to avoid any problem.

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April 09, 2022, 10:01:34 PM
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It is a much needed one, and I was expecting similar thing in my country. I want the celebrities to take responsibility if a teenager gets into addiction. Myself too an addicted gambler, but my mind fears that for money celebrities just promoting and never mind the common people. The anger increased on watching IPL. You can see more than ten sites being promoted during a match. In specific everything is promoted by the players. Most probably the platforms were associated with rummy. Next thing the ad runs for 15 sec and within that some roaring happens at the end. This has got risk and it could lead to money loss and addiction. Just this roaring isn't enough. Same as promoting the platform they also have the responsibility to give perfect visual content about the risks and the after effects of being unsuccessful.

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April 09, 2022, 10:07:24 PM
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They already prohibit this one as far as I know but many a new rule to make more restriction is a good thing.
Many underaged are exposed already in gambling because of those advertisements, its about time to restrict them and to fully regulate the casinos to strictly implement the restriction. This is a big help and I hope that parents will also supervise their children so they wont fall into any gambling trap, they can't handle the pressure in gambling so its really good if they are not exposed in gambling, they are too young for this.
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April 09, 2022, 10:28:37 PM
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There is no problem for the casinos on this matter, they can just look for another way of advertising. But, this has a big impact on the celebrities and athletes that have huge talent fees when they advertise a casino or have it as their sponsor.
Anyway, if this is just specific to a country, there are other areas where they can still deal with celebrities and athletes to have them pay to advertise a casino.

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April 09, 2022, 10:43:09 PM
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This law only restrict a certain country which is UK, right?
So technically other celebrities are still free to advertise especially the current news about Drake who advertised Stake. The headline should be change and limited only to UK, this can prevent confusion. Though the idea is great, those celebrities has a lot of young supporter and preventing them from advertising gambling can be a big help, if its not allowed they have to obey the law to avoid any problem.

Yes, it is only for UK residents but since this is another law that will help curb gambling among the youth, it can be adopted by other countries if the law is proven to be successful in lowering juvenile gambling.
And yes it is a loss to athletes and celebrities with proven appeal to the youth but all athletes and celebrities have young followers how can they decide if the athletes or celebrities are not appealing to the youth, even a 60 years old chess champion has young followers, they have to set up criteria and lists for references.

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April 09, 2022, 10:47:44 PM
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It all depends the region this law is enforced, maybe in europe which I know they have a strict rules. The problem here is that gambling companies will always shift their adverts more on region this law is not effective. They can decides to use other means to reach out to the youths just like we have signature campaigns on this forum mostly occupied by gambling platforms.  

This law is too strict for gambling platforms cause their main concentration is the use of celebrity to promote and influence the public.

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April 09, 2022, 10:59:01 PM
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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

The news really is a huge step towards regulating and maintaining that the gamblers are above 18. Knowing the fact that advertisements are often played in any media including television and social media, minors would really get into gambling especially once their favorite personalities promoted it. Hence, if it would be prohibited, it will lessen the exposure of minors in gambling, but not to those who really have the capability to gamble regardless if the personality endorses it or not. It's just a matter of adding up some precautions but not really a prevention.

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April 09, 2022, 11:29:11 PM
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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

The news really is a huge step towards regulating and maintaining that the gamblers are above 18. Knowing the fact that advertisements are often played in any media including television and social media, minors would really get into gambling especially once their favorite personalities promoted it. Hence, if it would be prohibited, it will lessen the exposure of minors in gambling, but not to those who really have the capability to gamble regardless if the personality endorses it or not. It's just a matter of adding up some precautions but not really a prevention.

Have they done a study on this and how effective is this, they will have to see the results first before they fully implement this, it can be contested by celebrities because this is a loss of income for them, celebrities or not gambling will have an impact to youth if they do not have programs that will educate youth the harmful effects of gambling early in life, they should sustain it with this kind of educational programs.

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April 09, 2022, 11:42:44 PM
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The new regulation regarding advertising partnering with celebrities or sports stars is actually not a big impact for a casino, a casino can put a board anywhere in the game even in a club shirt because a club is not an individual like a celebrity right? the most impactful in this regard are the stars, we may not be able to imagine the loss they endured. To reduce the reach of gambling for children under 18, we parents should probably not forget that gambling can be do it anywhere and in any method, one day children will grow up and try it more widely.

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Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.
I've never seen such rules and I believe this could be labeled as discrimination against individuals in particular, because it's too vague and abstract to say who is and who isn't influent among children and youth. Regulators can create any excuses to justify a celebrity to join or not join gambling advertisements, what will inevitably lead to corruption in order to make regulators allow someone to participate a propaganda.
As Cristiano Ronaldo was mentioned, I can say he is an individual like any other and he has the right to be hired by any brands and companies, since the businesses are legit.

This regulation is a too dangerous one, because it will affect most popular celebrities negatively, since they have influence among every age groups, so it will be used against them on cases of this kind, highlighting children specifically.

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April 10, 2022, 01:12:04 AM
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Is it just in the UK?

There are plenty of other jurisdictions where this is completely legal, for better or for worse.

But at the end of the day I think banning these sort of influencers from dabbling in gambling ads would be counterproductive - you need to regulate it positively. Just think about the other (often shady) ways that advertisements will soon pop up, for instance youtube influencers getting sponsorship deals & house money to play with.
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April 10, 2022, 02:12:42 AM
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This is not new, even though in this case it is specifically the UK there are laws with at least similar intentions in several countries, there are laws that seek to protect the consumer of misleading offers, that matter is the really relevant one, no the face they put on a particular advertisement.

If you are under 18 years of age, the responsibility should fall on your parents, not on the face of a famous person, whoever it is, it is a bureaucratic law, that say "simply we are here doing something for you... "

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April 10, 2022, 04:21:39 AM
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Did the council do a study on this to back up their claims that celebrities will make young people gamble, how about teaching the parents and setting up centers for the propagation of responsible gambling, the reality is we cannot stop the young people from gambling, they started as gamers and the lure to gamble is always there, this is a prevention that's not worth implementing.
Young people can still gamble even if the faces on the ads are not celebrities, instead, they should be taught about the nature of gambling and how it can harm the mind of young minds.


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April 10, 2022, 09:06:31 AM
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Is it just in the UK?

There are plenty of other jurisdictions where this is completely legal, for better or for worse.

But at the end of the day I think banning these sort of influencers from dabbling in gambling ads would be counterproductive - you need to regulate it positively. Just think about the other (often shady) ways that advertisements will soon pop up, for instance youtube influencers getting sponsorship deals & house money to play with.

Yes, it is in the UK ....

I wonder what will now happen with Watford in the Premier league, because they are sponsored by Stake.com? Does this only apply to individuals and teams... or only individuals?

I can see why they are doing this, but it will not help if they are only doing it in the UK. There are millions of underage kids in the UK that are watching other Sports that are sponsored by casinos and gambling. (UFC / Baseball / Basketball ....etc)  Roll Eyes

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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.



With or without these new rules as long as they are not educating their parents to teach how their children behave towards gambling we will still have a lot of young people gambling, this is not a way to protect children it should be about responsible parenting, the UK is a free commerce country and they deprive some celebrities to make money on a subject that they have no control of.
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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

There's huge part on their marketing side will be affected knowing how huge the hype what celebrities can bring if they promote their casinos to many people, we know how huge the influence of those celebrities so I guess many gambling sites will struggle for this implementation knowing their exposure will not totally widespread fast.


But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

The problem towards this will slowly subside since from implementing this those minors can see less ads and that can turn down their interest especially little by little they can see no ads popping up everywhere.

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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.



With or without these new rules as long as they are not educating their parents to teach how their children behave towards gambling we will still have a lot of young people gambling, this is not a way to protect children it should be about responsible parenting, the UK is a free commerce country and they deprive some celebrities to make money on a subject that they have no control of.

Prohibiting the involvement of underage celebrities in gambling ads will also stop promoting gambling for youth these days. Yes, parents has a huge responsibility but it's a good thing that BGC is initiating this kind of act to at least lessen the number of youth that are attracted to gambling.
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Even without celebrities the advertisement itself can be attractive so that children can get addicted to it but the fact is the target of casinos are not someone who is not having money in their kids so baiscally they don't wants kids but probably late teens already have money and have knowledge about how to bypass that no barrier restriction of I am over 18 warning on any site while they are accessing.

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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.
But what does it mean to have a strong appeal to people below 18 years old? Do they mean that if make a survey or a pool that range group is the one in which that sport star or celebrity is the most popular? And if not then how are they going to define what it means to have  a strong appeal to the young?

Basically unless that is very well-defined and the government creates a list of people which should not be hired by casinos or give some definitive guidelines then I do not see how casinos can follow this new law and not make a mistake along the way.

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Should I appreciate this? I guess yes. I have seen one of my local celebrities to get involved with gambling site. They must know that they have an influence; many used the platform. Later, they turned out scammer but selectively.
Just sharing because both issue are same. Gambling platform used to take this advantage. Now that they can't have celebs in the promo, I believe they will find the alternative. Though this ban doesn’t make much sense (18s will surely find their way LOL), it's great that it's something to prevent the 18s. I appreciate it.

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Should I appreciate this? I guess yes. I have seen one of my local celebrities to get involved with gambling site. They must know that they have an influence; many used the platform. Later, they turned out scammer but selectively.
Just sharing because both issue are same. Gambling platform used to take this advantage. Now that they can't have celebs in the promo, I believe they will find the alternative. Though this ban doesn’t make much sense (18s will surely find their way LOL), it's great that it's something to prevent the 18s. I appreciate it.
Once a teenager is used to gambling and experience winning some money, somehow he'll find a way to continue it. Celebrities doesn't think any after effects of the young generation. Some turn to be very addictive at the very young age and ruins his/her entire life. The decision from the government is a much needed one. Also the celebrities get good pay from these sites, which comes out of people who spend with hope on seeing the popular ones advertising the site.
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Should I appreciate this? I guess yes. I have seen one of my local celebrities to get involved with gambling site. They must know that they have an influence; many used the platform. Later, they turned out scammer but selectively.
Just sharing because both issue are same. Gambling platform used to take this advantage. Now that they can't have celebs in the promo, I believe they will find the alternative. Though this ban doesn’t make much sense (18s will surely find their way LOL), it's great that it's something to prevent the 18s. I appreciate it.
Once a teenager is used to gambling and experience winning some money, somehow he'll find a way to continue it. Celebrities doesn't think any after effects of the young generation. Some turn to be very addictive at the very young age and ruins his/her entire life. The decision from the government is a much needed one. Also the celebrities get good pay from these sites, which comes out of people who spend with hope on seeing the popular ones advertising the site.

if nothing else, this move may not encourage young individuals to gamble. because the government may have a point, if you are looking up to this top athlete and suddenly he's promoting a casino or gambling site, you may really think twice of checking the site also. even if you are not a previous gambler. curiosity is one of the factors why some people are going into gambling. and now, if they see their idol promoting the site, they may want to try that out as well. so yeah, this govt move may somehow hinder potential gamblers in the making.

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Once a teenager is used to gambling and experience winning some money, somehow he'll find a way to continue it. Celebrities doesn't think any after effects of the young generation. Some turn to be very addictive at the very young age and ruins his/her entire life. The decision from the government is a much needed one. Also the celebrities get good pay from these sites, which comes out of people who spend with hope on seeing the popular ones advertising the site.
That's for sure. When I was on my teenager days, it's really one of the most hype part of my life. Whenever I'm winning as I gamble, no one was able to stop me.
There's the good side of it in general and it's just another way to reduce the possible influence to the young ones. I don't have anything against with it if they find it effective and there's an important reason on why they should do that.
We saw the effects of gambling when one is addicted on it and at least they're doing something to prevent it to happen to the others mostly to the younger people.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

Well, they will have to adapt, period. I am not a big fan of regulations and prohibitions, but as far as the gambling industry is concerned, I do not trust that without strict regulations they would have a positive impact on society.

If the obligation to implement responsible gambling measures and measures like this one to limit the exposure of advertising to minors has to come from the public authorities, they are welcome.

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Crypto Gambling industry is just on the early stage for using stars in there promotion. Actually only Drake is the only known star that officially partner with crypto casino. I believe this topic should be focus more on Crypto Casino rather than the fiat Casino to simplify the discussion and avoid overextension on the discussion. The new regulation is quite a bit absurd because how can you determine the extent of the famous level of star to the children if there is no official way to measure it.

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This is a tough rule to adhere to since it's very easy for children under 18 to view these advertisements in various ways(TV, Mobile, Computer etc). I understand the reasoning behind this rule, but I think that most sites will just ignore it.

These kind of regulations are very difficult to enforce in modern society unless a country is being ruled by a dictator which are few and far in between.

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I admi,t this is a very interesting and important topic for us to discuss.

I don't know if it's a good idea for the government or for The Betting and Gaming Council to intervene in certain gambling topics.
This could have a big impact on gambling companies, both crypto and fiat.

I believe, using people under the age of 18 may even be valid (maybe), but depending on the context and age of the teenager.
I don't see any reason to ban the use in relation to celebrities or sports stars, I can't see any connection with it, I believe that this could only affect the gambling and advertising market


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Using celebrities and sports stars is only one of the many promotional strategies employed by the gambling industry, so it won't have much an impact on the gambling industry, but could it be that this step will reduce the number of young people under 18 from gambling? maybe this step is not effective, because many times those who gambled when they were so young actually knew about gambling from the closest people, not online media.

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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?



That is really bad news for the gambling industry in UK. So far it seems that UK is the first major country to start limiting the advertising of bookmakers and casinos. Do we know if there are others? I really hope that other countries will not follow suit. Just looking at crypto.com and other major companies who engaged multiple celebrities over the last 12 month, this would make their advertising options very limited. I understand that we need to protect minors from the harm of unsupervised gambling - it needs to be clear that the celebrities didn't get so rich through gambling and betting but rather through their main jobs in the film/music/sport industry. For me bans and limitations are most of the times a bad thing and will have a negative impact on the crypto world. Using high profile individuals and celebrities for advertising has been done for a long period of time, and the casinos and bookmakers should have checks in place like KYC to make sure that no minors can play on there site. A ban seems to harsh in my opinion.
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This has been done before , because we knew how attractive and believable those Idols for the children specially teens so if the sports Idol promote something like gambling then they should be ready to enter and play.
I hate this idea from the beginning because I as a Man now? use to follow my elder brother and Uncles passion to gamble and this is how i enter gambling at the young age so why risk our youngster ?
Good Job from the Ruling committee and hope this will take effect for long period of time.

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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

For new casinos, it will have a big impact they must find a way to promote their casinos

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In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.
Thye have no choice but to follow the new regulation if they have a good advertising manager they can find and explore ways to advertise following the new rules and at the same time advertise effectively.

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But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.
That is why they implemented these new rules, children nowadays love to explore new things and new ways to play, and bet with the help of the internet, everything is one click away.

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The prohibition will certainly affect the gambling industry, where gambling business owners will look for other ways to continue promoting their gambling business. But I'm not sure if it can control children under 18 years old to see other gambling ads that don't use celebrities because, with the current ease of access, there is a possibility that gambling ads will leak and can be watched by children under 18 years old.

It requires the efforts of all parties to really control advertising, whether they are still using celebrities or those who have stopped using celebrities. The most important thing is how we can all control children under 18 by watching what they like. Maybe it's not just gambling but it's also about pornography because

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What kind of nonsense is that. So, the celebrities and sports "stars" can run around advertising gambling on their shirts, yet they "must not appear in the adverts"? But celebrities who play for teams sponsored by the bookmakers can appear in adverts for a video game, for example.
Well, that makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

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But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad.
It is not even possible that the ban only applies in certain regions. Also, ad bans should be more specific. Currently we are not only talking tv commercials, advertisements with celebrity models in various forms spread on the internet that are not limited. The problem is that sites with worldwide ads can't detect and limit visitors based on age. Ad providers like google display random banner ads every session which in turn it will be seen by all visitors.

To be honest, it's more annoying that gambling and adult advertisements appear on game applications where users are actually minors.

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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?
Since these celebrities are very popular not just to the adults but also popular on teenagers, probably the the effect of the new rule for gambling advertisement is that there will be less traffic of new users to their site, it lessens new users also since the effectiveness of the advertisement are less. We all know that celebrities has a big impact to an ad.


But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad.
What are you referring to this statement? Doesn't seem easy to do what? The implementation of the rule?

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Even if we have activated the feature to filter ads, there will still be ads about gambling and adults later. Maybe today's ad won't show up, but who can guarantee it won't last forever? Sites with adverts like that can easily get out on our phones and it's the job of google to do the filtering of those ads but it won't be easy. If that still happens, maybe the only thing they can do is reject the ads and not click anything, but not many of them will do that since a few of them will be curious and will click to visit the site.



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I confess that I don't understand how this law could make people under 18 stay away from casinos? in my opinion what governments need to do is create laws that are beneficial to both casinos and casino players. But what happens is that governments want tough measures against casinos because they think that this way they will make people not use casinos. but the same governments do not take harsh measures against breweries, even though they know that alcohol kills many people, disgraces many people and there are celebrities who advertise for beer or alcohol companies in general and governments turn a blind eye to this

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this type of regulation has already been implemented also in my country (Italy - EU) where they explicitly banned advertising on television or in public places. Of course you cannot ask celebrities to promote your gambling activities...

In the end, I am not surprised that there are these regulations.
The industry is unable to regulate itself.
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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.

What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

It's very good that regulators have finally started to protect children from casino advertisements. I'm surprised it happened so late, but it's good that someone finally changed it. Children do not realize how dangerous gambling can be and are therefore easy targets for casinos. Fortunately, things should be different now.

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April 11, 2022, 06:09:55 PM
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this type of regulation has already been implemented also in my country (Italy - EU) where they explicitly banned advertising on television or in public places. Of course you cannot ask celebrities to promote your gambling activities...

In the end, I am not surprised that there are these regulations.
The industry is unable to regulate itself.
There must be activities imposed on a generic level without obviously penalizing the commercial aspect of these activities.
Seriously, in the EU this regulation has already occurred!!?

Could you explain and share what was the reaction/response from the media, companies and other sectors related to this branch? Were they reluctant? Or they accepted without any problem!!?

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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60994728

What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

It seems to me this was a small step towards banning gambling adverts in the biggest sports in the UK, I saw an article recently that suggested something like 60%+ of Premier League clubs have a crypto casino partner and they will be contributing huge amounts towards these clubs. This new law gives them a little bit of a warning and that the government might take firmer action at a higher level soon. If you think that alcohol and smoking related products are banned from advertising in this sector, it seems inevitable that gambling sites will eventually be banned too. It's more surprising that it has taken so long for action but then again, these companies pour in such big amounts it'll be a big financial upset - I'm not sure the public will care too much if these overpaid players have to take a smaller salary.

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April 11, 2022, 06:28:56 PM
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But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

In as much as I commend BGC for coming up with this initiative, I still think this won't make a lot of difference, (this is if it even makes any difference) kids or rather, under age children who want to gamble will still gamble, it doesn't matter the kind of persons gambling sites use for their advertisements.

I think they should make a stricter rule, and this can be for example, in the offline gambling shop, any child suspected to be under age should be asked to submit their ID for verification of age, and in the online gambling sites, I believe kyc is already a must for most gambling sites, other gambling sites that have not implemented kyc can be asked to do so.
This is how I think under age gambling can be brought to its barest minimum if not totally eradicated.

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Quoted from bbc.com news

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60994728

What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

It seems to me this was a small step towards banning gambling adverts in the biggest sports in the UK, I saw an article recently that suggested something like 60%+ of Premier League clubs have a crypto casino partner and they will be contributing huge amounts towards these clubs. This new law gives them a little bit of a warning and that the government might take firmer action at a higher level soon. If you think that alcohol and smoking related products are banned from advertising in this sector, it seems inevitable that gambling sites will eventually be banned too. It's more surprising that it has taken so long for action but then again, these companies pour in such big amounts it'll be a big financial upset - I'm not sure the public will care too much if these overpaid players have to take a smaller salary.
In our country no sportsman or celebrity would dare to promote gambling. Since its a serious issue in our community.
The sportsman and celebrates are role model and young and adult look upto them for the inspiration and not to get into the activities which might make them bankrupt

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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?
For sure it would make out some significant effect specially into those companies who are making use of celebs for their marketing.Now that it would be imposed on having some restriction then there's

nothing they could  do but to abide with the law or else then that might result into closure of their business and of course they dont really like for it to happen thats why they dont have any choice
but to obey on whats been restricted.

We cant say it would be a total solution of youth gambling addiction problem but at least it does really lessen out exposure and influence specially
if they would able to see it from those stars.

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April 11, 2022, 07:41:56 PM
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It seems to me this was a small step towards banning gambling adverts in the biggest sports in the UK, I saw an article recently that suggested something like 60%+ of Premier League clubs have a crypto casino partner and they will be contributing huge amounts towards these clubs. This new law gives them a little bit of a warning and that the government might take firmer action at a higher level soon. If you think that alcohol and smoking related products are banned from advertising in this sector, it seems inevitable that gambling sites will eventually be banned too. It's more surprising that it has taken so long for action but then again, these companies pour in such big amounts it'll be a big financial upset - I'm not sure the public will care too much if these overpaid players have to take a smaller salary.
I am not familiar with other country law but in our country - where the society is multicultural and people of different ethnicities live together.
Gambling is a very very serious threat. For them their child going into gambling is heart breaking as well. So the personalist who people idealize should be careful while promoting a controversial stuff.

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this type of regulation has already been implemented also in my country (Italy - EU) where they explicitly banned advertising on television or in public places. Of course you cannot ask celebrities to promote your gambling activities...

In the end, I am not surprised that there are these regulations.
The industry is unable to regulate itself.
There must be activities imposed on a generic level without obviously penalizing the commercial aspect of these activities.
Seriously, in the EU this regulation has already occurred!!?

Could you explain and share what was the reaction/response from the media, companies and other sectors related to this branch? Were they reluctant? Or they accepted without any problem!!?


Gambling is a very srious issue in many of the communities. I am not sure how would the Eurpoean parent react if they get to know their son or daughter gambles.
In our community, the child would see serious consequences if the parent would discover he is gambler.

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April 11, 2022, 09:00:55 PM
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Did the council do a study on this to back up their claims that celebrities will make young people gamble, how about teaching the parents and setting up centers for the propagation of responsible gambling, the reality is we cannot stop the young people from gambling, they started as gamers and the lure to gamble is always there, this is a prevention that's not worth implementing.
Young people can still gamble even if the faces on the ads are not celebrities, instead, they should be taught about the nature of gambling and how it can harm the mind of young minds.
I believe they are only making an excuse to stop the celebrities on promoting a gambling site. The problem is not about the celebrity but it was the ads, if it's uncontrolled it will show up anywhere where kids can easily see it but I like your idea. Indeed it should also start with the parent to teach their children about the hazards of gambling.

They should teach them that gambling is not a thing for kids but when they are on the right/legal, that's the only time that they can get involved with this activity. Video gaming and gambling are both different things although video gaming can cause addiction but that doesn't always lead to gambling unless if this game has some gambling element.

