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June 16, 2022, 08:11:05 AM
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Maybe if we can win, we need to calculate how much money we have spent to get that win and how often we can win that amount of money.
That way, we can see and calculate how likely we are to win the money next time and if we can be wise, we will always try to control our spending.
This is what we as gamblers need to realize so that we don't really lose in gambling but just want to have fun playing gambling.
It wouldn't work because you will get a different pattern and you can't make a decision based on that, I ever doing this to record my gambling activities before, but I didn't do it again anymore. Let's say on the day one, you won the biggest multiplier on the 50 spin, the day two, you won the biggest multiplier on the 70 spin. Now the day three, you won the biggest multiplier on your second spin. It's just purely of luck and there's no such pattern.
Yes, there really is no pattern that will be the same every day, and gamblers know that.
But they don't seem to care about patterns and keep trying to play and have fun.
If 3 days in a row a gambler can get a big win, preferably on the 4th day, he rests and doesn't try to play again because there is a possibility that his luck is not with him.
Besides, he had already won a lot of money, so it was better just to enjoy his winning money.

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June 16, 2022, 08:38:55 AM
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 Hello good day to all the members in this forum, Did you know that even if you win at gambling, you lose as well? Don't you think that's how it happened? and that’s the thing that I'd like to tackle about this topic, Because it’s hard to win at gambling, now if you want to know why? Join the conversation here.



I don't believe in that, there's still such a thing as a positive win depending on your mindset while playing, you can still have fun and at the same time win games, a positive win in gambling is when you know your limitation, you don't continue playing thinking that it's your chance to regain your losses, we don't want to have fun and lose if a win comes to take it and think its part of a game, It's hard to win in gambling when you are forcing your way to win and continue to play to win even if you already lost your allocation.
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June 16, 2022, 09:56:35 AM
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 Hello good day to all the members in this forum, Did you know that even if you win at gambling, you lose as well? Don't you think that's how it happened? and that’s the thing that I'd like to tackle about this topic, Because it’s hard to win at gambling, now if you want to know why? Join the conversation here.



I don't believe in that, there's still such a thing as a positive win depending on your mindset while playing, you can still have fun and at the same time win games, a positive win in gambling is when you know your limitation, you don't continue playing thinking that it's your chance to regain your losses, we don't want to have fun and lose if a win comes to take it and think its part of a game, It's hard to win in gambling when you are forcing your way to win and continue to play to win even if you already lost your allocation.

Another statement that's easier said than done.
Knowing your limitations might not be easy as you think when you start lossing and found yourself chasing for your losses.
The essence of having fun in gambling will disappear once your lossing. Most gamblers would either loss everything he have allocated to gambling or losses all the profit he made while retaining the capital (which kinda wise), and that's all because we're born greedy and always wanting more. You might win one or twice but the house will win like 5-10 times.

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June 16, 2022, 10:29:44 AM
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 Hello good day to all the members in this forum, Did you know that even if you win at gambling, you lose as well? Don't you think that's how it happened? and that’s the thing that I'd like to tackle about this topic, Because it’s hard to win at gambling, now if you want to know why? Join the conversation here.



I don't believe in that, there's still such a thing as a positive win depending on your mindset while playing, you can still have fun and at the same time win games, a positive win in gambling is when you know your limitation, you don't continue playing thinking that it's your chance to regain your losses, we don't want to have fun and lose if a win comes to take it and think its part of a game, It's hard to win in gambling when you are forcing your way to win and continue to play to win even if you already lost your allocation.

There are gamblers aims to win huge amount as if they think that they can defeat the casino for more longer times, but their expectations fails them and they lose for continue to bet even if the table turns since losing streak occurs. That's why they gave this statements that its hard for them to win on gambling.

If they just set properly their allocation or threshold on when to stop according to their set plan for sure they will never said this especially when their target is small percentage only.

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June 16, 2022, 10:34:00 AM
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Everyone wins at gambling once in a while. Of course we don't want to lose once. That moment will come, however, and then it is important to keep your wits about it. If you try to recoup your loss, you will end up losing even more money. So play with policy. In itself you can win at a casino, but you have to know when to stop again. The house always has an advantage, and in the long run it is profitable.

