Wheat War I is going to be World War III

[edgycorner]

I think a sugar crisis is more imminent than wheat.
Brazil is switching to ethanol production from Sugar. Only India can fulfill the void left by Brazil, but India has already restricted sugar export to keep the domestic price low and so has other producers.

I am guessing poor African countries will perish more than others, followed by the middle east  

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[inthelongrun]

I think the war is coming to an end within the next few months. Germany and other European countries are fearing shortages of gas supply this winter. I really think they are trying hard to persuade Zelensky and top Ukrainian officials to just give up Crimea and the rebel regions of Donbas and Luhansk in exchange for something like membership in the EU right away and committing billions of euros to rebuild its country. Russia needs to play its cards very well in the next few months if it wants to secure its primary objectives in Ukraine (e.g., Crimea, Donbas, Luhansk, and NATO ban on Ukraine). Russia needs to end this quickly before western Europe can find alternatives for their food, gas, and oil supplies. Food especially wheat maybe difficult to find and expensive nowadays but there will be some countries that can take advantage of this like Australia boosting its wheat supply. Oil and gas are everywhere, it only needs time to construct more ports and tunnels into Europe.

[bakasabo]

I think the war is coming to an end within the next few months. Germany and other European countries are fearing shortages of gas supply this winter. I really think they are trying hard to persuade Zelensky and top Ukrainian officials to just give up Crimea and the rebel regions of Donbas and Luhansk in exchange for something like membership in the EU right away and committing billions of euros to rebuild its country. Russia needs to play its cards very well in the next few months if it wants to secure its primary objectives in Ukraine (e.g., Crimea, Donbas, Luhansk, and NATO ban on Ukraine). Russia needs to end this quickly before western Europe can find alternatives for their food, gas, and oil supplies. Food especially wheat maybe difficult to find and expensive nowadays but there will be some countries that can take advantage of this like Australia boosting its wheat supply. Oil and gas are everywhere, it only needs time to construct more ports and tunnels into Europe.

That is stupid. Then why they were fighting since February ? They could have surrender, or give that land for free. I dont think this was is going to end soon. I expect the end or decrease of Ukraine support by other countries, but some countries will get profitable and unprofitable contracts for natural resources Russia export. Like war in Ukraine was just a reason to reconsider resources prices and other obligations, like this war was sort of an excuse to do something.

[Argoo]

I think the war is coming to an end within the next few months. Germany and other European countries are fearing shortages of gas supply this winter. I really think they are trying hard to persuade Zelensky and top Ukrainian officials to just give up Crimea and the rebel regions of Donbas and Luhansk in exchange for something like membership in the EU right away and committing billions of euros to rebuild its country. Russia needs to play its cards very well in the next few months if it wants to secure its primary objectives in Ukraine (e.g., Crimea, Donbas, Luhansk, and NATO ban on Ukraine). Russia needs to end this quickly before western Europe can find alternatives for their food, gas, and oil supplies. Food especially wheat maybe difficult to find and expensive nowadays but there will be some countries that can take advantage of this like Australia boosting its wheat supply. Oil and gas are everywhere, it only needs time to construct more ports and tunnels into Europe.

Recently, European countries have been looking for and successfully finding suppliers for their countries of oil and gas, so as not to buy them in Russia. These are Azerbaijan, USA, UAE, Egypt, Norway and other countries. There is really a lot of oil and gas in other countries besides Russia. Europe is now realizing what a mistake they made by becoming dependent on their supplies from Russia, and therefore they are looking for other options, even if they temporarily suffer losses.
In addition, Europe also understands that it is no longer possible to give in to Putin, otherwise, after Ukraine, they may already be subjected to military aggression. Therefore, although they are not quite friendly, they still strive to provide all possible military assistance to Ukraine in order to stop Putin with the hands of Ukrainians. At the cost of heavy losses, Ukraine succeeds, and Russia's military power is steadily approaching its collapse. No one is pressing Ukraine to make concessions to Putin's regime. These conclusions are incorrect.

