Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ?

[Distinctin]

Anyway, speaking about rigged games/fight. There's this speculation about Jake Paul vs Tyroon Woodley that the latter was forced to get KO'd and videos are surfacing in the internet about what was Jake Paul is trying to say in the ring moments before Woodley got KO'd. What do you think about it guys?

That was too smooth for a rigged. Before that Knock Out punch, everything is doing fine on both sides and you can't even think that it's a rigged.

Even though I watched some related videos to see how it's done, we don't know what happened on that. It's a perfect rigged if that's really rigged and all I can say is if they can pull out that smooth act, what's more to their future fights?

I want to disregard the rigged since Woodley isn't really an impressive fighter after all before that fight. Comes from a 4-consecutive loss and is almost at the end of his career. They just do the fight for entertainment purposes to grab some money.

I would say that there are some points to consider and that verbal actions by Jake weren't meant to get into Woodley's head but that knock-out punch happened suddenly and I can slightly say that Woodley could've avoided that as he came from MMA but he turned to be an inexperienced fighter against Jake. I don't know but for me, even if how many wins Jake could attain, I can't still be impressed unless it's against a known heavy names in the industry.

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[KTChampions]

No I can't tell it unless it is too obvious. I've seen goalkeepers (football) acting super stupid before and there was no other explanation for those games. They were fixed. Since I don't watch the other sports like basketball, boxing etc... I don't know anything about those games so It is extremely hard for me to tell anything about them. If you are a regular watcher and a fan of those sports, you could probably tell though. If the favorite side/player acting stupid for no reason > the game is fixed

I know a couple of cases in the history of football in my country that most fans consider as obviously fixed games. In one case, the goalkeeper of the team conceded two goals in very stupid positions, despite the fact that his team had no tournament goals and for the opposing team a victory was necessary to take the gold. Two goals from the team in white on the conscience of the goalkeeper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JcJygCyRl4
The story of the whole scandal is here (in Russian):
https://www.championat.com/football/article-4010991-kak-igroka-zenita-obvinili-v-sdache-matcha-spartaku-detali-istorii-romana-berezovskogo.html
The bottom line is that after a couple of years the truth came out, but only those who publicly said that it was a match-fixing were punished 

[Slow death]

It is super hard to dictect a fixed match or a fixed fight  because the two parties involved won't open up and tell anyone,they will keep it to themselve,.The only thing that will make you want to suspect is when there is a kind of slowness in the fight,or in football,they give unnecessary coners or penalties that will lead to goal.But I can conclude that when games are fixed,the both parties or team usually end up in a draw.

in recent years the most common way of identifying manipulated games or Fix is paying attention to the attitudes of the referee of the game, the referees are the guys who are manipulating the games, they receive money to favor a certain team, it is true that with the technology that is being implemented in soccer it is increasingly difficult for games to be manipulated and the referees have not had much space to favor a certain team, but the same cannot be said in sports and fights, especially those fights that involve famous fighters and which are fights scheduled many months in advance

[Smartvirus]

in recent years the most common way of identifying manipulated games or Fix is paying attention to the attitudes of the referee of the game, the referees are the guys who are manipulating the games, they receive money to favor a certain team, it is true that with the technology that is being implemented in soccer it is increasingly difficult for games to be manipulated and the referees have not had much space to favor a certain team, but the same cannot be said in sports and fights, especially those fights that involve famous fighters and which are fights scheduled many months in advance

No doubt, the referee is the cleasest way to determine a fixed game as the players seems to play with same energy steal and maybe with just a little hold back and for football, being more greedy with the ball but even still, it's extremely difficult to detect. Your years of expertise counts very little here because, a lot is on the line, from the career of the referee, the manager of the club, board of management and others that could be banned permanently from the game. So, the presences of a federation to ensure that these match fixes never happens have almost zero the chances to it and when it does, you might never tell.

[ethereumhunter]

Ofcourse, we can tell if there's something fishy because we've been watching our preferred sports for a long time so we will really know if the game/fight is rigged. Anyhow, we will just feel discouraged about that fact but we will always find ourselves watching the same sport

I believe that rigging of games or fight are still common in low league sports and not in big events, they quite know that it is too risky if they will rigged a big event.

