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June 20, 2022, 08:58:48 AM
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This gambling Guru may have overlooked that there are already casinos that implement self-exclusion and it's not giving a 100% percent success rate and many gamblers who are supposed to use this self-exclusion feature of the casino that's implementing this are just ignoring this.

You cannot compel gamblers on their own to use this feature, because gamblers are always in a denial stage that they need this tool to control their gambling addiction, the key here is still gambling education.

This is the reason why they set up guidelines and seminars and even offer online service advice just to persuade gamblers that have shown signs of compulsive gambling disorder.  I believe that the initial step is on the player himself but broadening the knowledge and understanding of an addicted player may open a path to recovery on their own accord.
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June 20, 2022, 09:42:59 AM
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You cannot compel gamblers on their own to use this feature, because gamblers are always in a denial stage that they need this tool to control their gambling addiction, the key here is still gambling education.

If we draw an analogy with alcohol, then the key is education about alcohol?  Cheesy To be honest, I have little idea how knowledge about addictions can help someone in the fight against them.
Regarding gambling, I would introduce into school education a section on the study of probabilities and how they work in gambling. This is very useful knowledge from a practical point of view. Instead, usually in schools they study a generalized theory and do not show how it works in practice.

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June 20, 2022, 11:25:30 AM
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This gambling Guru may have overlooked that there are already casinos that implement self-exclusion and it's not giving a 100% percent success rate and many gamblers who are supposed to use this self-exclusion feature of the casino that's implementing this are just ignoring this.

You cannot compel gamblers on their own to use this feature, because gamblers are always in a denial stage that they need this tool to control their gambling addiction, the key here is still gambling education.

This is the reason why they set up guidelines and seminars and even offer online service advice just to persuade gamblers that have shown signs of compulsive gambling disorder.  I believe that the initial step is on the player himself but broadening the knowledge and understanding of an addicted player may open a path to recovery on their own accord.
There must be aware that the addicted players want to improve their lives so that the online service can work for them. But we know that people who are addicted find it difficult to tell what they are experiencing to others because when they tell it, other people don't necessarily want to help immediately. The first step is to open up to want to share their problems with others, and then there are responses and solutions to fix them so they know what to do. Slowly and surely, those who are addicted will be able to solve the problem.

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June 20, 2022, 11:32:55 AM
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Actually it can be a thing of decision, if a gambler decides to stop, it would literally be very difficult for him, it's just a matter of time and determination. The gambler should see it as a thing that's not beneficial. As time goes on that gambler tries to forget about it and also trying to concentrate on other important things that would be more beneficial. Gradually he/she would forget and move on.
It is possible for it to be a thing of the past
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June 20, 2022, 08:43:45 PM
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Self exclusion can become useless for couple of reasons -
1. It all starts with oir willingness. If a gambler has a strong mind, he will be able to self exclude himself from gambling for as long as he wants. It all starts with us. Think about cigarette addiction. Unless the addicted person is willing to take action, nothing really happens.

2. There are multiple gambling websites available, including unlicensed ones. So even if someone has a strong mind to self exclude him from gambling for a specific period of time, it will be pretty easy for him to come back to gambling through another website.

Addiction can be treated through regular counseling. No measure of exclusion will work unless it is a forced one.
Self-exclusion will not be be helpful at all if the gambler itself denies his addiction and continue to gamble as if nothing is wrong with him. So definitely, it won't be a guarantee to overcome a gambling problem or an addiction itself. However, the only way not to create problem in gambling is to never gamble in the first place if you can't control yourself. Some may have the power to manage theirselves, but most of the gamblers fail on that.

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June 20, 2022, 08:59:24 PM
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Self exclusion can become useless for couple of reasons -
1. It all starts with oir willingness. If a gambler has a strong mind, he will be able to self exclude himself from gambling for as long as he wants. It all starts with us. Think about cigarette addiction. Unless the addicted person is willing to take action, nothing really happens.

2. There are multiple gambling websites available, including unlicensed ones. So even if someone has a strong mind to self exclude him from gambling for a specific period of time, it will be pretty easy for him to come back to gambling through another website.