[be.open]

I think the war is coming to an end within the next few months. Germany and other European countries are fearing shortages of gas supply this winter. I really think they are trying hard to persuade Zelensky and top Ukrainian officials to just give up Crimea and the rebel regions of Donbas and Luhansk in exchange for something like membership in the EU right away and committing billions of euros to rebuild its country. Russia needs to play its cards very well in the next few months if it wants to secure its primary objectives in Ukraine (e.g., Crimea, Donbas, Luhansk, and NATO ban on Ukraine). Russia needs to end this quickly before western Europe can find alternatives for their food, gas, and oil supplies. Food especially wheat maybe difficult to find and expensive nowadays but there will be some countries that can take advantage of this like Australia boosting its wheat supply. Oil and gas are everywhere, it only needs time to construct more ports and tunnels into Europe.

Recently, European countries have been looking for and successfully finding suppliers for their countries of oil and gas, so as not to buy them in Russia. These are Azerbaijan, USA, UAE, Egypt, Norway and other countries. There is really a lot of oil and gas in other countries besides Russia. Europe is now realizing what a mistake they made by becoming dependent on their supplies from Russia, and therefore they are looking for other options, even if they temporarily suffer losses.
In addition, Europe also understands that it is no longer possible to give in to Putin, otherwise, after Ukraine, they may already be subjected to military aggression. Therefore, although they are not quite friendly, they still strive to provide all possible military assistance to Ukraine in order to stop Putin with the hands of Ukrainians. At the cost of heavy losses, Ukraine succeeds, and Russia's military power is steadily approaching its collapse. No one is pressing Ukraine to make concessions to Putin's regime. These conclusions are incorrect.

Can you give specific examples of the success that Ukraine has achieved at the cost of heavy losses? Judging by the reports from the fronts, Ukraine is suffering one defeat after another, losing city after city, and every month plans for a decisive counteroffensive are postponed for an indefinite period.

A few words about oil.

1. Yesterday's news - Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, at the request of the United States, announced an increase in oil production to 13 million barrels per day (currently at 10 million). That is, the market will receive 3 million barrels more daily. Is it a lot or a little?
Let's calculate: The level of Russian oil supplies to the EU market is 2.4 million barrels (reference: According to the International Energy Agency (IEA), Russia exported 2.4 million barrels of oil per day to the EU in 2021 - this is slightly more than half of all exports). The total volume of daily sales is approximately 4.6 million barrels per day.
Answer: Saudi Arabia will replace 65% of ALL Russian oil, just by slightly raising production. Or 125% of the EU requirement. It is possible that part of the oil will also go to the United States, and farmers will be saved.

I already want to smoke that shit you smoke too.  

Saudi minister: we see lack of refining capacity in market, not lack of oil

Translation for wishful thinking: Saudi Arabia will adhere to the oil production schedule under the current OPEC + plan, while the crown prince promised Biden to increase capacity to 13 million barrels by 2027. In the language of diplomacy, this means politely sending a fuck so that the interlocutor has the taste of forest berries in his mouth.

[Sithara007]

That is stupid. Then why they were fighting since February ? They could have surrender, or give that land for free. I dont think this was is going to end soon. I expect the end or decrease of Ukraine support by other countries, but some countries will get profitable and unprofitable contracts for natural resources Russia export. Like war in Ukraine was just a reason to reconsider resources prices and other obligations, like this war was sort of an excuse to do something.

It is not stupid and going to the negotiation table will not be interpreted as surrender. Even with full NATO support, Ukraine has failed to halt advances by the Russian troops. Their regular army is all gone, and so are most of the neo-Nazi formations such as Azov and Aidar. Now the fighting is mostly being done by the reserve troops, who are suffering heavy casualties every day. What they need is an immediate ceasefire, so that further territorial and human losses can be prevented. If the fighting doesn't stop, Russia will simply conquer the entire South and East of Ukraine by the end of this year.

[bittraffic]

That is stupid. Then why they were fighting since February ? They could have surrender, or give that land for free. I dont think this was is going to end soon. I expect the end or decrease of Ukraine support by other countries, but some countries will get profitable and unprofitable contracts for natural resources Russia export. Like war in Ukraine was just a reason to reconsider resources prices and other obligations, like this war was sort of an excuse to do something.

