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July 12, 2022, 01:12:52 AM
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Everyone knows that they need to be disciplined in gambling and do not have to be emotional while doing gamble. However, once we start to gamble, we forget everything, and our only focus is limited to only earning quick money. Greediness makes us lose in gambling because it's the greed due to which gamblers will lose their money and never win anything substantial from gambling.
Yes, everyone knows they need discipline but most people don't keep themselves disciplined, especially if they are on a winning streak. Gradually they will surely forget to stay disciplined because, at the same time, the level of greed, pleasure, and temptation will increase drastically and they will want more than they already have. Instead of stopping, they continue to play, making us lose in large numbers. So if you don't want to lose a lot of money, you have to be able to maintain your discipline so that you can avoid losing a lot of money.

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July 12, 2022, 03:40:41 AM
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Sad that there wasn't a big mention about the ancient Rome part. I mean it's much more than just a passing line, we know all about it. Hell even the famous quote of Ceaser "alea aecte est" is literally "the dice are rolled", like let's see what's going to happen. This is why I believe that "alea" as in dice, played a huge role in roman times.

From slaves to lanistas, from generals to "kings" consul, regular people, everyone played dice there. This is why it has been one of the oldest games ever, and literally first gambling crypto ever got as well. "Aleatorium" is the place where it's like a casino, basically a gambling house where you drink and you roll dices.

It is understandable that gambling in ancient Rome isn't highlighted, since the discussion is about history in general.  Maybe you can create a new topic where it discusses Ancient Rome's gambling history highlights.  If OP has to present the gambling history in full detail then OP might take more than a month to compile them all.  But well yeah, we can share historic trivia here to spice up the discussion.
What happens is that the history of gambling is so deep that it would be impossible to cover everything in just a post, there are whole books that just list the games you can play with cards, so a whole series of books will probably be needed in order to cover the history of gambling and how it has shaped the lives of the people living at a particular era and civilization, so we must accept the limitations that comes from having to summarize the history of gambling in a single post.

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July 12, 2022, 06:11:25 AM
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Sad that there wasn't a big mention about the ancient Rome part. I mean it's much more than just a passing line, we know all about it. Hell even the famous quote of Ceaser "alea aecte est" is literally "the dice are rolled", like let's see what's going to happen. This is why I believe that "alea" as in dice, played a huge role in roman times.

From slaves to lanistas, from generals to "kings" consul, regular people, everyone played dice there. This is why it has been one of the oldest games ever, and literally first gambling crypto ever got as well. "Aleatorium" is the place where it's like a casino, basically a gambling house where you drink and you roll dices.

It is understandable that gambling in ancient Rome isn't highlighted, since the discussion is about history in general.  Maybe you can create a new topic where it discusses Ancient Rome's gambling history highlights.  If OP has to present the gambling history in full detail then OP might take more than a month to compile them all.  But well yeah, we can share historic trivia here to spice up the discussion.
agreeing on this because indeed that this is about History in which when and where started and not about the full range of gambling because for sure , even Chinese will take their part from this topic and the whole world will be taking part  Grin
and also I am afraid about the Ancient Rome gambling in which for me is Bloody and inhumane .

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July 12, 2022, 02:07:19 PM
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Sad that there wasn't a big mention about the ancient Rome part. I mean it's much more than just a passing line, we know all about it. Hell even the famous quote of Ceaser "alea aecte est" is literally "the dice are rolled", like let's see what's going to happen. This is why I believe that "alea" as in dice, played a huge role in roman times.

From slaves to lanistas, from generals to "kings" consul, regular people, everyone played dice there. This is why it has been one of the oldest games ever, and literally first gambling crypto ever got as well. "Aleatorium" is the place where it's like a casino, basically a gambling house where you drink and you roll dices.

It is understandable that gambling in ancient Rome isn't highlighted, since the discussion is about history in general.  Maybe you can create a new topic where it discusses Ancient Rome's gambling history highlights.  If OP has to present the gambling history in full detail then OP might take more than a month to compile them all.  But well yeah, we can share historic trivia here to spice up the discussion.
agreeing on this because indeed that this is about History in which when and where started and not about the full range of gambling because for sure , even Chinese will take their part from this topic and the whole world will be taking part  Grin
and also I am afraid about the Ancient Rome gambling in which for me is Bloody and inhumane .

The Chinese ancient gambling history might also take time to dig its history details. They did create games thats proprietary to Chinese only like the Mahjong. But its actually the same concept as the cards, which comes up the first we don't know. But we do know they were very creative since the Qin dynasty. They were always the first before the west, remember that gunpowder was first created by them.

Up to this day gambling still is a taboo in the country as its illegal but they do have particular islands to where they are allowed to gamble like Hongkong and Macau.