Addiction can be treated through regular counseling. No measure of exclusion will work unless it is a forced one.
Self-exclusion will not be be helpful at all if the gambler itself denies his addiction and continue to gamble as if nothing is wrong with him. So definitely, it won't be a guarantee to overcome a gambling problem or an addiction itself. However, the only way not to create problem in gambling is to never gamble in the first place if you can't control yourself. Some may have the power to manage theirselves, but most of the gamblers fail on that.
Exclusion is useless indeed or something that won't work for those who are really that addicted but it's not also a bad idea for a casino to have yet there are still users who could actually stop their gambling activity via these exclusions which does simply means that it does work for sometime but not all or most of the time.

Quitting or stopping possible addiction is on someone's mind and if ever they don't have the intent on stopping then these kind of restrictions and limitations are useless.

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June 20, 2022, 09:48:49 PM
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Having this kind of tool in every online casino is really helpful but the main challenge is the people involved.  Are they willing to participate in the program?  That is the main issue unless Casino will cooperate and force implement this procedure to their players which is highly unlikely.  Aside from that this is still in the experimental stage so it is too early to say that this kind of tool will solve the gambling problem that had been in the industry since the beginning.  I think it will help but it won't make the gambling problem a thing of the past. So what do you think about this article's claim?

I think that a global self exclusion tool, that was mandatory to be used by fiat and crypto companies would be an absolute miracle. However due to the way the internet is designed, where sites can be hosted in non-cooperative jurisdictions, there simply is not a good enough level of coordination between countries to get it off the ground. We're also talking about huge amounts of money at stake, if someone was to drop that requirement they would be rolling in money. It would take many countries and an unprecedented effort to perform such a thing, which frankly is not going to happen any time soon. Gambling is a powerful force, but honestly people can overcome it but they are often a victim of their circumstances and environment - unless you fix those then it's hard to have the willpower to break free long term.

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June 22, 2022, 05:58:08 PM
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The only solution for gambling addicts is to seek medical treatment, the rest of the measures are just things that will not work if the person does not seek medical treatment. I read posts from people on this forum blaming the casino for sending him an email when he was addicted and had deleted his account, I even understood and gave the person reason, but the casino is also not to blame for the person to have played again. That's why I think the only solution is for the person to see a doctor and get treated
What happens is that no one knows what they are getting into when they become addicted to something, they believe they can at some point overcome their addiction and then go back to their previous life as if nothing ever happened, but things are never that simple, after a successful recovery the addicted will have to struggle for the rest of their life to never fall into temptation and become addicted again, this is a daily struggle as temptation is everywhere and unless they can keep such determination at some point they will be tempted and fall into addiction once again.
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Having this kind of tool in every online casino is really helpful but the main challenge is the people involved.  Are they willing to participate in the program?  That is the main issue unless Casino will cooperate and force implement this procedure to their players which is highly unlikely.  Aside from that this is still in the experimental stage so it is too early to say that this kind of tool will solve the gambling problem that had been in the industry since the beginning.  I think it will help but it won't make the gambling problem a thing of the past. So what do you think about this article's claim?

I think that a global self exclusion tool, that was mandatory to be used by fiat and crypto companies would be an absolute miracle. However due to the way the internet is designed, where sites can be hosted in non-cooperative jurisdictions, there simply is not a good enough level of coordination between countries to get it off the ground. We're also talking about huge amounts of money at stake, if someone was to drop that requirement they would be rolling in money. It would take many countries and an unprecedented effort to perform such a thing, which frankly is not going to happen any time soon. Gambling is a powerful force, but honestly people can overcome it but they are often a victim of their circumstances and environment - unless you fix those then it's hard to have the willpower to break free long term.

I don't think that is the best solution to work on auto-excluding platform. The best thing is to work on the player, because it would be necessary only a registration, or the slot machine near your home to fell for another

time in gambling addiction. Hope that gambling industry will improve instrument for this giant problem.

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July 01, 2022, 05:49:32 AM
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Actually it can be a thing of decision, if a gambler decides to stop, it would literally be very difficult for him, it's just a matter of time and determination. The gambler should see it as a thing that's not beneficial. As time goes on that gambler tries to forget about it and also trying to concentrate on other important things that would be more beneficial. Gradually he/she would forget and move on.
It is possible for it to be a thing of the past
We are currently living in an era where the Digital is what rules, and any ocsa is through the digital, in fact we have not yet entered the metaverses as it is, but I am sure that when it comes into existence it will be a boom where everything will be more focused there, the problems that one says of the past in gambling may come back here, that is why I always start from a premise, to play in a casino you have to have money just to spend and be willing to lose, For the rest, it is not good to get close to casinos, because many people lose and lose and this leads to depression and addiction, this should be avoided at all costs, gambling games should be solely and exclusively aimed at fun.