It is not stupid and going to the negotiation table will not be interpreted as surrender. Even with full NATO support, Ukraine has failed to halt advances by the Russian troops. Their regular army is all gone, and so are most of the neo-Nazi formations such as Azov and Aidar. Now the fighting is mostly being done by the reserve troops, who are suffering heavy casualties every day. What they need is an immediate ceasefire, so that further territorial and human losses can be prevented. If the fighting doesn't stop, Russia will simply conquer the entire South and East of Ukraine by the end of this year.

That is if Zelenskyy surrenders, think about how we all supported Ukraine and then crash our country's economy because of our support to Ukraine and then all he does is surrender? He'd be branded all his life for that. Zelenskyy will not surrender but there were reports that his generals are going to usurp.

The hunger however will really make people crazy and will think of crazier ideas. The revolts may not be the result of inflation and lack of government's intervention to commodity prices but hunger will start making people steal food and money from the storage of the rich.

[Xampeuu]

That is stupid. Then why they were fighting since February ? They could have surrender, or give that land for free. I dont think this was is going to end soon. I expect the end or decrease of Ukraine support by other countries, but some countries will get profitable and unprofitable contracts for natural resources Russia export. Like war in Ukraine was just a reason to reconsider resources prices and other obligations, like this war was sort of an excuse to do something.

It is not stupid and going to the negotiation table will not be interpreted as surrender. Even with full NATO support, Ukraine has failed to halt advances by the Russian troops. Their regular army is all gone, and so are most of the neo-Nazi formations such as Azov and Aidar. Now the fighting is mostly being done by the reserve troops, who are suffering heavy casualties every day. What they need is an immediate ceasefire, so that further territorial and human losses can be prevented. If the fighting doesn't stop, Russia will simply conquer the entire South and East of Ukraine by the end of this year.

That is if Zelenskyy surrenders, think about how we all supported Ukraine and then crash our country's economy because of our support to Ukraine and then all he does is surrender? He'd be branded all his life for that. Zelenskyy will not surrender but there were reports that his generals are going to usurp.

The hunger however will really make people crazy and will think of crazier ideas. The revolts may not be the result of inflation and lack of government's intervention to commodity prices but hunger will start making people steal food and money from the storage of the rich.

The situation will worsen if the diplomatic route is not carried out immediately, this will not only have an impact on Ukraine but also destabilize the world. Of course, there is a goal to be achieved from the alibis of both parties. and unfortunately there must be victims from civil society who are actually the weakest. and it will be even more messy if the country supporting ukraine has energy difficulties because it depends a lot on russia, so this is not a simple chessboard

[Sithara007]

That is if Zelenskyy surrenders, think about how we all supported Ukraine and then crash our country's economy because of our support to Ukraine and then all he does is surrender? He'd be branded all his life for that. Zelenskyy will not surrender but there were reports that his generals are going to usurp.

The hunger however will really make people crazy and will think of crazier ideas. The revolts may not be the result of inflation and lack of government's intervention to commodity prices but hunger will start making people steal food and money from the storage of the rich.

Once again.. agreeing to a ceasefire is not a surrender. At this point, I don't see any benefit for Ukraine in continuing with the war. Ever day, they are suffering from around 200 military deaths. Some of the officials want to fight to the last Ukrainian, but is that the citizens really want? If a ceasefire is agreed at this point, then most probably Ukraine will be able to keep provinces such as Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Odessa and Mykolaiv. The longer this war lasts, the probability of territorial losses increase. Without the industrial heartland of East Ukraine, the survival of the country will be at risk in the long term.

[be.open]

That is if Zelenskyy surrenders, think about how we all supported Ukraine and then crash our country's economy because of our support to Ukraine and then all he does is surrender? He'd be branded all his life for that. Zelenskyy will not surrender but there were reports that his generals are going to usurp.

The hunger however will really make people crazy and will think of crazier ideas. The revolts may not be the result of inflation and lack of government's intervention to commodity prices but hunger will start making people steal food and money from the storage of the rich.

Once again.. agreeing to a ceasefire is not a surrender. At this point, I don't see any benefit for Ukraine in continuing with the war. Ever day, they are suffering from around 200 military deaths. Some of the officials want to fight to the last Ukrainian, but is that the citizens really want? If a ceasefire is agreed at this point, then most probably Ukraine will be able to keep provinces such as Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Odessa and Mykolaiv. The longer this war lasts, the probability of territorial losses increase. Without the industrial heartland of East Ukraine, the survival of the country will be at risk in the long term.

