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Small farm? My relatives are engaged in agriculture. Their land, their fields, their cows and other living creatures. I can tell you - I probably could not stand it! Getting up at 5 in the morning, going to bed at 12 at night, and working hard all day - few people agree to this. I think that you are talking about the inhabitants of cities. All that urban residents can afford is a small "garden" on the balcony or roof of the house, where in the summer they will grow the simplest and most unpretentious vegetables, and in absolutely small volumes. But you won't grow bread, you won't raise cows and you won't get milk to make cottage cheese, kefir, butter, you won't grow olives or sunflowers and you won't get their bottom butter for salad or cooking other dishes. This direction will not give "salvation". Well, or the residents of the city need to migrate to the villages, and there they are engaged in self-sufficiency by leading a farm
I can agree to this. Cows need to be milked quite early, like 5am or 5:30am. Unless the farm is quite large, that is stretching for thousands of hectares, there is no point in employing additional labor. All the labor requirements need to be met within the family of the farmer. And small scale farming can be one of the riskiest career options, because of the volatility in prices. For example, wheat is trading at $500 per tonne as of now. A few years ago, it was trading at $150 to $200 per tonne. The same can be said about several other agricultural commodities.
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June 18, 2022, 08:31:18 AM |
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Just as the most recent development I have seen in life is happening, which is where I see the cost of natural goods or foodstuffs increasing day by day, many people are still unable to generate an income to satisfy. current change. Some sources I find it amusing about what happened after the war between Russia and Ukraine. When the sanctions were in place, the countries that tried to isolate Russia were doing themselves more harm than good. while Russia, India, and China are the more unscrupulous beneficiaries. They embargo fuel and oil or gas from Russia but buy it through another form from India, and China is benefiting from the shipping deals, so the show from the top when deciding to determine whether economic sanctions bring good value or only cause inflation to increase and lead only to more suffering. If the bigotry situation from some parties is not resolved satisfactorily, food will be a major battleground.
Sanctions have no purpose - to give a positive effect to the country that introduces them. Sanctions are a deterrent to the other side. And very often - sanctions are a "double-edged sword", the second end of sanctions always hits the participants in the implementation of sanctions. But it is necessary to stop the new brown plague, in the form of rashism! Even such a not very safe mechanism as sanctions. Otherwise, we will get the second year of 1939, and already hundreds of millions have been killed, and even more have lost everything, are starving, and no longer have any future. Look at this problem a little more globally ...
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June 18, 2022, 03:10:39 PM |
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Small farm? My relatives are engaged in agriculture. Their land, their fields, their cows and other living creatures. I can tell you - I probably could not stand it! Getting up at 5 in the morning, going to bed at 12 at night, and working hard all day - few people agree to this. I think that you are talking about the inhabitants of cities. All that urban residents can afford is a small "garden" on the balcony or roof of the house, where in the summer they will grow the simplest and most unpretentious vegetables, and in absolutely small volumes. But you won't grow bread, you won't raise cows and you won't get milk to make cottage cheese, kefir, butter, you won't grow olives or sunflowers and you won't get their bottom butter for salad or cooking other dishes. This direction will not give "salvation". Well, or the residents of the city need to migrate to the villages, and there they are engaged in self-sufficiency by leading a farm
I can agree to this. Cows need to be milked quite early, like 5am or 5:30am. Unless the farm is quite large, that is stretching for thousands of hectares, there is no point in employing additional labor. All the labor requirements need to be met within the family of the farmer. And small-scale farming can be one of the riskiest career options, because of the volatility in prices. For example, wheat is trading at $500 per tonne as of now. A few years ago, it was trading at $150 to $200 per tonne. The same can be said about several other agricultural commodities. Farm life is restless and too tiring. You won't have enough rest unless you get sick due to overfatigue. You have to handle the plants and take care of the farm animals which will take you long hours of work. Some people might say that it's an easy job but it's actually one of the hardest jobs I know yet they receive low payments for their labor. They still can't live the life they want because the government isn't fair when it comes to paying them.