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July 01, 2022, 07:12:16 AM
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They will find out that they are addicted after experiencing a big change in their life and some people around them complain. But that doesn't stop them from gambling and instead will continue to gamble secretly. They can overcome the addiction if they really want to but it won't be easy for them because they are too late to realize it. But it would be better than nothing and they could overcome his gambling addiction with the support of those closest to them. Even after they recover from addiction, it will still be a long way for them to be able to continue to stay away from gambling, especially since they already know what the risks are if they return to gambling again.



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July 01, 2022, 07:45:11 AM
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Actually it can be a thing of decision, if a gambler decides to stop, it would literally be very difficult for him, it's just a matter of time and determination. The gambler should see it as a thing that's not beneficial. As time goes on that gambler tries to forget about it and also trying to concentrate on other important things that would be more beneficial. Gradually he/she would forget and move on.
It is possible for it to be a thing of the past

It is possible for people who really want it for people with great determination but those people are very few compared to the people who have not this great skill.Therefore gambling can be a thing of the past for very few persons from the ones that were addicted,only few make it like that famous Italian song says "1 in a million makes it",the majority of the gamblers who are addicted unfortunately cannot make gambling problems to be a thing of the past,they are sucked into addiction and continue so until they ruin everything.I hope this situation changes but so far very few from the addicted gamblers makes it that gambling problems can be a thing of the past.

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July 01, 2022, 08:11:20 AM
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Having this kind of tool in every online casino is really helpful but the main challenge is the people involved.  Are they willing to participate in the program?  That is the main issue unless Casino will cooperate and force implement this procedure to their players which is highly unlikely.  Aside from that this is still in the experimental stage so it is too early to say that this kind of tool will solve the gambling problem that had been in the industry since the beginning.  I think it will help but it won't make the gambling problem a thing of the past. So what do you think about this article's claim?


if we compare on a scale of 100 gambling addicts maybe only a few people are willing to participate in a self-exclusion program. I can confirm maybe only 1-5 people are willing. this is just an example
I agree that this is part of the challenge. and we need to know that gambling addicts are well aware that they are in trouble but the effects of addiction are difficult to stop. I think this requires the participation of other parties including spouses, parents or families.  with the encouragement and help of a third party I think self-exclusion can be effective.  the idea of ​​global self-exclusion is a very positive thing and I totally agree.
 
by the way some of my friends are gambling addicts they have lost everything and are still gambling.

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July 01, 2022, 08:59:06 AM
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Actually it can be a thing of decision, if a gambler decides to stop, it would literally be very difficult for him, it's just a matter of time and determination. The gambler should see it as a thing that's not beneficial. As time goes on that gambler tries to forget about it and also trying to concentrate on other important things that would be more beneficial. Gradually he/she would forget and move on.
It is possible for it to be a thing of the past

Of course things like gambling addictions can be overcome and it can become possible for it to be a thing of the past, but thats easier said than done. In reality most people need some kind of outside help when overcoming their gambling problems. Self help is really only going to bring you so far before you realise that you lack the discipline (as most people do) to go through with it.

Addictions are unfortunately a long term brain hormone disbalance. So "forgetting and moving on" is reallly just a fairy tale. That takes years.

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July 01, 2022, 11:36:06 AM
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Of course things like gambling addictions can be overcome and it can become possible for it to be a thing of the past, but thats easier said than done. In reality most people need some kind of outside help when overcoming their gambling problems. Self help is really only going to bring you so far before you realise that you lack the discipline (as most people do) to go through with it.

Addictions are unfortunately a long term brain hormone disbalance. So "forgetting and moving on" is reallly just a fairy tale. That takes years.
If you want to help yourself, you must have a strong awareness that you are having a gambling addiction problem to work towards overcoming it.
But the problem is, most people will not realize that they have become addicted even though they have used a lot of money just to gamble.
This makes it difficult for them to start overcoming the problem of gambling addiction.
And this is why they really need the help of others but without any intention from within us, it will be very difficult because we do not tell in detail what happened to us.