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April 11, 2022, 09:11:41 PM
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I am not familiar with other country law but in our country - where the society is multicultural and people of different ethnicities live together.
Gambling is a very very serious threat. For them their child going into gambling is heart breaking as well. So the personalist who people idealize should be careful while promoting a controversial stuff.
There are some religions in my country that sees gambling as a big threat as well but as a whole, the government still see this as legal as long as they regulate it and as per our President, we need the money from the tax and the profit that we are getting from gambling everyday is a big help to raise funds. Celebrities really have a huge number of fans and if they have minors, that is a big concern so regulating them is a good decision for a concerned government, I wish to see more countries to implement the same banned on celebrities from endorsing casinos.
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Celebrities and sportsman are the role models. People look up to them to promote a productive image of the culture. IF they would endorse it, they might be one of the reasons to bring someone on the verge of financial trouble.
In my opinion, such a change in the law should be introduced a long time ago. I just wonder how Stake.com will react after they signed with Drake.

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April 11, 2022, 09:43:30 PM
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Gambling is a very srious issue in many of the communities. I am not sure how would the Eurpoean parent react if they get to know their son or daughter gambles.
In our community, the child would see serious consequences if the parent would discover he is gambler.
Yes, I also agree with you, if the player has no control over gambling, I have no doubt that he could have serious problems with it.

I also believe, maybe, regulatory agent could "intervene" in these types of events, not so rigorously, but maybe create measures against gambling addiction or something like that!!

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It looks like the streaming of fake casino games will end.
Casinos created fake accounts for streamers who played at the casino and won huge amounts of money. Of course, these were fake winnings, but the viewer did not know this. Thought it was a real win. Unfortunately, most of them were kids who, seeing how easy it was to win money, most often deposited their parents money and lose everything immediately. Fortunately, it will end now.
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It looks like the streaming of fake casino games will end.
Casinos created fake accounts for streamers who played at the casino and won huge amounts of money. Of course, these were fake winnings, but the viewer did not know this. Thought it was a real win. Unfortunately, most of them were kids who, seeing how easy it was to win money, most often deposited their parents money and lose everything immediately. Fortunately, it will end now.

if people will continue to report those fake streamers, YT and other streaming services will take down those videos. because if no one is reporting, definitely, there will always be something like this in circulation. but don't get too confident that they will be out of the market, because for sure, there will always be a new casino willing to pay an influencer to advertise their site showing fake winnings and all.
but on the note about ban on known personalities, or sports athletes, i have to agree with this. because some of these personalities have young followers. and they will see them as examples they want to imitate with.

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April 11, 2022, 11:36:06 PM
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It looks like the streaming of fake casino games will end.
Casinos created fake accounts for streamers who played at the casino and won huge amounts of money. Of course, these were fake winnings, but the viewer did not know this. Thought it was a real win. Unfortunately, most of them were kids who, seeing how easy it was to win money, most often deposited their parents money and lose everything immediately. Fortunately, it will end now.

if people will continue to report those fake streamers, YT and other streaming services will take down those videos. because if no one is reporting, definitely, there will always be something like this in circulation. but don't get too confident that they will be out of the market, because for sure, there will always be a new casino willing to pay an influencer to advertise their site showing fake winnings and all.
but on the note about ban on known personalities, or sports athletes, i have to agree with this. because some of these personalities have young followers. and they will see them as examples they want to imitate with.
They should really get rid of that first before banning out celebs who are promoting or with have partnerships with gambling companies because it  would really be totally useless if they would still let
those things running or exposed yet considering that we are on a high tech era which basically means that kids or youth could still make able to see these things where gambling videos or streams are
almost everywhere so its not totally the solution for this problem but if they do really strictly impose such laws then companies would be having no choice but to deal with it.

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April 11, 2022, 11:40:01 PM
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I don't think they'd have that much of an impact on the casinos, I mean said stars aren't the only celebs out there that you can reach out to advertise from. Sure, probably those banned stars would have a bigger fanbase since they also reach out to younger audiences, but in the first place they aren't even the ones casinos are aiming for. It's just a proper way of trying to attract the audience based on a reasonable pov (due to a problem that can't be fixed for so damn long).

I want to say that it's those celebs/sports stars that have impacted the most, but eh, I don't think losing out on the gambling industry would destroy all they are. I mean casinos wouldn't go to them if they had nothing in the first place.

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April 11, 2022, 11:42:52 PM
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It looks like the streaming of fake casino games will end.
Casinos created fake accounts for streamers who played at the casino and won huge amounts of money. Of course, these were fake winnings, but the viewer did not know this. Thought it was a real win. Unfortunately, most of them were kids who, seeing how easy it was to win money, most often deposited their parents money and lose everything immediately. Fortunately, it will end now.

if people will continue to report those fake streamers, YT and other streaming services will take down those videos. because if no one is reporting, definitely, there will always be something like this in circulation. but don't get too confident that they will be out of the market, because for sure, there will always be a new casino willing to pay an influencer to advertise their site showing fake winnings and all.
but on the note about ban on known personalities, or sports athletes, i have to agree with this. because some of these personalities have young followers. and they will see them as examples they want to imitate with.
They should really get rid of that first before banning out celebs who are promoting or with have partnerships with gambling companies because it  would really be totally useless if they would still let
those things running or exposed yet considering that we are on a high tech era which basically means that kids or youth could still make able to see these things where gambling videos or streams are
almost everywhere so its not totally the solution for this problem but if they do really strictly impose such laws then companies would be having no choice but to deal with it.

But they can totally get rid of this casino since some part of the country are earning benefits thru tax so taking them down will also cost them a lot of money lost as income to their country that's why they just do this to minimize the damage what possibly can bring by those huge promotions made by celebrities. Also for sure they will take an action towards streamers since if they ban celebrities they will also do the same with those influencers who promote casinos.

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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.
This must be one of the greatest News i ever heard happening in gambling world now , because it has been many years that the Youngsters are being targeted and lured by gambling sites since they are the easiest to take part and if become addicted? they will do anything just to find funds to gamble, I really hate this kind of strategy because a father like me has more care if what will be our children to become because of this  gambling site strategies .









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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.

What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.
Children below 18 years old were always forbidden from accessing gambling websites so what does this notice adds ?
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April 12, 2022, 01:01:35 AM
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Another good steps in facing the problem in gambling , because the this issues had been here for long time and with this as support for the goodness of gambling industries .

Not because they are celebrity meaning they can be advertising Gambling and just with that.

Hope that this will express attitude towards the gambling world and will cherish for long time now.

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I am more concern about the implementation of this new rules as this involves Bigger name in the world of gambling and sports so with them being in this case , I am afraid that this will be on the table perfectly , but i love the idea and i love the chances of having this in My country as nowadays? younger and younger becoming gambler and also turns addicted .









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April 12, 2022, 02:03:13 AM
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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?
Well, for gambling companies who are already well-known, the impact would not be that huge because they already established their business and gamblers are already aware of their existence. However for those gambling companies who are just starting and using celebrities to attract the gamblers to play on their platform, its really not a good idea for their business to stop using celebrities to advertise them. But its a new rule so they have no choice but to comply to avoid having problems.

On the other side, we know youth are already expose on using gadgets, because of this the possibility to see ads about gambling are always there. Thats why the guidance of the parents are necessary so even they see these ads, they wont be tempted to try playing.

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I respect that decision and support, of course there is a runway regarding gambling that is regulated. Indeed, it should and condition consumption for those under +18, above that age I think it's legal because it is sufficient from the mindset and all decisions that he makes already understand the rules. and know the sportsbook, gambling, football that he ordered.
There may be an impact for the company, where if this regulation is known, users in the above categories will withdraw but this is not always the case, because the star of the ad does not appear.
I think the company has a marketing strategy that is innovative, inspiring and attracting users/consumers according to the market share in this type of sport, which can boost financially or crypto.

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This doesn't make sense to me.
So the people at this "Advertising Practices Committee" think that when a kid/teenager sees a gambling ad with Christiano Ronaldo(or some movie star),the teenager will be instantly hooked and will try to signup and gamble on that casino.
But when the kid/teenager sees a gambling ad WITHOUT Christiano Ronaldo(or any celebrities at all),the kid would not be interested at all in gambling and just skip.
It seems to me that the creators of this new rule think that kids/teenagers are just dumb retards.
Why do they have to impose such rule?Aren't kids/teenagers forbidden from joining online casinos,since there are KYC procedures and age verification required?


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Maybe the point is that if celebrities advertise something that has to do with gambling, it can attract children/teenagers to try registering and gambling at that casino. Maybe we've seen celebrities that don't advertise clearly but there is a logo that people have seen very often, so when they see that logo, their mind will immediately go to that site. The new rule was made because there have been many complaints from older adults, parents or people in the article, so it is hoped that the new rule can reduce the number of people who play gambling and are addicted to gambling. But this still has to be further researched and in the data to get valid results.



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Children below 18 years old were always forbidden from accessing gambling websites so what does this notice adds ?

Forbidden yes, but they can always have an access If they wanted to. Especially in crypto.
This notice doesn't eliminate the probability for young people to get involved in gambling, this is just a small gesture for these authorities to show to the public that they are doing something that prevents young people to get involved in gambling.
These ads is just a small portion of influence in the world of internet. So, I might say this kind of action doesn't make any difference.

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April 12, 2022, 08:27:35 AM
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Most of the celebrities are known by many people even the underage how they will know if they have a fans that is under 18? so that means any players of every team are not allowed to be a model for a gambling site? Like Drake in stake I know that many young people are in Drakes music but he is advertising gambling about Stake does that mean he is not allowed too?

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April 12, 2022, 09:47:19 AM
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Most of the celebrities are known by many people even the underage how they will know if they have a fans that is under 18? so that means any players of every team are not allowed to be a model for a gambling site? Like Drake in stake I know that many young people are in Drakes music but he is advertising gambling about Stake does that mean he is not allowed too?
you can simply understand by reading the quoted part mate and that indicates about what is the law means , and yes Even Drake will not be allowed to advertise stake, but i think the rules stand in directly advertising or meaning modeling but not if they are a representative of the gambling site like drake now in which he is a partner of the stake.com.

But like those sports team that will directly advertise the gambling they will be the one that may prohibit .

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April 12, 2022, 11:42:55 AM
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Since the new prohibition is because of underage it going to have a strong impact and many celebrities will strictly adhere to, the new law to protect underage from gambling addiction this is a strong point that casino both physical of online casinos will have to play along the right part if their want to continue operations.

You are right. Casinos and gambling website should abide the law if they still want to continue to operate because there are certain degree of punishments for those who break the law for serving their self-interests which in this case, to make a profit. This new rule will however cost their exposure and reach because the advertisements will be banned to protect the minors, but this is for the better.

However, I still find it not that much of a use because no matter how hard they try to ban the ads from the youth, they will eventually make a way to go over it if they would want to. After all, the technology is now more advanced than before and the Internet is just a little part of all of it. They can still know about it outside the Internet, perhaps from their peers and the likes. Although still, this is a good initiative if would be strengthen to really filter those underage from accessing.
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April 12, 2022, 12:50:38 PM
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Most of the celebrities are known by many people even the underage how they will know if they have a fans that is under 18? so that means any players of every team are not allowed to be a model for a gambling site? Like Drake in stake I know that many young people are in Drakes music but he is advertising gambling about Stake does that mean he is not allowed too?
I'm not sure if that rule covers the entire country, I think the law differs from country to country and stake is not stupid to pay Drake millions of dollars if in the end it will give them a headache because they violated the law.

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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.

In my opinion, children should not gamble at all. Many adults have a problem with this, let children who are completely unaware of the dangers of how advertising works and how it can be different from reality. Children almost believe in what they see, so when they see on an ad that someone wins a lot of money, they'll think it's that simple. This is, in my opinion, the most dangerous for children.

What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

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April 12, 2022, 01:59:03 PM
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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.
What arguments do they have against this new law? The impression of people around gambling and casino is negative, I have not seen any mother or father liking the fact that their son or daughter gambles. I have never seen someone proudly stating in business & social events that they gamble. We can clearly see the statistics of the negative impact of gambling on people. Have you ever seen positive ones? I want to say: Drugs induce euphoria but no one is proud of using them because they cause addiction and everything that causes addiction has cons that outweigh any possible pros.

They have zero arguments against this law at the moment! Celebrities like already mentioned Christiano Ronaldo, have a huge impact on the young generation. Look, kids try to wear their boots, t-shirt with their names and because of them they support the clubs where they play. A lot of kids are dreaming to become as successful footballer (Soccer) as Christiano Ronaldo.

Also, estricting the ads to those aged 25 and over for most sites is a good idea too. I personally think that 18 years old aren't adults, most of them can't live without parents support, most of them change their mind very often, people in this age don't even know which profession to choose and some of them re-enter the university after finishing the one or are unhappy with their career.

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This may be a little detrimental to some casinos which always promote with stars in it but refers to gambling whether this will be in accordance with the reality later because considering that even teenagers do see advertisements from stars but when discussing gambling I don't think they really look there . because even they can still do that even if they don't see the ad there.
but maybe there will be a slight adjustment now if you really want to be limited to those who gamble over the age of 18

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This may be a little detrimental to some casinos which always promote with stars in it but refers to gambling whether this will be in accordance with the reality later because considering that even teenagers do see advertisements from stars but when discussing gambling I don't think they really look there . because even they can still do that even if they don't see the ad there.
but maybe there will be a slight adjustment now if you really want to be limited to those who gamble over the age of 18
Even if the celebrities and famous personalities are not banned they try to keep themselves away from controversial topics. In my opinion they are banned because there are multicultural societies and people of different ethnicities live in close community. And in some communities gambling is prohibited and people do not gamble at all. If they do they  don't do that in public.

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I think any rule will be useless if gambling can still be found and played everywhere, because even countries that clearly prohibit gambling but people still gamble both young and old. So in this case I personally think that the gambling site company will still operate well even without the frills of stars or celebrities because after all, the rules are only about dealing with celebrities or top sports players and not about sports sponsors. So, basically they can still advertise their company and it will not make teenagers avoid gambling, because the only rule to avoid gambling is from themselves.

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April 12, 2022, 05:25:41 PM
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I think any rule will be useless if gambling can still be found and played everywhere, because even countries that clearly prohibit gambling but people still gamble both young and old. So in this case I personally think that the gambling site company will still operate well even without the frills of stars or celebrities because after all, the rules are only about dealing with celebrities or top sports players and not about sports sponsors. So, basically they can still advertise their company and it will not make teenagers avoid gambling, because the only rule to avoid gambling is from themselves.
In countries where gambling is a serious issue. Big name would already be very very careful in getting into such trend be it local or international.
In our culture gambling is BANNED, so no sportman or star would even think to promote it. Even if they are regular gamblor in their private life.

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What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

What they need to do is make effective punishments to deter rulebreakers and this is often overlooked throughout the whole process. In the world of corporatism we far to often see fines factored into the cost of doing business which is completely against the spirit of what they're intended to do. If you start by using percentage of turnover as a calculation of fines instead of fixed amounts and combine it with incremental multipliers if they are caught more than once, it'll stop being worth their while to break such laws. Politicians are starting to wise up to this but those same politicians can also be offered lucrative "consulting" jobs if they nudge laws in a way that pleases such money making giants. I walked past an advert for a Heineken beer the other day and had to double check, because it looked like a Fortnite advert, absolutely disgraceful targeting of children.

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April 12, 2022, 06:52:40 PM
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But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.
Minors are involved in the world of gambling, I think it is common knowledge among the people, especially in my country, it's a fact, with the ease with which advertisements can be seen on the internet and also on social media, it will be a serious challenge for the government.

Coupled with gambling advertisements that celebrities promote, 70% of 18 year olds can fall into the world of gambling, but what do you want to say the world is already filled with technology and easy applications to get, but on the contrary if the prohibition of gambling advertising is only aimed at celebrities, I'm not sure it will affect the lack of 18-year-olds involved, because the basic gambling site applications already know it, except for 18-year-olds it's not recommended to use laptops and Android phones.

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There are different forms of advertising. You also have many sites where famous people are advertised, but in an illegal way because the people in question have not given permission for this. There are also sites that have appointed well-known former football lessons as ambassadors. I can remember Ruud Gullit doing that once at Betclic. There is nothing wrong with that in itself. In some countries it is also forbidden to broadcast such commercials on television if famous actors or the Netherlands are involved. However, I never understood why, it is not fraud, not a scam and not a deception.

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April 12, 2022, 10:43:30 PM
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It looks like the streaming of fake casino games will end.
Casinos created fake accounts for streamers who played at the casino and won huge amounts of money. Of course, these were fake winnings, but the viewer did not know this. Thought it was a real win. Unfortunately, most of them were kids who, seeing how easy it was to win money, most often deposited their parents money and lose everything immediately. Fortunately, it will end now.

if people will continue to report those fake streamers, YT and other streaming services will take down those videos. because if no one is reporting, definitely, there will always be something like this in circulation. but don't get too confident that they will be out of the market, because for sure, there will always be a new casino willing to pay an influencer to advertise their site showing fake winnings and all.
but on the note about ban on known personalities, or sports athletes, i have to agree with this. because some of these personalities have young followers. and they will see them as examples they want to imitate with.
They should really get rid of that first before banning out celebs who are promoting or with have partnerships with gambling companies because it  would really be totally useless if they would still let
those things running or exposed yet considering that we are on a high tech era which basically means that kids or youth could still make able to see these things where gambling videos or streams are
almost everywhere so its not totally the solution for this problem but if they do really strictly impose such laws then companies would be having no choice but to deal with it.

But they can totally get rid of this casino since some part of the country are earning benefits thru tax so taking them down will also cost them a lot of money lost as income to their country that's why they just do this to minimize the damage what possibly can bring by those huge promotions made by celebrities. Also for sure they will take an action towards streamers since if they ban celebrities they will also do the same with those influencers who promote casinos.
If they would make out an overall ban then that would surely be making out some effect when it comes to tax revenue do to that effect on the decision that they do had made but if they do have
other various sources which they could rely on then they would surely stick on standing on the  decision.Protecting against gambling addiction kind of motive is somewhat really that commendable
since the government is really showing up some care into its citizens but only a few would definitely be doing this stuff and the rest would be minding about tax.

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It doesn't affect much in my opinion and also good for the gambling community because public figure with huge followers of young age might be attracted if they are used in gambling related advertisement so when minor does something which harms the community then it might affect the entire gambling community as well. But someone is going to be a part kf advertisement which isn't an actual solution to the issue we are talking but the regulations has to be followed.









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April 13, 2022, 02:18:13 AM
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There are different forms of advertising. You also have many sites where famous people are advertised, but in an illegal way because the people in question have not given permission for this. There are also sites that have appointed well-known former football lessons as ambassadors. I can remember Ruud Gullit doing that once at Betclic. There is nothing wrong with that in itself. In some countries it is also forbidden to broadcast such commercials on television if famous actors or the Netherlands are involved. However, I never understood why, it is not fraud, not a scam and not a deception.
it is not about scamming nor fraud or even deception mate but what those celebrity to take effect in their fans and followers most specially younger generation , because more than anyone? they are the one who can be lured easily.
so i think that the government is only taking the chance to risk the future of younger people when they are doing nothing as this has been the problem over the years,
when even Highschool student becomes gamblers and badly turns addicted .

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This is a common rule with the gambling platform that prevents the 18 years old below to play gambling because of their not builder knowledge and being responsible in a gambling platform but I guess its a good move too that preventing the celebrities with the promotion because of their reputation too if the platform fails they will get with it that destroys their image as well but it depends on the organization we know they so much gain influence right.

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There are different forms of advertising. You also have many sites where famous people are advertised, but in an illegal way because the people in question have not given permission for this. There are also sites that have appointed well-known former football lessons as ambassadors. I can remember Ruud Gullit doing that once at Betclic. There is nothing wrong with that in itself. In some countries it is also forbidden to broadcast such commercials on television if famous actors or the Netherlands are involved. However, I never understood why, it is not fraud, not a scam and not a deception.
This has to do with protecting those that are underage and nothing more, we know that people underage have not completed their development and as such they are more prone to act on their impulses and make mistakes they would not make if they were older, so it makes sense to protect them from certain behaviors which could be damaging for them at such an early age, as an example this is why alcohol consumption is forbidden for them, so its reasonable that similar regulations are passed to avoid casinos to target their ads to them.
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April 13, 2022, 06:49:32 AM
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This is a common rule with the gambling platform that prevents the 18 years old below to play gambling because of their not builder knowledge and being responsible in a gambling platform but I guess its a good move too that preventing the celebrities with the promotion because of their reputation too if the platform fails they will get with it that destroys their image as well but it depends on the organization we know they so much gain influence right.
Almost with gambling platform is not allowed for children under 18 years old and depending with parent how controlling their children, I think some celebrities are advertiser on gambling platform as adult person and not allowed with children as advertising or member. Usually with gambling casino support with fiat deposit only not ability for children under 18 years old participant on gambling games because they still not have ID card and not possibility for creating bank account, but different with cryptocurrency gambling platform have chance for children as active there are member.

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It doesn't affect much in my opinion and also good for the gambling community because public figure with huge followers of young age might be attracted if they are used in gambling related advertisement so when minor does something which harms the community then it might affect the entire gambling community as well. But someone is going to be a part kf advertisement which isn't an actual solution to the issue we are talking but the regulations has to be followed.

Of course, this move will not have an effect on the growing gambling industry! Generally, I don't like rules, but this sounds good! The majority of celebrities of any kind are followed by many minors, so they should pay attention to what they are advertising! Obviously, many of them are not aware of what is good and what is bad, then there should be a rule that will guide them a little.

But can this have any effect with so many social networks around where many influencers do whatever they want?! Look at Twitch, although there are rules there are still streamers who gamble millions on slots with many followers, probably most of them are minors!

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April 13, 2022, 07:24:00 AM
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This has to do with protecting those that are underage and nothing more, we know that people underage have not completed their development and as such they are more prone to act on their impulses and make mistakes they would not make if they were older, so it makes sense to protect them from certain behaviors which could be damaging for them at such an early age, as an example this is why alcohol consumption is forbidden for them, so its reasonable that similar regulations are passed to avoid casinos to target their ads to them.
If it's protective, I agree, because for something that prevents it, especially when they've made a need, even at a young age, they can access some sites that are even blocked by local authorities because they're underage, it's not an offer. Maybe some people will agree and parents at there will monitor and protect wifi devices/networks in their homes. It's more of a delay for their developing self and sufficient education about a mindset and the legal basis for an action. maybe later after the age of 18 years and over. I believe that hobbies or interests Everyone's interests are different, all types of games, gambling and the like will be more appropriate at the time. Even though it goes massively, I think there are other ways, either the marketing team or the owner, to market their products by attracting better

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April 13, 2022, 07:24:34 AM
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This may be a little detrimental to some casinos which always promote with stars in it but refers to gambling whether this will be in accordance with the reality later because considering that even teenagers do see advertisements from stars but when discussing gambling I don't think they really look there . because even they can still do that even if they don't see the ad there.
but maybe there will be a slight adjustment now if you really want to be limited to those who gamble over the age of 18
Even if the celebrities and famous personalities are not banned they try to keep themselves away from controversial topics. In my opinion they are banned because there are multicultural societies and people of different ethnicities live in close community. And in some communities gambling is prohibited and people do not gamble at all. If they do they  don't do that in public.
this is true, but if that's the reason then there will be a bit of another debate because indeed we live with the will we want and that includes rights even though they are artists and famous people but that doesn't mean they can't determine their lives to the fullest. which direction the goal is and the work done.
but indeed there are few who can do that considering famous people can be a reflection for others who follow them.
Well this can be a good thing but on the other hand it can be a double-edged sword for casinos

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This is a good rule in my opinion, sports stars should be a model for next generation and they should be look up as an inspiration for upcoming generation and if they saw them promoting gambling site youths would think that it could be good for them which would ruin their future. I would agree with charity advertisement, shoes, etc. but not gambling advertisements.

