Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ?

[virasog]

No one can say that we can definitely understand. What cannot be proven cannot be said to be true. However, I think that there are match-fixing competitions in every sport. Of course, this cannot be the case in the Champions League final or the NBA final. However, apart from the lower league competitions of the countries, match-fixing can occur in the champions league and group matches.

Match fixing  is usually done in matches where one team is very strong and the other team is very weak and somehow out of expectation the weaker teams wins.
The matches in which two equal calibre teams are playing, it's hard to predict if the match was fixed or not.

[Vaskiy]

No one can say that we can definitely understand. What cannot be proven cannot be said to be true. However, I think that there are match-fixing competitions in every sport. Of course, this cannot be the case in the Champions League final or the NBA final. However, apart from the lower league competitions of the countries, match-fixing can occur in the champions league and group matches.

Match fixing  is usually done in matches where one team is very strong and the other team is very weak and somehow out of expectation the weaker teams wins.
The matches in which two equal calibre teams are playing, it's hard to predict if the match was fixed or not.

Nowadays match fixing have decreased much compared to the past. These days match fixing might be happening within the club level games. Recently saw an user posting a match as fixed on our forum and suggested to go for the odds. I didn't took into consideration, but as he said the results came accordingly. I don't know whether it is a coincidence or really a fixed match. As said when two equal teams play it is hard to find it is a fixed match.

[Smartprofit]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

I usually identify a fake (fixed) boxing match. 

I look at the expression on the faces of the boxers.  It's called physiognomy.  In fixed matches, boxers behave unnaturally.  They look like theater actors, not athletes.  In a real fight, athletes experience a feeling of rage.  They want to defeat their opponents. 

These emotions are reflected on their faces.  In fictitious (contractual) battles, fighters experience a feeling of disappointment and annoyance. 

In fact, they imitate a fight.  They think about money, not about winning.

[swogerino]

In a fighting event between two humans if there is a fix it can be easily detected as there are only two actors.You know where you cannot easily tell no matter how hard you try,it is in soccer games where 22 players plus 4 referees are the actors of that game.How many games we have seen the stronger team attacking and only attacking,making a lot of near misses,hit the post and so on and in the last minute of the game they concede a goal and lose the game.Personally and this is just a personal opinion I think these kind of games are rigged as they are repeated cases,it does not happen just once,we have seen a lot of such matches.

The only sport which cannot be rigged in my opinion is Formula 1 and MotoGP,the sportsmen there are risking their lives with extreme speeds so I find it highly unlikely that rigging to take place in such sports and that is why the biggest amount of money and bets I always make them in F1.

[acroman08]

This video is one good example of a fixed fight in boxing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGw5dwdbwwk

the first clip was so hard and extremely cringy to watch, I've seen that video before and remember that in the comments on the video they were making fun of the guy. I Mean it was clear that the match was rigged especially with those punches. I won't be surprised if the guy with the fake muscles was the one who paid to organise that match.

[Fredomago]

No one can say that we can definitely understand. What cannot be proven cannot be said to be true. However, I think that there are match-fixing competitions in every sport. Of course, this cannot be the case in the Champions League final or the NBA final. However, apart from the lower league competitions of the countries, match-fixing can occur in the champions league and group matches.

Match fixing  is usually done in matches where one team is very strong and the other team is very weak and somehow out of expectation the weaker teams wins.
The matches in which two equal calibre teams are playing, it's hard to predict if the match was fixed or not.

And with that scenarios, game-fixers/mafias will mostly target the game that has balanced competitions. It will save their butts not too easily being recognized by those gamblers who seek to ride with game fixing events. Inside sports gambling, there are always possibilities that the game is manipulated.

Hard to say, especially if those actors are already mastered by what they are doing, it seems so normal for them

when they are doing the fix.

[virasisog]

I'm not good at determining if the event is fixed but there were a few matches that I watched where I couldn't stop wondering how the match result went out. It's specifically on the boxing field and their facial expressions seemed too rehearsed. I couldn't blame them if that's their way of making bigger money. The disappointment only begins if their acting is too obvious.

[Hydrogen]

When I was more serious about gambling I studied history of past cases where leagues admitted games were rigged.

From the archives: How former ref Tim Donaghy conspired to fix NBA games

Editor's note: This two-year investigation, which revealed how disgraced referee Tim Donaghy conspired to fix NBA games, whom he did it with and the millions of dollars that flowed from the conspiracy, was originally published on Feb. 19, 2019. July 9 is the anniversary of Donaghy's resignation from the NBA.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25980368/how-former-ref-tim-donaghy-conspired-fix-nba-games

It also helps to study the process by which odds are set and how the industry approaches things.

I think its safe to say some core foundational knowledge is necessary before a person can have a good enough grasp of things to say whether games are rigged.

[Oasisman]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

There's no way you can determine accurately If the game or match is fixed, but you can suspect when something is not right that's happening.
In a basketball (local and national) match I have seen a lot of suspected game fixing match, but they get away with it because of lack of evidence. I know something in basketball when they try to rig a game, they have to either intentionally cover or not to cover the point spread, or intentionally let the other team win regardless of how strong the favourite team is.

[Gianluca95]

There were some matches that I've seen in Soccer that has thaught to me that were fixed.

For what?

- Players doesn't score, also in very easy occasion.

- Players spent too time to pass the ball, instead to coordinate attack/defense action.


I remember 2 years Ago, Napoli-Verona which ends with results 1-1. Take a look at that match and let me know if that were fixed or not.