And what can Ukraine offer Russia in exchange for a ceasefire other than complete surrender? I do not think that a temporary truce will be of interest to Russia when its current military doctrine is showing its effectiveness. In addition, Odessa has a bill for the House of Trade Unions in 2014, and Ukraine will have to pay this bill in full.

[Argoo]

@be.open. By heavy losses on the part of Ukraine, I primarily meant the heavy losses of the civilian population and the destruction of civilian infrastructure, which the Russians are deliberately destroying in this war. Having failed to destroy the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Russian invaders began to systematically destroy the civilian population, including the elderly, women and children, especially pro-Ukrainian ones, in order to simply intimidate the Ukrainians and break their will to resist. These are purely fascist methods ...

Now about the successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. On February 24, Russia, without declaring war, attacked the northern, eastern and southern parts of Ukraine, including from Belarus, with the forces of eight of its most prepared armies for the attack, totaling up to 200,000 soldiers and officers. Moreover, all this army moved to Ukraine with endless columns of armored troops and other military special equipment. The calculation was for a quick, within 3-5 days, the capture of the main territory of Ukraine and a violent change of power in Ukraine. But a month later, Russian troops suffered a significant defeat in manpower and equipment and were forced to flee from the central and northern regions of Ukraine so as not to be completely defeated. Thus ended the first stage of this war, and this was the undoubted success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and all Ukrainians.

After that, having received a good rebuff and realizing that they could not capture all of Ukraine, the Putin regime concentrated the main blow on the eastern and southern parts of Ukraine in order to first of all completely capture the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine and, if possible, build a land corridor not only to the occupied since 2014 Crimea, but also Transnistria. But Russia has not yet fulfilled these already limited goals. Now Ukraine has a front with a total length of 2,450 kilometers, and the "second army of the world" has lost almost all of its elite troops and the best military equipment in Ukraine. We can say that the Russian offensive has almost run out of steam. The shortage in Russia is felt both in manpower and in technology. Russia has already thrown almost all of its reserves into Ukraine, while exposing all its regions militarily, and they are being successfully crushed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Russia removes from conservation and throws into Ukraine even the old T-62 tanks, which have been in service since the 50s of the last century, and is arming the new replenishment with Mosin rifles of the 1891 model.

During the five months of the war, Russia was unable to achieve any significant success at the front. Of the 25 regional centers of Ukraine, Russian troops only in the first days of a large-scale offensive were able to capture, with little or no resistance, only the regional center Kherson, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine are going to liberate in the near future.

During this time, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia lost 38,550 of its soldiers and officers alone in the dead. According to Russia itself, which is not made public, such losses amount to more than 54,000, and taking into account the wounded, this figure has already exceeded one hundred thousand people. At the same time, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 1,691 Russian tanks, 3,892 armored vehicles, 220 aircraft, 188 helicopters, 831 artillery systems, 249 MLRS, 113 air defense systems, 2,767 military vehicles, 693 UAVs, 15 ships and boats were destroyed.

And this is just the beginning. After receiving only a dozen HIMARS MLRS from the United States, over the past two weeks, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have destroyed over 20 different Russian ammunition depots. Because of this, the Russian ammunition depots are removed from the front line by 90 km, which greatly complicates their delivery to the front line, which is why they experience significant difficulties and their offensive is almost bogged down.
Let's see what happens in another two or three months.

[be.open]

@be.open. By heavy losses on the part of Ukraine, I primarily meant the heavy losses of the civilian population and the destruction of civilian infrastructure, which the Russians are deliberately destroying in this war. Having failed to destroy the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Russian invaders began to systematically destroy the civilian population, including the elderly, women and children, especially pro-Ukrainian ones, in order to simply intimidate the Ukrainians and break their will to resist. These are purely fascist methods ...

