Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ? tactically ..

[sulis sudibyo]

Russia has a lot of resources ...ammo never finishes for russians ...you had Kiev in your hands why would you give it back ? ...no sense ...

from the very beginning the reason russia was at war with ukraine was not for that. This war exists because of the Russian form of protest because Ukraine wants to join NATO. And why don't they use full force, I don't think Russia wants its military power to be known by the Natos especially the US. after all, they are also trying so that civilians are not affected by the war. that's why they use this method.

[darewaller]

Maybe they finally realized that what they are doing is wrong so they aren't fighting back anymore but let Ukrainians to win the war. That is a nice thing actually but why do you want Russians to become more aggressive? I think you are out of your mind already and want this war to last longer. Do you feel good when some innocent people get injured or worst get killed? And how do you know that Russian have still lots of ammos left?

The war have run for quite sometime, so maybe they used all their ammo already and they are having a hard time of availing a new one because of they are in tight budget. You know, they are still in sanctions.

[molsewid]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?

Why the russians are allowing the ukrainens to win ... they had Kiev in their hands and then they retreat ,it makes no sense,tactically it makes no sense ... as a general i would have bombed Kiev like Mariupol or worse ...

Russia has a lot of resources ...ammo never finishes for russians ...you had Kiev in your hands why would you give it back ? ...no sense ...


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/2/why-hasnt-russia-mobilised-its-vast-air-power-against-ukraine

Maybe because they don't want to put too much and spent too much in this war , everyone knows that Russia is a big country but has many countries that is not in good terms or should I say they have an enemy countries such as US, they need to secure their country for having a backdoor attacks, in a war they should not give all their resources .

[mm2543363580]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?

Why the russians are allowing the ukrainens to win ... they had Kiev in their hands and then they retreat ,it makes no sense,tactically it makes no sense ... as a general i would have bombed Kiev like Mariupol or worse ...

Russia has a lot of resources ...ammo never finishes for russians ...you had Kiev in your hands why would you give it back ? ...no sense ...


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/2/why-hasnt-russia-mobilised-its-vast-air-power-against-ukraine

Maybe because they don't want to put too much and spent too much in this war , everyone knows that Russia is a big country but has many countries that is not in good terms or should I say they have an enemy countries such as US, they need to secure their country for having a backdoor attacks, in a war they should not give all their resources .

Russia should stop by now. Enough damage has been done already.
If they have not used their full force and the damage done is irreparable - What would have happen if they would have used the whole force, The earth need time to heal.

[be.open]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?

Why the russians are allowing the ukrainens to win ... they had Kiev in their hands and then they retreat ,it makes no sense,tactically it makes no sense ... as a general i would have bombed Kiev like Mariupol or worse ...

Russia has a lot of resources ...ammo never finishes for russians ...you had Kiev in your hands why would you give it back ? ...no sense ...


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/2/why-hasnt-russia-mobilised-its-vast-air-power-against-ukraine

Russia is using soft power tactics to sway the sympathies of Ukrainian civilians. Therefore, the Kherson region has already announced its withdrawal from Ukraine and the desire to join Russia. Russia acts in Ukraine not as an occupier, but as a liberator. This is much more difficult and longer than bombing everything with air bombs and cleaning up the ruins. But in the long run, it's a winning strategy.

[suchmoon]

Russia is using soft power tactics to sway the sympathies of Ukrainian civilians. Therefore, the Kherson region has already announced its withdrawal from Ukraine and the desire to join Russia.

Not "Kherson region", but a puppet government installed by Russians.

Russia acts in Ukraine not as an occupier, but as a liberator. This is much more difficult and longer than bombing everything with air bombs and cleaning up the ruins. But in the long run, it's a winning strategy.

Except out here in the real world they bombed and shelled Mariupol for two months.

[be.open]

Russia is using soft power tactics to sway the sympathies of Ukrainian civilians. Therefore, the Kherson region has already announced its withdrawal from Ukraine and the desire to join Russia.

Not "Kherson region", but a puppet government installed by Russians.

The dog barks, the caravan moves on. Residents of the Kherson region will have a chance to express their will in a referendum. In the meantime, Ukraine has stopped paying pensions and social benefits to residents of the Kherson region, and Russia is doing this for Ukraine. And Ukraine shoots at residential areas, this is the only thing it knows how to do well.

Russia acts in Ukraine not as an occupier, but as a liberator. This is much more difficult and longer than bombing everything with air bombs and cleaning up the ruins. But in the long run, it's a winning strategy.

Except out here in the real world they bombed and shelled Mariupol for two months.

Mariupol was not bombed, Azovstal was bombed.