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This has to do with protecting those that are underage and nothing more, we know that people underage have not completed their development and as such they are more prone to act on their impulses and make mistakes they would not make if they were older, so it makes sense to protect them from certain behaviors which could be damaging for them at such an early age, as an example this is why alcohol consumption is forbidden for them, so its reasonable that similar regulations are passed to avoid casinos to target their ads to them.
If it's protective, I agree, because for something that prevents it, especially when they've made a need, even at a young age, they can access some sites that are even blocked by local authorities because they're underage, it's not an offer. Maybe some people will agree and parents at there will monitor and protect wifi devices/networks in their homes. It's more of a delay for their developing self and sufficient education about a mindset and the legal basis for an action. maybe later after the age of 18 years and over. I believe that hobbies or interests Everyone's interests are different, all types of games, gambling and the like will be more appropriate at the time. Even though it goes massively, I think there are other ways, either the marketing team or the owner, to market their products by attracting better
Maybe parents should pay attention to the gadget they use to explore the internet because, with the development of internet technology that can easily access, they will be able to find gambling sites by coincidence. And this is how parents can monitor while their children are using their gadgets. Even though they are over 18 years old but still under 20 years old, the role of parents should be with them because, at their age, they are very vulnerable to the entry of things that they don't know yet. Parents can explain gambling or other things so that their children will not be misguided in getting along.

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This is a good rule in my opinion, sports stars should be a model for next generation and they should be look up as an inspiration for upcoming generation and if they saw them promoting gambling site youths would think that it could be good for them which would ruin their future. I would agree with charity advertisement, shoes, etc. but not gambling advertisements.

I agree, and this would have a big impact on the younger generation because, you know, when they see something popular, they tend to follow it. I don't know what is going on with the youth in this decade because they follow everything, unlike in my time when we just wanted it but didn't really follow it, and unlike today, they will beg their parents to try it. This is really good news in terms of gambling since it could reduce the underage interest in gambling and reduce addictions. I think this also has no big impact on the gambling industry because it only targets the under-18s.
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I think any rule will be useless if gambling can still be found and played everywhere, because even countries that clearly prohibit gambling but people still gamble both young and old. So in this case I personally think that the gambling site company will still operate well even without the frills of stars or celebrities because after all, the rules are only about dealing with celebrities or top sports players and not about sports sponsors. So, basically they can still advertise their company and it will not make teenagers avoid gambling, because the only rule to avoid gambling is from themselves.
A rule is not useless because many people are going to comply with it but yes there will be some that are hard headed and will not follow any rules but they are not a good example. They have the guts and the skill and if ever they caught out, they are ready to get punished.

I think celebrities that advertise a gambling company are a new thing but I haven't seen or heard that a gambling company are doing that on the past so yeah they can always operate normally even if without those gimmicks. They can still gather a lot of customers from a normal advertisement or promotions as long as what is stated is true and if they are offering a good service.
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April 13, 2022, 10:46:13 PM
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I think any rule will be useless if gambling can still be found and played everywhere, because even countries that clearly prohibit gambling but people still gamble both young and old. So in this case I personally think that the gambling site company will still operate well even without the frills of stars or celebrities because after all, the rules are only about dealing with celebrities or top sports players and not about sports sponsors. So, basically they can still advertise their company and it will not make teenagers avoid gambling, because the only rule to avoid gambling is from themselves.
A rule is not useless because many people are going to comply with it but yes there will be some that are hard headed and will not follow any rules but they are not a good example. They have the guts and the skill and if ever they caught out, they are ready to get punished.

I think celebrities that advertise a gambling company are a new thing but I haven't seen or heard that a gambling company are doing that on the past so yeah they can always operate normally even if without those gimmicks. They can still gather a lot of customers from a normal advertisement or promotions as long as what is stated is true and if they are offering a good service.

If that rule is a law, non-compliant people will be punished by the law, I don't think they'll be " hard headed" enough if they know the penalty of the violation, especially if it has a serious penalty. The thing is, the penalty might not be serious enough that gambling sites and advertisers could violate it as they know can afford to pay the penalty.

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April 13, 2022, 11:34:11 PM
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I think any rule will be useless if gambling can still be found and played everywhere, because even countries that clearly prohibit gambling but people still gamble both young and old. So in this case I personally think that the gambling site company will still operate well even without the frills of stars or celebrities because after all, the rules are only about dealing with celebrities or top sports players and not about sports sponsors. So, basically they can still advertise their company and it will not make teenagers avoid gambling, because the only rule to avoid gambling is from themselves.
A rule is not useless because many people are going to comply with it but yes there will be some that are hard headed and will not follow any rules but they are not a good example. They have the guts and the skill and if ever they caught out, they are ready to get punished.

I think celebrities that advertise a gambling company are a new thing but I haven't seen or heard that a gambling company are doing that on the past so yeah they can always operate normally even if without those gimmicks. They can still gather a lot of customers from a normal advertisement or promotions as long as what is stated is true and if they are offering a good service.

If that rule is a law, non-compliant people will be punished by the law, I don't think they'll be " hard headed" enough if they know the penalty of the violation, especially if it has a serious penalty. The thing is, the penalty might not be serious enough that gambling sites and advertisers could violate it as they know can afford to pay the penalty.
Neither it would be having big amount violation or would really be in incremental behavior but it would really be that understandable that it would be a huge one considering that Gambling industry is a profitable or big
business which it would really be common sense that penalty would be big.If this would really be law then they wont really be having no option but to abide or obey it specially if that one cost big.
Its sad that celebs wont really able to get attached with gambling  industry which is really a total loss in between the two which is casino and those influencers.

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April 13, 2022, 11:49:25 PM
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This is a good rule in my opinion, sports stars should be a model for next generation and they should be look up as an inspiration for upcoming generation and if they saw them promoting gambling site youths would think that it could be good for them which would ruin their future. I would agree with charity advertisement, shoes, etc. but not gambling advertisements.

I agree, and this would have a big impact on the younger generation because, you know, when they see something popular, they tend to follow it. I don't know what is going on with the youth in this decade because they follow everything, unlike in my time when we just wanted it but didn't really follow it, and unlike today, they will beg their parents to try it. This is really good news in terms of gambling since it could reduce the underage interest in gambling and reduce addictions. I think this also has no big impact on the gambling industry because it only targets the under-18s.
^ As I see, this is a case to case basis because not all younger generations now can afford to gamble and they know how to gamble still they cannot able to do it because they don't have enough funds to try and the reason is they are still relying on the parent. This is how parents should have a responsibility to their children, if they will expose to gambling because of the promotions from the celebrities, educate them about gambling and for sure they know which is good or bad. I will not blame those celebrity advertisements who promote gambling to become a threat to the children from gambling addiction, it should be from the parents on how they will guide their children.
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April 13, 2022, 11:58:58 PM
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Given their fame and the amount of influence these guys have, I partly agree that they shouldn't partake in any activity promoting and advertising gambling. Though their target market is obviously the adults which can gamble, there is no way that they can control what the youngsters can see online or in the TV. Most of the time when young people see their idols advertise something, they tend to want it, or copy whatever it is that their idol is doing because they think it can make them look cool. Then again it's really a controversial law because it only targets the gambling sector and not other sectors which may also have a negative effect on the young population (liquors, tobacco-based stuff, etc.)

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April 14, 2022, 04:41:58 AM
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In this case gambling sites either sports-books or casino will be affected on those country which countries will follow this rule and also the advertiser company, celebrities will also face problem on those country. But those countries which will not allow this rule, will not affect on the users of those country, advertiser of those country and celebrities of those countries.
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In this case gambling sites either sports-books or casino will be affected on those country which countries will follow this rule and also the advertiser company, celebrities will also face problem on those country. But those countries which will not allow this rule, will not affect on the users of those country, advertiser of those country and celebrities of those countries.

Ideal is only those not related into crypto gambling like the celebrities of course their manager will accept the offer for their agents just to earn money but with the sports gambling and sports known person it's hard to remove them because they are the image of the sports and of course many people supporting the sports events. To the sports image personalities don't want to lose their reputation too if the gambling platform has issues.

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April 14, 2022, 06:22:46 AM
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I think any rule will be useless if gambling can still be found and played everywhere, because even countries that clearly prohibit gambling but people still gamble both young and old. So in this case I personally think that the gambling site company will still operate well even without the frills of stars or celebrities because after all, the rules are only about dealing with celebrities or top sports players and not about sports sponsors. So, basically they can still advertise their company and it will not make teenagers avoid gambling, because the only rule to avoid gambling is from themselves.
A rule is not useless because many people are going to comply with it but yes there will be some that are hard headed and will not follow any rules but they are not a good example. They have the guts and the skill and if ever they caught out, they are ready to get punished.

I think celebrities that advertise a gambling company are a new thing but I haven't seen or heard that a gambling company are doing that on the past so yeah they can always operate normally even if without those gimmicks. They can still gather a lot of customers from a normal advertisement or promotions as long as what is stated is true and if they are offering a good service.

Gamblers always a gambler they will come and play, those extra advertising might be effective to attract newcomers especially those young generations who can access the internet freely, it's the obligation that might also be in the side of those celebrities, if fans will follow them it will hurt those young mindset.

Keeping away from the possible influence is a good way to help to lessen the early addiction of those young adults who already starting
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April 14, 2022, 09:46:44 AM
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In this case gambling sites either sports-books or casino will be affected on those country which countries will follow this rule and also the advertiser company, celebrities will also face problem on those country. But those countries which will not allow this rule, will not affect on the users of those country, advertiser of those country and celebrities of those countries.

Ideal is only those not related into crypto gambling like the celebrities of course their manager will accept the offer for their agents just to earn money but with the sports gambling and sports known person it's hard to remove them because they are the image of the sports and of course many people supporting the sports events. To the sports image personalities don't want to lose their reputation too if the gambling platform has issues.
It seems the casinos need to find other celebrities from different countries than before so they can keep using celebrities in their promotions and don't have to worry about breaking the rules.
Changing the promotion ways is something that the casino should do if the casino wants to keep using celebrities to help it promote itself.
If not, they will find another way that might be more appropriate than before.
Maybe we will see something else from the casino in the promotion.

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April 14, 2022, 11:43:38 AM
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For ads purposes, yes, that's a helpful update. If casinos prohibits the registration of users age of 18 and  below then casino ads should follow the same pattern too. Coz ads plays a role to encourage someone to do this and that as shown on an ad, people's ages in ads plays a role too, as it targets its type of users' ages etc.

This is somehow difficult to draw the line on determining if the player is indeed 18 years old in registering in the gambling website.

Since players look for convenience, adding a KYC function to a gambling site could either make or break the whole business. But, if they do not implement any KYC function, this would attract underaged players in gambling which is something that must be prevented at all cost.

Prohibiting and banning celebrities can definitely help as any method of mitigating the damage can be helpful. I just hope that it would at least decrease the overall numbers of underaged gamblers around the globe.

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This is somehow difficult to draw the line on determining if the player is indeed 18 years old in registering in the gambling website.
Ofc, users (below 18) might enjoy doing things he used to until he faced a problem on the website and the casino requires him to go kyc for them to uplift the issue, although some casino didnt require kyc but this terms will change over time.

Since players look for convenience, adding a KYC function to a gambling site could either make or break the whole business. But, if they do not implement any KYC function, this would attract underaged players in gambling which is something that must be prevented at all cost.
Its not loss for the business it's their assurance for the authorities not to get rid of them for having no license since most casino dont require kyc have no license.

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This is somehow difficult to draw the line on determining if the player is indeed 18 years old in registering in the gambling website.

Since players look for convenience, adding a KYC function to a gambling site could either make or break the whole business. But, if they do not implement any KYC function, this would attract underaged players in gambling which is something that must be prevented at all cost.

Prohibiting and banning celebrities can definitely help as any method of mitigating the damage can be helpful. I just hope that it would at least decrease the overall numbers of underaged gamblers around the globe.

If talking about KYC is the standard given by several companies, whether casino, sportsbook or other partners, it is true that the younger generation is only limited to first accessing, understanding and if there is a demo account to try it, I know very well that some people on their social media offer several how to cooperate with anyone who has problems in the Kyc consensus. They facilitate it, as if selling their personal data to a partner. We know that as long as there is money and there is openness on social media, whether it's a special fan group or the like, it's a service. such as this which then provides and supports children under 18 years of age to have access to gambling or to sites provided for those who are old enough. I think they chose the practical one like that, my friend

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But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.
Gambling addiction at an early age, is a serious problem that until now is difficult to solve...

why are those who are under 18 years old not allowed to gamble on many gambling sites (crypto or traditional) because at that age on average they are still under the auspices of their parents or are in school. btw, banning influencers (athletes or artists) from promoting gambling sites I think is the right decision although it will not be 100% effective but it is a good rule.



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April 14, 2022, 08:36:21 PM
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In this case gambling sites either sports-books or casino will be affected on those country which countries will follow this rule and also the advertiser company, celebrities will also face problem on those country. But those countries which will not allow this rule, will not affect on the users of those country, advertiser of those country and celebrities of those countries.

Ideal is only those not related into crypto gambling like the celebrities of course their manager will accept the offer for their agents just to earn money but with the sports gambling and sports known person it's hard to remove them because they are the image of the sports and of course many people supporting the sports events. To the sports image personalities don't want to lose their reputation too if the gambling platform has issues.
It seems the casinos need to find other celebrities from different countries than before so they can keep using celebrities in their promotions and don't have to worry about breaking the rules.
Changing the promotion ways is something that the casino should do if the casino wants to keep using celebrities to help it promote itself.
If not, they will find another way that might be more appropriate than before.
Maybe we will see something else from the casino in the promotion.
I am not sure where parents insist their kids to gamble? In our culture it is serious issue and its illegal as well.
On a side not would you like your kids to gamble? But celebrities are very influential people they are wise enough to chose what not to promote

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I am not sure about this new rule. On one side, betting is like any other industry and all of the retail industries are now using influencers and, even decades ago, they used starts and celebrities in TV campaigns, even before internet. Why should gaming be different? On the other side, it is true that marketing should be directed to the right people and youngsters should not be betting.

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I am not sure about this new rule. On one side, betting is like any other industry and all of the retail industries are now using influencers and, even decades ago, they used starts and celebrities in TV campaigns, even before internet. Why should gaming be different? On the other side, it is true that marketing should be directed to the right people and youngsters should not be betting.
I second with you. Youngster look towards their ideal for inspiration and ideas. In our country youngster are great fans of BTS. They dream and talk about them.
What would happen if they would promote g***. so if there is any law passed - I think it is the right decision and that the kids should get themselves involved in creative activists.

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April 14, 2022, 10:34:36 PM
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It seems the casinos need to find other celebrities from different countries than before so they can keep using celebrities in their promotions and don't have to worry about breaking the rules.
Changing the promotion ways is something that the casino should do if the casino wants to keep using celebrities to help it promote itself.
If not, they will find another way that might be more appropriate than before.
Maybe we will see something else from the casino in the promotion.
If it is okay with changing the celebrities then there is almost nothing to be worried to the gambling sites. But it will be worried for the celebrities of those countries who have been working/would have to work as advertiser for the gambling websites. It will be loss only for those celebrities; no one else.
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I am not sure about this new rule. On one side, betting is like any other industry and all of the retail industries are now using influencers and, even decades ago, they used starts and celebrities in TV campaigns, even before internet. Why should gaming be different? On the other side, it is true that marketing should be directed to the right people and youngsters should not be betting.
I second with you. Youngster look towards their ideal for inspiration and ideas. In our country youngster are great fans of BTS. They dream and talk about them.
What would happen if they would promote g***. so if there is any law passed - I think it is the right decision and that the kids should get themselves involved in creative activists.
It would really be giving out such impact which is definitely true and fact and its been an initiative that they would really be making out decision on banning it because of the reason or possibilities of bad effect or result

whenever their idols do introduce gambling but there are countries which does have that movie and television review or something like that which they would need to approve whether its appropriate
or not or simply make out some warnings whenever they do see that there's something that shouldnt be seen by young audiences.

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I am not sure where parents insist their kids to gamble? In our culture it is serious issue and its illegal as well.
On a side not would you like your kids to gamble? But celebrities are very influential people they are wise enough to chose what not to promote
Parents do not force their children to gamble but it is their children who discover gambling by themselves.
I don't want to see my kids gamble but even if they do, I hope they don't spend big money and don't get addicted like other people.
As long as we as parents can teach them well and they can understand and accept it too, I think they will know how to behave with gambling.

If it is okay with changing the celebrities then there is almost nothing to be worried to the gambling sites. But it will be worried for the celebrities of those countries who have been working/would have to work as advertiser for the gambling websites. It will be loss only for those celebrities; no one else.
Yes, they will miss one of the opportunities to make big money from the gambling industry considering the gambling industry contributes revenue to celebrities.
But maybe it's the best way for them to avoid pressure from the government because after all, they have to follow government regulations not to advertise gambling.

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Committee for Advertising Practice is so quick to impose this law seeing how active the gambling activity in cryptocommunity which celebrities are now getting sponsors. I wonder if becoming a partner like Drake is excluded in this law.

I am not sure where parents insist their kids to gamble? In our culture it is serious issue and its illegal as well.
On a side not would you like your kids to gamble? But celebrities are very influential people they are wise enough to chose what not to promote
Parents do not force their children to gamble but it is their children who discover gambling by themselves.
I don't want to see my kids gamble but even if they do, I hope they don't spend big money and don't get addicted like other people.
As long as we as parents can teach them well and they can understand and accept it too, I think they will know how to behave with gambling.

If it is okay with changing the celebrities then there is almost nothing to be worried to the gambling sites. But it will be worried for the celebrities of those countries who have been working/would have to work as advertiser for the gambling websites. It will be loss only for those celebrities; no one else.
Yes, they will miss one of the opportunities to make big money from the gambling industry considering the gambling industry contributes revenue to celebrities.
But maybe it's the best way for them to avoid pressure from the government because after all, they have to follow government regulations not to advertise gambling.

I think its the influence of the celebrities that they are trying to lessen the effect. Kids will always learn gambling from peers no matter how we prevent that from happening, eventually they'd find their way to wager something but its still good to have such law. Fans do buy what the celebrities promote.


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I think its the influence of the celebrities that they are trying to lessen the effect. Kids will always learn gambling from peers no matter how we prevent that from happening, eventually they'd find their way to wager something but its still good to have such law. Fans do buy what the celebrities promote.

Indeed, the friend above is true, when there is a collaboration between the employer or the worker (advertising artist) of course there will be times when they are not together, one side will lose income, one side will lose the figure that was ordered. In my country, there are still many who receive such job offers. that and the company's support makes it easy for customers with only 1$ cell phone vouchers. it's not a matter of other matters but the persistence and tolerance of gambling by the company although I personally prefer to use a popular sportbook or casino not locally. of course there are advantages and disadvantages but for a This collaboration is a difficult thing in my opinion, there are 2 groups whose position is threatened in terms of income, especially the artist.

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In this case gambling sites either sports-books or casino will be affected on those country which countries will follow this rule and also the advertiser company, celebrities will also face problem on those country. But those countries which will not allow this rule, will not affect on the users of those country, advertiser of those country and celebrities of those countries.
Yeah, it all depends on which country you are living in, if you are living in a country where there are a lot of restrictions, then you'll not gonna enjoy gambling, so just find another way to enjoy 100% and at the same time protect your identity so you'll be safe all the time.

The rule of the gambling sites is just to allow and disallow gamblers, if they allow you and they are reputable gambling sites, then your country has no problem with the rules that are practiced by other countries.

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In this case gambling sites either sports-books or casino will be affected on those country which countries will follow this rule and also the advertiser company, celebrities will also face problem on those country. But those countries which will not allow this rule, will not affect on the users of those country, advertiser of those country and celebrities of those countries.
Yeah, it all depends on which country you are living in, if you are living in a country where there are a lot of restrictions, then you'll not gonna enjoy gambling, so just find another way to enjoy 100% and at the same time protect your identity so you'll be safe all the time.

The rule of the gambling sites is just to allow and disallow gamblers, if they allow you and they are reputable gambling sites, then your country has no problem with the rules that are practiced by other countries.
My question is - is there any gambler in the forum who stopped gambling because they don't find gambling productive and rather risky.
Gambling is fun if you don't spend your saving - or it is safe when you have nothing to loose at all.
But I would like to know if there is any gambler who stopped gambling. Looking fwd.

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My question is - is there any gambler in the forum who stopped gambling because they don't find gambling productive and rather risky.
I want to say that I have paused gambling but I have not stopped. I have paused it as I was making loss day by day. So I have just paused gambling and I have decided to resume gambling again after several weeks/months. It is just my decision for now and this can be changed at any time.
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April 15, 2022, 04:49:01 PM
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My question is - is there any gambler in the forum who stopped gambling because they don't find gambling productive and rather risky.
I want to say that I have paused gambling but I have not stopped. I have paused it as I was making loss day by day. So I have just paused gambling and I have decided to resume gambling again after several weeks/months. It is just my decision for now and this can be changed at any time.
I have stopped gambling too - I lost my saving and I didn't come back on my feet after so many years. The gambling has placed me in very serious trouble.
I would suggest everyone to be very careful while putting their assets in gambling. - its very risky - I have seen serious consequences. Being vigilant won't hurt.

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April 15, 2022, 05:04:35 PM
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I lost my saving and I didn't come back on my feet after so many years.
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its very risky
To use your savings in gambling is very wrong move and that is really too risky. Unless you are into sports betting which is way easier to win yet using your savings is still a wrong move. 

I want to say that I have paused gambling but I have not stopped. I have paused it as I was making loss day by day. So I have just paused gambling and I have decided to resume gambling again after several weeks/months. It is just my decision for now and this can be changed at any time.
So what's the purpose of yours to gamble for profit or just to entertain? As I see this is a good decision to paused temporarily, but the fact that you lost your money isn't entertaining at all. So what motivates you to continue gambling since it's a daily loss before the day you decided to paused.