Now about the successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. On February 24, Russia, without declaring war, attacked the northern, eastern and southern parts of Ukraine, including from Belarus, with the forces of eight of its most prepared armies for the attack, totaling up to 200,000 soldiers and officers. Moreover, all this army moved to Ukraine with endless columns of armored troops and other military special equipment. The calculation was for a quick, within 3-5 days, the capture of the main territory of Ukraine and a violent change of power in Ukraine. But a month later, Russian troops suffered a significant defeat in manpower and equipment and were forced to flee from the central and northern regions of Ukraine so as not to be completely defeated. Thus ended the first stage of this war, and this was the undoubted success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and all Ukrainians.

Tell me, what is the source of this information about the hope of the Russians for a lightning blitzkrieg? I don't know of any statements from Russia that they expected to complete this operation in 3-5 days, maybe you can tell me? Or is this a common lie of Ukrainian propaganda?

At the end of April, Ukraine had a chance to end this armed conflict, when the negotiations in Istanbul turned out to be fruitful and common ground was found between the parties. Then Russia, as a gesture of goodwill, withdrew its troops from Kyiv and immediately received a provocation in Bucha.

After that, having received a good rebuff and realizing that they could not capture all of Ukraine, the Putin regime concentrated the main blow on the eastern and southern parts of Ukraine in order to first of all completely capture the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine and, if possible, build a land corridor not only to the occupied since 2014 Crimea, but also Transnistria. But Russia has not yet fulfilled these already limited goals. Now Ukraine has a front with a total length of 2,450 kilometers, and the "second army of the world" has lost almost all of its elite troops and the best military equipment in Ukraine. We can say that the Russian offensive has almost run out of steam. The shortage in Russia is felt both in manpower and in technology. Russia has already thrown almost all of its reserves into Ukraine, while exposing all its regions militarily, and they are being successfully crushed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Russia removes from conservation and throws into Ukraine even the old T-62 tanks, which have been in service since the 50s of the last century, and is arming the new replenishment with Mosin rifles of the 1891 model.

During the five months of the war, Russia was unable to achieve any significant success at the front. Of the 25 regional centers of Ukraine, Russian troops only in the first days of a large-scale offensive were able to capture, with little or no resistance, only the regional center Kherson, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine are going to liberate in the near future.

During this time, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia lost 38,550 of its soldiers and officers alone in the dead. According to Russia itself, which is not made public, such losses amount to more than 54,000, and taking into account the wounded, this figure has already exceeded one hundred thousand people. At the same time, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 1,691 Russian tanks, 3,892 armored vehicles, 220 aircraft, 188 helicopters, 831 artillery systems, 249 MLRS, 113 air defense systems, 2,767 military vehicles, 693 UAVs, 15 ships and boats were destroyed.

And this is just the beginning. After receiving only a dozen HIMARS MLRS from the United States, over the past two weeks, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have destroyed over 20 different Russian ammunition depots. Because of this, the Russian ammunition depots are removed from the front line by 90 km, which greatly complicates their delivery to the front line, which is why they experience significant difficulties and their offensive is almost bogged down.
Let's see what happens in another two or three months.

We can wait 2-3 years, time works for Russia. The problem for Ukraine is that its territorial losses after the breakdown of negotiations at the end of April will no longer be limited to the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Now Russia needs the entire south of Ukraine for a land corridor in Transnistria. Odessa is a Russian city. Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkiv and Kherson too. And you will have to learn to live in this new reality.

[DrBeer]

Look how interesting it turns out - you believe the idiotic propaganda from the Kremlin and take their statements as the only truth, but here "you still have to look" Do not measure everything in Russia - they systematically lie only in Russia! What you will soon see!

Your insisting on repeating the same idiotic statement is so funny. For your information they said they may increase production to 13 million bpd by 2027 meaning in 5 years not tomorrow or this month or this year.
Not to mention that Saudis are already at war with Yemen and each time they break the cease fire and bomb cities, the Yemenis retaliate by targeting the Saudi infrastructure that includes their oil facilities.