Even if we know something is suspicious, we won't be able to do much because we are just ordinary citizens with no power to protest against the fraud. Unless someone sees that the match is rigged and he has the power to protest it, the protest can only succeed in attracting public attention. Fraud can happen without the public knowing it because the people who organize the fraud have the power to control the people around them. So we can only allow cheating even though we know it.

[rojan]

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

It's totally difficult and sometimes we suspect games that have been rigged because we bet for the losing team. And that makes us think that the game is unacceptable because we're wrong with our bets or with the teams that we're supporting.
Out of frustration, we're thinking that there's magic with the result even though it's visible and clear that there's no cheat, no rig but just pure game and the winning team deserves it. This is the thought and mindset that we have when we can't accept defeat.

The game is here but we sometimes suspect that there is a game for example where most of the numbers can be scored but the goal can be scored but if it doesn't happen then it will be seen that there is a lot for those who play here.  The downside, however, is that if you look closely, most people here choose the wrong path

[famososMuertos]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

The reality is that there is no technology that guarantees us the PF as we do with traditional games and I mention it because we are in a cryptographic betting environment or niche, so it seems obvious.

Trust is a simple adjective but it defines where you should place a bet (casino) and in which sports (countries, leagues, tournaments, etc).
Sometimes I see soccer games  in certain countries, and..., let's say they have a first division category that one can presume that; First they are affiliated with Fifa, which country is not? there are more countries affiliated to FiFa than to the UN, you know that their teams participate in international tournaments, but you don't know anything else, ok, but in that same country you get a game on a Wednesday night of the second or third division, so...this is easy, bet!, if the game is there it is already a bit of trust, but the sport (country, tournament, etc) is fulfilled in trust, yes?, no?

So, When we talk about ridiculous bets like $100 or less, it's my limit, it's a yes! Other amounts may be ridiculous depending on each person's bakroll, but putting $100,000 in a game like this, for example, something like that, is it a yes?

Re crazy! really! is a no, because any result can be rigged or fixed. There are many chances that it will happen.

The point of the above leads you to the answer, only bet on reliable events, that have a guarantee that the "chance"/odds of a fix is ​​reduced by a very high percentage, as much as something close to 99%, because the reality  or  what the proof show, there is not leagues as reliable (100%).

Then it is something always latent, hence the 1% in my guess, examples; the serie A, Calciopoli, had fixed soccer games, in the same way other leagues like the one in Brazil, etc.

In other sports, college basketball does not escape, there are many cases, and although I gave an example of the MLB, there is a very famous case in the 1919 world series, but for example, the MLB is currently one of the most reliable sports in the world to bet, referees, players, managers, everyone is closely watched like no other league, maybe in other sports the same thing is done but to make a big bet if there is a reliable sport it is the MLB.

The boxing! it is the one with the worst reputation and I wouldn't put anything there that affects my bankroll, in general that should be the approach.

where is the 1% examples:  

Black Sox Scandal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_Scandal

SerieA, Calciopoli.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calciopoli

Diego Costa
https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-diego-costa-at-the-centre-of-alleged-betting-scandal-20211001

2005 Brazilian football match-fixing scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Brazilian_football_match-fixing_scandal

Basketball has a whole "Universe" of cases, especially in college basketball, but this case is worthy of the "Rigged Universe".

*Christian Dawkins seeks new trial after FBI agent pleads guilty to gambling government money
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/christian-dawkins-seeks-trial-fbi-agent-pleads-guilty/story?id=83162347

*It is important to say that this case mentions how a guy who was investigating another is involved with the use of state money to bet, on the other hand this "jewel" Christian Dawkins was brought to trial for the biggest bribery scandal in college basketball, it does not involve match-fixing, but it shows how bribery reaches any status in sport.

...the universe of rigged in college basketball:
Gambling Scandal Strikes Again Northwestern Players Face Federal Charges
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1998/mar/27/gambling-scandal-strikes-again-northwestern/

In that case I even saw a documentary on net Flix, to summarize the following link that even includes the story of the previous link, then in which we can see the case of Pete rose, who even as a manager bet on his team, in his defense he said that "I never bet against" (lol) it's a shame that this guy for those of us who like baseball, he is not in the hall of fame, but the rules are the rules.