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April 15, 2022, 07:05:04 PM
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I have stopped gambling too - I lost my saving and I didn't come back on my feet after so many years. The gambling has placed me in very serious trouble.
I would suggest everyone to be very careful while putting their assets in gambling. - its very risky - I have seen serious consequences. Being vigilant won't hurt.
Do you use all of your savings funds to gamble, it is the biggest risk factor because in gambling addiction it will be difficult to control emotions and greed that continues to trigger to say all-in to big bets without consideration, it is recommended that you adjust the proportion of funds that are appropriate for gambling and assume it's just entertainment without hoping to dream of getting rich from gambling, it's very impossible.

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April 15, 2022, 07:21:08 PM
 #123

My question is - is there any gambler in the forum who stopped gambling because they don't find gambling productive and rather risky.
I want to say that I have paused gambling but I have not stopped. I have paused it as I was making loss day by day. So I have just paused gambling and I have decided to resume gambling again after several weeks/months. It is just my decision for now and this can be changed at any time.
I have stopped gambling too - I lost my saving and I didn't come back on my feet after so many years. The gambling has placed me in very serious trouble.
I would suggest everyone to be very careful while putting their assets in gambling. - its very risky - I have seen serious consequences. Being vigilant won't hurt.

You put your savings into gambling which was never the right decision, you thought it was a big mistake of yours then. In any case, if you use full savings, you need to be aware of the guarantee of getting it back. Because if you lose the savings, there will be a lot of misery in your life, maybe you already understand that. If you create an extra attraction towards anything then you will naturally become addicted to it, in this case not just gambling. So when you are interested in something, you should know in advance about the consequences so that it does not happen later. Since you have already made a mistake, refrain from making the same mistake in the future.

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April 15, 2022, 08:54:09 PM
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I would suggest everyone to be very careful while putting their assets in gambling. - its very risky - I have seen serious consequences. Being vigilant won't hurt.

It is very bad (sorry to hear) that you have lost your savings by gambling. I always say that we should not use any fund on gambling which will effect our regular life if we loss it. We should be aware that if we play on the casino/sportsbook then we may win  and also we may loss. So, we should use only those fund which we can afford if we loss it.
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April 15, 2022, 08:58:51 PM
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My question is - is there any gambler in the forum who stopped gambling because they don't find gambling productive and rather risky.
I want to say that I have paused gambling but I have not stopped. I have paused it as I was making loss day by day. So I have just paused gambling and I have decided to resume gambling again after several weeks/months. It is just my decision for now and this can be changed at any time.
I have stopped gambling too - I lost my saving and I didn't come back on my feet after so many years. The gambling has placed me in very serious trouble.
I would suggest everyone to be very careful while putting their assets in gambling. - its very risky - I have seen serious consequences. Being vigilant won't hurt.
the question is why are you so sure to put all your assets, even your savings on gambling?  learn to always manage money and only gamble with money you can lose.  love your family, time and money you already have.  other than that no one knows the future, don't take the risk of not having savings. thank you for reminding me, i will never gamble with all the money i have even though the gambling site is endorsed by celebrities or Sports stars.

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I would suggest everyone to be very careful while putting their assets in gambling. - its very risky - I have seen serious consequences. Being vigilant won't hurt.

It is very bad (sorry to hear) that you have lost your savings by gambling. I always say that we should not use any fund on gambling which will effect our regular life if we loss it. We should be aware that if we play on the casino/sportsbook then we may win  and also we may loss. So, we should use only those fund which we can afford if we loss it.
This is the effect if you got the hyped from those advertisement, you became uncontrolled and seems to be more greedy even without thinking and making plans about your gambling activities. Banning celebrities from advertising gambling site is a good thing and can prevent a lot of addiction, gambling is not safe at all. Don’t ever put all your money in gambling, its too risky and you might regret it.
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April 15, 2022, 09:35:27 PM
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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.

What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

That seems extremely arbitrary to me. Who is to say which stars appeal to children and which ones do not? If the famous footballer, Cristiano Ronaldo is considered a child favorite star, even though like 98% of his fans are adults, then what about any stars in movies or shows? Children watch tv too.

I like that there is more concern about gambling and keeping children away from habits which can be harmful to their development, but in this case, it would rather seem like they are just using children as an excuse to give themselves dicator-like power over gambling casinos.

Or is there a list of "forbidden stars"?

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April 15, 2022, 11:24:55 PM
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My question is - is there any gambler in the forum who stopped gambling because they don't find gambling productive and rather risky.
I want to say that I have paused gambling but I have not stopped. I have paused it as I was making loss day by day. So I have just paused gambling and I have decided to resume gambling again after several weeks/months. It is just my decision for now and this can be changed at any time.
I have stopped gambling too - I lost my saving and I didn't come back on my feet after so many years. The gambling has placed me in very serious trouble.
I would suggest everyone to be very careful while putting their assets in gambling. - its very risky - I have seen serious consequences. Being vigilant won't hurt.
the question is why are you so sure to put all your assets, even your savings on gambling?  learn to always manage money and only gamble with money you can lose.  love your family, time and money you already have.  other than that no one knows the future, don't take the risk of not having savings. thank you for reminding me, i will never gamble with all the money i have even though the gambling site is endorsed by celebrities or Sports stars.

You're not the only one with this kind of experience some even steals or sold everything they have thinking that they can recover they've loss they have this thinking that quitters never win which is wrong thinking and you will likely lose everything you've built your whole life before yu start betting you should understand the fact about gambling even casinos have warning in their TOS your loss is your responsibility.
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April 15, 2022, 11:34:46 PM
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I have stopped gambling too - I lost my saving and I didn't come back on my feet after so many years. The gambling has placed me in very serious trouble.
I would suggest everyone to be very careful while putting their assets in gambling. - its very risky - I have seen serious consequences. Being vigilant won't hurt.
Do you use all of your savings funds to gamble, it is the biggest risk factor because in gambling addiction it will be difficult to control emotions and greed that continues to trigger to say all-in to big bets without consideration, it is recommended that you adjust the proportion of funds that are appropriate for gambling and assume it's just entertainment without hoping to dream of getting rich from gambling, it's very impossible.

It has been said many times that only invest/play with the money which you can afford to lose. Many people think that they can become rich overnight and they try to gamble with everything they have. Usually, these people lose all in gambling and thus make their life more miserable.
Greediness can never make you rich and gambling is not a quick rich scheme. Few people might be lucky to gain big profits but most people end up losing their life savings.

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i will never gamble with all the money i have even though the gambling site is endorsed by celebrities or Sports stars.
If any gamble site is endorsed by any celebrities or sports stars then that doesn't mean we will not make loss hence that can ensure us that will not scam us. If no one make loss then what will happen? how they(gambling site) will do their business, How they will make profit, how they will manage their cost?
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Everything has a time.  In this case, it is seen that many children follow the big sports players, many children consider them as idols . so they follow the advertisements more and more, in that case I think it is better to make this law so that the children do not become addicted .After that I can see that this law has been made only for UK.

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I think its the influence of the celebrities that they are trying to lessen the effect. Kids will always learn gambling from peers no matter how we prevent that from happening, eventually they'd find their way to wager something but its still good to have such law. Fans do buy what the celebrities promote.
We often see fans doing what celebrities do regardless of whether it's good or bad.
Besides the curiosity factor, fans see it's something cool if they can follow their idols so we can see a lot of different cases of fans trying to follow their idols.
But kids who often see celebrities plastered on a lot of media or advertisements will get the influence and effect and if it's about gambling, they can ask their peers.
It can have a bad effect because their peers do not necessarily know what they want, so children need the help of their parents or older people.

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April 16, 2022, 11:19:08 AM
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Everything has a time.  In this case, it is seen that many children follow the big sports players, many children consider them as idols . so they follow the advertisements more and more, in that case I think it is better to make this law so that the children do not become addicted .After that I can see that this law has been made only for UK.
this is the main objective of this New rule and i think this is appropriate in our time now because involvement in gambling nowadays are becoming younger and younger , so it must be prevented and also Laws against gambling is very weak nowadays that any people can deal playing even without a need to provide their Identity meaning specially in Online gambling that even kids can literally play without exposing their ages and character.









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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.

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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
Of course, it's not enough.

Can you recommend for a better or best option to detect the age <18 without undergoing KYC? Nah, I bet you cannot and everyone cannot.

KYC is their only choice with a kind of strict KYC, like short video verification, ID selfie and many more wc is annoying in any customers part exposing yourself and personal information is always a big no for me. U0nless it's really a financial related services that you can benefit a lots.
That's why if you're a minor better to avoid such gambling addiction and choose different kind of entertainment coz you will end getting bet up and lossing funds locking in the gambling platform.

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April 16, 2022, 06:28:03 PM
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Given their fame and the amount of influence these guys have, I partly agree that they shouldn't partake in any activity promoting and advertising gambling. Though their target market is obviously the adults which can gamble, there is no way that they can control what the youngsters can see online or in the TV. Most of the time when young people see their idols advertise something, they tend to want it, or copy whatever it is that their idol is doing because they think it can make them look cool. Then again it's really a controversial law because it only targets the gambling sector and not other sectors which may also have a negative effect on the young population (liquors, tobacco-based stuff, etc.)
In some countries tobacco related products cannot advertise anywhere so that is not a problem, however I agree that if they are going to take such a hard stance against gambling then they would need to do the same against alcohol, after all in many countries driving while under the influence of alcohol is the main cause of death among the young, so it would make sense to also put some regulations when it comes to alcohol ads, taking into account alcohol seems way more damaging to the young than gambling.
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Is it just in the UK?

There are plenty of other jurisdictions where this is completely legal, for better or for worse.

But at the end of the day I think banning these sort of influencers from dabbling in gambling ads would be counterproductive - you need to regulate it positively. Just think about the other (often shady) ways that advertisements will soon pop up, for instance youtube influencers getting sponsorship deals & house money to play with.

Yes, it is in the UK ....

I wonder what will now happen with Watford in the Premier league, because they are sponsored by Stake.com? Does this only apply to individuals and teams... or only individuals?

I can see why they are doing this, but it will not help if they are only doing it in the UK. There are millions of underage kids in the UK that are watching other Sports that are sponsored by casinos and gambling. (UFC / Baseball / Basketball ....etc)  Roll Eyes

Exactly lol. And you've also got celebrities who are not directly affiliated but rather promote the casinos in some other way.

I don't necessarily agree with how this is carried out, I think the scope is way too narrow to be effective and they probably should just do without this.

It seems like a very wishful request to think that the industry will just die down as a result of these marketing restrictions.
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April 16, 2022, 10:30:52 PM
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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.

How would you like it to be? I thought we don't like a gambling site that requires more details from gamblers, we are in the crypto space so we would like to enjoy a gambling site that gives us the freedom to gamble anonymously.

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April 16, 2022, 10:36:29 PM
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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
The ad rule and yours are entirely different. The banning of casino sponsors for those celebrities and athletes are limiting their potential income. Especially to those athletes that are very known. But this is just limited to a certain area but still a decrease of sponsor is also decrease in profit for them.
Let's go to that rule you've said, well, a kid would just simply check that box without any prove that he's 18 or above, that easy.

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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.

What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

That seems extremely arbitrary to me. Who is to say which stars appeal to children and which ones do not? If the famous footballer, Cristiano Ronaldo is considered a child favorite star, even though like 98% of his fans are adults, then what about any stars in movies or shows? Children watch tv too.


It is, but I believe it would be safe to say that the biggest sports celebrities like Ronaldo, or Lebron James have the kind of "star appeal" that appeals to minors. Young people idolize them to the point that they sometimes become a role model.

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I like that there is more concern about gambling and keeping children away from habits which can be harmful to their development, but in this case, it would rather seem like they are just using children as an excuse to give themselves dicator-like power over gambling casinos.

Or is there a list of "forbidden stars"?


I believe not. Because they do have a point. There was also the same kind of prohibition in how to advertise cigarette brands which was very effective in lowering smoking rates in young people.

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I believe not. Because they do have a point. There was also the same kind of prohibition in how to advertise cigarette brands which was very effective in lowering smoking rates in young people.

Perhaps you have a point there. By banning smoking advertisements the tobacco industry did in fact get hit by a large toll that they were not expecting and the young people did start smoking less. But that might just be a subjective view of the banning ads sitation, which might not be applicable to the gambling world. Gambling, while harmful to your mental health and wallet, might not be seen as great of a danger to merit a full advertising ban.

And if the ban is only partial, not a full ban. I think they will find new ways to go around it. So how effective can it possibly be?

The arbitrary nature of the ban is what makes me think its more of strategic move by regulators rather than by concerned parents.

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April 17, 2022, 12:18:24 PM
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I think its the influence of the celebrities that they are trying to lessen the effect. Kids will always learn gambling from peers no matter how we prevent that from happening, eventually they'd find their way to wager something but its still good to have such law. Fans do buy what the celebrities promote.
We often see fans doing what celebrities do regardless of whether it's good or bad.
Besides the curiosity factor, fans see it's something cool if they can follow their idols so we can see a lot of different cases of fans trying to follow their idols.
But kids who often see celebrities plastered on a lot of media or advertisements will get the influence and effect and if it's about gambling, they can ask their peers.
It can have a bad effect because their peers do not necessarily know what they want, so children need the help of their parents or older people.
I agree. If your peers are gambling then there will be a chance that you will gamble as well, especially when you are a kid, that is the sort of way you get into "bad" things. Not that gambling is bad, but when you are 13 years old, you shouldn't do that for sure, when you are 33, nobody will care. However, celebs actually promoting is still bad, it is worse than peers.

I mean when your parents tell you that gambling is bad, and it is your peers who do it, you could actually say "maybe my peers could be wrong", but when it is a celeb that does the same thing you could say "how would my parents know, this huge celeb does it! it must be right!" and that is the scary part.
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I think its the influence of the celebrities that they are trying to lessen the effect. Kids will always learn gambling from peers no matter how we prevent that from happening, eventually they'd find their way to wager something but its still good to have such law. Fans do buy what the celebrities promote.
We often see fans doing what celebrities do regardless of whether it's good or bad.
Besides the curiosity factor, fans see it's something cool if they can follow their idols so we can see a lot of different cases of fans trying to follow their idols.
But kids who often see celebrities plastered on a lot of media or advertisements will get the influence and effect and if it's about gambling, they can ask their peers.
It can have a bad effect because their peers do not necessarily know what they want, so children need the help of their parents or older people.
I agree. If your peers are gambling then there will be a chance that you will gamble as well, especially when you are a kid, that is the sort of way you get into "bad" things. Not that gambling is bad, but when you are 13 years old, you shouldn't do that for sure, when you are 33, nobody will care. However, celebs actually promoting is still bad, it is worse than peers.

I mean when your parents tell you that gambling is bad, and it is your peers who do it, you could actually say "maybe my peers could be wrong", but when it is a celeb that does the same thing you could say "how would my parents know, this huge celeb does it! it must be right!" and that is the scary part.

Everyone is chasing money these days, there used to be a shred more dignity and integrity, it just seems like there are so many options for gambling companies that they will simply move on to the next "A/B/C list" celebrity until they get someone who will bend to their will or wallet. I would say that it is more the fault of regulators in every country who often seem so overwhelmed that they simply give up enforcing the law, or take such a long time to fine one person in order to settle an example, it actually has the same effect as zero regulation. More governments need to introduce percentage of total wealth fines instead of tiny fixed amounts which often become meaningless figures to multi-millionaires.

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Each country has its own rules to ban such commercials. Yet most organizations and governments seem completely uninterested in such bans, as it takes way too much time to implement them. I've seen the example in the Netherlands, where gambling commercials will soon be completely banned on TV and also in stadiums if I'm not mistaken. If you have a well-known personality in an advertisement, often ex professional footballers, that naturally comes across as much more powerful for new customers and also for trust.

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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
need more security to be able to detect whether the player is over 18 years old or not and KYC alone is not enough because the child may use someone else's identity to be accepted as playing on the gambling site. but as far as I know, until now the most effective way (to be able to know the age of a player accurately) has yet to be found.

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April 17, 2022, 09:31:19 PM
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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
need more security to be able to detect whether the player is over 18 years old or not and KYC alone is not enough because the child may use someone else's identity to be accepted as playing on the gambling site. but as far as I know, until now the most effective way (to be able to know the age of a player accurately) has yet to be found.
Most of the time. kids get their account made by themselves and they are smart enough to answer some basic questions like age and other details.
But that is a good point - celebrities not endorsing gambling since it will create very negative affects on kids.

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April 17, 2022, 10:39:03 PM
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Each country has its own rules to ban such commercials. Yet most organizations and governments seem completely uninterested in such bans, as it takes way too much time to implement them. I've seen the example in the Netherlands, where gambling commercials will soon be completely banned on TV and also in stadiums if I'm not mistaken. If you have a well-known personality in an advertisement, often ex professional footballers, that naturally comes across as much more powerful for new customers and also for trust.

In my opinion, the Netherlands is doing very well. Blocking only celebrities and sports stars so that they do not advertise gambling, in my opinion, will not help. Of course, this may limit the advertising power to some extent, but if children have access to this type of advertising anyway, the risk will always be there. In my opinion, only a complete ban can help.

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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
need more security to be able to detect whether the player is over 18 years old or not and KYC alone is not enough because the child may use someone else's identity to be accepted as playing on the gambling site. but as far as I know, until now the most effective way (to be able to know the age of a player accurately) has yet to be found.
The most effective way of identity verification is yet to be found, which is true and this lets anyone to be into gambling unlike the age. Every country will have the national ID which can be used for verification with the usage of biometric scanner. Here the data of people need to be shared by the government, then it can be cross checked and only the proper aged person can be allowed.

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April 17, 2022, 10:56:00 PM
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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
need more security to be able to detect whether the player is over 18 years old or not and KYC alone is not enough because the child may use someone else's identity to be accepted as playing on the gambling site. but as far as I know, until now the most effective way (to be able to know the age of a player accurately) has yet to be found.
The most effective way of identity verification is yet to be found, which is true and this lets anyone to be into gambling unlike the age. Every country will have the national ID which can be used for verification with the usage of biometric scanner. Here the data of people need to be shared by the government, then it can be cross checked and only the proper aged person can be allowed.

This type of protection is effective where KYC verification is required. Let's not forget that there are still a lot of completely anonymous casinos in the world of cryptocurrencies.
What is discussed in this thread is security on a completely different level, i.e. a ban on advertising gambling, thanks to which minors can avoid being persuaded to use casinos at all.
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April 17, 2022, 11:57:02 PM
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Each country has its own rules to ban such commercials. Yet most organizations and governments seem completely uninterested in such bans, as it takes way too much time to implement them. I've seen the example in the Netherlands, where gambling commercials will soon be completely banned on TV and also in stadiums if I'm not mistaken. If you have a well-known personality in an advertisement, often ex professional footballers, that naturally comes across as much more powerful for new customers and also for trust.

In my opinion, the Netherlands is doing very well. Blocking only celebrities and sports stars so that they do not advertise gambling, in my opinion, will not help. Of course, this may limit the advertising power to some extent, but if children have access to this type of advertising anyway, the risk will always be there. In my opinion, only a complete ban can help.

Even if it is not there, there's always a risk of children playing on a gambling site children learned the concept of gaming when they are in the gaming stage it will just enhance the attraction when they saw their favorite celebrities promoting them, the best solution is for parents to be aware of their children's attitude in gambling, it's not about restriction it's more of education.


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April 18, 2022, 05:44:10 AM
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This is even a fair rule if implemented properly because Legit casinos will follow this  rules but what about those fakers and scammers? surely they will keep using artist and celebrities behind their back just to lure Players.
best if the strict implementation will be on both ways, and also who will run this rules? and how big will be the covered areas? only Europe? what about other continent that also has this same problem, best to let the world has this and maybe we will save more young people to become addicted.









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April 18, 2022, 05:50:32 AM
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Even if it is not there, there's always a risk of children playing on a gambling site children learned the concept of gaming when they are in the gaming stage it will just enhance the attraction when they saw their favorite celebrities promoting them, the best solution is for parents to be aware of their children's attitude in gambling, it's not about restriction it's more of education.
I agree. If the parents are educating their children and explaining the risk of gambling, then they will understand and remember what was taught to them when they see in the internet the ads about gambling. A kid who obey his/her parents and has discipline cant be lure to gamble because they know its not appropriate for them to do so. On the other side, banning celebs and sports stars are a good move to prevent the youth for trying to play just because they idolize who advertise the particular site, because their presence can influence them.

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I think its the influence of the celebrities that they are trying to lessen the effect. Kids will always learn gambling from peers no matter how we prevent that from happening, eventually they'd find their way to wager something but its still good to have such law. Fans do buy what the celebrities promote.
We often see fans doing what celebrities do regardless of whether it's good or bad.
Besides the curiosity factor, fans see it's something cool if they can follow their idols so we can see a lot of different cases of fans trying to follow their idols.
But kids who often see celebrities plastered on a lot of media or advertisements will get the influence and effect and if it's about gambling, they can ask their peers.
It can have a bad effect because their peers do not necessarily know what they want, so children need the help of their parents or older people.
I agree. If your peers are gambling then there will be a chance that you will gamble as well, especially when you are a kid, that is the sort of way you get into "bad" things. Not that gambling is bad, but when you are 13 years old, you shouldn't do that for sure, when you are 33, nobody will care. However, celebs actually promoting is still bad, it is worse than peers.

I mean when your parents tell you that gambling is bad, and it is your peers who do it, you could actually say "maybe my peers could be wrong", but when it is a celeb that does the same thing you could say "how would my parents know, this huge celeb does it! it must be right!" and that is the scary part.

Kids usually follow thier peers and and if any kid friend is playing gambling, its hard for that kid to avoid gambling. However if the parents are strict, only then the children can be stooped from gambling.
Apart from this, it is a good initiave that kids will not be shown in gambling ads. Atleast kids wont be tempted to gamblie after seeing such ads. However, i will emphasize a lot depends on the parents on how they discourage thier children from playing gamblng.

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Each country has its own rules to ban such commercials. Yet most organizations and governments seem completely uninterested in such bans, as it takes way too much time to implement them. I've seen the example in the Netherlands, where gambling commercials will soon be completely banned on TV and also in stadiums if I'm not mistaken. If you have a well-known personality in an advertisement, often ex professional footballers, that naturally comes across as much more powerful for new customers and also for trust.

In my opinion, the Netherlands is doing very well. Blocking only celebrities and sports stars so that they do not advertise gambling, in my opinion, will not help. Of course, this may limit the advertising power to some extent, but if children have access to this type of advertising anyway, the risk will always be there. In my opinion, only a complete ban can help.

Even if it is not there, there's always a risk of children playing on a gambling site children learned the concept of gaming when they are in the gaming stage it will just enhance the attraction when they saw their favorite celebrities promoting them, the best solution is for parents to be aware of their children's attitude in gambling, it's not about restriction it's more of education.

After all, I am not saying that simply banning gambling advertising entirely will completely solve the problem of access for children. Of course, parents should try control this and also try to educate them. It's just that both of these things are the best solution at same time.

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I believe not. Because they do have a point. There was also the same kind of prohibition in how to advertise cigarette brands which was very effective in lowering smoking rates in young people.