So yeah, we have to wait and see how much of it they can actually fulfill.
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For pretending to be adequate, I bring the information:
- "Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Salman agreed to increase production by about 4 million barrels per day - up to 13 million during a speech at the opening of the summit with Arab leaders," i.e. 1 million per year, starting in 2023. Converging? I continue

- "In a joint statement, Biden noted that Saudi Arabia has committed itself to maintaining the balance of the global oil market for stable economic growth. The kingdom will also increase oil production by 50% in July and August. This is expected to stabilize markets and prices. for oil." - you, as if adequate and not an idiot, understand what they are doing? July / August + 50% to current production - to form a reserve, most likely in the EU, in preparation for a ban on the supply of terrorist oil from January 2023. And then a systematic increase in production, with full compensation for the full need of the EU during the year. At the same time, you will soon find out that more oil will come to the EU market from ... Well, let it be a surprise for you .... September / October is not so long to wait already
But by mid-2023, it seems that Russia will pay extra to China and India to take their oil. Laugh "the smartest"

Yes, for the rest of your propaganda nonsense from this post, I just feel sorry for wasting time! Let your post remain just in history so that you can add up your portrait

[Sithara007]

For pretending to be adequate, I bring the information:
- "Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Salman agreed to increase production by about 4 million barrels per day - up to 13 million during a speech at the opening of the summit with Arab leaders," i.e. 1 million per year, starting in 2023. Converging? I continue
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Your numbers doesn't make sense. Saudi Arabia currently produces around 11 million barrels of oil per day. They can add another 2 million at the most (which I doubt), but this is not enough to replace the 11 million barrels that Russia pump every day.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-07-20/saudi-arabia-reveals-oil-output-is-near-its-ceiling

The first part of his announcement was well known. In 2020, Riyadh instructed its state-owned oil giant Saudi Aramco to embark on a multiyear, multibillion-dollar program to boost its maximum production capacity to 13 million barrels by 2027, up from 12 million. The project is ongoing, with the first small additions coming online in 2024 followed by larger ones in the following three years.

The first additions (very small albeit) are being planned for 2024 and it is still 2 years away. Most of the net additions are being scheduled for 2025-27. To summarize, Biden returned from Saudi Arabia empty handed. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told him to GTFO.

[pooya87]

I am guessing poor African countries will perish more than others, followed by the middle east 

I hesitate to predict these things but I can tell you that there are good plans in motion to prevent the catastrophe in both West Asia (aka Middle east) and Africa, at least Northern part. One of the plans is Iran increasing its production, recently we received 1 million hectare of fertile land for agriculture in one of the best places for it in Venezuela. That alone is equal to between 16% to 20% of what Ukraine used to produce (3-4 ton).
There are other similar cases.

Considering the fact that the domestic needs are already met, this extra production would most probably be sold in West Asia and Africa.

No one is pressing Ukraine to make concessions to Putin's regime.

I can't say what is considered "pressing" but on multiple occasions different politicians have told Zelensky to give up territories to Russia without resistance to end the war. The biggest example I can think of is the French president Emmanuel Macron.

[Oluwa-btc]

I think a sugar crisis is more imminent than wheat.
Brazil is switching to ethanol production from Sugar. Only India can fulfill the void left by Brazil, but India has already restricted sugar export to keep the domestic price low and so has other producers.

I am guessing poor African countries will perish more than others, followed by the middle east  

Some part's of Africa will strive surely in turbulent times since they less producers of almost every fvckn stuff's they use and consumes.
Zimbabwe's a good place that produces  and grows its own food they are big farmers when it comes to Agriculture in general, I'm not sure if they import them fertilizers used for farming by the way. But they can improvise by generating its own manures artificially using dead matters ( dead animals and plants all together in a pit dugged far away from them farms if not even close )

Nigerians are also good farmers but lately everyone looking for quick funds and have dumped Agriculture for quick cash not knowing that in the next ten years humans will still eat food. Honestly, Agriculture is a good investment if the right things are done.
We have some pretty good farmers in the Western part of Nigeria and also a part in the South called (Uyo).

[DrBeer]

For pretending to be adequate, I bring the information:
- "Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Salman agreed to increase production by about 4 million barrels per day - up to 13 million during a speech at the opening of the summit with Arab leaders," i.e. 1 million per year, starting in 2023. Converging? I continue
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Your numbers doesn't make sense. Saudi Arabia currently produces around 11 million barrels of oil per day. They can add another 2 million at the most (which I doubt), but this is not enough to replace the 11 million barrels that Russia pump every day.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-07-20/saudi-arabia-reveals-oil-output-is-near-its-ceiling

The first part of his announcement was well known. In 2020, Riyadh instructed its state-owned oil giant Saudi Aramco to embark on a multiyear, multibillion-dollar program to boost its maximum production capacity to 13 million barrels by 2027, up from 12 million. The project is ongoing, with the first small additions coming online in 2024 followed by larger ones in the following three years.

