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May 19, 2022, 12:23:33 PM
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There are a lot of people who have the same scenario and experience with this kind of situation and i guess they are the one who needs some help because even if they cant handle any more having a gambling addiction they need some support came from their friends and family to make sure they are really guided, its already in a different level. It is good if there's another way to entertain them not into the gambling because for sure they will urge to earn back their assets.

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May 19, 2022, 01:31:04 PM
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I have heard and even witnessed something like this happened. At the end of the day, it is the bettor who is at fault for falling into the trap set, but of course the gambling company has a lot of role to play in triggering the gamblers. Gamblers has the power to reject or let themselves be under the influence of their addiction once again. I just hire that they seek whatever help they need, especially professional help.

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May 19, 2022, 02:20:44 PM
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There are a lot of people who have the same scenario and experience with this kind of situation and i guess they are the one who needs some help because even if they cant handle any more having a gambling addiction they need some support came from their friends and family to make sure they are really guided, its already in a different level. It is good if there's another way to entertain them not into the gambling because for sure they will urge to earn back their assets.
They need assistance from family and relatives to help recover from gambling addiction, because only they can motivate him to get out of the dark life that destroys him from social relations between families, because the anger of gamblers cannot be controlled other than to obey his wishes. So if he is not able to recover himself from gambling addiction then he should be with the help of rehabilitation so that he does not linger in the badness of gambling.
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May 19, 2022, 02:25:23 PM
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I have heard and even witnessed something like this happened. At the end of the day, it is the bettor who is at fault for falling into the trap set, but of course the gambling company has a lot of role to play in triggering the gamblers. Gamblers has the power to reject or let themselves be under the influence of their addiction once again. I just hire that they seek whatever help they need, especially professional help.
We are in control of ourselves to be attracted or disinterested to play casino excessively without control, so casino companies are not involved in wrongdoing because they are not forcing someone to register a gambling member or not. All decisions are up to each one of them, so don't be influenced by anything that makes us active gambling addicts.

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May 19, 2022, 02:28:34 PM
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Boyle Sports just did their job, they don't care if what would happen to their gambler as long as they win. It's pure business for them, so us gamblers, we have to ensure that we are still responsible so we can only gamble what we can afford to lose.

Gambling is suppose to be an entertainment, but it's true that there are some people who are addicted to it, but it's not right to blame it all to the gambling sites as in the first place they are operating with permit, and the government are benefiting from their income through the taxes they are paying.

 
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May 19, 2022, 02:41:28 PM
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Gambling is suppose to be an entertainment, but it's true that there are some people who are addicted to it, but it's not right to blame it all to the gambling sites as in the first place they are operating with permit, and the government are benefiting from their income through the taxes they are paying.

That's right, control is entirely on everyone. The service providers provide a place, they cannot limit what they do with the money they hold in the account they have. Don't know where the money is from as long as the account moves to stream normally there are no reports of crimes then it will not be banned.
As the author said, I think it happens a lot. Not only deceptive, but for those who are not smart fund management will spend property owned by family or parents. It happened in my area, the car, the land they sold to cover the forest due to mismanagement of funds they did.

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May 19, 2022, 02:54:30 PM
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Gambling is suppose to be an entertainment, but it's true that there are some people who are addicted to it, but it's not right to blame it all to the gambling sites as in the first place they are operating with permit, and the government are benefiting from their income through the taxes they are paying.

That's right, control is entirely on everyone. The service providers provide a place, they cannot limit what they do with the money they hold in the account they have. Don't know where the money is from as long as the account moves to stream normally there are no reports of crimes then it will not be banned.
As the author said, I think it happens a lot. Not only deceptive, but for those who are not smart fund management will spend property owned by family or parents. It happened in my area, the car, the land they sold to cover the forest due to mismanagement of funds they did.
Yes bro,actually any activity, it has limits from pleasure, love and excessive ambition makes a person forget what is called a hobby and entertainment. I assume (gambling) should be the one who can choose it himself, any company will understand when the time comes take a break from any game, entertain yourself with a trial or something fit. The friends above discuss the role of other people to help recover themselves, the mindset and curiosity from gambling adversity. In my opinion, games are just games. And the company definitely wants to provide the best service for its consumers.and once again men or whoever has it has a choice for a trip and the company has an offer.so get to know yourself(gambler) because something is created for interest in a particular field, which is unique, varied and may bring big profits.then get to know the risk that will be accepted, whatever it is friend.
and recognize the vision and mission of gambling, it can turn from the law, the reality from dreams or hopes that are too forced

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May 19, 2022, 03:08:49 PM
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What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

Both are indeed wrong but there's no law that could really make out immediate or proper action specially if there would no agreements involved like "self-exclusions" which the user had made out some
request for him not to recieve any mails in related with promotions because its totally irresponsible or mistake if they do still sent out despite of such condition or scenario.

