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July 13, 2022, 12:22:10 PM |
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I think it is somekinda hard to spot match fixing in football as players can make many mistakes. But if I observe referee making weird decision and changing flow of match I become doubtful. Some referees I am sure get paid through stopping a specific team's good harmony. And also they sometimes give absurd chances to weaker times. These are examples I can observe in football matches in general.
But if the mistake is obviously done with there are many errors they do then we can conclude that the match is fix especially when we see that opponent is supposed to be a good team. Also referee might be involve since as you said they can manipulate the game thru their calls and sometimes it is noticeable since this can really affect the game. For sure there are many red flags on this but we surely didn't notice yet the other more.
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I think it is somekinda hard to spot match fixing in football as players can make many mistakes. But if I observe referee making weird decision and changing flow of match I become doubtful. Some referees I am sure get paid through stopping a specific team's good harmony. And also they sometimes give absurd chances to weaker times. These are examples I can observe in football matches in general.
We are all humans and in one or two events we have chances of have lapses that could cause us severe regret or loses. In football it is not that sure to have a fixed match because the weaker team might add strange effort with great determination to get things done no matter the techniques or pass history. There some matches that always end up with great surprises because of underating the other opponent because of past matches.
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It's hard to spot if a game is fix to be honest, there a ways to fix a game, it's not only on intentionally losing the game but point and total shaving is very popular in sports betting, however, it's not proven so if you are a bettor, you have to be clever when putting a bet, stay away from the public favorites.
Why? Are you implying a conspiracy of gamblers and bookmakers to "shave off" the betting public? I don't think it makes any sense because the bookmakers make their profit regardless of the outcome of the games, and besides, such activity will not only be a threat to business, but also a risk of going to jail (and given the number of people involved, this risk is high).
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Every event is sort of fixed including some big sports like Cricket, Football at some levels.
Imagine there are 3 stages of experience -
1. Intermediate - Tier 3 2. Advanced - Tier 2 3. Professionals - Tier 1
Fixing happening in Tier 1 will be 1%, that in Tier 2 will be 5% and almost 20% in Tier 3. So yes, Match Fixing is part of the system.
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I think it is somekinda hard to spot match fixing in football as players can make many mistakes. But if I observe referee making weird decision and changing flow of match I become doubtful. Some referees I am sure get paid through stopping a specific team's good harmony. And also they sometimes give absurd chances to weaker times. These are examples I can observe in football matches in general.
We are all humans and in one or two events we have chances of have lapses that could cause us severe regret or loses. In football it is not that sure to have a fixed match because the weaker team might add strange effort with great determination to get things done no matter the techniques or pass history. There some matches that always end up with great surprises because of underating the other opponent because of past matches. Sometimes it is all about the management of the teams because of the brackets they set in a match and most of the start of the event mostly they are doing some round robins. But of course, it is mostly with the financial talks about it, but of course in the international games such as the known events watching with the live broadcast there's a chance the viewers easily notice and we know how the internet works it is more easier to them spread news about the current status of the game.
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July 13, 2022, 03:53:24 PM |
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I think it's pretty hard to know.
In football for example a match can be decided by one small mistake from one player. That would be hard to know if it was a genuine mistake or if it was done on purpose.
In other sports it might be more difficult to do it, for example in basketball you kinda have to be consistently better than the other team to win, so it would be harder to fake it.
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July 13, 2022, 05:40:38 PM |
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I think it is somekinda hard to spot match fixing in football as players can make many mistakes. But if I observe referee making weird decision and changing flow of match I become doubtful. Some referees I am sure get paid through stopping a specific team's good harmony. And also they sometimes give absurd chances to weaker times. These are examples I can observe in football matches in general.
But if the mistake is obviously done with there are many errors they do then we can conclude that the match is fix especially when we see that opponent is supposed to be a good team. Also referee might be involve since as you said they can manipulate the game thru their calls and sometimes it is noticeable since this can really affect the game. For sure there are many red flags on this but we surely didn't notice yet the other more. If that mistake is noticeable then it can be contest or fans can exposed it in a social media to gather the attentions of the league facilitators, the organization will be an alarm that there are fix activities that might needed of their attentions, it's no longer hard to review as there are replays and in a self-opinion if that particular mistake is really intentional those involves persons needs to be sanctioned from the acts that they've committed.
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I think it is somekinda hard to spot match fixing in football as players can make many mistakes. But if I observe referee making weird decision and changing flow of match I become doubtful. Some referees I am sure get paid through stopping a specific team's good harmony. And also they sometimes give absurd chances to weaker times. These are examples I can observe in football matches in general.