11 biggest scandals in sports gambling history
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/05/11-biggest-scandals-in-sports-gambling-history

...so, Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? No, but it is very very possible that it happens, well at least in a percentage => 1%

[ChiBitCTy]

A lot of people here with some interesting theories that’s for sure lol. I think the only fights/events that I’ve ever seen where I could “tell” that it’s fixed are exhibition fights.  For instance Jose Canseco recently fought a guy named billy from Barstool sports where Jose went down really easily and when we found out how much he made even as a loser of the fight, it just all added up and being clear to see it was a fixed fight.

[JohnBitCo]

It is super hard to dictect a fixed match or a fixed fight  because the two parties involved won't open up and tell anyone,they will keep it to themselve,.The only thing that will make you want to suspect is when there is a kind of slowness in the fight,or in football,they give unnecessary coners or penalties that will lead to goal.But I can conclude that when games are fixed,the both parties or team usually end up in a draw.

in recent years the most common way of identifying manipulated games or Fix is paying attention to the attitudes of the referee of the game, the referees are the guys who are manipulating the games, they receive money to favor a certain team, it is true that with the technology that is being implemented in soccer it is increasingly difficult for games to be manipulated and the referees have not had much space to favor a certain team, but the same cannot be said in sports and fights, especially those fights that involve famous fighters and which are fights scheduled many months in advance

I doubt referees can play a part in match fixing. The reason is that even if the referee makes the wrong decision, in most games, it can be challenged by the third umpire or camera umpire.
Usually, the players are involved in match fixing. If you see the under performing without any reason, you can get the hint of match fixing.

[mirakal]

A lot of people here with some interesting theories that’s for sure lol. I think the only fights/events that I’ve ever seen where I could “tell” that it’s fixed are exhibition fights.  For instance Jose Canseco recently fought a guy named billy from Barstool sports where Jose went down really easily and when we found out how much he made even as a loser of the fight, it just all added up and being clear to see it was a fixed fight.

Yes mate, that's for sure! An exhibition fight is clearly not to be viewed as a fair fight because both fighters know that the records won't be official and there's no judge to officiate the said fight. It was originally created that an exhibition fight is just a mere entertainment purpose to see these legendary fighters again but the Logan Brothers if you know them have really ruined these exhibition fights and also Mayweather.

[Russlenat]

Ofcourse, we can tell if there's something fishy because we've been watching our preferred sports for a long time so we will really know if the game/fight is rigged. Anyhow, we will just feel discouraged about that fact but we will always find ourselves watching the same sport

I believe that rigging of games or fight are still common in low league sports and not in big events, they quite know that it is too risky if they will rigged a big event.

Even if we know something is suspicious, we won't be able to do much because we are just ordinary citizens with no power to protest against the fraud. Unless someone sees that the match is rigged and he has the power to protest it, the protest can only succeed in attracting public attention. Fraud can happen without the public knowing it because the people who organize the fraud have the power to control the people around them. So we can only allow cheating even though we know it.

Proving that a game is rigged comes with a price and it would take a long time just to prove that there is indeed a cheating happened in that certain match/game. As an ordinary citizens, we can only speculate it without having the chance to prove it because our voice is not that important compared to the minds who made the cheating happen.

[Oilacris]

Ofcourse, we can tell if there's something fishy because we've been watching our preferred sports for a long time so we will really know if the game/fight is rigged. Anyhow, we will just feel discouraged about that fact but we will always find ourselves watching the same sport

I believe that rigging of games or fight are still common in low league sports and not in big events, they quite know that it is too risky if they will rigged a big event.

Even if we know something is suspicious, we won't be able to do much because we are just ordinary citizens with no power to protest against the fraud. Unless someone sees that the match is rigged and he has the power to protest it, the protest can only succeed in attracting public attention. Fraud can happen without the public knowing it because the people who organize the fraud have the power to control the people around them. So we can only allow cheating even though we know it.

Proving that a game is rigged comes with a price and it would take a long time just to prove that there is indeed a cheating happened in that certain match/game. As an ordinary citizens, we can only speculate it without having the chance to prove it because our voice is not that important compared to the minds who made the cheating happen.

Sad reality and as an ordinary citizen then what are the steps you would really be doing for them to proved out it was fixed? Get prepared on going against those big time fellas who manage that particular game and calling it fixed?