As a gambling addict then you could do sort of things which it would be mainly affecting on people around you even with your own family which you could really be
able to scam out specially if you dont have money to spent through gambling.


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It's really saddening that a lot of problematic gamblers will take down this path especially if they no longer have any money to fund their gambling habits. They are not only destroying their lives but also the lives of other people that surround them. Hopefully this serves as a very painful lesson to the gambler in question, otherwise once he got out and still does not remove gambling from his system, he will still do it again and would surely do everything in his power to evade being caught by law enforcement.

Boyle Sports just did their job, they don't care if what would happen to their gambler as long as they win. It's pure business for them, so us gamblers, we have to ensure that we are still responsible so we can only gamble what we can afford to lose.

Gambling is suppose to be an entertainment, but it's true that there are some people who are addicted to it, but it's not right to blame it all to the gambling sites as in the first place they are operating with permit, and the government are benefiting from their income through the taxes they are paying.

I agree. The gambler, at the end of the day, still has full responsibility of whatever happens to him/her due to his/her activities. They are a business seeking profit, not a charity helping people. If they are to help every single problematic gambler that is using their platform, they will just lose money in the process. Problematic gamblers can apply themselves through the self-exclusion program, but they still have to look for themselves to never visit any gambling platforms while they are trying to recuperate from their addiction.

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May 19, 2022, 03:32:59 PM
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Here the gambler is wrong. As a means of promotion gambling platforms used to give free betting bonuses. If this bonus have been given knowing that the user is gonna end gambling, then the gambling platform too is wrong. Myself too have similar experience playing with bonus when I was in long break from gambling, and from my experience it is always good to have self control.

I certainly agree with this. There's no one to be blamed but the gambler because things could have been better if that person knows how to control himself from the beginning. Yes, gambling addiction is hard to resist but if we really want to stop, then we should do it wholeheartedly and readily which includes the total deletion or unsubscription to promotional emails. Free funds from promotions are just a trap and if we fall for it, we'll surely lose everything in the end.
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May 19, 2022, 04:07:29 PM
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I certainly agree with this. There's no one to be blamed but the gambler because things could have been better if that person knows how to control himself from the beginning. Yes, gambling addiction is hard to resist but if we really want to stop, then we should do it wholeheartedly and readily which includes the total deletion or unsubscription to promotional emails. Free funds from promotions are just a trap and if we fall for it, we'll surely lose everything in the end.
The main mistake remains for gamblers because they do not have the knowledge to bet on money that is worth losing for gambling games for fun, to avoid gambling addiction that you do not need to be involved every time for gambling because at times it is difficult to avoid the addiction to gambling from using money which should not be deposited in gambling.

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May 19, 2022, 04:25:05 PM
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Both the bettor and Boyle Sports are at fault but i might not blame Boyle sport that much because the bettor allowed greed eat up his emotions. Going extra mile to scam a family member just to continue gambling is another level of addiction altogether. Gambling companies are profit seeking establishment too and not a charity organization they might want to go any length to keep their bettors regular and this is where discipline comes in on the path of the gambler
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Feel pity for this man. He might not have anyone left on his side when he is back to the reality. Lets says he'd be in prison for impersonating someone and after that he goes out. His family may hate him for what he did and will have no place to go because of this.

He must have thought he'd get lucky and win using the money and then pay. He is too optomistic for a gambler.

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The main mistake remains for gamblers because they do not have the knowledge to bet on money that is worth losing for gambling games for fun, to avoid gambling addiction that you do not need to be involved every time for gambling because at times it is difficult to avoid the addiction to gambling from using money which should not be deposited in gambling.

When we're addicted to something, sometimes it's not just about knowing and ready to lose the money. However, mental and emotional factors often make a gambler forget what he should be doing. It could be, the person who did this to his family because of his unstable emotions. He hopes to win too much, so he tries in any way to get the money so he can bet again. I recently made a mistake when I borrowed money for gamble, after exceeding the limit I originally set before. Lucky for me, when I used the borrowed money, I won and was able to make a full refund. Something like this might also happen to the suspect. He wanted to win, but there was no more money to play with, thus making his family a victim. That is why, playing intensity is an important thing that needs to be done. The more often we play, the more unhealthy our emotional becomes. This has happened to me once, when I gambled almost every day. Now, I've let go, even if I gamble, I deposit once, if I lose, it's over. This is to prevent me from making the same mistake before. Because, victory is not determined by how much we gamble, so limiting as suggested by my friends is an important thing that I must remember.