Perhaps you have a point there. By banning smoking advertisements the tobacco industry did in fact get hit by a large toll that they were not expecting and the young people did start smoking less. But that might just be a subjective view of the banning ads sitation, which might not be applicable to the gambling world. Gambling, while harmful to your mental health and wallet, might not be seen as great of a danger to merit a full advertising ban.


I don't know where you're from, because as I know it, gambling ads are freely shown during football games, and other sporting events in the United Kingdom. That's why they don't want celebrities and sports stars in advertisements connected to casinos and gambling.

I believe gambling ads are even banned entirely in some countries.

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And if the ban is only partial, not a full ban. I think they will find new ways to go around it. So how effective can it possibly be?


That's another debate. But they will be fined or have their licenses revoked if they are caught doing that.

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The arbitrary nature of the ban is what makes me think its more of strategic move by regulators rather than by concerned parents.


It's only arbitrary because there are so many sports stars and celebrities for the regulators to choose from. But the intent of the rule is clear in my opinion.

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April 18, 2022, 08:33:19 AM
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I believe not. Because they do have a point. There was also the same kind of prohibition in how to advertise cigarette brands which was very effective in lowering smoking rates in young people.

Perhaps you have a point there. By banning smoking advertisements the tobacco industry did in fact get hit by a large toll that they were not expecting and the young people did start smoking less. But that might just be a subjective view of the banning ads sitation, which might not be applicable to the gambling world. Gambling, while harmful to your mental health and wallet, might not be seen as great of a danger to merit a full advertising ban.


I don't know where you're from, because as I know it, gambling ads are freely shown during football games, and other sporting events in the United Kingdom. That's why they don't want celebrities and sports stars in advertisements connected to casinos and gambling.

I believe gambling ads are even banned entirely in some countries.


As far as I know, the number of countries where advertising gambling is completely prohibited is quite long.
I think the restrictions that are being introduced in England are just a step towards getting Britain on this list as well. I think that the government of UK, due to the fact that the gambling industry there is huge, wants to introduce such restrictions gradually so as not to provoke too much protests from bookmakers.
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I believe not. Because they do have a point. There was also the same kind of prohibition in how to advertise cigarette brands which was very effective in lowering smoking rates in young people.

Perhaps you have a point there. By banning smoking advertisements the tobacco industry did in fact get hit by a large toll that they were not expecting and the young people did start smoking less. But that might just be a subjective view of the banning ads sitation, which might not be applicable to the gambling world. Gambling, while harmful to your mental health and wallet, might not be seen as great of a danger to merit a full advertising ban.


I don't know where you're from, because as I know it, gambling ads are freely shown during football games, and other sporting events in the United Kingdom. That's why they don't want celebrities and sports stars in advertisements connected to casinos and gambling.

I believe gambling ads are even banned entirely in some countries.


As far as I know, the number of countries where advertising gambling is completely prohibited is quite long.
I think the restrictions that are being introduced in England are just a step towards getting Britain on this list as well. I think that the government of UK, due to the fact that the gambling industry there is huge, wants to introduce such restrictions gradually so as not to provoke too much protests from bookmakers.

So eventually they'll ban gambling? Is that what you are trying to imply?

IMO, the government just doesn't want to promote gambling so people will not easily get attracted, the thing is, those who are in the low earners' bracket are usually the ones who gamble more and some of them are irresponsible and cause life destruction, in the end, it cannot be blamed on gambling sites but government have their own rules in minimizing the problem.

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Each country has its own rules to ban such commercials. Yet most organizations and governments seem completely uninterested in such bans, as it takes way too much time to implement them. I've seen the example in the Netherlands, where gambling commercials will soon be completely banned on TV and also in stadiums if I'm not mistaken. If you have a well-known personality in an advertisement, often ex professional footballers, that naturally comes across as much more powerful for new customers and also for trust.

In my opinion, the Netherlands is doing very well. Blocking only celebrities and sports stars so that they do not advertise gambling, in my opinion, will not help. Of course, this may limit the advertising power to some extent, but if children have access to this type of advertising anyway, the risk will always be there. In my opinion, only a complete ban can help.

Even if it is not there, there's always a risk of children playing on a gambling site children learned the concept of gaming when they are in the gaming stage it will just enhance the attraction when they saw their favorite celebrities promoting them, the best solution is for parents to be aware of their children's attitude in gambling, it's not about restriction it's more of education.
Usually children have favorite celebrities and they will allow what celebrities promoting and actually with gambling, I think here most important with parent controlling how keep away their children from gambling world and not good thing begin gambling under 18 years old. Exactly when getting money from their parent so better keep study and take focus how grow up without have gambling on their mind. I think they can leave several celebrities favorite if try to advertise with gambling platform.
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I believe not. Because they do have a point. There was also the same kind of prohibition in how to advertise cigarette brands which was very effective in lowering smoking rates in young people.

Perhaps you have a point there. By banning smoking advertisements the tobacco industry did in fact get hit by a large toll that they were not expecting and the young people did start smoking less. But that might just be a subjective view of the banning ads sitation, which might not be applicable to the gambling world. Gambling, while harmful to your mental health and wallet, might not be seen as great of a danger to merit a full advertising ban.


I don't know where you're from, because as I know it, gambling ads are freely shown during football games, and other sporting events in the United Kingdom. That's why they don't want celebrities and sports stars in advertisements connected to casinos and gambling.

I believe gambling ads are even banned entirely in some countries.


As far as I know, the number of countries where advertising gambling is completely prohibited is quite long.
I think the restrictions that are being introduced in England are just a step towards getting Britain on this list as well. I think that the government of UK, due to the fact that the gambling industry there is huge, wants to introduce such restrictions gradually so as not to provoke too much protests from bookmakers.

So eventually they'll ban gambling? Is that what you are trying to imply?

IMO, the government just doesn't want to promote gambling so people will not easily get attracted, the thing is, those who are in the low earners' bracket are usually the ones who gamble more and some of them are irresponsible and cause life destruction, in the end, it cannot be blamed on gambling sites but government have their own rules in minimizing the problem.

I did not say that the government wants to ban gambling, but that the restrictions it introduces, i.e. in this case banning celebrities and sports stars for advertising, are a step towards banning gambling advertising.
Gambling is too profitable for the state budget to be completely banned.
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So eventually they'll ban gambling? Is that what you are trying to imply?

IMO, the government just doesn't want to promote gambling so people will not easily get attracted, the thing is, those who are in the low earners' bracket are usually the ones who gamble more and some of them are irresponsible and cause life destruction, in the end, it cannot be blamed on gambling sites but government have their own rules in minimizing the problem.
I don't the government is trying to ban gambling but they are  trying to prevent the influence from the use of football celebrities to attract children and youth in getting into gambling. The aim of this is to reduce gambling addicted that had been so rampard on upcoming youths. This law enforcement will help to reduce the effects of gambling ads, promotion of gambling platforms on children and youths using their favorite stars and legends.

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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.


What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

this goes to what territory ?is this in Europe ? or somewhere online? because I don't think it is applicable in our country as we are having a very weak Laws towards gambling as our government only seeking for taxation and for their collection caring nothing about gamblers all the way.

but this most to be? if the parents will help looking about their children not to brag in any sort of gambling activities .

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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.


What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

this goes to what territory ?is this in Europe ?

If you opened the article and read at least an part of text, you would know that it is about England.

or somewhere online?

Really? Internet law already created? or maybe also the courts and the police?

because I don't think it is applicable in our country as we are having a very weak Laws towards gambling as our government only seeking for taxation and for their collection caring nothing about gamblers all the way.

but this most to be? if the parents will help looking about their children not to brag in any sort of gambling activities .

This article only ban the employment of celebrities and sport stars in gambling advertising.


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April 18, 2022, 11:10:33 AM
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So eventually they'll ban gambling? Is that what you are trying to imply?

IMO, the government just doesn't want to promote gambling so people will not easily get attracted, the thing is, those who are in the low earners' bracket are usually the ones who gamble more and some of them are irresponsible and cause life destruction, in the end, it cannot be blamed on gambling sites but government have their own rules in minimizing the problem.
I don't the government is trying to ban gambling but they are  trying to prevent the influence from the use of football celebrities to attract children and youth in getting into gambling. The aim of this is to reduce gambling addicted that had been so rampard on upcoming youths. This law enforcement will help to reduce the effects of gambling ads, promotion of gambling platforms on children and youths using their favorite stars and legends.
Have rule with several countries not allowed for advertising gambling platform and they have been restrict as not allowed content for publishing and advertising to public. Majority with moslem country not allowed with gambling advertising and this effective with children can't play gambling and do not know what is gambling platform.  But when pass adult they have choose for active or not on gambling platform depending with their skill understand or not with gambling games play.
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I believe not. Because they do have a point. There was also the same kind of prohibition in how to advertise cigarette brands which was very effective in lowering smoking rates in young people.

Perhaps you have a point there. By banning smoking advertisements the tobacco industry did in fact get hit by a large toll that they were not expecting and the young people did start smoking less. But that might just be a subjective view of the banning ads sitation, which might not be applicable to the gambling world. Gambling, while harmful to your mental health and wallet, might not be seen as great of a danger to merit a full advertising ban.


I don't know where you're from, because as I know it, gambling ads are freely shown during football games, and other sporting events in the United Kingdom. That's why they don't want celebrities and sports stars in advertisements connected to casinos and gambling.

I believe gambling ads are even banned entirely in some countries.


As far as I know, the number of countries where advertising gambling is completely prohibited is quite long.
I think the restrictions that are being introduced in England are just a step towards getting Britain on this list as well. I think that the government of UK, due to the fact that the gambling industry there is huge, wants to introduce such restrictions gradually so as not to provoke too much protests from bookmakers.

So eventually they'll ban gambling? Is that what you are trying to imply?

IMO, the government just doesn't want to promote gambling so people will not easily get attracted, the thing is, those who are in the low earners' bracket are usually the ones who gamble more and some of them are irresponsible and cause life destruction, in the end, it cannot be blamed on gambling sites but government have their own rules in minimizing the problem.

I did not say that the government wants to ban gambling, but that the restrictions it introduces, i.e. in this case banning celebrities and sports stars for advertising, are a step towards banning gambling advertising.
Gambling is too profitable for the state budget to be completely banned.

You guys don't really understand that it is not really about "banning", it never was. It is all about control. The government wants to have as much control as they can, especially over things which they consider to be harmful to a certain group of people, for example, in this case, children.

Putting such arbitrary restrictions over online casino gambling advertisments is just one way to have more freedom over what they control while making it seem like they are putting down iron-clad rules with boundaries.

I doubt they want to protect children from gambling addiction even though they make it seem that way...

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So eventually they'll ban gambling? Is that what you are trying to imply?

IMO, the government just doesn't want to promote gambling so people will not easily get attracted, the thing is, those who are in the low earners' bracket are usually the ones who gamble more and some of them are irresponsible and cause life destruction, in the end, it cannot be blamed on gambling sites but government have their own rules in minimizing the problem.
I don't the government is trying to ban gambling but they are  trying to prevent the influence from the use of football celebrities to attract children and youth in getting into gambling. The aim of this is to reduce gambling addicted that had been so rampard on upcoming youths. This law enforcement will help to reduce the effects of gambling ads, promotion of gambling platforms on children and youths using their favorite stars and legends.
Have rule with several countries not allowed for advertising gambling platform and they have been restrict as not allowed content for publishing and advertising to public. Majority with moslem country not allowed with gambling advertising and this effective with children can't play gambling and do not know what is gambling platform.  But when pass adult they have choose for active or not on gambling platform depending with their skill understand or not with gambling games play.
Each country does really differ on various ways whether it would be totally depending on governance or would be totally in relation or related with Religion thats why people neither could engage with

gambling or not and its indeed depending on several factors.If this one would be global then this would really be hindering celebs on attaching themselves on gambling or even on other stars.
This is some really a loss of income or extra money that they could really get but for on casino part then this do cut off on the chances on having more exposure because of this prohibition.

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This is even a fair rule if implemented properly because Legit casinos will follow this  rules but what about those fakers and scammers? surely they will keep using artist and celebrities behind their back just to lure Players.
not all gambling sites are scams that use artists or celebrities, many are legit that use artists for marketing such as stake

Artists and celebrities are public figures who certainly have underage fans, the thing to worry about is that minors who are fans of the artist will follow the artist's habit (gambling) if the gambling site uses artists as endorsers

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April 18, 2022, 04:11:53 PM
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This is even a fair rule if implemented properly because Legit casinos will follow this  rules but what about those fakers and scammers? surely they will keep using artist and celebrities behind their back just to lure Players.
not all gambling sites are scams that use artists or celebrities, many are legit that use artists for marketing such as stake

Artists and celebrities are public figures who certainly have underage fans, the thing to worry about is that minors who are fans of the artist will follow the artist's habit (gambling) if the gambling site uses artists as endorsers

You misunderstood his message. I think he is telling about scam casino that uses celebrities illegally like using the photos of them  without the consent of the celebrity.

This is very common especially in local forums where users doesn't even bother to google the information they get from the casinos. People will fall for this type of advertisement particularly those who are not really into crypto for they are not savvy enough. But this is different because obviously scam casinos will do sketchy ways, the ban is for the casinos that are registered and licensed.


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April 18, 2022, 05:19:22 PM
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This is even a fair rule if implemented properly because Legit casinos will follow this  rules but what about those fakers and scammers? surely they will keep using artist and celebrities behind their back just to lure Players.
not all gambling sites are scams that use artists or celebrities, many are legit that use artists for marketing such as stake

Artists and celebrities are public figures who certainly have underage fans, the thing to worry about is that minors who are fans of the artist will follow the artist's habit (gambling) if the gambling site uses artists as endorsers

You misunderstood his message. I think he is telling about scam casino that uses celebrities illegally like using the photos of them  without the consent of the celebrity.

This is very common especially in local forums where users doesn't even bother to google the information they get from the casinos. People will fall for this type of advertisement particularly those who are not really into crypto for they are not savvy enough. But this is different because obviously scam casinos will do sketchy ways, the ban is for the casinos that are registered and licensed.

If you dont make out some research then most likely you would really ending up on being scammed because  scammers would really be finding ways just for people to make out some deposits but once you
do already have some experience then you would really be able to be aware on next time.So this one actually works for noobs or first timers.
On everything then it is really needing up some verification or some search before you do make out some further step.

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April 18, 2022, 05:48:56 PM
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If you dont make out some research then most likely you would really ending up on being scammed because  scammers would really be finding ways just for people to make out some deposits but once you
do already have some experience then you would really be able to be aware on next time.So this one actually works for noobs or first timers.
On everything then it is really needing up some verification or some search before you do make out some further step.

Precisely experienced gamblers will not just deposit without doing further research, though it will work with newbies and those who are greed who don't do any research but just simply jumped in with the influence of their favorite artist, unknowingly know that the image or anything that related to the person is simply being edited and use for scamming.

It's the gambler's obligation to make a thorough investigation before sending their money to any gambling sites. In some cases, even known businesses are also being used by scammers using almost duplicate images and links to sucked players' money.

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In my opinion, limiting the advertising of gambling that targets children is a very good decision.
However, I am very curious to see how well-known athletes will be distinguished from those less known who will be able to take part in such advertisements. Will they judge it by the number of followers on Twitter or Instagram?

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Children shouldn't be gambling anyways no matter who appears in the advertisements. If they do, the question to why that is happening should be directed to their parents and guardians. Fiat casinos don't allow anyone to register and gamble unless they go through KYC verification. Crypto platforms are different, but again, it's the parent's responsibility to know what their children are up to.

This only affects the UK market and unless similar rules get implemented elsewhere, celebrities will continue to promote casinos and sportsbooks outside of UK's borders.

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April 18, 2022, 07:33:47 PM
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Children shouldn't be gambling anyways no matter who appears in the advertisements. If they do, the question to why that is happening should be directed to their parents and guardians. Fiat casinos don't allow anyone to register and gamble unless they go through KYC verification. Crypto platforms are different, but again, it's the parent's responsibility to know what their children are up to.

This only affects the UK market and unless similar rules get implemented elsewhere, celebrities will continue to promote casinos and sportsbooks outside of UK's borders.

Agree that the primary responsibility lies with the parents hands, but the adverts in which children's idols advertise gambling do not help them at all. This restriction will surely make the parents' task easier.

As for advertising gambling in other countries, as far as I know, it is totally banned in many, and it looks like the UK is going the same way.

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April 18, 2022, 07:48:43 PM
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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
need more security to be able to detect whether the player is over 18 years old or not and KYC alone is not enough because the child may use someone else's identity to be accepted as playing on the gambling site. but as far as I know, until now the most effective way (to be able to know the age of a player accurately) has yet to be found.
Did the one that invent that phrase realize that it can be easily bypassed by anyone else? Did they think that people are too honest to not proceed if they are below 18 years old but adding a KYC can make it more effective.

I don't think a child will have the knowledge to use someone else I.D or pass the KYC process because there are forms that needs to be filled up and they are sometimes hard. Even me that I am already an adult is having hard time dealing with it, how much if they are just a child? And lastly KYC nowadays needs a live selfie so tell me how can someone bypass it? Unfortunately there are still crypto casinos that don't deal with KYC, so underage people can still gamble with them.
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Children shouldn't be gambling anyways no matter who appears in the advertisements. If they do, the question to why that is happening should be directed to their parents and guardians. Fiat casinos don't allow anyone to register and gamble unless they go through KYC verification. Crypto platforms are different, but again, it's the parent's responsibility to know what their children are up to.

This only affects the UK market and unless similar rules get implemented elsewhere, celebrities will continue to promote casinos and sportsbooks outside of UK's borders.

Agree that the primary responsibility lies with the parents hands, but the adverts in which children's idols advertise gambling do not help them at all. This restriction will surely make the parents' task easier.

As for advertising gambling in other countries, as far as I know, it is totally banned in many, and it looks like the UK is going the same way.

Parents or guardians have limitations when it comes to guiding their children.
As they can't be present 24/7, their children will be exposed to some adverts that they will get interested of.
And if they see their idols promoting a specific site, don't you think, they will be curious also?
But if they have basic principles on the right thing to do, like for example, how they are raised when it comes to the topic of gambling?
They may have the notion no to go to that path, but sometimes curiosity will make them try out new things.
Every parent should instill the importance of being responsible to oneself even if the parents are not looking at them.
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Children shouldn't be gambling anyways no matter who appears in the advertisements. If they do, the question to why that is happening should be directed to their parents and guardians. Fiat casinos don't allow anyone to register and gamble unless they go through KYC verification. Crypto platforms are different, but again, it's the parent's responsibility to know what their children are up to.

This only affects the UK market and unless similar rules get implemented elsewhere, celebrities will continue to promote casinos and sportsbooks outside of UK's borders.

Agree that the primary responsibility lies with the parents hands, but the adverts in which children's idols advertise gambling do not help them at all. This restriction will surely make the parents' task easier.

As for advertising gambling in other countries, as far as I know, it is totally banned in many, and it looks like the UK is going the same way.

Parents or guardians have limitations when it comes to guiding their children.
As they can't be present 24/7, their children will be exposed to some adverts that they will get interested of.
And if they see their idols promoting a specific site, don't you think, they will be curious also?
But if they have basic principles on the right thing to do, like for example, how they are raised when it comes to the topic of gambling?
They may have the notion no to go to that path, but sometimes curiosity will make them try out new things.
Every parent should instill the importance of being responsible to oneself even if the parents are not looking at them.

I understand that you agree that advertising for gambling should be limited or even banned.
However I don't really understand, how do you think parents would otherwise control their child's access to gambling?
Do you mean that parents should educate their children about gambling themselves before they find out about it from other sources?

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April 18, 2022, 11:53:18 PM
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If you dont make out some research then most likely you would really ending up on being scammed because  scammers would really be finding ways just for people to make out some deposits but once you
do already have some experience then you would really be able to be aware on next time.So this one actually works for noobs or first timers.
On everything then it is really needing up some verification or some search before you do make out some further step.

Precisely experienced gamblers will not just deposit without doing further research, though it will work with newbies and those who are greed who don't do any research but just simply jumped in with the influence of their favorite artist, unknowingly know that the image or anything that related to the person is simply being edited and use for scamming.

It's the gambler's obligation to make a thorough investigation before sending their money to any gambling sites. In some cases, even known businesses are also being used by scammers using almost duplicate images and links to sucked players' money.
In most cases, people do only learn or do make use of their common sense if its already too late which is something that really very common scenario.Its true that there are lots of scams around which we do make
ourselves to be bit more vigilant and be attentive for possible scams and frauds by just making use of our own common sense.IF you do find out somethings off or does really make you hindered
then you could really simply make out some research and doing such thing wont cost you an arm and leg.

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April 19, 2022, 06:18:11 AM
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I understand that you agree that advertising for gambling should be limited or even banned.
However I don't really understand, how do you think parents would otherwise control their child's access to gambling?
I do not agree with TimeTeller opinion, that children should be educated for everything related to their own world and should not be brought up on the topic of gambling, parents should control their children and limit their time playing gadgets because there are many bad effects for children.

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Do you mean that parents should educate their children about gambling themselves before they find out about it from other sources?
Of course not, parents must provide good education not to engage in gambling and betting based games, we must raise children in a good, knowledgeable and intelligent environment.

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April 19, 2022, 06:55:15 AM
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Did the one that invent that phrase realize that it can be easily bypassed by anyone else? Did they think that people are too honest to not proceed if they are below 18 years old but adding a KYC can make it more effective.

I don't think a child will have the knowledge to use someone else I.D or pass the KYC process because there are forms that needs to be filled up and they are sometimes hard. Even me that I am already an adult is having hard time dealing with it, how much if they are just a child? And lastly KYC nowadays needs a live selfie so tell me how can someone bypass it? Unfortunately there are still crypto casinos that don't deal with KYC, so underage people can still gamble with them.
Possibility for children manipulated KYC document with several issues right now many tread actually have service for paying KYC process, easy for children under 18 years old passing KYC by looking other document people and ask them for verifying their account and have to pay several dollar. Every time on other forum have some person selling service help your problem with KYC process but depending how long children have been on gambling platform they will know how to pass KYC on several gambling network.
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I think they should also add a new rule about gambling sites to strengthen their security towards younger or underage players and for me checking the box that says "Are you 18 years old and above?" is not enough as a security check.
need more security to be able to detect whether the player is over 18 years old or not and KYC alone is not enough because the child may use someone else's identity to be accepted as playing on the gambling site. but as far as I know, until now the most effective way (to be able to know the age of a player accurately) has yet to be found.
The most effective way of identity verification is yet to be found, which is true and this lets anyone to be into gambling unlike the age. Every country will have the national ID which can be used for verification with the usage of biometric scanner. Here the data of people need to be shared by the government, then it can be cross checked and only the proper aged person can be allowed.
But the thing is ? would this be abused ? or cheated ? we know how crocks can do anything just to Bypass everything favoring their objectives .
and that is the reason why most gambling sites requiring KYC to at least lessen the abusing , and also this rules will  be implemented because of the time being that the gambling industry are targeting new players and also younger generation.
gamble at your own cost but never allow the young to do the same,
they are vulnerable and they are always the loser.

not all gambling sites are scams that use artists or celebrities, many are legit that use artists for marketing such as stake


You misunderstood his message. I think he is telling about scam casino that uses celebrities illegally like using the photos of them  without the consent of the celebrity.