[Fortify]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

There are some events that are so blatant that you can detect cheating, but they will tend to be low level games and possibly even involve both sides trying to play a particular way (e.g. very badly). Besides that it can be very difficult to definitively prove that cheating is taking place unless you're able to investigate the paper trail or catch the match fixers proposing it directly. The bookmakers will be able to see unusual betting behavior and possibly take action, but unless they have proof it is unlikely they'll do much except ban the person from placing any more bets or cap them at such a low level as to make it pointless. As it could effectively end someones career if detected or suspected, the players involved are going to want substantial sums upfront, which means the cheat has to pay off quite big to make it worthwhile.

[Sirait]

if you mention cheating in sports matches then we can't know for sure because cheating will always exist. there was once a big fuss where the match-fixing mafia controlled one of the big leagues and made a lot of people lose especially the gamblers (because they controlled the final outcome of matches). without proof then we can't think that many sports matches are not a fix matches.

[Boristhecat]

There are some events that are so blatant that you can detect cheating, but they will tend to be low level games and possibly even involve both sides trying to play a particular way (e.g. very badly). Besides that it can be very difficult to definitively prove that cheating is taking place unless you're able to investigate the paper trail or catch the match fixers proposing it directly. The bookmakers will be able to see unusual betting behavior and possibly take action, but unless they have proof it is unlikely they'll do much except ban the person from placing any more bets or cap them at such a low level as to make it pointless. As it could effectively end someones career if detected or suspected, the players involved are going to want substantial sums upfront, which means the cheat has to pay off quite big to make it worthwhile.

Bookmakers, if they suspect the game of dishonesty, simply cancel bets on this event - they simply return the money. They don't have to prove anything, go to court, etc. these are the rules of the betting business, and by the way, they don't even have to watch the game to analyze it for fraud - if they see that an unusual number of bets are being placed on this event, this is enough justification for them to take action.

[mm2543363580]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

I tried to predict - but my prediction went wrong most of times.
I used to make  sports bet - but unfortunately - I always made a wrong choice - so I thought to stop doing it - because it was a complete loss.

[Tellek Garing]

Because of match-fixing that is why must football matches cant be predicted, and if there is a systematic fixing of game one will it be hard to predict the outcome.

And again it is not easy to know if a game is fixed and most tournaments have a law against it even though that still happens.
 

[michellee]

Because of match-fixing that is why must football matches cant be predicted, and if there is a systematic fixing of game one will it be hard to predict the outcome.

And again it is not easy to know if a game is fixed and most tournaments have a law against it even though that still happens.
 

Maybe that's true, but we spectators will not know whether it is match-fixing or running normally. I think we can just leave the game as it is and we better enjoy the game. That will allow us to watch the entertainment we want instead of just thinking about match-fixing.

Only a few people will know whether it is match-fixing or not. And if you place a bet for a specific group, then be careful and get all the necessary information to guess which team or player can win.

[bittraffic]

Because of match-fixing that is why must football matches cant be predicted, and if there is a systematic fixing of game one will it be hard to predict the outcome.

And again it is not easy to know if a game is fixed and most tournaments have a law against it even though that still happens.
 

Maybe that's true, but we spectators will not know whether it is match-fixing or running normally. I think we can just leave the game as it is and we better enjoy the game. That will allow us to watch the entertainment we want instead of just thinking about match-fixing.

Only a few people will know whether it is match-fixing or not. And if you place a bet for a specific group, then be careful and get all the necessary information to guess which team or player can win.

There may have been instances that the fixing is very obvious like the example above where a strong team is matched to a weaker team. This is probably true but is probably why there are handicap betting to negate this issues when it comes to bookies.

But I would certainly believe there are referees that favors their favorite team. Everybody roots when there is a game even the referee.

[michellee]

Because of match-fixing that is why must football matches cant be predicted, and if there is a systematic fixing of game one will it be hard to predict the outcome.

And again it is not easy to know if a game is fixed and most tournaments have a law against it even though that still happens.
 

Maybe that's true, but we spectators will not know whether it is match-fixing or running normally. I think we can just leave the game as it is and we better enjoy the game. That will allow us to watch the entertainment we want instead of just thinking about match-fixing.

Only a few people will know whether it is match-fixing or not. And if you place a bet for a specific group, then be careful and get all the necessary information to guess which team or player can win.

There may have been instances that the fixing is very obvious like the example above where a strong team is matched to a weaker team. This is probably true but is probably why there are handicap betting to negate this issues when it comes to bookies.

But I would certainly believe there are referees that favors their favorite team. Everybody roots when there is a game even the referee.

I once saw a referee who seemed to be defending a strong team and always trying to punish a weak team and that happened a few years ago. The audience protested by shouting to change the referee but the match continued until the end. And luckily, the weak team survived and was able to show their strength. That weak team can continue and finally gets supported by a crowd that was already displeased with the referee.

That's one of the real examples in the game and I think there are many more that we've seen before.

[Wexnident]

We can tell if something is wrong with the judgments of the referees or players, but I think there's no actual way for us to tell whether a fight is fixed unless the players and referees come clean with it. I mean, I can always assume that the team I like that keeps getting called out has a rigged match since well, they keep getting called out, but in reality, it may just be me being blind and the team indeed made actual mistakes worth calling out. But yea, it can be easy to see if something's really wrong with the match after maybe half of the match.

[carlisle1]

Because of match-fixing that is why must football matches cant be predicted, and if there is a systematic fixing of game one will it be hard to predict the outcome.

And again it is not easy to know if a game is fixed and most tournaments have a law against it even though that still happens.
 

Even there's a law against this kind of act, if the actors are good no one can detect the fixing that's ongoing. Most of the time, this kind of

manipulation is being done not just by the single team or player, it's been orchestrated, including the officials, mafias are everywhere

and they are spending huge amount of money to get the results that they are looking, it's not easy to and prove even you think a game

is being fixed,.