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July 01, 2022, 08:58:10 PM
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Self exclusion can become useless for couple of reasons -
1. It all starts with oir willingness. If a gambler has a strong mind, he will be able to self exclude himself from gambling for as long as he wants. It all starts with us. Think about cigarette addiction. Unless the addicted person is willing to take action, nothing really happens.

2. There are multiple gambling websites available, including unlicensed ones. So even if someone has a strong mind to self exclude him from gambling for a specific period of time, it will be pretty easy for him to come back to gambling through another website.

Addiction can be treated through regular counseling. No measure of exclusion will work unless it is a forced one.
Self-exclusion from gambling will still be useless if it’s only for temporary reasons. It will only be effective if that self-exclusion means he’s banned from all gambling sites forever. That way, his addiction will definitely be stopped, or just consult a medical practitioner that is expert on dealing with addiction. Self- exclusion gambling feature is just your first step, you still need therapy to finally heal your addiction and make you recover from it.

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July 01, 2022, 11:30:57 PM
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Self-exclusion from gambling will still be useless if it’s only for temporary reasons. It will only be effective if that self-exclusion means he’s banned from all gambling sites forever. That way, his addiction will definitely be stopped, or just consult a medical practitioner that is expert on dealing with addiction. Self- exclusion gambling feature is just your first step, you still need therapy to finally heal your addiction and make you recover from it.
If that gambler that has made it for himself to use self-exclusion in all casinos that he use. Only two things can come and happen for real.

1. The gambler will still find a way to gamble if he's not comfortable of what he did. I've tried that before to abstain for one activity that I've doing but I'm still finding a way to do it.

2. He can control and going with his will to quit for good but this is going to be a long process.

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July 01, 2022, 11:54:24 PM
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Self-exclusion from gambling will still be useless if it’s only for temporary reasons. It will only be effective if that self-exclusion means he’s banned from all gambling sites forever. That way, his addiction will definitely be stopped, or just consult a medical practitioner that is expert on dealing with addiction. Self- exclusion gambling feature is just your first step, you still need therapy to finally heal your addiction and make you recover from it.
If that gambler that has made it for himself to use self-exclusion in all casinos that he use. Only two things can come and happen for real.

1. The gambler will still find a way to gamble if he's not comfortable of what he did. I've tried that before to abstain for one activity that I've doing but I'm still finding a way to do it.

2. He can control and going with his will to quit for good but this is going to be a long process.
Gambling problem did exist since Gambling was invented. We dont know on when it actually started but much sure that gambling addiction is directly been molded because people are
way too emotional which creates that impulsive kind of behavior when we do talk or speaking of money. Addiction is a condition where you do mind off about making profits
with gambling and on the sense or situation that you are already spending much more of your finances than on the profits or money you are making.
You would definitely ending up on having a gambling problem if you dont set out limitations or having good control on oneself.

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July 02, 2022, 04:49:15 AM
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Definitely yes,it is possible to forget about gambling and focus on other things that will give you money.What I see about gambling is when one is jobless,and he decides to try other means of making money,gambling might tend to him as the surest way to make quick money,and therefore,he will choose to try  gambling,but before he knows it,it has become his habbit.
But one can still leave gambling and forget about it change is constant,and the moment one takes a strong decision on gambling,and decides not to try it again,it is possible to make it a thing of the past.But this has to be a decision that you will never go back on.
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If that gambler that has made it for himself to use self-exclusion in all casinos that he use. Only two things can come and happen for real.

1. The gambler will still find a way to gamble if he's not comfortable of what he did. I've tried that before to abstain for one activity that I've doing but I'm still finding a way to do it.

2. He can control and going with his will to quit for good but this is going to be a long process.
Gambling problem did exist since Gambling was invented. We dont know on when it actually started but much sure that gambling addiction is directly been molded because people are
way too emotional which creates that impulsive kind of behavior when we do talk or speaking of money. Addiction is a condition where you do mind off about making profits
with gambling and on the sense or situation that you are already spending much more of your finances than on the profits or money you are making.
You would definitely ending up on having a gambling problem if you dont set out limitations or having good control on oneself.
And it's not just all about profits.

It's actually a habit that can never be stopped unless you really want to. It's hard to control when you're already controlled by your addiction and you don't listen to anybody.

That's when you get hard headed and you only believe in yourself and you think that there's no sense of listening to others when you think that you're still doing fine but in reality, you're not.

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