Yeah there is a  misunderstanding on that part, because as same as i understand the post, it is about those who will use the celebrities without their consent .

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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.

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Given their fame and the amount of influence these guys have, I partly agree that they shouldn't partake in any activity promoting and advertising gambling. Though their target market is obviously the adults which can gamble, there is no way that they can control what the youngsters can see online or in the TV. Most of the time when young people see their idols advertise something, they tend to want it, or copy whatever it is that their idol is doing because they think it can make them look cool. Then again it's really a controversial law because it only targets the gambling sector and not other sectors which may also have a negative effect on the young population (liquors, tobacco-based stuff, etc.)

I very much agree with your opinion, in fact games of chance, sports companies around the world have as their main measure to accept adults, from 18 years of age you are an adult in my country, I do not know if they differ from other countries that the age of majority begins at 21.

For me the biggest of all the problems is that they are attacking the business model under which casinos and sports betting are also supported and it is through influencers, some athletes are influencers without them proposing it, just imagine a Messi or a CR7 on a casino platform that will attract almost all players, so I think the point is a bit tricky, it is to speculate on a business model that is developing much more currently.

Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
Yes. I understand what you mean, normally the countries that have prohibited gambling and everything related to casinos usually do that kind of thing, but the business model is so good that it is very difficult to get rid of everything, it is because of them that in Sometimes they don't say bets, but they change it to "you can win" or simply in some type of advertising they can say that there are options to earn money thinking, and that's how you enter, I know because I live in a country that for a long time was Gambling was prohibited and that was the way to enter some sites and operate without saying the words like "gambling".

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I very much agree with your opinion, in fact games of chance, sports companies around the world have as their main measure to accept adults, from 18 years of age you are an adult in my country, I do not know if they differ from other countries that the age of majority begins at 21.

For me the biggest of all the problems is that they are attacking the business model under which casinos and sports betting are also supported and it is through influencers, some athletes are influencers without them proposing it, just imagine a Messi or a CR7 on a casino platform that will attract almost all players, so I think the point is a bit tricky, it is to speculate on a business model that is developing much more currently.
All gambling casino platform have term or service allowed for adult and not prohibited for children created account, but not effective when have several gambling platform not using KYC for beginning gambling. Free for children or gambler under 18 years old active on several gambling site trough deposit by cryptocurrency, maybe have different thing when deposit fund for gambling casino account by fiat because children can't created bank account if still under 18 years old or without have ID card.
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Previously gambling sites and gambling company only look into the fiat investment and fiat withdraw. But after the reach of crytocurrency to next level, it was a quite enough to the involving of crytocurrency as the mode of playing and withdrawn. The important one of cryto gambling was, we get more cryto as a winning bet. Then by just holding the coin, we can earn huge from that cryptocurrency.
What are you talking about? have you tried reading the OP for better understanding ?

OP is talking about the abuse of gambling site into luring players that they are using celebrities to lure people even younger generation to follow their Idol and made into gambling.
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April 19, 2022, 12:42:11 PM
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Previously gambling sites and gambling company only look into the fiat investment and fiat withdraw. But after the reach of crytocurrency to next level, it was a quite enough to the involving of crytocurrency as the mode of playing and withdrawn. The important one of cryto gambling was, we get more cryto as a winning bet. Then by just holding the coin, we can earn huge from that cryptocurrency.
What are you talking about? have you tried reading the OP for better understanding ?

OP is talking about the abuse of gambling site into luring players that they are using celebrities to lure people even younger generation to follow their Idol and made into gambling.


try to read OP most if the time so you won't act like in wrong thread posting.
check his post history. you'll notice that he has been posting off-topic posts. you'll also see on meta that there is a thread about the user. I have a feeling that he doesn't really care about the topic and just posting to fill his quota. the best thing to do here is to report his post for being off-topic.

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April 19, 2022, 11:05:22 PM
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All gambling casino platform have term or service allowed for adult and not prohibited for children created account, but not effective when have several gambling platform not using KYC for beginning gambling. Free for children or gambler under 18 years old active on several gambling site trough deposit by cryptocurrency, maybe have different thing when deposit fund for gambling casino account by fiat because children can't created bank account if still under 18 years old or without have ID card.
okay friend, that might be a good decision for us for the standard / minimum age that is allowed, of course this KYC must be above that age. Even though the connection is for personal legality, I have discussed above there are several people who help KYC / sell data adult self for those who have money, although rarely found.
but I've seen this transaction Kyc that is traded and traded, maybe that person just wants to get instant money and doesn't want to participate in any company. Then they try to sell their personal data which is actually a very big risk for him (the seller) it could be an account it may be misused outside of this gambling. How do you respond, friends, for the sake of gambling, there are those who are willing to sell and buy the identity of someone who may still be under the supervision and control of their parents?

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April 19, 2022, 11:31:57 PM
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Previously gambling sites and gambling company only look into the fiat investment and fiat withdraw. But after the reach of crytocurrency to next level, it was a quite enough to the involving of crytocurrency as the mode of playing and withdrawn. The important one of cryto gambling was, we get more cryto as a winning bet. Then by just holding the coin, we can earn huge from that cryptocurrency.
You are trying to say a lame fact. We will win same type of currency. If we deposit and place bet on fiat we will get fiat too if we win and if we deposit cryptocurrency then we will get cryptocurrency for the winnings. So, it is a basic way though several sites convert the cryptocurrency into fiat after making the deposit.
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You guys don't really understand that it is not really about "banning", it never was. It is all about control. The government wants to have as much control as they can, especially over things which they consider to be harmful to a certain group of people, for example, in this case, children.

Putting such arbitrary restrictions over online casino gambling advertisments is just one way to have more freedom over what they control while making it seem like they are putting down iron-clad rules with boundaries.

I doubt they want to protect children from gambling addiction even though they make it seem that way...


The whole point of government is about control, that isn't the debate. It's if the current move by the government is "effective or not". I believe it might be effective.

To truly protect children from early exposure to anything about gambling, would you like it more if the government bans all kinds of advertising coming from casinos and all other kinds of gambling? I believe the government's ban on using celebrities and sports stars is actually a fair compromise.

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April 20, 2022, 12:16:07 PM
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I very much agree with your opinion, in fact games of chance, sports companies around the world have as their main measure to accept adults, from 18 years of age you are an adult in my country, I do not know if they differ from other countries that the age of majority begins at 21.

For me the biggest of all the problems is that they are attacking the business model under which casinos and sports betting are also supported and it is through influencers, some athletes are influencers without them proposing it, just imagine a Messi or a CR7 on a casino platform that will attract almost all players, so I think the point is a bit tricky, it is to speculate on a business model that is developing much more currently.
All gambling casino platform have term or service allowed for adult and not prohibited for children created account, but not effective when have several gambling platform not using KYC for beginning gambling. Free for children or gambler under 18 years old active on several gambling site trough deposit by cryptocurrency, maybe have different thing when deposit fund for gambling casino account by fiat because children can't created bank account if still under 18 years old or without have ID card.

Most the gambling casinos have their terms regarding the age restriction and of course its the player's responsibility to check it but its 2022 guys most of the people don't read the instruction and terms they just created an account and if they meet some trouble they are just checking it, that's why its better if the gambling platforms always makes a notifying the members or the users with this agreements but mostly its just an accept if the user is age 18 above and after that they can proceed now, its ideal they have some child protection.

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April 20, 2022, 06:19:50 PM
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
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April 20, 2022, 07:25:59 PM
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
That's right, because sometimes everything can be handled easily as if you don't violate the rules but play behind your back. This is even an open secret because it is very difficult to regulate this because there are still so many people who play behind the scenes for personal gain.
Quite agree with what you said about the law which will not have much effect in the daily operation of the casino.
Because I think it's very difficult to keep an eye on the various types and the number of casinos that run with only these rules there may be some that are violated although not all are like that but there will always be ones like that

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April 20, 2022, 07:35:04 PM
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
That's right, because sometimes everything can be handled easily as if you don't violate the rules but play behind your back. This is even an open secret because it is very difficult to regulate this because there are still so many people who play behind the scenes for personal gain.
Quite agree with what you said about the law which will not have much effect in the daily operation of the casino.
Because I think it's very difficult to keep an eye on the various types and the number of casinos that run with only these rules there may be some that are violated although not all are like that but there will always be ones like that
Unless if it would be applied on global scale on which there's really a total ban with celebs and sports stars when it comes to collaboration or something in talks with partnership with casino.Then would able to
see that it would really be giving somewhat some slow down of casino exposure and advertisement but we do know that there are several ways on marketing out the business without the need of these people
or popular ones.We cant still totally get rid of it though because these business or this industry is just too big for it to be stopped and also kids could neither be able to engage or not
even they havent seen it into their idols.

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April 20, 2022, 08:37:33 PM
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
Most of the kids indulge themselves in trouble when they are not having a check and balance. Also Celebrates have a role towards society - they have to promote a positive image of the society for the sake of glory and peace. They cannot take any blame on them. In our country we have never seen any actor promoting smoking - which is injurious to health.

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April 21, 2022, 09:52:48 AM
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Despite of the ban, many gambling sites are smart enough to trick the governing bodies.
I don't know about other countries, but in my countries I see many celebrities and sports stars do advertisements for the gambling sites.
And guess what , how the sites are doing this ?
They simply claim that the site is not about gambling, it's a lottery and fantasy platform, for which the celebrities are advertising.
This helps them to promote their gambling site among large scale audience and make huge money.
It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
Trough with gambling site always responsibility with tax payment for the government I think they will keep exist on some countries, I check with my country cases not allowed for football team advertising gambling platform but they can show and promote gabling site without get punishment and gambling platform site close by government. Here most important trough gambling platform still smooth for withdrawing and deposit not any reason for banned gambling platform, what ever kinds is it between casino and sport betting keep exist on several country right now.
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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.



With or without these new rules as long as they are not educating their parents to teach how their children behave towards gambling we will still have a lot of young people gambling, this is not a way to protect children it should be about responsible parenting, the UK is a free commerce country and they deprive some celebrities to make money on a subject that they have no control of.

 True , without parental supervision, underage children will definitely be involved in gambling, even though the lottery class will definitely know gambling, I don't think the ad ban will be 100% of minors don't know gambling,
because the protection and supervision comes from the family environment, not by prohibiting advertising alone,

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There are definately few things left out of here :
 - What would happen to the gambling sites who already have planned and have contract with the celebs endorsing their adverts on TV ( they might have to pull something through for that definitely)
-this would definately decrease the amount of people interested in gambling because of their favorite starts on the television
-This would reduce the amount of kids they attract towards these adverts as well I do think they should try and give them sepcific slots according to the time so that the kids won't be able to get to them as well.
- this episode definately affect the sports starts like the UFC ones because at the end of the day they were getting paid a lot for all the adverts in between.

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It is of course good for trust to have a celebrity promote a gambling site. You get a lot of customers that way. I sometimes wonder what those famous people get for such a commercial, since huge amounts are involved in the gambling world. It's quite difficult to put a ban on that, many countries are not even interested in this kind of thing. The priorities are different there. Countries that have to deal with a gambling commission have become somewhat stricter over the years.

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April 21, 2022, 10:10:12 PM
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The whole point of government is about control, that isn't the debate. It's if the current move by the government is "effective or not". I believe it might be effective.

To truly protect children from early exposure to anything about gambling, would you like it more if the government bans all kinds of advertising coming from casinos and all other kinds of gambling? I believe the government's ban on using celebrities and sports stars is actually a fair compromise.
I agree with you that the point is about to control children being addicted at early age. And I think government become successful in this regards as early ages people will not be able to play/stay away from gambling. Moreover, addiction on gambling at the early age will not increase and it will have to decrease.
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Previously gambling sites and gambling company only look into the fiat investment and fiat withdraw. But after the reach of crytocurrency to next level, it was a quite enough to the involving of crytocurrency as the mode of playing and withdrawn. The important one of cryto gambling was, we get more cryto as a winning bet. Then by just holding the coin, we can earn huge from that cryptocurrency.
You are trying to say a lame fact. We will win same type of currency. If we deposit and place bet on fiat we will get fiat too if we win and if we deposit cryptocurrency then we will get cryptocurrency for the winnings. So, it is a basic way though several sites convert the cryptocurrency into fiat after making the deposit.

There are some gambling websites that offer free exchanges at their disposal where you can quickly convert your cryptocurrencies to fiat; and the other way around.

Do remember that a gambling website that prohibits sports celebrities and sports stars are only adhering to the rule implemented. But I think this sanction should be met in the middle- there has to be some sort of compromise in order to fully accept this kind of regulation. While I do understand that they are trying to protect young kids from being easily influenced in gambling, this not the only way in order to prevent them from gambling, in general.

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April 22, 2022, 05:05:14 AM
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It is of course good for trust to have a celebrity promote a gambling site. You get a lot of customers that way. I sometimes wonder what those famous people get for such a commercial, since huge amounts are involved in the gambling world. It's quite difficult to put a ban on that, many countries are not even interested in this kind of thing. The priorities are different there. Countries that have to deal with a gambling commission have become somewhat stricter over the years.
If a law like this begins to get popular around the world then casinos will have to begin to plan around how to deal with this, after all if a star is big enough then even if a country bans this particular star to promote a casino due to having a lot of popularity with the young, the casino can always use the star for their promotional efforts in other countries and hire a different star with a different profile to promote their casino at that country, so this will require to rewrite the promotional contracts of some stars, but casinos will find a way to deal with this as they always do.

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The whole point of government is about control, that isn't the debate. It's if the current move by the government is "effective or not". I believe it might be effective.

To truly protect children from early exposure to anything about gambling, would you like it more if the government bans all kinds of advertising coming from casinos and all other kinds of gambling? I believe the government's ban on using celebrities and sports stars is actually a fair compromise.
I agree with you that the point is about to control children being addicted at early age. And I think government become successful in this regards as early ages people will not be able to play/stay away from gambling. Moreover, addiction on gambling at the early age will not increase and it will have to decrease.
Although government keep controlling children away from gambling site always have chance and way for them active on several gambling platform actually with gambling site without need KYC. Almost all countries is not support with children created ID card before 18 years old but when have gambling platform free access and available playing without KYC easy for them active on gambling platform, I think with government controlling need procedure with KYC requirements for all gambling site have allowed on some countries as legal site.
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I think the casino has begun to think about the new law while they are still looking for what needs to be added to their rules. The existence of new laws makes casinos need to change their way of promoting and chances are they will try different ways than before. What is clear, celebrities hired by the casino will lose a source of income that may be large.



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April 22, 2022, 11:34:32 AM
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I think the casino has begun to think about the new law while they are still looking for what needs to be added to their rules. The existence of new laws makes casinos need to change their way of promoting and chances are they will try different ways than before. What is clear, celebrities hired by the casino will lose a source of income that may be large.

Do you know any casino's who actively want to implement this new law.  Since many casinos are not regulated and not licensed, they are not bound to obey each and every law. Many casinos won't implement this new laws.

Also celebrities won't be much effected as will get other opportunities to gain money.

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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).

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April 22, 2022, 12:04:18 PM
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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
Hum - that is a valid point but that again goes in their personal domain. Their half naked body would not affect youngster to do that since they would be aware of their culture - but showing someone that this hobby is productive will surely have some impact on kids. And the society where different ethnicity live together this would have a bad impact.

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April 22, 2022, 01:00:35 PM
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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
Hum - that is a valid point but that again goes in their personal domain. Their half naked body would not affect youngster to do that since they would be aware of their culture - but showing someone that this hobby is productive will surely have some impact on kids. And the society where different ethnicity live together this would have a bad impact.
You cant really say that it wont really be make not some effect considering on how influential social media is and when it comes to exposure then its no surprising that audience ages or viewers cant really be filtered out

which means there's always a tendency and its indeed even on simple google search where images something like this or connected to it would really be likely to seen therefore having such ban wont really be that
much effective but its really that a very fair rule which had been said above but of course with such changes there would really be someone to be affected.

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they will find a way to get those stars in the ads lol in some other way...
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April 22, 2022, 05:07:57 PM
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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
I think that is a good move.
We all know that Celebrities already have so many things which bother them - so they don't want to take a burden of any trouble on them. MAybe they are allowed to do this. They would keep themselves away from trouble.

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I find it really funny, IDK why but internet is so simple these days and youngsters are so developed that they are always one step ahead of us. Don't take me in wrong way but children are very smart now and no matter what you do to stop such advertisement they pop in somehow.

Do you know when you are on single wifi connection in house and somebody watches or searches a keyword then anyone connected to that network will start receiving the advertisement automatically because sometime ads are IP tracked and they release on every device that's connected.

We have made simple accessible universe for ourselves but at the same time we have made complex optimisation process.

I think branding is different stuff, they should focus on the ad media networks logics.
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I find it really funny, IDK why but internet is so simple these days and youngsters are so developed that they are always one step ahead of us. Don't take me in wrong way but children are very smart now and no matter what you do to stop such advertisement they pop in somehow.

Do you know when you are on single wifi connection in house and somebody watches or searches a keyword then anyone connected to that network will start receiving the advertisement automatically because sometime ads are IP tracked and they release on every device that's connected.

We have made simple accessible universe for ourselves but at the same time we have made complex optimisation process.

I think branding is different stuff, they should focus on the ad media networks logics.
No one would able to browse it out or would able to see those ads if it would be totally be prohibited or be blocked with those celebrities which had been used on gambling ads.
Just like on what others been saying on here that its still a considerable act since we know on who would be the one will benefit or would be avoided out which is the youth
or young minds but you did have a point that kids or youngster nowadays are smart and since that almost everyone is connected to net then its really something hard
to avoid these things completely.

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Do you know when you are on single wifi connection in house and somebody watches or searches a keyword then anyone connected to that network will start receiving the advertisement automatically because sometime ads are IP tracked and they release on every device that's connected.

^ I did not know this!
So possible that the ads will prone to the children that they will come curious and try the ads.
But I disagree with this, this is not their concern, it should be us (as a parent) who watch and guide our children's future. So at this point, if we know that the celebrity has an advert for a gambling platform, just keep away this to your children and tell them gambling is not good and they should not be addicted to it, awareness could be fine too.
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Do you know when you are on single wifi connection in house and somebody watches or searches a keyword then anyone connected to that network will start receiving the advertisement automatically because sometime ads are IP tracked and they release on every device that's connected.

^ I did not know this!
So possible that the ads will prone to the children that they will come curious and try the ads.
But I disagree with this, this is not their concern, it should be us (as a parent) who watch and guide our children's future. So at this point, if we know that the celebrity has an advert for a gambling platform, just keep away this to your children and tell them gambling is not good and they should not be addicted to it, awareness could be fine too.
I just heard this time, maybe what you mean is public area wifi that is connected freely in some city parks or is it a play area or shopping center? If so, people who are connected just stop by and if they get home/enjoy the connection, maybe not because the radius of the capture distance, maybe you mean Pop up? This is an advertisement decoration that appears on your cellphone screen and is not only about gambling and the company's arena gives the intro, I've experienced it.
I agree with you and the others that we as parents cannot completely spy on gadgets from our supervision, if we want we turn off javascript and turn on pop ups and redirects on gadgets, maybe it will help a little.
In my opinion the company is not wrong and has the right to develop their flagship products and services. It is undeniable that the artist is the sweetener of all types of sales, both goods, services and licenses (gambling). and the easiest media for hypnoselling to boost company profits

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Do you know when you are on single wifi connection in house and somebody watches or searches a keyword then anyone connected to that network will start receiving the advertisement automatically because sometime ads are IP tracked and they release on every device that's connected.

^ I did not know this!
So possible that the ads will prone to the children that they will come curious and try the ads.
But I disagree with this, this is not their concern, it should be us (as a parent) who watch and guide our children's future. So at this point, if we know that the celebrity has an advert for a gambling platform, just keep away this to your children and tell them gambling is not good and they should not be addicted to it, awareness could be fine too.
There is some regulatory board which do really protect and filter out on what are the ads that would be shown on tv but its totally different when we are on online world on which it would really be hard to filter it out.

Its a good initiative just i was saying earlier but it would really be that hard to implement and having that zero exposure which is something that impossible.They could impose things
but expect that it wouldnt be completely be that effective.

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I find it really funny, IDK why but internet is so simple these days and youngsters are so developed that they are always one step ahead of us. Don't take me in wrong way but children are very smart now and no matter what you do to stop such advertisement they pop in somehow.

Do you know when you are on single wifi connection in house and somebody watches or searches a keyword then anyone connected to that network will start receiving the advertisement automatically because sometime ads are IP tracked and they release on every device that's connected.

We have made simple accessible universe for ourselves but at the same time we have made complex optimisation process.

I think branding is different stuff, they should focus on the ad media networks logics.
There are various ways of advertising the business without adding face to it. In our region most of the big brand has removed faced and celebrities to the ads.
So it think its a good move not to add faces. Rather focus on the services and product. That would cut the cost as well.

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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
I think that is a good move.
We all know that Celebrities already have so many things which bother them - so they don't want to take a burden of any trouble on them. MAybe they are allowed to do this. They would keep themselves away from trouble.

Fk celebrities man,,, I got my own things bothering me,,, I could not care less if they are banned from advertising crypto or gambling or their own hair products. I love athletes as sportspeople, I love Son (South Korean footballer) but can give 2 craps about what clothes he wears.

Hum - that is a valid point but that again goes in their personal domain. Their half naked body would not affect youngster to do that since they would be aware of their culture - but showing someone that this hobby is productive will surely have some impact on kids. And the society where different ethnicity live together this would have a bad impact.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I am talking about role models influencing people who are not old enough to vote,,, therefore not able to make their own rational decisions. I agree we cannot show them gambling ads, but at the same time we are showing them nudity-for-money.

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It is nothing really new, after all businesses are experts at finding a way to get around the law and in many cases from the beginning they were behind those making those laws to make sure there are ways to get around them, so I do not find this to be surprising at all, besides unless a very specific criteria is devised to make this a reality I think this is a law that is not going to have too much of an effect in the daily operations of casinos.
Most of the kids indulge themselves in trouble when they are not having a check and balance. Also Celebrates have a role towards society - they have to promote a positive image of the society for the sake of glory and peace. They cannot take any blame on them. In our country we have never seen any actor promoting smoking - which is injurious to health.
What happens is that even if you are right and some people that are famous take their position with responsibility and do their best to avoid promoting stuff that could deteriorate the lives of people that does not mean that all people have that very same opinion, which is why this law is being passed on the first place, however it is going to be very difficult for a law like this to be enforced as I am not so sure how they are going to measure that a star is too famous among the young and forbid them to promote a casino.
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What happens is that even if you are right and some people that are famous take their position with responsibility and do their best to avoid promoting stuff that could deteriorate the lives of people that does not mean that all people have that very same opinion, which is why this law is being passed on the first place, however it is going to be very difficult for a law like this to be enforced as I am not so sure how they are going to measure that a star is too famous among the young and forbid them to promote a casino.
Sometimes people can not pre guess the affects of certain thing - Gambling is a very controversial stuff in many religions. People are not that liberal in every society.
And since society is a mix of different culture - so they have to be extra careful in every way. Good move though - I appreciate it!