The first additions (very small albeit) are being planned for 2024 and it is still 2 years away. Most of the net additions are being scheduled for 2025-27. To summarize, Biden returned from Saudi Arabia empty handed. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told him to GTFO.

What touches me in the behavior of the victims of Russian propaganda is that even the original speech of the information carrier is "not true"! But the opinion of an "expert" built on propaganda stuffing is an undeniable truth ))

I will say this - if a person refuses reality and lives on far-fetched fakes - this is his personal problem. Also, his personal problem is cognitive dissonance, which he will sooner or later get, because. propaganda fakes will always be destroyed by reality. I look at such people with a smile - after all, sooner or later they have real problems, in real life, although in "pleasant soul" fakes everything should be fine

[Sithara007]

What touches me in the behavior of the victims of Russian propaganda is that even the original speech of the information carrier is "not true"! But the opinion of an "expert" built on propaganda stuffing is an undeniable truth ))

I will say this - if a person refuses reality and lives on far-fetched fakes - this is his personal problem. Also, his personal problem is cognitive dissonance, which he will sooner or later get, because. propaganda fakes will always be destroyed by reality. I look at such people with a smile - after all, sooner or later they have real problems, in real life, although in "pleasant soul" fakes everything should be fine

It is not propaganda, but common sense. Do you really want us to believe that Saudi Arabia will increase the production of it's main export commodity (crude oil), so that the market price will go down and finally result in less revenues for that country? Because of the sanctions, Saudi crude is now trading at a hefty premium to the Brent crude prices. Fortunately, the Europeans are picking up the bill, as most of the Asian buyers have shifted to crude from Russia, Iran and Iraq. You can check the prices here:

https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/#prices

[bittraffic]

What touches me in the behavior of the victims of Russian propaganda is that even the original speech of the information carrier is "not true"! But the opinion of an "expert" built on propaganda stuffing is an undeniable truth ))

I will say this - if a person refuses reality and lives on far-fetched fakes - this is his personal problem. Also, his personal problem is cognitive dissonance, which he will sooner or later get, because. propaganda fakes will always be destroyed by reality. I look at such people with a smile - after all, sooner or later they have real problems, in real life, although in "pleasant soul" fakes everything should be fine

It is not propaganda, but common sense. Do you really want us to believe that Saudi Arabia will increase the production of it's main export commodity (crude oil), so that the market price will go down and finally result in less revenues for that country? Because of the sanctions, Saudi crude is now trading at a hefty premium to the Brent crude prices. Fortunately, the Europeans are picking up the bill, as most of the Asian buyers have shifted to crude from Russia, Iran and Iraq. You can check the prices here:

https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/#prices

Saudi is a member of OPEC, literally a gas an oil cartel. There is nothing they would want but a higher price. Like any cartel in the world they would rather be hoarding something whether it be wheat, gas, oil or garlic to make more profit in the coming months.

In the news recently, Russia was trying to do the maintenance of the pipeline going to Germany, and rumor has it that they may not put it back again for whatever reason they may give. Of course, reason may be true or not but it will still be means like sanction as they were also sanctioned.
We're all losing here.

[Sithara007]

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In the news recently, Russia was trying to do the maintenance of the pipeline going to Germany, and rumor has it that they may not put it back again for whatever reason they may give. Of course, reason may be true or not but it will still be means like sanction as they were also sanctioned.
We're all losing here.

EU guys were getting paranoid for no concrete reason. Russia has resumed gas flows through Nord Stream. Similar to the case before 11th July, the pipeline will operate at 40% capacity, because Canada hasn't returned one of the turbines that was sent for repair. Now Russia is at a higher moral ground. Despite the sanctions being imposed on them by the EU, they are fulfilling their contract obligations. The US LNG exporters and Qatar is going to be bitterly disappointed, as they were dreaming of prices in the vicinity of $2,500 per thousand cubic meters.