[suchmoon]

Kherson region has already announced its withdrawal from Ukraine and the desire to join Russia.

Residents of the Kherson region will have a chance to express their will in a referendum.

Russian "liberation" in all its beauty. They already know the will of the people, who lived peacefully just a few months ago and didn't have any intent "to join Russia", but now they suddenly do.

Mariupol was not bombed, Azovstal was bombed.

Right, nearly every building in Mariupol decided to just randomly catch fire or otherwise destroy itself, like the infamous underwater missile cruiser.

[be.open]

Kherson region has already announced its withdrawal from Ukraine and the desire to join Russia.

Residents of the Kherson region will have a chance to express their will in a referendum.

Russian "liberation" in all its beauty. They already know the will of the people, who lived peacefully just a few months ago and didn't have any intent "to join Russia",

It seems that ordinary peaceful people, not affected by the virus of radical nationalism, absolutely do not care what flag they live under, as long as they are not shot at. Russians do not shoot at civilians, Ukrainians shoot, I think their choice is obvious. But there will still be a referendum.

Mariupol was not bombed, Azovstal was bombed.

Right, nearly every building in Mariupol decided to just randomly catch fire or otherwise destroy itself, like the infamous underwater missile cruiser.

The peaceful life is being actively restored in the city, including electricity and water supply. Soon we will see who and what was hiding in the bunkers near Azovstal and who you are so actively protecting here. The underground thousand changed their minds about dying for the glory of the Fourth Reich.
 

[suchmoon]

It seems that ordinary peaceful people, not affected by the virus of radical nationalism, absolutely do not care what flag they live under, as long as they are not shot at. Russians do not shoot at civilians, Ukrainians shoot, I think their choice is obvious.

No one was shooting at civilians in Kherson until Russians came and started it: https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/03/21/kherson-ukraine-explosion-gunfire-newsroom-berman-vpx.cnn

It seems that peaceful life is being actively restored in the city, including electricity and water supply. Soon we will see who and what was hiding in the bunkers near Azovstal and who you are so actively protecting here.

Yes, invaders trying to turn the power on for their HQ and setting apartments on fire: https://t.me/andriyshTime/892

Pyccкий миp.

[be.open]

It seems that ordinary peaceful people, not affected by the virus of radical nationalism, absolutely do not care what flag they live under, as long as they are not shot at. Russians do not shoot at civilians, Ukrainians shoot, I think their choice is obvious.

No one was shooting at civilians in Kherson until Russians came and started it: https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/03/21/kherson-ukraine-explosion-gunfire-newsroom-berman-vpx.cnn

It seems that peaceful life is being actively restored in the city, including electricity and water supply. Soon we will see who and what was hiding in the bunkers near Azovstal and who you are so actively protecting here.

Yes, invaders trying to turn the power on for their HQ and setting apartments on fire: https://t.me/andriyshTime/892

Pyccкий миp.

Are you paid for posts in this section in your bounty campaign? Let's move to the political section where you don't get paid to post, I don't want you to make money broadcasting your Nazi shit here. Moreover, the topic is clearly political and has nothing to do with economics. I hope for your understanding.

[suchmoon]

Are you paid for posts in this section in your bounty campaign? Let's move to the political section where you don't get paid to post, I don't want you to make money broadcasting your Nazi shit here. Moreover, the topic is clearly political and has nothing to do with economics. I hope for your understanding.

You can report the thread or the posts to moderators if you think this is the wrong board, but it's quite telling that after all your "arguments" have been debunked you're now resorting to personal attacks and insinuations about my posts. There is nothing "nazi" about challenging and disproving your lies. We've done this in the "political section" for weeks.  

tl;dr: Russia's "full force" is on display and the only thing it can do with any degree of "success" is to kill unarmed civilians and loot their homes. When met with proper resistance, Russians run like they did near Kyiv and Kharkiv.

[Desmong]

Because Russians are not Americans.

Casualties:
- Russia in Ukraine: ~ 2300
- USA in Iraq: the numbers range from 151,000 to over 1,000,000

Enough said.

What do you think of Russian government?
Do you think that Russia ca not send ballistic missiles to Kiev in a twinkle of an eye and everywhere will become deserted?
Putin has the power and forces to invade Ukraine successfully but he underated Ukraine capability.
The world is already against Russia government so there will be no need to going too far when Kiev can not be suppressed for long.
We don't need to compare whose is the most powerful here but to condemn the act of violence against human right.

[24Kt]

Because Russians are not Americans.

Casualties:
- Russia in Ukraine: ~ 2300
- USA in Iraq: the numbers range from 151,000 to over 1,000,000

Enough said.