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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
This people are creating different rules just to jeopardize our passion but who cares about it. I think they are trying to reduce the influence of sport celebrities on teenagers and gambling addicts. The rule are meant to target gambling platform with bigger restrictions from using the influence of celebrities to lure innocent children, maybe adults too from becoming gambling addictive.
That's a good try though!

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There are some gambling websites that offer free exchanges at their disposal where you can quickly convert your cryptocurrencies to fiat; and the other way around.
You are right and I have sen it on bitsler too and I have used that service as well. But when I used the service for converting cryptocurrency to fiat I noticed that they are charging me about 10% or more as a convert charge while we can use from converter site/exchange site is to lower than this amount. Though there might have only few gambling site who may convert for free.                                                                                                                                                     
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I very much agree with your opinion, in fact games of chance, sports companies around the world have as their main measure to accept adults, from 18 years of age you are an adult in my country, I do not know if they differ from other countries that the age of majority begins at 21.

For me the biggest of all the problems is that they are attacking the business model under which casinos and sports betting are also supported and it is through influencers, some athletes are influencers without them proposing it, just imagine a Messi or a CR7 on a casino platform that will attract almost all players, so I think the point is a bit tricky, it is to speculate on a business model that is developing much more currently.
All gambling casino platform have term or service allowed for adult and not prohibited for children created account, but not effective when have several gambling platform not using KYC for beginning gambling. Free for children or gambler under 18 years old active on several gambling site trough deposit by cryptocurrency, maybe have different thing when deposit fund for gambling casino account by fiat because children can't created bank account if still under 18 years old or without have ID card.

Most the gambling casinos have their terms regarding the age restriction and of course its the player's responsibility to check it but its 2022 guys most of the people don't read the instruction and terms they just created an account and if they meet some trouble they are just checking it, that's why its better if the gambling platforms always makes a notifying the members or the users with this agreements but mostly its just an accept if the user is age 18 above and after that they can proceed now, its ideal they have some child protection.

Well, I am particularly a person who is very supportive of everything that is about privacy and anonymity, but when they are seen, including the danger to children, and that in some way affects them, at least for me thinking as a parent, it is The only thing in life that makes me bow my head is because of the children, it's the only thing, and seeing it from the point of view that sometimes casinos require their KYC considering how bad this represents, the only good thing for me is that can guarantee that it keeps children out of danger, it is the only thing for which I would dare to defend a possible KYC on any platform.

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There are some gambling websites that offer free exchanges at their disposal where you can quickly convert your cryptocurrencies to fiat; and the other way around.
You are right and I have sen it on bitsler too and I have used that service as well. But when I used the service for converting cryptocurrency to fiat I noticed that they are charging me about 10% or more as a convert charge while we can use from converter site/exchange site is to lower than this amount. Though there might have only few gambling site who may convert for free.                                                                                                                                                     

This kind of feature makes their users feel that its convenient to use their platform because they have already an integrated feature of swapping their coins but only a few platform I saw this kind of feature but mostly expensive when they use it to exchange but still it's convenient i guess the same fee too if they convert and deposit, also most of the people use this feature just to prevent having too much high fees.

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April 26, 2022, 11:18:00 AM
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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
This people are creating different rules just to jeopardize our passion but who cares about it. I think they are trying to reduce the influence of sport celebrities on teenagers and gambling addicts. The rule are meant to target gambling platform with bigger restrictions from using the influence of celebrities to lure innocent children, maybe adults too from becoming gambling addictive.
That's a good try though!

No the rules are clearly to protect under18s,,, not gambling addicts Smiley Not adults as they are responsible for their own decisions.

Of course there are also exceptions as I have met very mature children and myself,,, probably was still immature in my 20s as I remember ICO days hehe, but anyway moot point. Rules are rules and people voted for their governments.

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April 26, 2022, 11:40:24 PM
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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
This people are creating different rules just to jeopardize our passion but who cares about it. I think they are trying to reduce the influence of sport celebrities on teenagers and gambling addicts. The rule are meant to target gambling platform with bigger restrictions from using the influence of celebrities to lure innocent children, maybe adults too from becoming gambling addictive.
That's a good try though!

No the rules are clearly to protect under18s,,, not gambling addicts Smiley Not adults as they are responsible for their own decisions.

Of course there are also exceptions as I have met very mature children and myself,,, probably was still immature in my 20s as I remember ICO days hehe, but anyway moot point. Rules are rules and people voted for their governments.
They dont really have any choice but to deal on what their government had set upon and if it turns out that this would be implemented out strictly then there's nothing that they could do.

Its clear that this rule or law does really tend to protect the youth or minors which usually does have already some idols which it would be understandable on the chances for them
to get involved once they've seen things which is attached to gambling.So i do say that it is really just not a bad idea to impose such laws.

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No the rules are clearly to protect under18s,,, not gambling addicts Smiley Not adults as they are responsible for their own decisions.

Of course there are also exceptions as I have met very mature children and myself,,, probably was still immature in my 20s as I remember ICO days hehe, but anyway moot point. Rules are rules and people voted for their governments.
The intentions behind the rule seem to be clear however it is the implementation of the rule that is going to be difficult to put into practice, after all there is not really a mention of what it means to be too popular with the people that are younger than 18 years old, does this means that a certain percentage needs to be reached for an athlete to be banned from promoting casinos, does it needs to be the majority group among his fans or will they use some other metric to determine this?
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There are some gambling websites that offer free exchanges at their disposal where you can quickly convert your cryptocurrencies to fiat; and the other way around.
You are right and I have sen it on bitsler too and I have used that service as well. But when I used the service for converting cryptocurrency to fiat I noticed that they are charging me about 10% or more as a convert charge while we can use from converter site/exchange site is to lower than this amount. Though there might have only few gambling site who may convert for free.                                                                                                                                                     

This kind of feature makes their users feel that its convenient to use their platform because they have already an integrated feature of swapping their coins but only a few platform I saw this kind of feature but mostly expensive when they use it to exchange but still it's convenient i guess the same fee too if they convert and deposit, also most of the people use this feature just to prevent having too much high fees.

Whenever a casino offers a feature out of convenience it is purely designed for them to funnel more money into the casino. As this sort of feature relies on having traditional banking network connections (if allowing them to exchange fiat into crypto instantly) then there are likely to be larger fees than normal, because casinos and crypto related businesses would be considered extremely high risk so any third party will naturally charge more to take on such risk or they might just use a white label type crypto exchange who will stay disguised in the background but charge equally high fees. Basically, the casinos are not necessarily benefiting outside of removing a barrier to customers wanting to deposit fiat currency, as those high charges are likely taken by other companies.

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April 27, 2022, 09:48:25 PM
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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
This people are creating different rules just to jeopardize our passion but who cares about it. I think they are trying to reduce the influence of sport celebrities on teenagers and gambling addicts. The rule are meant to target gambling platform with bigger restrictions from using the influence of celebrities to lure innocent children, maybe adults too from becoming gambling addictive.
That's a good try though!

No the rules are clearly to protect under18s,,, not gambling addicts Smiley Not adults as they are responsible for their own decisions.

Of course there are also exceptions as I have met very mature children and myself,,, probably was still immature in my 20s as I remember ICO days hehe, but anyway moot point. Rules are rules and people voted for their governments.

It will be difficult if the parents will allow their children to be involve on gambling, the efforts of government will just be wasted to combat gambling if there household will not care about what their children's doing. Maybe this implementation about banning celebrities will be effective on some point knowing how huge the influence they have but this will not stop if there's no cooperation by certain individuals.

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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
This people are creating different rules just to jeopardize our passion but who cares about it. I think they are trying to reduce the influence of sport celebrities on teenagers and gambling addicts. The rule are meant to target gambling platform with bigger restrictions from using the influence of celebrities to lure innocent children, maybe adults too from becoming gambling addictive.
That's a good try though!

No the rules are clearly to protect under18s,,, not gambling addicts Smiley Not adults as they are responsible for their own decisions.

Of course there are also exceptions as I have met very mature children and myself,,, probably was still immature in my 20s as I remember ICO days hehe, but anyway moot point. Rules are rules and people voted for their governments.

It will be difficult if the parents will allow their children to be involve on gambling, the efforts of government will just be wasted to combat gambling if there household will not care about what their children's doing. Maybe this implementation about banning celebrities will be effective on some point knowing how huge the influence they have but this will not stop if there's no cooperation by certain individuals.
There would be indeed other factors which would really be needed for this initiative to be that effective and its true that parents would be having a role on this one because laws and prohibitions wont really
be that much effective or would be significant if the other side doesnt really do their responsibility specially on parenting which it is totally true.
Banning wont be that effective but just like on what others been saying that this is a good initiative.

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It does not seem clear to me what this new rule mean. It does not seem to be a ban on using sports personalities,,, just to not let them target Under 18s (which for me is a very very fair rule).

Role models like it or not live in a different time,,, but they can post their half naked bodies on IG and Under18s can see that easily (or use Google on their own of course).
This people are creating different rules just to jeopardize our passion but who cares about it. I think they are trying to reduce the influence of sport celebrities on teenagers and gambling addicts. The rule are meant to target gambling platform with bigger restrictions from using the influence of celebrities to lure innocent children, maybe adults too from becoming gambling addictive.
That's a good try though!

No the rules are clearly to protect under18s,,, not gambling addicts Smiley Not adults as they are responsible for their own decisions.

Of course there are also exceptions as I have met very mature children and myself,,, probably was still immature in my 20s as I remember ICO days hehe, but anyway moot point. Rules are rules and people voted for their governments.

It will be difficult if the parents will allow their children to be involve on gambling, the efforts of government will just be wasted to combat gambling if there household will not care about what their children's doing. Maybe this implementation about banning celebrities will be effective on some point knowing how huge the influence they have but this will not stop if there's no cooperation by certain individuals.

This is why discipline starts from home and other important life lessons. If you will instill the importance of money and how you can use it appropriately, they will always remember it wherever they go. They may try some things from time to time, but if they have instilled such good virtue and discipline, it will come naturally wherever they go in life. Thus, parents or guardians has vital role in molding their kids here.
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At that age of 18yrs below, what on earth should a teenager be gambling for? Because there are so many annoying things and this is one of them because gambling has this addictive nature that if care is not taken can ruin your life. So at that age below 18yrs, you have your dads and mum providing all your needs, so what do you need money for again to gamble?

A kid should be thinking about how to build a successful career to be a better person tomorrow by studying hard, making research, and working on team projects in school.

So celebrities will always remain celebrities, and they are the only people who have got the most fan base, which can run an advertisement that actually converts into sales. So it will be very hard to exclude celebrities totally by the management board of casino, but I'm sure they should have a plan "B" which I'm yet to know compared  to a very popular football celebrity like Christiana Ronaldo who has over 200 million followers on Instagram


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No the rules are clearly to protect under18s,,, not gambling addicts Smiley Not adults as they are responsible for their own decisions.

Of course there are also exceptions as I have met very mature children and myself,,, probably was still immature in my 20s as I remember ICO days hehe, but anyway moot point. Rules are rules and people voted for their governments.
The intentions behind the rule seem to be clear however it is the implementation of the rule that is going to be difficult to put into practice, after all there is not really a mention of what it means to be too popular with the people that are younger than 18 years old, does this means that a certain percentage needs to be reached for an athlete to be banned from promoting casinos, does it needs to be the majority group among his fans or will they use some other metric to determine this?

But honestly and really,,, so what if it becomes a blanket ban, right? What on earth do we lose if our favorite crypto brand in gambling cannot be associated with our favorite star or athlete? What do we lose? Are we less happy? Are our lives less enriched?

If I was an Arsenal fan,,, and I am so not. I would be so so happy if I saw my favorite sports casino on the jersey (which they are). I would probably be even happier if my favorite player had an exclusive deal.

But if suddenly he could not.

I would not be pissed or angry or sad. He is still my favorite player and my favorite casino is still my favorite.

And the price,,, protection of underaged kids from too early exposure to casino.

I think this is great!

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I find it really funny, IDK why but internet is so simple these days and youngsters are so developed that they are always one step ahead of us. Don't take me in wrong way but children are very smart now and no matter what you do to stop such advertisement they pop in somehow.
But at least we still trying our ways to stop or at lessen the chances of them to become addicted .
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Let the ads come , but we as parent will try our best to help  them understand the consequences of being a gambler at young age?
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I think branding is different stuff, they should focus on the ad media networks logics.
Let them do their best and you? try to contribute also because it will come to your door in the future.
Ideally, at that tender age of 18yrs and below, it's not good for a child to be gambling, because gambling has this addictive nature that if care is not taken can ruin your life. So at that age what a kid should be thinking about is how to build his career to be a better person tomorrow.

And secondly, i wonder how casinos  will now be able to run a successful ads campaign with this new policy
 without a popularly known face, because celebrities are known faces
and that's why we must help the community in cleaning what we think will lead young people into Gambling .

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April 29, 2022, 07:37:43 PM
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This is why discipline starts from home and other important life lessons. If you will instill the importance of money and how you can use it appropriately, they will always remember it wherever they go. They may try some things from time to time, but if they have instilled such good virtue and discipline, it will come naturally wherever they go in life. Thus, parents or guardians has vital role in molding their kids here.
This is so true - Kid start their first lesson from home. The kind of atmosphere they get from their home makes their personality.
likewise parental control is that important as well. I think check and balance is important and its not something which should be cursed or criticized, I am not sure about other countries but in our country patents have a stock check and balance over their kids.

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April 29, 2022, 10:31:15 PM
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No the rules are clearly to protect under18s,,, not gambling addicts Smiley Not adults as they are responsible for their own decisions.
You are right the rules has been created only to protect under age (below 18) so that they cant be misguided. And no gambler will face any problem/issue except the people whose age is under 18, and it is the perfect  rule I think to avoid premature people.
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No the rules are clearly to protect under18s,,, not gambling addicts Smiley Not adults as they are responsible for their own decisions.
You are right the rules has been created only to protect under the age (of 18) so that they cant be misguided. And no gambler will face any problem/issue except the people whose age is under 18, and it is the perfect rule I think to avoid premature people.
Ronaldo is a role model to many kids and seeing him in gambling advert my draw strong interest the kid in gambling which can lead to addiction since their you and can guide their emotions most times, so to me, the ban is not a bad idea since it targets on child protection it all good despite its negative effect on the store and the gambling sites that want to use them to promote the product. But the part I don't understand in the article is where it mentions that they are not allowed to promote any product, is it that they are banned from all forms. of promotions or just gambling promotions?
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But at least we still trying our ways to stop or at lessen the chances of them to become addicted .
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Let the ads come , but we as parent will try our best to help  them understand the consequences of being a gambler at young age?
Exactly we need to prevent them from being addicted to gambling or even not playing gambling because they are still kids. This is actually the role of the parents themselves who are responsible for the children, how they can give any attention to their life and also activities although the parents are super busy. But at least, paying attention to the activities, giving understanding about the risks of gambling, and giving advice not to play gambling because of some reasons, will be actually the first thing to do.
Because we know that even if government or regulations bans advertisements related to gambling, there will be always the ways the promotions online, in the game online, and also other advertisements.



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April 29, 2022, 10:59:37 PM
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But at least we still trying our ways to stop or at lessen the chances of them to become addicted .
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Let the ads come , but we as parent will try our best to help  them understand the consequences of being a gambler at young age?
Exactly we need to prevent them from being addicted to gambling or even not playing gambling because they are still kids. This is actually the role of the parents themselves who are responsible for the children, how they can give any attention to their life and also activities although the parents are super busy. But at least, paying attention to the activities, giving understanding about the risks of gambling, and giving advice not to play gambling because of some reasons, will be actually the first thing to do.
Because we know that even if government or regulations bans advertisements related to gambling, there will be always the ways the promotions online, in the game online, and also other advertisements.



Parenting does really play a big role for their kids to be aware on how gambling do works and how addiction could possibly affect them.Its true that its one of the main factors and one of the things should be blamed

out if their kids do really get involved with gambling on early ages.If government do decide to make out some ban or prohibition on related about celebrity advertisement then it isnt really that a bad gesture.

Casinos/Gambling companies would be still finding ways on how they would really be doing  some effective market without touching these fellas.

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April 29, 2022, 11:13:18 PM
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But at least we still trying our ways to stop or at lessen the chances of them to become addicted .
...
Let the ads come , but we as parent will try our best to help  them understand the consequences of being a gambler at young age?
Exactly we need to prevent them from being addicted to gambling or even not playing gambling because they are still kids. This is actually the role of the parents themselves who are responsible for the children, how they can give any attention to their life and also activities although the parents are super busy. But at least, paying attention to the activities, giving understanding about the risks of gambling, and giving advice not to play gambling because of some reasons, will be actually the first thing to do.
Because we know that even if government or regulations bans advertisements related to gambling, there will be always the ways the promotions online, in the game online, and also other advertisements.




These days the social media is accessible everywhere on computers and mobile. In the Past, then there were only televisions and print media, parents could have control their children to access these media so kids do not learn about the gambling or see gambling ads. But since the social media is popular, its impossible to control the kids.
Now its the sole responsibility of the parents to keep a strict eye on small children so that they do not access the gambling sites and also do not see those attractive gambling ads.

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April 30, 2022, 02:53:06 AM
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They have their reason and yeah, they are right in this case. Kids and teenagers see those celebrities and sport stars very highly and tend to follow what they do. If they see them promoting casinos and gambling, they will believe that gambling is a normal thing to do everyday and it might affect their future. They might want to try and play in casinos just to experiment out of curiosity. This curiosity could end up making them a gambling addict.

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I have no idea what you are talking about. I am talking about role models influencing people who are not old enough to vote,,, therefore not able to make their own rational decisions. I agree we cannot show them gambling ads, but at the same time we are showing them nudity-for-money.
Kids are so smart these days- and parents are too busy that sometime they miss what is going on with their kids or maybe sometime they trust their kids so much that it is hard to believe that they would go wrong somewhere. But one both the end there is something wrong both the parties do ie kids and their parents.

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These days the social media is accessible everywhere on computers and mobile. In the Past, then there were only televisions and print media, parents could have control their children to access these media so kids do not learn about the gambling or see gambling ads. But since the social media is popular, its impossible to control the kids.
Now its the sole responsibility of the parents to keep a strict eye on small children so that they do not access the gambling sites and also do not see those attractive gambling ads.
There is some software that can also block websites with questionable content for children, but the number of internet websites is so massive that even with something like this there is no guarantee that children will not end up seeing something that they should not, and even if those filters were 100% effective most parents do not activate something like this on the phones and computers of their children, allowing them to eventually watch such content no matter what a responsible parent does to try to avoid this.
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There is some software that can also block websites with questionable content for children, but the number of internet websites is so massive that even with something like this there is no guarantee that children will not end up seeing something that they should not, and even if those filters were 100% effective most parents do not activate something like this on the phones and computers of their children, allowing them to eventually watch such content no matter what a responsible parent does to try to avoid this.
Even though there are software available but then again kids are very smart. They would check whatever they want to through friends phone or cousin phone. I have almost 4 devices per person in my house. When we are not controlling our selves how would we control our kids.

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These days the social media is accessible everywhere on computers and mobile. In the Past, then there were only televisions and print media, parents could have control their children to access these media so kids do not learn about the gambling or see gambling ads. But since the social media is popular, its impossible to control the kids.
Now its the sole responsibility of the parents to keep a strict eye on small children so that they do not access the gambling sites and also do not see those attractive gambling ads.
There is some software that can also block websites with questionable content for children, but the number of internet websites is so massive that even with something like this there is no guarantee that children will not end up seeing something that they should not, and even if those filters were 100% effective most parents do not activate something like this on the phones and computers of their children, allowing them to eventually watch such content no matter what a responsible parent does to try to avoid this.
You are right that some software/website can prevent those people who are under eighteen from gambling by asking either the person is under 18 or not. But those childreen who will use gambling site will mark as they are above 18 and in this vase nothing would be able to do.
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This law is a good one because children can become addicted to gambling very easily. Children don't know exceptions or boundaries in using thier finances on gambling. Addiction to gambling can easily lead a child to other crimes. Sports celebraties are the role models of every sports loving child and they can be easily influenced by these sports stars. Any product these stars promotes would be accepted by these innocent young children.

But banning the use of these celebraties for advert is also counter productive because underage users are not the target of these promotional advertisement. Enforcing this law would impede these companies to reach out to other matured targets. And this would make these gambling firms to loose revenue.

My humble suggestion is that after each advertisement, these celebraties should be mandated to say  "Not for users under the age of 18 slogan" Companies should also create more awareness on the need to discourage children from using gambling or betting sites.

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Many celebrities don't even know that their personalities are used to attract gambling players. You also see it happening a lot with fake stocks and investment funds. But the difference is that it's just a scam. At gambling sites it happens that well-known personalities have agreed to this in exchange for money, of course. There are well-known ex professional football players who are ambassadors for existing gambling sites, Robin Van Persie for example. There is nothing wrong with that in itself, if the site acts in all honesty.

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May 01, 2022, 12:38:10 PM
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Many celebrities don't even know that their personalities are used to attract gambling players. You also see it happening a lot with fake stocks and investment funds. But the difference is that it's just a scam. At gambling sites it happens that well-known personalities have agreed to this in exchange for money, of course. There are well-known ex professional football players who are ambassadors for existing gambling sites, Robin Van Persie for example. There is nothing wrong with that in itself, if the site acts in all honesty.
There are some marketing rules - and companies and industries do break the rule.
In our country earlier before the social media anyone could do anything to the images and picture of celebrities for marketing purpose - but now there is so much awareness and everyone is careful and do the stuff with care.

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There are some marketing rules - and companies and industries do break the rule.
In our country earlier before the social media anyone could do anything to the images and picture of celebrities for marketing purpose - but now there is so much awareness and everyone is careful and do the stuff with care.
So the marketing happens in real life? But is that more dangerous because anyone can see your face if your are dishonest about your promotions. They can report you the authorities or worst they will threaten your life.

Now that there are now the internet and social medias, it's not more easier to promote and anyone can do it anonymously without needing to showcase their face and personal data's. Editing and grabbing pictures online is now a common thing and people can use that as their marketing materials. I think there are also rules or law in regards to marketing. Everyone must obey that if they don't want to get in trouble.

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May 01, 2022, 11:21:34 PM
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Now that there are now the internet and social medias, it's not more easier to promote and anyone can do it anonymously without needing to showcase their face and personal data's. Editing and grabbing pictures online is now a common thing and people can use that as their marketing materials. I think there are also rules or law in regards to marketing. Everyone must obey that if they don't want to get in trouble.
I second that. Social media has changed the world all together. Particularly in last 2 years during pandemic. And by the way everyone is celebrity these days. There are tiktok stars and youtube stars and insta hero and fb super stars. Promotion is not a big deal these days. But hitting the right target and getting the clients is.