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7. France is already telling Ukraine to give up defending so that maybe they can avert food crisis themselves! What?I don't know about France telling Ukraine to give up defending.This is probably fake news. The food prices around the globe will definitely increase a lot,but I think that you are exaggerating a little bit. Ukraine actually exports a part of it's own wheat production.The wheat is being transported to the Romanian port of Konstanza,where it will be transported by sea to the west.Perhaps a part of the Ukrainian wheat has been stolen by the Russians,but they have to sell it to countries in the Middle East(or China and India).Russia also needs more income from exporting goods,so the Russians have to sell their own wheat production. I don't expect global starvation, but food will become more and more expensive for sure. Funny situation is obtained in European countries with the provision of assistance to Ukraine. Europe helps Ukraine get rid of wheat. And what will the Ukrainians themselves eat if most of their fields are not sown this year and there is no harvest? This situation will create hunger, which can cause them serious problems. Ukraine has income from pumping Russian gas through its territory. And it still brings her income. Perhaps this country will have some money to buy food for its people thanks to Russia.
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June 18, 2022, 07:40:42 PM |
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I think food will be an issue for Europe only in case their enemies turn their lands infertile through bombing or chemical attacks and by invading allied countries which are weak militarily, but strong basic goods producers and exporters. Otherwise, automated machines and equipments, plus modern farming techniques can help the continent to be sustainable and independent.
About wheat in my country, specifically, it corresponds to one of the most imported goods, which costs about 2$ billion dollars for the country annually, representing about 44% of the total wheat supply. The other 56% are produced in the local territory. Indeed, it means a lot of dependency on imported wheat and a major crisis would be terrifying for the common citizens acquire this good, which I consider essential and indispensable in our daily meals.
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June 18, 2022, 08:27:11 PM |
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Small farm? My relatives are engaged in agriculture. Their land, their fields, their cows and other living creatures. I can tell you - I probably could not stand it! Getting up at 5 in the morning, going to bed at 12 at night, and working hard all day - few people agree to this. I think that you are talking about the inhabitants of cities. All that urban residents can afford is a small "garden" on the balcony or roof of the house, where in the summer they will grow the simplest and most unpretentious vegetables, and in absolutely small volumes. But you won't grow bread, you won't raise cows and you won't get milk to make cottage cheese, kefir, butter, you won't grow olives or sunflowers and you won't get their bottom butter for salad or cooking other dishes. This direction will not give "salvation". Well, or the residents of the city need to migrate to the villages, and there they are engaged in self-sufficiency by leading a farm
I can agree to this. Cows need to be milked quite early, like 5am or 5:30am. Unless the farm is quite large, that is stretching for thousands of hectares, there is no point in employing additional labor. All the labor requirements need to be met within the family of the farmer. And small scale farming can be one of the riskiest career options, because of the volatility in prices. For example, wheat is trading at $500 per tonne as of now. A few years ago, it was trading at $150 to $200 per tonne. The same can be said about several other agricultural commodities. Therefore, our choice is a couple of trays on the roof, with onions, spinach, lettuce and dill ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Minimum investment, extremely simple, and fresh herbs are always at hand. And agriculture has always been very difficult. Small farm - everyone is busy from early morning until night. A large agricultural complex - huge investments are needed - machinery, seed, fertilizers, personnel .... In a word - agriculture or farming becomes a savior only if there are no other options, you are ready with the whole family from dawn until late at night to work, work and work again ...
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June 19, 2022, 10:06:20 AM |
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7. France is already telling Ukraine to give up defending so that maybe they can avert food crisis themselves! What?I don't know about France telling Ukraine to give up defending.This is probably fake news. The food prices around the globe will definitely increase a lot,but I think that you are exaggerating a little bit. Ukraine actually exports a part of it's own wheat production.The wheat is being transported to the Romanian port of Konstanza,where it will be transported by sea to the west.Perhaps a part of the Ukrainian wheat has been stolen by the Russians,but they have to sell it to countries in the Middle East(or China and India).Russia also needs more income from exporting goods,so the Russians have to sell their own wheat production. I don't expect global starvation, but food will become more and more expensive for sure. Funny situation is obtained in European countries with the provision of assistance to Ukraine. Europe helps Ukraine get rid of wheat. And what will the Ukrainians themselves eat if most of their fields are not sown this year and there is no harvest? This situation will create hunger, which can cause them serious problems. Ukraine has income from pumping Russian gas through its territory. And it still brings her income. Perhaps this country will have some money to buy food for its people thanks to Russia. In Ukraine, about 90 percent of agricultural land has been sown this year compared to the previous year. The weather this year is normal, there will be a harvest in Ukraine. In the seaports of Ukraine, the Black Sea Fleet of Russia is now blocked about 22 million tons of grain, which Ukraine cannot supply to the world market. In addition, 39 ships belonging to 14 different states are also blocked by Russia in the ports of Ukraine. They cannot go to sea, because Russia has already fired on 9 ships of various states, one of them sank. Thus, Russia is now behaving in the Black Sea like a pirate who hunts robbery. At the same time, it is creating tensions with food and even the threat of starvation in some countries, trying to get some sanctions lifted from itself. This will not work in Russia. Ukraine is now striving to completely break any ties with Russia, including trade ones. From July 1, Ukraine plans to introduce a visa regime with Russia. Now Ukraine, on the contrary, would be very happy to close the gas pipelines that transport gas from Russia to Europe so that Europe does not finance Russian aggression. This may very well be the case in the near future.