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June 16, 2022, 10:36:59 AM
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You're correct, a simple advice from a parents wouldn't change the addict to not gambling again because he can easily gamble on many online casinos out there. No one can stop him if he want to gamble, if he got self excluded in a site, he can find another casino who doesn't know him and they will let him play. Addiction is a serious case and a professional is always needed.
As parents, they are only obliged to admonish and educate their generation to become people who are able to think realistically about financial and life problems. Regardless of whether he obeyed it or not, then parental responsibilities were finished for him especially when he grew up. The problem of gambling, it is the duty of parents to keep their generation educated.

It is difficult to let go of addiction, which is why one must gamble responsibly. Professionals are needed to stop or reduce addiction, but as gamblers they must also be aware that gambling should not let them fall into difficult problems to solve.

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You can't win on gambling you can only try, casinos are not created to make money for players, it was created for people to have some fun, and have some entertainment after a hard day's work, you don't plan to deposit with a plan or hope to double your money, it's not going to work the house edge will bust your effort and expectation, just play on casinos what it is intended to be and that is, have some fun, if you win, withdraw it and treat yourself, then tomorrow its another session.

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June 16, 2022, 11:08:26 AM
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Everyone wins at gambling once in a while.
You can win 1-2 times, but lose 5 times. In the end, your winnings will be conditional, but in fact, you will be the loser.

Of course we don't want to lose once. That moment will come, however, and then it is important to keep your wits about it. If you try to recoup your loss, you will end up losing even more money.
Nobody likes to lose. I will say more: no one comes to the casino with the hope of losing. Everyone comes up with the idea of a possible win, and this is precisely the mistake, because the longer you play, the higher the chances of losing. In all games, the win rate is always below 100%, which means that in the long run, you will lose everything sooner or later. This is simple mathematics.

So play with policy. In itself you can win at a casino, but you have to know when to stop again. The house always has an advantage, and in the long run it is profitable.
There can be only one measure, which can be formulated something like this: "I am ready to lose $100 today and I don’t play beyond this amount." This can help control losses and should never be driven to win back.

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June 16, 2022, 11:14:21 AM
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You can't win on gambling you can only try, casinos are not created to make money for players, it was created for people to have some fun, and have some entertainment after a hard day's work, you don't plan to deposit with a plan or hope to double your money, it's not going to work the house edge will bust your effort and expectation, just play on casinos what it is intended to be and that is, have some fun, if you win, withdraw it and treat yourself, then tomorrow its another session.
Absolutely agree with you. It's impossible to win when you're playing against a casino. You can only take part in the game. This business has been around for a very long time and there is a very small percentage of people who have been able to make money from gambling. So all we can do is play for fun. I'm sure it's impossible to make money from betting on sports, let alone casino games.

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June 16, 2022, 11:33:25 AM
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Its hard to win in gambling because its a game of luck, no assurance to win at all. Thus if you gamble its best to have less expectation.

what if one of your family (Father, Mother, Brother-Sister, or Wife) or relative (Uncle, Auntie) is addicted to gambling or becomes addicted? What do you do?
If a person became addicted giving advices would not be enough. I will encourage them to seek for professional help to overcome their addiction. A moral support that they have someone that can rely on during this trying time is a big help already. I've experience that hard part so I know the feeling of, you want to stop but hard to refrain yourself.

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You can't win on gambling you can only try, casinos are not created to make money for players, it was created for people to have some fun, and have some entertainment after a hard day's work, you don't plan to deposit with a plan or hope to double your money, it's not going to work the house edge will bust your effort and expectation, just play on casinos what it is intended to be and that is, have some fun, if you win, withdraw it and treat yourself, then tomorrow its another session.
Absolutely agree with you. It's impossible to win when you're playing against a casino. You can only take part in the game. This business has been around for a very long time and there is a very small percentage of people who have been able to make money from gambling. So all we can do is play for fun. I'm sure it's impossible to make money from betting on sports, let alone casino games.