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July 12, 2022, 03:04:51 PM
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Dice 3000 BC ago and dice until now.  Cheesy Perhaps they could find a way to use that same dice because that really looks cool.

To add one more at the 1600s era. There were also cards from Spain. Baraja Española. Spanish-suited playing cards.

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Spanish-suited playing cards or Spanish-suited cards have four suits, and a deck is usually made up of 40 or 48 cards (or even 50 by including two jokers). It is categorized as a Latin-suited deck and has strong similarities with the Italian-suited deck and some to the French deck. Spanish-suited cards are used in Spain, southern Italy, parts of France, Hispanic America, North Africa, and the Philippines.[1][2]
Most Filipino brothers here would know this. These cards are used in a game called "sakla" when there's a funeral going on. Played this game when I was young and we would even go far as to visit other funerals who we don't even know just to play (bet) the game.
The purpose is to get donations from every bet that will happen or some do it in contracts.
1521 is when Spain discovered the Philippines and we acquired most of their traditions including this game of cards.

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July 12, 2022, 04:40:34 PM
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Everyone knows that they need to be disciplined in gambling and do not have to be emotional while doing gamble. However, once we start to gamble, we forget everything, and our only focus is limited to only earning quick money. Greediness makes us lose in gambling because it's the greed due to which gamblers will lose their money and never win anything substantial from gambling.
Yes, everyone knows they need discipline but most people don't keep themselves disciplined, especially if they are on a winning streak. Gradually they will surely forget to stay disciplined because, at the same time, the level of greed, pleasure, and temptation will increase drastically and they will want more than they already have. Instead of stopping, they continue to play, making us lose in large numbers. So if you don't want to lose a lot of money, you have to be able to maintain your discipline so that you can avoid losing a lot of money.

You guys are right, it's very important to to take caution in everything one does regarding gambling and stay focus avoiding all forms of distractions, some were influenced by friends to go to an extent they never could have attempted alone, too much of everything is bad, gambling though has made some and in the same manners cause some to experience bankrupt in finance because they kafk the ability to exhibit caution.
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July 12, 2022, 06:11:26 PM
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Everyone knows that they need to be disciplined in gambling and do not have to be emotional while doing gamble. However, once we start to gamble, we forget everything, and our only focus is limited to only earning quick money. Greediness makes us lose in gambling because it's the greed due to which gamblers will lose their money and never win anything substantial from gambling.
For those who think that there is something wrong with the way they play, yes they are the ones that needs to be checked by a psychiatrist if ever controlling the habit by themselves seems impossible but for those who are still normal, I think it's alright to become emotional as we are just a human, we are not robots which doesn't feel anything whatever the outcomes we get although in gambling we have those auto bet function and also those gambling bots, they might help us dealing with our emotions when gambling.

It's not greed that makes us lose in gambling but it was its difficulty which is set to the highest possible level tho it's still possible to win but we should stop because if we become greedy then these wins are going to turn into losses.

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July 12, 2022, 06:57:18 PM
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Everyone knows that they need to be disciplined in gambling and do not have to be emotional while doing gamble. However, once we start to gamble, we forget everything, and our only focus is limited to only earning quick money. Greediness makes us lose in gambling because it's the greed due to which gamblers will lose their money and never win anything substantial from gambling.
For those who think that there is something wrong with the way they play, yes they are the ones that needs to be checked by a psychiatrist if ever controlling the habit by themselves seems impossible but for those who are still normal, I think it's alright to become emotional as we are just a human, we are not robots which doesn't feel anything whatever the outcomes we get although in gambling we have those auto bet function and also those gambling bots, they might help us dealing with our emotions when gambling.

It's not greed that makes us lose in gambling but it was its difficulty which is set to the highest possible level tho it's still possible to win but we should stop because if we become greedy then these wins are going to turn into losses.

I think, although this would probably seem as a very outrageous idea in the gambling community, that every single person who wishes to gamble must be cleared by a psychologist/psychiatrist before they are even allowed near gambling. This would serve to filter out the already mentally unstable from the mentally healthy and would ensure that no gambling casinos can make money by exploiting the already fragile minds of people who are suffering mental illnesses.

We do not let gambling casinos exploit children, so why do we let them exploit the mentally ill?

Nobody seems to care.