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June 19, 2022, 10:18:45 AM |
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Ukraine is now striving to completely break any ties with Russia, including trade ones. From July 1, Ukraine plans to introduce a visa regime with Russia. Now Ukraine, on the contrary, would be very happy to close the gas pipelines that transport gas from Russia to Europe so that Europe does not finance Russian aggression. This may very well be the case in the near future.
I believe Ukraine is already in so much trouble and doing so - they will end up in more crisis. There is no alternative of oil and gas and that in so short time period - EU has also created so much trouble for themselves and for the other world by jumping in this whirlpool of trouble.
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June 19, 2022, 06:17:55 PM |
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7. France is already telling Ukraine to give up defending so that maybe they can avert food crisis themselves! What?I don't know about France telling Ukraine to give up defending.This is probably fake news. The food prices around the globe will definitely increase a lot,but I think that you are exaggerating a little bit. Ukraine actually exports a part of it's own wheat production.The wheat is being transported to the Romanian port of Konstanza,where it will be transported by sea to the west.Perhaps a part of the Ukrainian wheat has been stolen by the Russians,but they have to sell it to countries in the Middle East(or China and India).Russia also needs more income from exporting goods,so the Russians have to sell their own wheat production. I don't expect global starvation, but food will become more and more expensive for sure. Funny situation is obtained in European countries with the provision of assistance to Ukraine. Europe helps Ukraine get rid of wheat. And what will the Ukrainians themselves eat if most of their fields are not sown this year and there is no harvest? This situation will create hunger, which can cause them serious problems. Ukraine has income from pumping Russian gas through its territory. And it still brings her income. Perhaps this country will have some money to buy food for its people thanks to Russia. In Ukraine, about 90 percent of agricultural land has been sown this year compared to the previous year. The weather this year is normal, there will be a harvest in Ukraine. In the seaports of Ukraine, the Black Sea Fleet of Russia is now blocked about 22 million tons of grain, which Ukraine cannot supply to the world market. In addition, 39 ships belonging to 14 different states are also blocked by Russia in the ports of Ukraine. They cannot go to sea, because Russia has already fired on 9 ships of various states, one of them sank. Thus, Russia is now behaving in the Black Sea like a pirate who hunts robbery. At the same time, it is creating tensions with food and even the threat of starvation in some countries, trying to get some sanctions lifted from itself. This will not work in Russia. Ukraine is now striving to completely break any ties with Russia, including trade ones. From July 1, Ukraine plans to introduce a visa regime with Russia. Now Ukraine, on the contrary, would be very happy to close the gas pipelines that transport gas from Russia to Europe so that Europe does not finance Russian aggression. This may very well be the case in the near future. I would not hope for these crops. Perhaps by the end of the summer only ashes will remain of them. There is a war on the territory of this country and there is no guarantee that the crop will be able to save. It is surprising that Ukraine sends its grain to other countries. It's too complicated for me to understand ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 19, 2022, 08:35:24 PM |
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Everything will be fine. There will be no crisis. Hardly it happens that food crisis happen. Even of does. There are always help available and also there are already so much alternative available that people would make sure things won't get out of control.