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but every time he tried to close his Boyle Sports account they sent him a €50 free bet and he ended up gambling again

Well, when you wager a lot you get a lot of promotional stuff! What's wrong with that?!

After reading this story I have a feeling that you can replace the word gambling with drugs and it will be completely the same! Another ruined life because some guy/girl decided to go all the way without any moral or ethical compass!? Any vice is like playing with fire, and we who play with fire get burned here and there, so I guess we know how it is... but some people just don't know when it's enough! They push till the very end!

I don't like to blame the game, because the game will be played as long as there are interested players! So it's on people who decide to join the game to be aware of what can happen in the game and all the consequences that can come when "bad period/luck" comes! And be sure, after every bullish comes a bearish period! It's like that even in love!

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I don't like to blame the game, because the game will be played as long as there are interested players! So it's on people who decide to join the game to be aware of what can happen in the game and all the consequences that can come when "bad period/luck" comes! And be sure, after every bullish comes a bearish period! It's like that even in love!
Gambling games of various variations are made so as not to be boring but that does not mean to add to the long list of gambling addictions, so every gambler must break away from his addiction to gambling because it will make his life worse, an addicted gambler must be able to control himself from excessive gambling addiction and understand the consequences if betting on high bets.

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May 19, 2022, 06:52:25 PM
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Here is the article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40875731.html
Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member. The man had probelms with Gambling and he tried to stop by closing the account on the website and at the end of the day they saw him stopping but kept sending him mails and at the same time, they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune. The whole things is extremely complex like Some Sherlock Holmes story. The person was not infact gullible since to fuel his gambling addiction he scammed his family member and then went to court and pleaded guilty as well blamed it all on the Boyle Sports.
What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.
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It was established that the two accounts, to which the payments totalling €56,000 were made, were a personal bank account and a Boyle Sports account, both in Thomas O’Connell’s name. The payments varied from €100 to €1000 and averaged at just over €200.
“Contact was almost on a daily basis – sometimes a couple of times on a particular day. He admitted that he took €56,000 and impersonated (the solicitor),” Det. Garda Fuller said. O’Connell was actually a client of the solicitor he impersonated. The defendant had a gambling and alcohol addiction.
The phone calls and texts – supposedly from the solicitor - to the victim were a work of fiction by 48-year-old Thomas O’Connell who did not stop until he got his hands on every euro of the €56,000 the victim had inherited.



I've had some interaction and experience with Boyle Sports in the past, they do have adequate safety measures in place to stop someone from casually returning if they have requested self exclusion for a period of time. They will have had to make some declarations and go through certain steps to remove that self exclusion if it ever was in place - I get the feeling it was never even attempted by this hopeless addict. In most situations I am supportive of people who lose their own money if the gambling controls are not strong enough, maybe they do need a review at this site, but this person has gone a step further and stolen from his own family - that is possibly some of the worst behavior possible, which makes the sympathy levels pretty low.

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May 19, 2022, 07:04:23 PM
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Here the gambler is wrong. As a means of promotion gambling platforms used to give free betting bonuses. If this bonus have been given knowing that the user is gonna end gambling, then the gambling platform too is wrong. Myself too have similar experience playing with bonus when I was in long break from gambling, and from my experience it is always good to have self control.
You have not to blame the gambling sites because they are on business which if you happens to be on the shoe's of owner of the platform you will like people to be betting in your platform even without bonus as you check. The gamblers is in the wrong track because it suppose to know how much that remains in it gambling account not to the extent of wiping all of his account  for gambling. Borrowing because of betting is wrong even though they platform issues you enough bonus you are suppose to use a common sense to apply for whatever you are doing.
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May 19, 2022, 07:47:08 PM
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A problem gambler will do anything, and everything, to continue gambling. He will lie, cheat and steal to be able to gamble. When caught he will blame everybody that he can blame or any crimes committed !! he will include people for his crime if he has one!!!
An addicted gambler will always have the tendency to do whatever it is just to quench his taste and this can be seen there character, stealing can be one of those things and other criminalizing acts. Instead of fixing themselves, they rely on casinos to stop their excessive gambling forgetting the fact that casinos are out for business and the more gamblers stake money the more money the casino earns.

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Every gambling company are into business to make profit and not just to entertain prospective customer. Just like any business, Boyle Sports would always want to retain their customers. In trying to maintain or win back customers these gambling companies use different marketing strategies which include free bets. You didn't specify the age of the person, hence we cannot figure-out if he is underage. Teenagers and children are the highest victims of gambling addiction, that is why the age limit is 18 and above. The bettor was only enticed and was not forced, hence Boyle Sports is not guilty. Every adult must take responsibility for his/her action or inaction because the blame game is a sign of immaturity.   

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