We are all humans and in one or two events we have chances of have lapses that could cause us severe regret or loses. In football it is not that sure to have a fixed match because the weaker team might add strange effort with great determination to get things done no matter the techniques or pass history. There some matches that always end up with great surprises because of underating the other opponent because of past matches. The most telling in football are the way the goalkeepers and the strikers play. How they do 1 on 1. Whether the strikers always miss, if they aim at the goalkeeper to make it easy for him to stop the ball, and so on. You can mask mistakes in the center of the field, but it's much harder to do it when you have a shot. Sometimes it will be visible that they're deliberately trying to miss. That's why it's very rare for a team to try to lose, especially for a better team.
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It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our minds, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.
Yes, I can assume that a match is fixed based on the performance of the team especially if it happens to be a well-known team with good players playing against a team that has fewer quality players or a team that is in poor form. Using football as an example, when a big team with an odd of 1.20 is playing against a smaller team that has an odd of 30.25 is playing a football match when the big team is having all the possessions when the team has created so many goals scoring chances but fails to put any goal at the back of the net even when the team is awarded a penalty, it is obvious that the game is fixed to end as a draw since the small club can not score. It's hard to spot if a game is fix to be honest, there a ways to fix a game, it's not only on intentionally losing the game but point and total shaving is very popular in sports betting, however, it's not proven so if you are a bettor, you have to be clever when putting a bet, stay away from the public favorites. That will depend if the favorite is likely to be the winner and the chance of other party to win is somehow smaller than the favorite, either way, we will likely have some analysis and nearest speculation of the actual result but that won't determine our success because as you've said, there this other factor called point shaving and intentional losing.
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July 13, 2022, 10:38:40 PM |
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It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our minds, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.
Yes, I can assume that a match is fixed based on the performance of the team especially if it happens to be a well-known team with good players playing against a team that has fewer quality players or a team that is in poor form. Using football as an example, when a big team with an odd of 1.20 is playing against a smaller team that has an odd of 30.25 is playing a football match when the big team is having all the possessions when the team has created so many goals scoring chances but fails to put any goal at the back of the net even when the team is awarded a penalty, it is obvious that the game is fixed to end as a draw since the small club can not score. It's hard to spot if a game is fix to be honest, there a ways to fix a game, it's not only on intentionally losing the game but point and total shaving is very popular in sports betting, however, it's not proven so if you are a bettor, you have to be clever when putting a bet, stay away from the public favorites. That will depend if the favorite is likely to be the winner and the chance of other party to win is somehow smaller than the favorite, either way, we will likely have some analysis and nearest speculation of the actual result but that won't determine our success because as you've said, there this other factor called point shaving and intentional losing. Majority of us would really be definitely sticking into those favorite ones which it doesnt really need much complex thinking and analysis on whose gonna win the match or fight.If you do see some odd movements or bad calls from refs then it cant really be avoided for you to generate out some assumptions in mind that there's something off with the gameplay and having that impression that this might be fixed. Of course it would be normal for you to seek for another possible odd movement or decisions been made and find out strange or something thats a true intent.Then what would be the next step you would do? On where you would make such complain? How they would be hearing up your part? For sure this is something the hardest thing to be done.
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Once we used to believe that WWE is true. Later we understood that everything is planned and executed. It has got separate academy to provide training and based on their performance they were introduced. With real fights it is quite hard to make a prediction on whether the match is a fix.
In the past there used to be signals through which the players give information to the bookies. For what purpose match-fixing came into existence. Everything is Money and during those days technology isn't that accurate. These days things have changed a lot, so chances of fix seems to be lower than the past.
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July 14, 2022, 01:25:14 PM |
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Every event is sort of fixed including some big sports like Cricket, Football at some levels.
Imagine there are 3 stages of experience -
1. Intermediate - Tier 3 2. Advanced - Tier 2 3. Professionals - Tier 1
Fixing happening in Tier 1 will be 1%, that in Tier 2 will be 5% and almost 20% in Tier 3. So yes, Match Fixing is part of the system.
Is there any evidence for this or is it just your guess? With such a huge percentage of fixed games, the whole system should be involved in this. This is almost impossible given that the more people involved in the process, the greater the chance of leaks. Even at the professional level, one game out of 100 is a lot, as there are many games at the professional level every day. And we understand that professionals are a continuation (the very top of the pyramid) of the previous two levels, where, according to your assumption, the percentage of fixed games is completely wild.
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July 14, 2022, 01:29:03 PM Last edit: July 14, 2022, 05:14:06 PM by Pierre 2 |
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I think it is somekinda hard to spot match fixing in football as players can make many mistakes. But if I observe referee making weird decision and changing flow of match I become doubtful. Some referees I am sure get paid through stopping a specific team's good harmony. And also they sometimes give absurd chances to weaker times. These are examples I can observe in football matches in general.
We are all humans and in one or two events we have chances of have lapses that could cause us severe regret or loses. In football it is not that sure to have a fixed match because the weaker team might add strange effort with great determination to get things done no matter the techniques or pass history. There some matches that always end up with great surprises because of underating the other opponent because of past matches. I obviously don't deny such factors like luck or motivation of weaker team or demotivation of stronger team through different reasons. Yeah we are all humans and football players are also humans. But in general, by general I mean very uncommon, it really feels like change of match is very dramatic. I don't know if you ever experienced this in bigger countries although in Türkiye I definitely did experience. But I would say its still nearly impossible to spot. But sometimes feels are too strong to pass up.