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May 02, 2022, 04:44:22 PM
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There are some marketing rules - and companies and industries do break the rule.
In our country earlier before the social media anyone could do anything to the images and picture of celebrities for marketing purpose - but now there is so much awareness and everyone is careful and do the stuff with care.

Of course, we can never be too sure that no company has ever broke a marketing rules, right? But, in the essence of it, the agreement between the personality and company to launch a marketing tactics is not really a bad thing. I believe that it just changed over time, especially nowadays where many people who are over passionate in following their idols, so the influence that certain celebrities and sports stars can sometimes have a negative implications to different audiences. Lets just hope that the committee for advertising practices could really dedicate their time and energy in exhibiting this rule.

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May 02, 2022, 05:49:19 PM
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There are some marketing rules - and companies and industries do break the rule.
In our country earlier before the social media anyone could do anything to the images and picture of celebrities for marketing purpose - but now there is so much awareness and everyone is careful and do the stuff with care.
So the marketing happens in real life? But is that more dangerous because anyone can see your face if your are dishonest about your promotions. They can report you the authorities or worst they will threaten your life.

Now that there are now the internet and social medias, it's not more easier to promote and anyone can do it anonymously without needing to showcase their face and personal data's. Editing and grabbing pictures online is now a common thing and people can use that as their marketing materials. I think there are also rules or law in regards to marketing. Everyone must obey that if they don't want to get in trouble.
Scammers who intend to scam people are well aware of that, but they continue doing it knowing that there are still people who that unaware of this kind of marketing. Fake pictures that include known personalities as promoters or something alike are easily being used as marketing materials to allure people to play or use the gambling platforms.

More on people doing their research before moving inside or playing inside, even there are rules about it and there are particular laws about it
in the eyes of scammers, money is more important, especially if they can walk away with it.

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Ideally, at that tender age of 18yrs and below, it's not good for a child to be gambling, because gambling has this addictive nature that if care is not taken can ruin your life. So at that age what a kid should be thinking about is how to build his career to be a better person tomorrow.

And secondly, i wonder how casinos  will now be able to run a successful ads campaign with this new policy
 without a popularly known face, because celebrities are known faces
Well I see your point of view and it is the most correct, although currently we have been adapting to a rhythm of life where the virtual is the most appropriate, the children who have been educated for about 10 years or so have had access to many parts of the internet, under which they include games, when they discover that they can play on casino platforms, even making up data and saying they are of legal age, they have access and start playing, ideally they should not do it, but if you start to investigate with any child who is 14-15 years old, they have already experimented with games of chance, and it is not so much their fault, but the entire conglomerate around them forces them, that is, since the pandemic everything has been virtual and children they move like a fish in water in the virtual, that is why children must be supervised absolutely everything, because at 18 they are capable of developing skills and computer security to enter the darkweb.

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There is some software that can also block websites with questionable content for children, but the number of internet websites is so massive that even with something like this there is no guarantee that children will not end up seeing something that they should not, and even if those filters were 100% effective most parents do not activate something like this on the phones and computers of their children, allowing them to eventually watch such content no matter what a responsible parent does to try to avoid this.
Even though there are software available but then again kids are very smart. They would check whatever they want to through friends phone or cousin phone. I have almost 4 devices per person in my house. When we are not controlling our selves how would we control our kids.
Correct, the truth is that technology has surpassed the ability of parents to supervise their children, which is why it is important that parents instead rely on trying to guide their kids and explain to them why certain behaviors are not desirable at such a young age and hope that by doing such a thing this is enough to stop their kids of doing stuff that is not appropriate for their age, it is not a perfect solution but it is the best that can be done in the majority of the cases.
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There is some software that can also block websites with questionable content for children, but the number of internet websites is so massive that even with something like this there is no guarantee that children will not end up seeing something that they should not, and even if those filters were 100% effective most parents do not activate something like this on the phones and computers of their children, allowing them to eventually watch such content no matter what a responsible parent does to try to avoid this.
Even though there are software available but then again kids are very smart. They would check whatever they want to through friends phone or cousin phone. I have almost 4 devices per person in my house. When we are not controlling our selves how would we control our kids.
Correct, the truth is that technology has surpassed the ability of parents to supervise their children, which is why it is important that parents instead rely on trying to guide their kids and explain to them why certain behaviors are not desirable at such a young age and hope that by doing such a thing this is enough to stop their kids of doing stuff that is not appropriate for their age, it is not a perfect solution but it is the best that can be done in the majority of the cases.
Not all parents are really that knowledgeable or something all-knowing specially on new techs that we do have today which we cant really be that perfect in terms of awareness or on how it do works thats why

we do really able to miss out things for our children or kids to get involved into something we dont able to know since we arent aware on how it do works thats why 100% monitoring is impossible.

So the only thing you could do is to make out some explanations when they are still young and made them realize on whats good or bad.

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So the only thing you could do is to make out some explanations when they are still young and made them realize on whats good or bad.
Make themselves aware on what's reality because proper guidance is the key to raise up kids on the right path and less likely for them to lost track or good track in life.
They might make some involvement in some time but that would really be due to curiosity but much sure they would really be stopping mid way when they had realized
that losing chance is even more.On the time that the ban has been implemented then it wouldnt still give out assurance that government would really completely get rid
of possible exposure specially on youths considering about accessibility which is really just to near or a matter of few clicks.

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Starting in October, gambling companies will not be allowed to use stars to target children under 18, the Advertising Practices Committee said.

Anyone with a "strong appeal" to young people, such as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Love Island star Chris Hughes, should not appear in advertisements.

The body representing betting companies said it welcomed the new rules.

Michael Dugher, chief executive of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC) said the changes build on industry-led measures designed to "raise standards and ensure further protection in advertising."

The Advertising Practices Committee (CAP) said the "hard" new rules were part of its commitment to protecting young people and vulnerable audiences.

The new rules state that gambling and lottery advertisements must not "be a strong attraction to children or youth, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture".

References to video game content and gameplay popular with under-18s are also against the new rules.

There is opposition to gambling advertisements among some politicians, parents, and awareness campaigning groups around gambling addiction.

What impact will be received by gambling companies, both fiat and crypto, because we know that gambling companies use celebrities to boost the popularity of these gambling sites?

In terms of promotion, the gambling company may change its strategy in using these celebrities or use an age limit for those allowed to see these advertisements.

But from another perspective, it doesn't seem easy to do because children under 18 years old may already know how to see the ad. But indeed, the problem of gambling addiction is a very serious problem that needs everyone's attention. They can play gambling but with strict terms and conditions.

Again, I have said this before and gladly say it again. What exactly is the basis for measuring which stars are ok for children and which are not? With rules like these, the government could just arbitrarily decide which star is ok and which is not. How long until we have an underground, corrupt system with stars having to buy their right to advertise in the gambling community?

I am against this unless they can prove its helping children.

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So the only thing you could do is to make out some explanations when they are still young and made them realize on whats good or bad.
Make themselves aware on what's reality because proper guidance is the key to raise up kids on the right path and less likely for them to lost track or good track in life.
They might make some involvement in some time but that would really be due to curiosity but much sure they would really be stopping mid way when they had realized
that losing chance is even more.On the time that the ban has been implemented then it wouldnt still give out assurance that government would really completely get rid
of possible exposure specially on youths considering about accessibility which is really just to near or a matter of few clicks.

Instill them the appropriate mindset during their early days, and yes, they may deviate from time to time but they will always remember what they have learned at home. They can always go back to their basic lessons in life. As we can't monitor them 24/7, we are only holding onto what have been inculcated with them to face their own life's struggles and challenges.
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Instill them the appropriate mindset during their early days, and yes, they may deviate from time to time but they will always remember what they have learned at home. They can always go back to their basic lessons in life. As we can't monitor them 24/7, we are only holding onto what have been inculcated with them to face their own life's struggles and challenges.
At this age, kids mostly listen to what their friends say. By the time the are out in professional life they realize their parents were right. So it is difficult to change their mindset. They see and learn many things in school and at play area and they also idealize their fav celebrities so it is hard to tell them what the celebrate is doing is not good for you.

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Instill them the appropriate mindset during their early days, and yes, they may deviate from time to time but they will always remember what they have learned at home. They can always go back to their basic lessons in life. As we can't monitor them 24/7, we are only holding onto what have been inculcated with them to face their own life's struggles and challenges.
At this age, kids mostly listen to what their friends say. By the time the are out in professional life they realize their parents were right. So it is difficult to change their mindset. They see and learn many things in school and at play area and they also idealize their fav celebrities so it is hard to tell them what the celebrate is doing is not good for you.
Without a doubt this is a problem because when kids begin to grow up and they become young adults their peers have more influence over them than their parents and that is when most people make some life-changing mistakes that they have to carry for the rest of their lives, this is why we need to be careful at that time with things like alcohol consumption or compulsive gambling, as the brains of those young people have not completed their development yet so they are more prone to make mistakes that they would not make later on in their lives.
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This law is a good one because children can become addicted to gambling very easily. Children don't know exceptions or boundaries in using thier finances on gambling. Addiction to gambling can easily lead a child to other crimes. Sports celebraties are the role models of every sports loving child and they can be easily influenced by these sports stars. Any product these stars promotes would be accepted by these innocent young children.
it may decrease the number of forthcoming gamblers who is not adult but it is impossible to stop from being addicted to the child who are not adult. Restriction of anything can keep few people away but it cant stopped all the people. Addition of gambling is not preventable fully.
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This law is a good one because children can become addicted to gambling very easily. Children don't know exceptions or boundaries in using thier finances on gambling. Addiction to gambling can easily lead a child to other crimes. Sports celebraties are the role models of every sports loving child and they can be easily influenced by these sports stars. Any product these stars promotes would be accepted by these innocent young children.
it may decrease the number of forthcoming gamblers who is not adult but it is impossible to stop from being addicted to the child who are not adult. Restriction of anything can keep few people away but it cant stopped all the people. Addition of gambling is not preventable fully.
kids are very clever these days. Even my 10 years old nephew teaches his grandparents how to use the apps and how to respond.
These kids are 21 century kids - they are hard to control so the only good think is counceling and telling them what is good for them and what not.

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This law is a good one because children can become addicted to gambling very easily. Children don't know exceptions or boundaries in using thier finances on gambling. Addiction to gambling can easily lead a child to other crimes. Sports celebraties are the role models of every sports loving child and they can be easily influenced by these sports stars. Any product these stars promotes would be accepted by these innocent young children.
it may decrease the number of forthcoming gamblers who is not adult but it is impossible to stop from being addicted to the child who are not adult. Restriction of anything can keep few people away but it cant stopped all the people. Addition of gambling is not preventable fully.
kids are very clever these days. Even my 10 years old nephew teaches his grandparents how to use the apps and how to respond.
These kids are 21 century kids - they are hard to control so the only good think is counceling and telling them what is good for them and what not.
I agree on this one, kids nowadays are really that smart nor aware on this current tech we do have today on which they do even surpass into those oldies when it comes to awareness and
how this tech works and its true that there's no way that we could really get rid of this one or avoid which means that proper guidance and make themselves aware about gambling
addiction or effects should really be put up into their mind because no matter how the government would impose bans on different forms it would be still useless i would say.

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I agree on this one, kids nowadays are really that smart nor aware on this current tech we do have today on which they do even surpass into those oldies when it comes to awareness and
how this tech works and its true that there's no way that we could really get rid of this one or avoid which means that proper guidance and make themselves aware about gambling
addiction or effects should really be put up into their mind because no matter how the government would impose bans on different forms it would be still useless i would say.
I support the decision - because society is a blend of different cultures and background. In some cultures gambling is taken as a sin/crime. So the family cannot afford seeing their kids going to casinos. Or even they don't want their husbands to gamble. So better safe than sorry.

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I agree on this one, kids nowadays are really that smart nor aware on this current tech we do have today on which they do even surpass into those oldies when it comes to awareness and
how this tech works and its true that there's no way that we could really get rid of this one or avoid which means that proper guidance and make themselves aware about gambling
addiction or effects should really be put up into their mind because no matter how the government would impose bans on different forms it would be still useless i would say.
I support the decision - because society is a blend on different cultures and background. In some culture gambling is taken as a sin. So the family cannot afford seeing their kids going to casinos. Or even they don't want their husbands to gambol. So better safe than sorry.
We must be aware that all children are now in a world that has changed significantly since the pandemic began, they live in a digital world, where schools from the beginning were digital, it is much easier for them to access sites To play, among them the casinos, it is for this reason that the fundamental role of parents must be unique for their children to protect, if parents are not aware of their children, they cannot guide them on the right track, and a child He knows that he has to place on every platform that is of legal age, who finds a way to make fun of systems, if parents do not have enough supervision are the guilty of games of addiction of games and anything bad that their children can access , that is the only fault of this problem.

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May 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
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I agree on this one, kids nowadays are really that smart nor aware on this current tech we do have today on which they do even surpass into those oldies when it comes to awareness and
how this tech works and its true that there's no way that we could really get rid of this one or avoid which means that proper guidance and make themselves aware about gambling
addiction or effects should really be put up into their mind because no matter how the government would impose bans on different forms it would be still useless i would say.
I support the decision - because society is a blend of different cultures and background. In some cultures gambling is taken as a sin/crime. So the family cannot afford to see their kids going to casinos. Or even they don't want their husbands to gamble. So better safe than sorry.

I hope there would also be programs that will educate families on how to help and support their family members who are suffering from gambling addiction. The main support must come from the family first. It's really heartbreaking that there are broken families because of the curse of gambling addiction so everyone must be aware of how to handle such situations.
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I agree on this one, kids nowadays are really that smart nor aware on this current tech we do have today on which they do even surpass into those oldies when it comes to awareness and
how this tech works and its true that there's no way that we could really get rid of this one or avoid which means that proper guidance and make themselves aware about gambling
addiction or effects should really be put up into their mind because no matter how the government would impose bans on different forms it would be still useless i would say.
I support the decision - because society is a blend of different cultures and background. In some cultures gambling is taken as a sin/crime. So the family cannot afford to see their kids going to casinos. Or even they don't want their husbands to gamble. So better safe than sorry.

I hope there would also be programs that will educate families on how to help and support their family members who are suffering from gambling addiction. The main support must come from the family first. It's really heartbreaking that there are broken families because of the curse of gambling addiction so everyone must be aware of how to handle such situations.
Well - there are even the horror stories attached to the gambling as well. But the most dangerous of all are those players who loose control on their emotion and losses their hard earned money. So for the kids, it is very important so that they indulge themselves in the healthy activities.

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It will depend on how parents educate their children and if their children suffer from gambling addiction, they can find solutions to overcome their gambling addiction. Yes, that's correct. The family should provide support first so that he does not feel alone in overcoming his addiction. But sometimes, the addicted person to gambling does not want to tell their family because they feel it is not related to their family. It needs discussion with their family to know the problem and how to solve it.



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It will depend on how parents educate their children and if their children suffer from gambling addiction, they can find solutions to overcome their gambling addiction. Yes, that's correct. The family should provide support first so that he does not feel alone in overcoming his addiction. But sometimes, the addicted person to gambling does not want to tell their family because they feel it is not related to their family. It needs discussion with their family to know the problem and how to solve it.
It is not a fact for gambling either the gambler is educated or not. And those people who is addicted on gambling are maximum educated people. There is highest percentage of the gamblers are educated only few percentage of the gamblers might be not educated. So education can't play any vital role regarding gambling.
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It will depend on how parents educate their children and if their children suffer from gambling addiction, they can find solutions to overcome their gambling addiction. Yes, that's correct. The family should provide support first so that he does not feel alone in overcoming his addiction. But sometimes, the addicted person to gambling does not want to tell their family because they feel it is not related to their family. It needs discussion with their family to know the problem and how to solve it.
Family, friends, vacation, and doing other things that could get your mind out of gambling. Find happiness on other things, like playing sports, videogames, board games, etc.
On top of it, you'll only call yourself or by the others addicted because you've lost significant amount of money. But if not, you're good. Gambling has ups and down, it needs strong emotional capacity. So if you cannot take losing, do not play.

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I agree on this one, kids nowadays are really that smart nor aware on this current tech we do have today on which they do even surpass into those oldies when it comes to awareness and
how this tech works and its true that there's no way that we could really get rid of this one or avoid which means that proper guidance and make themselves aware about gambling
addiction or effects should really be put up into their mind because no matter how the government would impose bans on different forms it would be still useless i would say.
I support the decision - because society is a blend of different cultures and background. In some cultures gambling is taken as a sin/crime. So the family cannot afford seeing their kids going to casinos. Or even they don't want their husbands to gamble. So better safe than sorry.
the majority of people in my country also still have thoughts like this, even the discussion of gambling (whether it's sports betting or slots) is considered taboo (bad talk). With the proliferation of celebgrams and tiktok artists in my country, many of them have been arrested by the police for being ambassadors by a gambling site. my country government is very strict against gambling with the reason of wanting to protect the younger generation from gambling.

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It will depend on how parents educate their children and if their children suffer from gambling addiction, they can find solutions to overcome their gambling addiction. Yes, that's correct. The family should provide support first so that he does not feel alone in overcoming his addiction. But sometimes, the addicted person to gambling does not want to tell their family because they feel it is not related to their family. It needs discussion with their family to know the problem and how to solve it.

If someone becomes addicted to gambling, it is really bad, because, as we know, it is very difficult to get out of all addictions. Of course, the help of the family is then necessary. It is also very important to help such people. However, in my opinion, the task of the state is to regulate the law and advertising of gambling so as not to lead to addiction. So, in my opinion, such advertising should be kept to a minimum or even prohibited. Then it would be much safer and there would be less cases of addiction.
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Not really because I often see people from the lower middle class often playing traditional gambling in the hope that they can win some money. Education plays a role in the existence of awareness about the dangers of gambling and if they can have adequate education, they will see gambling as something they should stay away from. In addition, the income they get will not be used for gambling because it will be better to buy their daily needs.

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That's right. By spending time with them, we will not think about gambling because we have found fun with them. By playing with them, we don't have to spend money or lose money because we can already have fun. Everyone doesn't want to lose in gambling, so it's true that we don't have to play gambling if we don't want to see or get lost.

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We will not be able to imagine what would happen if other people or even ourselves become addicted because the consequences will be different for each person. Help from the family is needed to help people who are addicted to gambling overcome it but it will depend on the person who is addicted to gambling whether or not he wants to tell his family about his difficulties. Before the state makes laws, it would be nice if the government could discuss with all relevant parties so that no one will be disappointed with the regulations that will be made. And of course, it can help minimize people who can get addicted to gambling.



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This law is a good one because children can become addicted to gambling very easily. Children don't know exceptions or boundaries in using thier finances on gambling. Addiction to gambling can easily lead a child to other crimes. Sports celebraties are the role models of every sports loving child and they can be easily influenced by these sports stars. Any product these stars promotes would be accepted by these innocent young children.
it may decrease the number of forthcoming gamblers who is not adult but it is impossible to stop from being addicted to the child who are not adult. Restriction of anything can keep few people away but it cant stopped all the people. Addition of gambling is not preventable fully.
kids are very clever these days. Even my 10 years old nephew teaches his grandparents how to use the apps and how to respond.
These kids are 21 century kids - they are hard to control so the only good think is counceling and telling them what is good for them and what not.
Agreed, I mean even if there are some ways to try to restrict the websites that kids can access we cannot stop them from trying to access those same websites from other devices, so while parents can do their part the truth is that kids will always find a way around those restrictions, so the best parents can do is to try to teach their kids why accessing those websites is not a god idea and hope that they listen to them, and while many kids will listen there are many others that will not do it and will eventually get in trouble by gambling while they are underage.
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Not really because I often see people from the lower middle class often playing traditional gambling in the hope that they can win some money.
It is true that lower people class people often playing traditional gambling as they wish they will win but only few percentage people can be winner and even they can be win the lose those latter if they continued. And in maximum case maximum people continue gambling to win more and more but finally they make more loss.
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Not really because I often see people from the lower middle class often playing traditional gambling in the hope that they can win some money.
It is true that lower people class people often playing traditional gambling as they wish they will win but only few percentage people can be winner and even they can be win the lose those latter if they continued. And in maximum case maximum people continue gambling to win more and more but finally they make more loss.

Yes, this is true; I have noticed that those in the poor or lower classes are more likely to win money that is greater than their monthly income.A lot of people I know are big fans of Lotto and "Suertres," which involves guessing a three-number combination and winning big money if you get it right.Most of the people I know bet on this because they can win sometimes, which means they can buy something from it rather than relying on their low salaries.
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Most of lower class or middle class people thinks that they only using a small amount to bet and yet they can win a million from those small bets so it doesn't matter for them to place it but they didn't know that in long term the amount of what they are betting is increasing and ended up losing more. Going back to the topic, I really think sports stars should not advertise gambling and encourage people to play I am sure there is a lot of minor fans that would like to fllow their steps and will think gambling is a good step as their idol are promoting it.

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That's why gambling among the lower classes still exists today and the government has a hard time banning it because they can move around without the government knowing about it. Hopefully, those who gamble can realize their mistake and can reduce their habit of gambling and collect the money from their families. They should realize that gambling will not give them any money and that it is better for them to work and save money for their families.



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It will depend on how parents educate their children and if their children suffer from gambling addiction, they can find solutions to overcome their gambling addiction. Yes, that's correct. The family should provide support first so that he does not feel alone in overcoming his addiction. But sometimes, the addicted person to gambling does not want to tell their family because they feel it is not related to their family. It needs discussion with their family to know the problem and how to solve it.
It is not a fact for gambling either the gambler is educated or not. And those people who is addicted on gambling are maximum educated people. There is highest percentage of the gamblers are educated only few percentage of the gamblers might be not educated. So education can't play any vital role regarding gambling.
I disagree because no parent teach their kids to gambol, no good parents want their kids to tell a lie or to steal anything.
The teaching is a factor but not THE factor which make a kid gamblor or a lier. Sometime even very simple parents are in trouble because they couldn't believe their kid is involved in bad activities.

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Most of lower class or middle class people thinks that they only using a small amount to bet and yet they can win a million from those small bets so it doesn't matter for them to place it but they didn't know that in long term the amount of what they are betting is increasing and ended up losing more. Going back to the topic, I really think sports stars should not advertise gambling and encourage people to play I am sure there is a lot of minor fans that would like to fllow their steps and will think gambling is a good step as their idol are promoting it.
Yes, it is a good point, but it is not so bad that a player of any team or an athlete does it, some athletes promote clothing, such as underwear and that appears on TV, and in some way they are being exhibited, it is something that children have access to see because that's how they show it on TV, so if they start watching promotions on TV or wherever with their idols from now on, they won't see it so badly, what they'll think is that they want to be like them, we as parents must tell them and teach them about the value of money, how they can use it to have fun preventing them from falling into addiction, the important thing is to be there to guide them.

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