What you can do?
Who you would really tend to approach?
What would be your evidences?

For sure those questions above you cant really able to answer it out or doesnt
even know on how you would gonna deal with it thats why its better to ignore it out. 

[livingfree]

I doubt referees can play a part in match fixing. The reason is that even if the referee makes the wrong decision, in most games, it can be challenged by the third umpire or camera umpire.

In a lower league, a team can pay the referee but this was before. Today, if being done, it's going to be obvious and the referee will lose his job forever.

Usually, the players are involved in match fixing. If you see the under performing without any reason, you can get the hint of match fixing.

Yeah, on this matter. It's most likely the players have the bigger part of the match fixing. But to known leagues, this won't happen and if there's a suspicious, they will be subject immediately to an investigation.

[gunhell16]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

In the field of sport, I have seen many fights because there are actions such as basketball that lead to personal or physical pain while playing, and very rarely until the end of the game the result is still good and so on. is not. Even in other sports, the same thing happens as in football.

It's difficult to tell when a game is fixed, in my opinion, because the two teams won't really show it. Instead, they'll try to play their best, but they will intentionally make some silly mistakes that will let you know the game is fixed. On the other hand, some games won't be fixed, but there will still be silly mistakes, making it difficult to be sure. In football, especially, anything can happen, so you can't just assume that because a small club wins the club topping the table, that means the match was fixed. Sometimes the match will be fixed but you won't know it, and you might think the small club is lucky not to have known that the match was fixed.

That's true and correct, its too gard to find in the end that it is fix. But sometimes as I stated in the above it fixed before end of the games something like that.

[ethereumhunter]

Ofcourse, we can tell if there's something fishy because we've been watching our preferred sports for a long time so we will really know if the game/fight is rigged. Anyhow, we will just feel discouraged about that fact but we will always find ourselves watching the same sport

I believe that rigging of games or fight are still common in low league sports and not in big events, they quite know that it is too risky if they will rigged a big event.

Even if we know something is suspicious, we won't be able to do much because we are just ordinary citizens with no power to protest against the fraud. Unless someone sees that the match is rigged and he has the power to protest it, the protest can only succeed in attracting public attention. Fraud can happen without the public knowing it because the people who organize the fraud have the power to control the people around them. So we can only allow cheating even though we know it.

Proving that a game is rigged comes with a price and it would take a long time just to prove that there is indeed a cheating happened in that certain match/game. As an ordinary citizens, we can only speculate it without having the chance to prove it because our voice is not that important compared to the minds who made the cheating happen.

Precisely as ordinary citizens, we don't need to think about those rigged matches because we don't know how to prove it. It's better to enjoy the game without thinking about things because that's what we can do. The rest let the people behind the rigged matches suffer the consequences of what they did. And hopefully, the authorities can expose their fraud.

[savetheFORUM]

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

It's totally difficult and sometimes we suspect games that have been rigged because we bet for the losing team. And that makes us think that the game is unacceptable because we're wrong with our bets or with the teams that we're supporting.
Out of frustration, we're thinking that there's magic with the result even though it's visible and clear that there's no cheat, no rig but just pure game and the winning team deserves it. This is the thought and mindset that we have when we can't accept defeat.

Of course it is hard because if they will make it is easy to spot on then they will be in big trouble. We shouldn't make a scandal if we have no concrete evidence to back up our claims because we are the ones that will look bad and we will be in big trouble if ever we are doing it in real life where our identity is known.

In online sports betting I think operators will not care anymore if the sports/match that they catered is fixed or not but their jobs is to simply make a game/betting out of it. If there's one that will be blamed for this then that must be the organizer of the game/match but it takes a lot of effort, time and money if you are serious about accusing them.

[Silberman]

Ofcourse, we can tell if there's something fishy because we've been watching our preferred sports for a long time so we will really know if the game/fight is rigged. Anyhow, we will just feel discouraged about that fact but we will always find ourselves watching the same sport

I believe that rigging of games or fight are still common in low league sports and not in big events, they quite know that it is too risky if they will rigged a big event.

Even if we know something is suspicious, we won't be able to do much because we are just ordinary citizens with no power to protest against the fraud. Unless someone sees that the match is rigged and he has the power to protest it, the protest can only succeed in attracting public attention. Fraud can happen without the public knowing it because the people who organize the fraud have the power to control the people around them. So we can only allow cheating even though we know it.