Once you it is impossible, means that there is zero chance to win in gambling, is that even true?
I have to say you are completely wrong because there is always a chance for you to win, if there is zero chance to win in gambling then there will be no one gamble their money.
You are so sure that it is impossible, is it based on your own experience where you were always lose or just based on your assumption?

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June 16, 2022, 12:31:15 PM
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Once you it is impossible, means that there is zero chance to win in gambling, is that even true?
I have to say you are completely wrong because there is always a chance for you to win, if there is zero chance to win in gambling then there will be no one gamble their money.
You are so sure that it is impossible, is it based on your own experience where you were always lose or just based on your assumption?

Some people survive falling from a great height (during the WW2 there were cases when people with an unopened parachute survived - they fell on a haystack or on a snowy slope) but this does not mean that falling from a great height is "normal and safe" for a person. If you do not take extreme cases (exceptions), then it is obvious that gambling leads to loss.
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June 16, 2022, 01:28:54 PM
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Never ever blame yourself for their Addiction
Of course, I'll never blame myself if other people becomes addicted. I may be the one that introduced it to them but I don't hold and control their minds and pockets.

The freedom is within their hands and everything they do have an equal reaction. So if they don't gamble moderately and they become an active gambler that affects their living and family due to the addiction.

It is them that have to recognize themselves at fault.
I hope someone would not think gambling is like a source of income because that's not how things work. And if someone wins let them enjoy what they deserve if it's for their happiness but when it comes to difficult time like someone get addicted in gambling, I hope they don't blame it to someone who introduced it to them but rather learn from their mistakes. The person who introduced them to gambling have nothing to do with their current situation where they jeopardize themselves since gambling is designed that way.

Let's just enjoy gambling as for fun and never go beyond of what we expected since it's often gonna happen even if someone has an experience it's still doesn't mean that they are winning almost every day.
There will always be those people that will think that gambling is a source of income, that's the reality of life.

They have probably been lucky and they know the ways of making themselves satisfied with their profits in gambling. Not just only online but also physically.

You can look at those people that have been good with their gambling journey like in poker and sports betting. Can't blame them if they've been having a good journey with it.

But it doesn't mean that they're good at it, others should follow their steps and path. It could only work for them but maybe not for you and me.

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June 16, 2022, 01:41:48 PM
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Everyone wins at gambling once in a while. Of course we don't want to lose once. That moment will come, however, and then it is important to keep your wits about it. If you try to recoup your loss, you will end up losing even more money. So play with policy. In itself you can win at a casino, but you have to know when to stop again. The house always has an advantage, and in the long run it is profitable.
Everyone wants to win, but unfortunately, not everyone can win and most of them will lose at gambling. If it's an occasional win, it's not easy. By looking at the difficulty factor to get a win, we should not have to try hard to win because it is not as easy as we imagine. Maybe at the beginning of the game, we can win but as the greed factor grows, we can't stop and instead continue to play. That's what makes us finally get defeated.

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June 16, 2022, 01:52:46 PM
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i am also a gambling addict, but i think this gambling is just like playing games without expecting big wins from gambling. because winning or losing in games is a natural thing so don't expect to win at gambling, just think of it as entertainment to fill spare time.
and i play gambling never deposit more than 30% of my work income. if i win at that time i consider it just a bonus, but if i lose i will not continue.

so, even though i am a gambling addict but i understand that winning is impossible so i can control myself

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June 16, 2022, 01:59:09 PM
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so, even though i am a gambling addict but i understand that winning is impossible so i can control myself
but don't you have the will to win? I mean, when we play games or gamble, it's not just fun. there is hope for victory. even though we consciously know that in gambling games we will eventually lose. yes, although there are some victories awarded before the defeat.

but I applaud your self-control. not all gamblers have it. even when most suffer defeat, their true nature of being easily frustrated and short-tempered will come out.
we must be aware, we seek pleasure and satisfaction. not an income from gambling games.