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June 20, 2022, 07:53:49 AM |
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Ukraine is now striving to completely break any ties with Russia, including trade ones. From July 1, Ukraine plans to introduce a visa regime with Russia. Now Ukraine, on the contrary, would be very happy to close the gas pipelines that transport gas from Russia to Europe so that Europe does not finance Russian aggression. This may very well be the case in the near future.
I think Europe wont be happy if Ukraine closes gas pipelines or will try to blackmail Europe with that. Imagine you are helping someone and he say "do more help or you will regret not doing it". If we roll back to WWII, the territory of Ukraine was also occupied. Were there wheat war during that time, or Ukraine has become one of major wheat exporters only in recent decades? This is topic is already month old and I wonder of analytics has already confirmed or denied the theory of wheat war?
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June 20, 2022, 11:35:25 AM |
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Ukraine is now striving to completely break any ties with Russia, including trade ones. From July 1, Ukraine plans to introduce a visa regime with Russia. Now Ukraine, on the contrary, would be very happy to close the gas pipelines that transport gas from Russia to Europe so that Europe does not finance Russian aggression. This may very well be the case in the near future.
I think Europe wont be happy if Ukraine closes gas pipelines or will try to blackmail Europe with that. Imagine you are helping someone and he say "do more help or you will regret not doing it". If we roll back to WWII, the territory of Ukraine was also occupied. Were there wheat war during that time, or Ukraine has become one of major wheat exporters only in recent decades? This is topic is already month old and I wonder of analytics has already confirmed or denied the theory of wheat war? In our culture there is a famous saying - if you do good to someone - save yourself from the person too. He might be dangerous too. Every country is looking for their benefits from the war. It would be no surprise if they blackmail EU for the gas pipeline. I am sure this is going to happen.
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Of course I can, in Ukraine, Russia does not carry out massive bombing strikes, so as not to damage civilian infrastructure. The only case so far when Russia used air bombs in Ukraine at all was the bombing of the Azovstal plant in Mariupol.
Ukraine won the heart of almost the whole EU, and everyone turned against Russia. Here I want to draw attention that there are so many countries in the other part of the world where the war has been going on since ages and there is no end to it. Those are also humans! Just an other dimensions. The war in Ukraine is very different from many wars that still periodically take place in different countries. Firstly, this is the center of Europe, and the Russian attack was under a far-fetched pretext to seize the territory of a large neighboring state, genocide its population and forcibly annex its territory. Secondly, the large scale of the war due to the large territory and large population of Ukraine, which is home to about 40 million people. Ukraine now has a front of 2,450 kilometers, of which 1,150 kilometers are active battles. Russia has already lost about 100,000 people killed and wounded, 1,434 tanks, 3,503 armored vehicles, 213 aircraft, 179 helicopters, 721 artillery systems, 229 multiple launch rocket systems, 97 air defense systems, 2,473 vehicles, 588 UAVs and other military equipment. Russia is very bogged down in this war and is already gathering people and obsolete military equipment from the most remote parts of its vast territory. But anyway, it continues to threaten all its new neighbors, namely Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, which are members of NATO. Therefore, the Third World War is quite possible. I don't think there is a possible war between Russia and NATO in the near future. Most of the weapons were sent to Ukraine and became unusable or passed into the hands of the Russian army. Every day soldiers of the Ukrainian army throwing away weapon and leave the battlefield. Army remained only in France, who will wage war from NATO?
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June 20, 2022, 05:32:53 PM |
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Ukraine is now striving to completely break any ties with Russia, including trade ones. From July 1, Ukraine plans to introduce a visa regime with Russia. Now Ukraine, on the contrary, would be very happy to close the gas pipelines that transport gas from Russia to Europe so that Europe does not finance Russian aggression. This may very well be the case in the near future.
I think Europe wont be happy if Ukraine closes gas pipelines or will try to blackmail Europe with that. Imagine you are helping someone and he say "do more help or you will regret not doing it". If we roll back to WWII, the territory of Ukraine was also occupied. Were there wheat war during that time, or Ukraine has become one of major wheat exporters only in recent decades? This is topic is already month old and I wonder of analytics has already confirmed or denied the theory of wheat war? In our culture there is a famous saying - if you do good to someone - save yourself from the person too. He might be dangerous too. Every country is looking for their benefits from the war. It would be no surprise if they blackmail EU for the gas pipeline. I am sure this is going to happen. Yes, basically it has become an open secret because when war will always have something to do with politics, each country involved certainly has a goal and seeks to benefit from it as well. so no need to be surprised because that's the truth
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Yes, basically it has become an open secret because when war will always have something to do with politics, each country involved certainly has a goal and seeks to benefit from it as well. so no need to be surprised because that's the truth
On the other hand I believe the Russia Ukraine war has almost drag everyone in it. While the things would have possible solution through dialogues. They took the other channel and destroyed the world. The after affect of COVID are still there and now this war and this prediction of wheat war. God knows how the things will be resolved.