What do you think of Russian government?
Do you think that Russia ca not send ballistic missiles to Kiev in a twinkle of an eye and everywhere will become deserted?
Putin has the power and forces to invade Ukraine successfully but he underated Ukraine capability.
The world is already against Russia government so there will be no need to going too far when Kiev can not be suppressed for long.
We don't need to compare whose is the most powerful here but to condemn the act of violence against human right.

But what is the signal or major reason to stop Putin about this war? I have the feeling that he won't stop as when his health rumors came to light, I feel that he is being suicidal here. No matter what the world will remember him, good or bad, as long as he is part of the history books, that's fine for him. So I don't know who can change his mind now. Maybe, he will continue to send troops up until he died of his "sickness" as media is suggesting he has blood cancer.

[ajochems]

Russia want to control the Ukraine with some manner. Some they refuse to come out from their. Russia was became a blood cancer to the Ukraine now, the rest of the nation should have his hand for the solve of the issue. It was keep thinking by the UN Security Council. NATO had a power to do this unique war, but they was thought. It may leads to the world war for the time concern.

[DrBeer]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?

Why the russians are allowing the ukrainens to win ... they had Kiev in their hands and then they retreat ,it makes no sense,tactically it makes no sense ... as a general i would have bombed Kiev like Mariupol or worse ...

Russia has a lot of resources ...ammo never finishes for russians ...you had Kiev in your hands why would you give it back ? ...no sense ...


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/2/why-hasnt-russia-mobilised-its-vast-air-power-against-ukraine

Russia is using soft power tactics to sway the sympathies of Ukrainian civilians. Therefore, the Kherson region has already announced its withdrawal from Ukraine and the desire to join Russia. Russia acts in Ukraine not as an occupier, but as a liberator. This is much more difficult and longer than bombing everything with air bombs and cleaning up the ruins. But in the long run, it's a winning strategy.

Mariupol - more than 30,000 civilians killed. And there has not yet been an investigation into the cause of death. I am sure that when they are carried out, the Nazi sadists, against the background of their heirs of the Rashists, will seem like petty hooligans ...
Irpin and Bucha - hundreds of civilians killed (these are small towns near Kyiv). Killed in a sadistic way, hands tied behind their backs, usually shot in the back of the head. I saw this personally, in the first days after the liberation of Irpin ...
In basements and other "secluded places" - a lot of corpses with terrible signs of torture. This is all recorded, and all those responsible will be punished, if not by international courts, then by alternative means.
Arrivals of rockets in RESIDENTIAL houses ...

Doesn't it seem to you a strange method of achieving sympathy?
Well, about Kherson and the Kherson region - I understand that the concept of any supporter of the Russian world is to lie, everywhere, always, and cynically, but not in the same stupid way ?! In Kherson, they already tried to bring bio-garbage from the DPR / LPR, which were supposed to create the appearance of crowds of local residents and hold another fake referendum. We know perfectly well that the Kremlin parody of Hitler will try to repeat this clowning and proclaim new "republics", but we all know that not a single normal person, in normal mental health, would agree to become part of Russia and live in Russia - this is a terrible punishment, and for life


And about the "liberators" - tell me, whom is Russia freeing in Ukraine? There is no need for Russian speakers - I myself am an ethnic Russian, Russian speaker, and I have never seen any harassment in Ukraine! But the sadism of the Russians-I saw. So who are they freeing here and from whom?

[tardezyx]

What do you think of Russian government?
Do you think that Russia ca not send ballistic missiles to Kiev in a twinkle of an eye and everywhere will become deserted?
Putin has the power and forces to invade Ukraine successfully but he underated Ukraine capability.
The world is already against Russia government so there will be no need to going too far when Kiev can not be suppressed for long.
We don't need to compare whose is the most powerful here but to condemn the act of violence against human right.

Indeed, so - as already explained by others - Ukrainians are the Russian brothers and therefore it is comprehensible why the Russians did not attack infrastructure which is essential for the Ukranians like power plants or communication systems. In fact, they directly attacked the cities when the Ukrainians retreated within those (and therefore, at least partly, provoked civile casualties - especially when hiding in hospitals and schools) and one could argue that this guerilla tactic was the only defence option left for the Ukrainians. For Kiev it was to bind Ukrainian troops from defending the southeastern region. It was never about conquering Kiev.

For those who wonder why there seem so many vehicles lost by the Russians - they have a completely different tank strategy: the Western strategy relies on high-tech as-long-as-possible-operationable tanks while the Eastern strategy relies on the whole formation where a single tank is not essential and losses (vehicles and soldiers) are part of the strategy of mass formation attacks with cheap equipment in order to be able to make huge breakthroughs with it (background: formidable battle formations against NATO). In contrast, they are not suitable for operations with guerrilla tactics.