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June 16, 2022, 02:57:57 PM
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Yes, there really is no pattern that will be the same every day, and gamblers know that.
But they don't seem to care about patterns and keep trying to play and have fun.
If 3 days in a row a gambler can get a big win, preferably on the 4th day, he rests and doesn't try to play again because there is a possibility that his luck is not with him.
Besides, he had already won a lot of money, so it was better just to enjoy his winning money.
If when you say that the fourth day the gambler needs to rest is based on the theory of probability, then the point here will not be how many days the gambler will rest, but the probability of the next event. You need to take into account a series of victories and understand that the loss will come. Therefore, it would be more logical here not to rest, but simply to reduce the amount of the bet with each subsequent bet in order to reduce the possible loss as the probability of losing increases.

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June 16, 2022, 03:12:10 PM
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Yes, it all depends on the math. If the mathematics of the game is correct (and it is almost always correct), then the casino has an advantage and it inevitably manifests itself at a distance. In rare cases, players find a bug in the mechanics (or software) of the game and can win until the bug is found and removed.

I think the likelihood of finding such bugs are minimal, so count on it does not make sense. Well, if someone manages to find a bug and beat the casino because of this, he obviously should withdraw funds more often as it is likely to displease the owner of the gaming platform, and most likely this player will quickly banned. 

The chance is minimal, but it exists. Yes, a regular withdrawal of funds will draw attention to the player and sooner or later it will be revealed, but there are several strategies on the part of the player to delay this event and withdraw as much as possible. I wouldn't have a problem with this since I know these strategies, but unfortunately I haven't found a bug yet to have a lot of cash out  Grin

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June 16, 2022, 08:06:44 PM
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Maybe if we can win, we need to calculate how much money we have spent to get that win and how often we can win that amount of money.
That way, we can see and calculate how likely we are to win the money next time and if we can be wise, we will always try to control our spending.
This is what we as gamblers need to realize so that we don't really lose in gambling but just want to have fun playing gambling.
It wouldn't work because you will get a different pattern and you can't make a decision based on that, I ever doing this to record my gambling activities before, but I didn't do it again anymore. Let's say on the day one, you won the biggest multiplier on the 50 spin, the day two, you won the biggest multiplier on the 70 spin. Now the day three, you won the biggest multiplier on your second spin. It's just purely of luck and there's no such pattern.
Yes, there really is no pattern that will be the same every day, and gamblers know that.
But they don't seem to care about patterns and keep trying to play and have fun.
If 3 days in a row a gambler can get a big win, preferably on the 4th day, he rests and doesn't try to play again because there is a possibility that his luck is not with him.
Besides, he had already won a lot of money, so it was better just to enjoy his winning money.
That's just a belief that after a 3 days straight big win, the bettor will rest in the 4th day as the bettor believe his luck will not be on his side on that specific day. We cannot possibly know when is our lucky day and that same bettor could've win 1 straight week if he tried but he/she choses to rest so he/she can neither identify if it's true that he will be unlucky in the 4th day.

There's no right and wrong way about that, we hold our own fate and it's our decision if we will proceed down the road whether we won or lost in the past days.

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June 16, 2022, 08:33:35 PM
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Best thing to do is bring them to a psychologist that will help them to lessen or escape their gambling addiction. It won't work if we just give advices to that addicted relative of ours, those experts know how to deal properly with gambling addiction. They could also provide some medication that will help the gambler to control himself from gambling. We should also help them guide through their way of addiction, we can make other activities that they like to do that will distract them from remembering gambling.
You're correct, a simple advice from a parents wouldn't change the addict to not gambling again because he can easily gamble on many online casinos out there. No one can stop him if he want to gamble, if he got self excluded in a site, he can find another casino who doesn't know him and they will let him play. Addiction is a serious case and a professional is always needed.
But, giving a simple advice is better than being not concerned to your loved one at all. Miracle's can still happen. When they know that someone cares for them they will realize that they are wrong and they will need to stop being addicted again so that their loved ones won't worry on them anymore but if things seem to not work as intended, that is the time to call a help from the experts.

The addicted gambler can't do anything to avoid them because they can force them to go with them in the rehabilitation center or do some injecting so that the patient will calm down or fall asleep. This seems brutal but it's for their own good anyway.

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