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July 14, 2022, 01:46:20 PM |
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Once we used to believe that WWE is true. Later we understood that everything is planned and executed. It has got separate academy to provide training and based on their performance they were introduced. With real fights it is quite hard to make a prediction on whether the match is a fix. I also used to believe that but I just knew and notice that so many things are wrong like, why there was no blood and why after so many beatings the fighter managed to retaliate and wins the about without bruises or even stain of blood, later I find out that its all a drama but even if its a drama some matches are unpredictable, at least in WWE you know its fixed and you just want to look on the twist of the ending In the past there used to be signals through which the players give information to the bookies. For what purpose match-fixing came into existence. Everything is Money and during those days technology isn't that accurate. These days things have changed a lot, so chances of fix seems to be lower than the past. Because there are many cameras on focus and we have social media and spectators can easily post on social media and debate if there's fixing in particular fights or matches.
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July 14, 2022, 01:48:01 PM |
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There was a boxing match where you can easily see the fight was fixed and I believe it's on youtube if you want to watch here is the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_-C4Sk6EHw&ab_channel=LucaTiberiuIn the boxing match, you can easily see the sign whenever they fixed the fight and you can see that the boxer who is losing is hardly making any moves to win the fight, he just right there waiting for his opponent's punches to land on his face and get knockout easily. But the other sports like basketball, it is really hard to detect because it seems like the losing team has just some bad day they're not getting their usual shooting percentage but in reality, they deliberately took some low percentage shots to lose the game.
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July 14, 2022, 04:37:55 PM |
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I think it is somekinda hard to spot match fixing in football as players can make many mistakes. But if I observe referee making weird decision and changing flow of match I become doubtful. Some referees I am sure get paid through stopping a specific team's good harmony. And also they sometimes give absurd chances to weaker times. These are examples I can observe in football matches in general.
But often players make mistakes in the highest level games (eg Donaruma in the Champions League) and more than one per game. It is hard to imagine that he is involved in a fixed game, there are just such coincidences when two serious mistakes happen at once in one game. It seems to me that the same thing happens with referees, although it's hard to argue with the fact that referees are often biased and often seem to be trying to influence the outcome of the game (especially in the past, since now there is VAR and now it is more difficult to make a biased decision).
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July 14, 2022, 05:56:23 PM |
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It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our minds, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.
Yes, I can assume that a match is fixed based on the performance of the team especially if it happens to be a well-known team with good players playing against a team that has fewer quality players or a team that is in poor form. Using football as an example, when a big team with an odd of 1.20 is playing against a smaller team that has an odd of 30.25 is playing a football match when the big team is having all the possessions when the team has created so many goals scoring chances but fails to put any goal at the back of the net even when the team is awarded a penalty, it is obvious that the game is fixed to end as a draw since the small club can not score. If every match are like that (good/popular teams vs weak/unpopular teams) then people can always bet on the good popular teams and secure a win. That's going to be an easy money and if they still lose then it is indeed questionable. The game must be investigated properly right after the match to see if there's really a fixing that takes place. On rare occasions, an underdog can win and make an epic comeback but that is if they are really lucky that time. That's the only thing that they can win in a legit manner. Those who bet on those teams are also lucky despite of not doing a research and ended up betting on a weak team.
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July 14, 2022, 06:42:20 PM |
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I'll be watching the Jake Paul vs Hasim Rahman Jr fight pretty closely to see if there's another moment where Rahman will be accused of taking a dive. I'm sure that fixed fights probably happen quite a bit in professional fighting and the best demonstration of that lately has to be Jake Paul. Many people have questioned if his knockouts are real so if this is a topic that you're interested in, you've no doubt watched Jake's prior knockouts. If there's another moment like the Woodley fight where people claim a dive is taken, you have to give a little credit to the conspiracy.
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July 14, 2022, 06:49:09 PM |
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It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.
Most match fixing is only caught because it involves obscure bets that only a bookmaker would see and later investigate. It'll involve things like a football player forcing a red card in the second half of a game. The first bet might not get looked into deeply but a string of suspicious bets, usually focused around particular players would definitely set off alarm bells so it's not something that can last for long. If a bookmaker is ripped off, they'll definitely alert game officials and likely try to recover money by suing. All these things are normally kept behind closed doors to reduce humiliation and stop copycat activities.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/11/cricket-fake-ipl-tournament-farm-russian-gamblers-india-police-betting-scam-the-stinghave you seen this news? some scammers has created a fake Indian premier League of cricket just to fool russian gamblers! Of course results of the matches were adapted according bets. This is the first time that I have see something similar. Find inside article some details ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) about the scam (yes they have been caught)
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