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July 12, 2022, 08:58:47 PM
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I think, although this would probably seem as a very outrageous idea in the gambling community, that every single person who wishes to gamble must be cleared by a psychologist/psychiatrist before they are even allowed near gambling. This would serve to filter out the already mentally unstable from the mentally healthy and would ensure that no gambling casinos can make money by exploiting the already fragile minds of people who are suffering mental illnesses.
Unfortunately, this could never be the case and personally, I dont endorse the idea. Not because its not good but it still won't help so much. Gambling is the game that could turn even a sane man insane! Hence, having a psychologist/psychiatrist check gamblers before thy get the chance might just be defeated. Again, how long will it take to go through the steps, what would be the means of verification by the casinos even if they were to present a report (you know that could be forged) and these gambling casinos or sportsbookie wants customers so, why woukd dey walk that part. It would b a regulation to by pass so, its either a ban or we can only hope.
Banning even won't solve no problem as addicts would always find there way. Maybe some are ment to learn the hard way and a few do!
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July 12, 2022, 09:10:17 PM
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Wow, are really those that old?
I thought those card were invented around 1800-1900!
Here in Venezuela there are very popular, even more popular than the poke cards I would say.

They are used to play many kind of card games, some are even from particular locations or states of the country.
The most popular game is Truco  Wink . Played in social meetings, in campuses, while drinking and during long travels.

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July 12, 2022, 09:26:50 PM
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Sad that there wasn't a big mention about the ancient Rome part. I mean it's much more than just a passing line, we know all about it. Hell even the famous quote of Ceaser "alea aecte est" is literally "the dice are rolled", like let's see what's going to happen. This is why I believe that "alea" as in dice, played a huge role in roman times.

From slaves to lanistas, from generals to "kings" consul, regular people, everyone played dice there. This is why it has been one of the oldest games ever, and literally first gambling crypto ever got as well. "Aleatorium" is the place where it's like a casino, basically a gambling house where you drink and you roll dices.

It is understandable that gambling in ancient Rome isn't highlighted, since the discussion is about history in general.  Maybe you can create a new topic where it discusses Ancient Rome's gambling history highlights.  If OP has to present the gambling history in full detail then OP might take more than a month to compile them all.  But well yeah, we can share historic trivia here to spice up the discussion.
agreeing on this because indeed that this is about History in which when and where started and not about the full range of gambling because for sure , even Chinese will take their part from this topic and the whole world will be taking part  Grin
and also I am afraid about the Ancient Rome gambling in which for me is Bloody and inhumane .

The Chinese ancient gambling history might also take time to dig its history details. They did create games thats proprietary to Chinese only like the Mahjong. But its actually the same concept as the cards, which comes up the first we don't know. But we do know they were very creative since the Qin dynasty. They were always the first before the west, remember that gunpowder was first created by them.

Up to this day gambling still is a taboo in the country as its illegal but they do have particular islands to where they are allowed to gamble like Hongkong and Macau.

This is true, we don't even know which comes and was invented first, is it mahjong or cards and we don't even know which one came first. Chinese gambling history is so deep enough to recover because their history falls and differs on every dynasty and every dynasty has its own distinctive inventions to make them unique from other dynasty, correct me if I'm wrong here.

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Up to this day gambling still is a taboo in the country as its illegal but they do have particular islands to where they are allowed to gamble like Hongkong and Macau.

Hong Kong and Macau is the only two special administrative region of China (SAR) where the citizens here are enjoying a different system of politics and has more freedom like gambling than its mainland, China.

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July 12, 2022, 09:35:27 PM
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Gambling precedes civilization and i kinda believe it's something the people of old used in whiling away time at leisures not until the Romans engaged the gladiator gambling pattern where lives were part of stakes in arena's.
When it comes to addiction in gambling, it's just something one can't really describe or explain how since the habit is spontaneous as one continuous or engages gambling without recourse to self control in the initial.
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July 12, 2022, 09:59:35 PM
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Gambling precedes civilization and i kinda believe it's something the people of old used in whiling away time at leisures not until the Romans engaged the gladiator gambling pattern where lives were part of stakes in arena's.
^ That was a bloody sport that Romans found, inside the arena the strongest will survive bit now, it is purely sports but they are the same in the arena. Did you know that NBA sports have 29 arenas? The history of sports gambling has been civilized into a modern one though they have the same sports it has a different approach it is more friendly sports than what we are now compared to Roman's time.
Great history of gambling, can you point out who is the first big winner in an online gambling casinos.
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July 13, 2022, 04:07:53 AM
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Everyone knows that they need to be disciplined in gambling and do not have to be emotional while doing gamble. However, once we start to gamble, we forget everything, and our only focus is limited to only earning quick money. Greediness makes us lose in gambling because it's the greed due to which gamblers will lose their money and never win anything substantial from gambling.
Yes, everyone knows they need discipline but most people don't keep themselves disciplined, especially if they are on a winning streak. Gradually they will surely forget to stay disciplined because, at the same time, the level of greed, pleasure, and temptation will increase drastically and they will want more than they already have. Instead of stopping, they continue to play, making us lose in large numbers. So if you don't want to lose a lot of money, you have to be able to maintain your discipline so that you can avoid losing a lot of money.