[suchmoon]

It was never about conquering Kiev.

Quit lying for Putin, he doesn't love you anyway. Of course Russians wanted to take Kyiv and close the "kettle" along Dnipro. Didn't work out, nor did any of the reduced plans of encirclement.

For those who wonder why there seem so many vehicles lost by the Russians - they have a completely different tank strategy: the Western strategy relies on high-tech as-long-as-possible-operationable tanks while the Eastern strategy relies on the whole formation where a single tank is not essential and losses (vehicles and soldiers) are part of the strategy of mass formation attacks with cheap equipment in order to be able to make huge breakthroughs with it (background: formidable battle formations against NATO). In contrast, they are not suitable for operations with guerrilla tactics.

"Single tank is not essential" but they already lost 1000+, is that "essential"? Didn't make any huge breakthroughs either. Damn Ukrainians are not fighting the way it would be convenient for Russians, how shocking.

[be.open]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?

Why the russians are allowing the ukrainens to win ... they had Kiev in their hands and then they retreat ,it makes no sense,tactically it makes no sense ... as a general i would have bombed Kiev like Mariupol or worse ...

Russia has a lot of resources ...ammo never finishes for russians ...you had Kiev in your hands why would you give it back ? ...no sense ...


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/2/why-hasnt-russia-mobilised-its-vast-air-power-against-ukraine

Russia is using soft power tactics to sway the sympathies of Ukrainian civilians. Therefore, the Kherson region has already announced its withdrawal from Ukraine and the desire to join Russia. Russia acts in Ukraine not as an occupier, but as a liberator. This is much more difficult and longer than bombing everything with air bombs and cleaning up the ruins. But in the long run, it's a winning strategy.

Mariupol - more than 30,000 civilians killed. And there has not yet been an investigation into the cause of death. I am sure that when they are carried out, the Nazi sadists, against the background of their heirs of the Rashists, will seem like petty hooligans ...
Irpin and Bucha - hundreds of civilians killed (these are small towns near Kyiv). Killed in a sadistic way, hands tied behind their backs, usually shot in the back of the head. I saw this personally, in the first days after the liberation of Irpin ...
In basements and other "secluded places" - a lot of corpses with terrible signs of torture. This is all recorded, and all those responsible will be punished, if not by international courts, then by alternative means.
Arrivals of rockets in RESIDENTIAL houses ...

Doesn't it seem to you a strange method of achieving sympathy?
Well, about Kherson and the Kherson region - I understand that the concept of any supporter of the Russian world is to lie, everywhere, always, and cynically, but not in the same stupid way ?! In Kherson, they already tried to bring bio-garbage from the DPR / LPR, which were supposed to create the appearance of crowds of local residents and hold another fake referendum. We know perfectly well that the Kremlin parody of Hitler will try to repeat this clowning and proclaim new "republics", but we all know that not a single normal person, in normal mental health, would agree to become part of Russia and live in Russia - this is a terrible punishment, and for life


And about the "liberators" - tell me, whom is Russia freeing in Ukraine? There is no need for Russian speakers - I myself am an ethnic Russian, Russian speaker, and I have never seen any harassment in Ukraine! But the sadism of the Russians-I saw. So who are they freeing here and from whom?

All your accusations are essentially groundless, and the evidence is fabricated by Ukrainian propaganda, for which lying is the only activity available. It is doubly funny that today the mass surrender of the Nazis of Azov in Mariupol and all of them will be interrogated in the DPR for war crimes. In conjunction with a package of accusations of the activities of biological laboratories in Ukraine, where experiments were performed on patients in a mental hospital near Kharkov, etc. I think this will pull on the Nuremberg trials two, which will be initiated by Russia following the results of a special operation. Ukraine is bankrupt and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will soon be defeated in the Donbass. Even individual tactical successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not change its overall losing strategy and the situation since the end of February. The soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the eastern front are already tired, demoralized, deprived of rotation and the ability to maneuver.

[suchmoon]

I think this will pull on the Nuremberg trials two, which will be initiated by Russia following the results of a special operation. Ukraine is bankrupt and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will soon be defeated in the Donbass. Even individual tactical successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not change its overall losing strategy and the situation since the end of February. The soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the eastern front are already tired, demoralized, deprived of rotation and the ability to maneuver.

Seems like a very acute case of projection. Flip "Ukraine" for "Russia" and it's about right. Russian forces have no backup plan, and their main "strategy" of sending waves of cannon fodder is failing miserably.