Proving that a game is rigged comes with a price and it would take a long time just to prove that there is indeed a cheating happened in that certain match/game. As an ordinary citizens, we can only speculate it without having the chance to prove it because our voice is not that important compared to the minds who made the cheating happen.

It is true that a single person cannot do much especially since they are not going to have evidence of what they are witnessing and any authority can easily disregard what they are saying, however if a great deal of people think a particular event was fixed then as a group they can apply pressure for an investigation to take place, also those complains could reach the ears of the losing team or athlete and they could demand and investigation as well, so fans as a whole can still have an effect as long as they act as a group.

[Fredomago]

A lot of people here with some interesting theories that’s for sure lol. I think the only fights/events that I’ve ever seen where I could “tell” that it’s fixed are exhibition fights.  For instance Jose Canseco recently fought a guy named billy from Barstool sports where Jose went down really easily and when we found out how much he made even as a loser of the fight, it just all added up and being clear to see it was a fixed fight.

Yes mate, that's for sure! An exhibition fight is clearly not to be viewed as a fair fight because both fighters know that the records won't be official and there's no judge to officiate the said fight. It was originally created that an exhibition fight is just a mere entertainment purpose to see these legendary fighters again but the Logan Brothers if you know them have really ruined these exhibition fights and also Mayweather.

Ruined in terms of collecting more money the Logan brothers managed to attract fans using their social media personalities they really made a huge amount profits using this kind of entertainment so with Mayweather, in terms of fixed fights we can't expect anything if we will relate this kind of connections with exhibition fights.

Fixed games are more into serious games or regular sports venues where rumors game fixing are ongoing but no can really tell

if the said activities are really existing, or this kind of rumors will continue just a rumors.

[CryptoYar]

I doubt referees can play a part in match fixing. The reason is that even if the referee makes the wrong decision, in most games, it can be challenged by the third umpire or camera umpire.

(I don't know much about football, boxing, basketball, etc but since I am a cricket fan so can tell about it)

In cricket, Empire does not declare batsman out even though everyone can tell him that that was out. Of course, we can call it a human error if it happens once or twice but they keep repeating it.

Usually, the players are involved in match fixing. If you see the under performing without any reason, you can get the hint of match fixing.

Yes, it is true in most cases players fix matches. We can guess from the player's behavior that he's not playing sincerely.

[Mahanton]

Ofcourse, we can tell if there's something fishy because we've been watching our preferred sports for a long time so we will really know if the game/fight is rigged. Anyhow, we will just feel discouraged about that fact but we will always find ourselves watching the same sport

I believe that rigging of games or fight are still common in low league sports and not in big events, they quite know that it is too risky if they will rigged a big event.

Even if we know something is suspicious, we won't be able to do much because we are just ordinary citizens with no power to protest against the fraud. Unless someone sees that the match is rigged and he has the power to protest it, the protest can only succeed in attracting public attention. Fraud can happen without the public knowing it because the people who organize the fraud have the power to control the people around them. So we can only allow cheating even though we know it.

Proving that a game is rigged comes with a price and it would take a long time just to prove that there is indeed a cheating happened in that certain match/game. As an ordinary citizens, we can only speculate it without having the chance to prove it because our voice is not that important compared to the minds who made the cheating happen.

It is true that a single person cannot do much especially since they are not going to have evidence of what they are witnessing and any authority can easily disregard what they are saying, however if a great deal of people think a particular event was fixed then as a group they can apply pressure for an investigation to take place, also those complains could reach the ears of the losing team or athlete and they could demand and investigation as well, so fans as a whole can still have an effect as long as they act as a group.

You are right because if you are the only one who would really be tending to argue out that it was fixed then it would be most likely to be ignored but when in groups then it could create out some noise
which can definitely or possibly able to reach out but of course this  doesnt only talk about small numbers of person but rather on the entire fans or supporters of such team where they are really
that complaining about the fairness of the game.We cant really deny that fixed games could really be possible but pointing it out or making out complaints would really be a challenge already
neither you would really be getting some attention but most of the time you would really get ignored or something that you cant do even if you do want to prove out at least.