You guys are right, it's very important to to take caution in everything one does regarding gambling and stay focus avoiding all forms of distractions, some were influenced by friends to go to an extent they never could have attempted alone, too much of everything is bad, gambling though has made some and in the same manners cause some to experience bankrupt in finance because they kafk the ability to exhibit caution.
Yes, that's absolutely true. Maybe being influenced by friends is such a big factor in that person that he will follow his friends and end up having a bad experience. That is why we have to be very careful in socializing and smart in choosing friends who will not get us into a difficult situation, even if they invite us to gamble. And if we follow them, they will not suggest using more money. Besides that, they can take care of each other and won't let their friends experience unpleasant events.

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Gambling precedes civilization and i kinda believe it's something the people of old used in whiling away time at leisures not until the Romans engaged the gladiator gambling pattern where lives were part of stakes in arena's.
^ That was a bloody sport that Romans found, inside the arena the strongest will survive bit now, it is purely sports but they are the same in the arena. Did you know that NBA sports have 29 arenas? The history of sports gambling has been civilized into a modern one though they have the same sports it has a different approach it is more friendly sports than what we are now compared to Roman's time.
Great history of gambling, can you point out who is the first big winner in an online gambling casinos.

Well, I felt interested in this question myself, so I went to Google for an answer. I found a list of the largest payouts in the history of slot machines (this is not really relevant to the question, but I will share it anyway). 1. $27.6 million - Megabucks slot machines. The anonymous player in 1998. 2. $21.3 million - Megabucks slot machines. The anonymous player in 1999. 3. $35 million - Megabucks slot machines. Cynthia Jay-Brennan in 2000. 4. $39.7 million - Megabucks slot machines. Software engineer in 2003. 5. $21.1 million - Megabucks slot machines. Elmer Sherwin in 2005. 6. 11.7 million euros - Mega Fortune slot machine. Norwegian player in 2011. 7. 17.8 million euros - Mega Fortune slot machine. An anonymous player in 2013. 8. 13.2 million pounds - Mega Moolah slot machine. John Heywood in 2015. 9. € 18.9 million - Mega Moolah slot machine. The anonymous player in 2018. 10. $20 million - Mega Moolah slot machine. Canadian player in 2019. 11. $22.6 million - Megabucks slot machines. Johanna Handl in 2020.
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July 13, 2022, 01:54:10 PM
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Sad that there wasn't a big mention about the ancient Rome part. I mean it's much more than just a passing line, we know all about it. Hell even the famous quote of Ceaser "alea aecte est" is literally "the dice are rolled", like let's see what's going to happen. This is why I believe that "alea" as in dice, played a huge role in roman times.

From slaves to lanistas, from generals to "kings" consul, regular people, everyone played dice there. This is why it has been one of the oldest games ever, and literally first gambling crypto ever got as well. "Aleatorium" is the place where it's like a casino, basically a gambling house where you drink and you roll dices.

It is understandable that gambling in ancient Rome isn't highlighted, since the discussion is about history in general.  Maybe you can create a new topic where it discusses Ancient Rome's gambling history highlights.  If OP has to present the gambling history in full detail then OP might take more than a month to compile them all.  But well yeah, we can share historic trivia here to spice up the discussion.
Gambling in general is wide and broaden depending on the year and time of the gambling period. Also different region has their own gambling history which might be a little bit different from what op had present here. We can't even talk about gambling history in one article written because it is versatile and depend on the year history that is intended to be discussed.

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July 13, 2022, 03:57:18 PM
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I had not the slightest idea that the ideas of casinos and games of chance were around for many years, but I wonder what they bet on if there was no money, it is said that since time immemorial man discovered that gold and precious stones had a very great value, and this could have been the object of many bets, perhaps gold morocotas that are still seen in supposed houses where the ancestors have left those treasures, all these things and myths can come from games of chance in those times, where alcohol also existed.
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July 13, 2022, 05:15:26 PM
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I had not the slightest idea that the ideas of casinos and games of chance were around for many years.

I did have an idea, as I have been curious about gambling. The OP has made a good summary but if you want more info you can google or Youtube. I particularly like the role mobsters played in the development of Las Vegas.
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July 14, 2022, 11:52:29 AM
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I had not the slightest idea that the ideas of casinos and games of chance were around for many years.

I did have an idea, as I have been curious about gambling. The OP has made a good summary but if you want more info you can google or Youtube. I particularly like the role mobsters played in the development of Las Vegas.

A great thread that immerses in the world history of mankind! This person really did a great job collecting information. It just takes my breath away when I think about what journey humanity has made, even in gambling. And how much is still to come...
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July 14, 2022, 01:42:28 PM
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The history of gambling is quite well studied, it seems to me that it is much more interesting to look at it from the perspective of the further evolution of gambling, what awaits humanity in the near future, however, it should be borne in mind that gambling is inherently quite conservative.
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