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Most of the weapons were sent to Ukraine and became unusable or passed into the hands of the Russian army.
Where did you hear that load of bullcrap? That is not even close to remotely true. Why would the weapons that were sent to Ukraine become unusable? You would think that if the Russians had the weapons then all the fighting would stop with Ukraine's surrender due to not being able to fight back? Ukraine might not have a chance of winning the war without huge losses but the maps don't lie. Ukraine has become even more tough with all the weapon deliveries. So obviously the weapons are being used by Ukraine, quite successfully. You should not spread half-baked rumors. They can do great harm.
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This is topic is already month old and I wonder of analytics has already confirmed or denied the theory of wheat war?
Wheat War is the worse case scenario that we are still heading towards. Right now the food prices are constantly increasing in Europe and different members of EU are reporting inflation rates that are highest in the past 4 decades! Poverty is increasing too, for example 1.5 million families reached absolute poverty and became homeless in UK alone over the past months. This also increases social unrest which can be seen in the increased number of protests around EU. If another economic shock is given to EU, like if China decided to arbitrarily shut down their ports again or oil prices soared again due to another conflict elsewhere in an oil rich region, things could escalate a lot faster and we see a big crisis in EU.
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This is topic is already month old and I wonder of analytics has already confirmed or denied the theory of wheat war?
Wheat War is the worse case scenario that we are still heading towards. Right now the food prices are constantly increasing in Europe and different members of EU are reporting inflation rates that are highest in the past 4 decades! Poverty is increasing too, for example 1.5 million families reached absolute poverty and became homeless in UK alone over the past months. This also increases social unrest which can be seen in the increased number of protests around EU. If another economic shock is given to EU, like if China decided to arbitrarily shut down their ports again or oil prices soared again due to another conflict elsewhere in an oil rich region, things could escalate a lot faster and we see a big crisis in EU. We now live in the time where the food crisis is not possible. And my country is famous in the world for the charity and reaching to the people incase there is any support needed. I belong to the same community. I hope and pray this never happens. Amee.
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Ukraine is now striving to completely break any ties with Russia, including trade ones. From July 1, Ukraine plans to introduce a visa regime with Russia. Now Ukraine, on the contrary, would be very happy to close the gas pipelines that transport gas from Russia to Europe so that Europe does not finance Russian aggression. This may very well be the case in the near future.
I think Europe wont be happy if Ukraine closes gas pipelines or will try to blackmail Europe with that. Imagine you are helping someone and he say "do more help or you will regret not doing it". If we roll back to WWII, the territory of Ukraine was also occupied. Were there wheat war during that time, or Ukraine has become one of major wheat exporters only in recent decades? This is topic is already month old and I wonder of analytics has already confirmed or denied the theory of wheat war? At the moment, only Russia, as an aggressor country and a terrorist country, makes such steps and statements. Do not confuse the righteous with the sinful! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Russia has already blocked gas supplies to the EU, Russia has already unilaterally changed the terms of gas supplies, Russia has already captured part of a foreign state, and in addition to looting by its soldiers, it is engaged in state-level looting. From the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine, Russia has already stolen and taken out - grain, metal, agricultural equipment ... And its soldiers also steal toilet bowls - this is a wonder for the inhabitants of Russia ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) About the theft of used underwear - I am silent, this is the norm for Russians - they even our cast-offs are given to their wives ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Agriculture fertilizer in general is undervalued because of disruption from many factors not just this war. There is greater world GDP growth, growing populations and development of economies away from an agrarian self sufficiency economicy in terms of food more supply will be needed from those with land capable of mass production. Russia trying to bully a nearby country into its cartel influence for money making and power advantage is not out of character. The bigger problem might be global warming or altering weather patterns, this will alter current food production and require new land to be found and enriched.
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