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August 11, 2022, 08:14:02 AM
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All right!  It is impossible to ban gambling for two reasons.  Firstly, the very nature of people inclines them to the curiosity and excitement of the pioneers and, of course, the desire of everyone to win.  Secondly, those people or organizations that arrange gambling, of course, make money on it. 
The result is the interaction of these parties, which is not able to overcome the prohibitions of different religions, much less the prohibitions of legislators and governments.
Therefore, the history of gambling is inextricably linked with the history of the development of the entire civilization.

It is not impossible to ban gambling.  If the government wanted to ban gambling, they can ban it promptly.  Even history can show you that gambling can be ban.  Ancient Rome ban gambling, China ban gambling, and many other government especially those with Muslim religions ban gambling.  Gambling  can easily be ban but it cannot be stopped.  People will find way to engage in gambling activity eve if it is illegal.
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August 11, 2022, 06:46:24 PM
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It is not impossible to ban gambling.  If the government wanted to ban gambling, they can ban it promptly.  Even history can show you that gambling can be ban.  Ancient Rome ban gambling, China ban gambling, and many other government especially those with Muslim religions ban gambling.  Gambling  can easily be ban but it cannot be stopped.  People will find way to engage in gambling activity eve if it is illegal.

That's true. A total ban on gambling is not a viable option. It can be banned but the government cannot stop people who are really interested in gambling. They will find a way to gamble even if it is illegal. And they can't stop online gambling since the internet is so open to everyone. The only think I think is logical is the legalization of gambling in a controlled and regulated environment.

Finally, gambling is a wasting habit which is not good for our economic stability or social life. If there is no proper regulation and gambling bets are placed illegally, it will be abused and the negative impact on society can be severe.

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August 11, 2022, 07:12:36 PM
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Everything out there is a bet really. Just think of every day life, you will be taking many decisions. Some of them are stupid and some of them are trivial - like what to dress or what to eat. However, many of the decision you take have pros and cons that are really important for your life and the life of other that you love. Something as stupid as to decide if you would take over a car in a road is a bet.

That's a very interesting thought. I drew a small conclusion from this idea. If a person doesn't want to make decisions in his life or is afraid of it, then he can realize the need to make decisions through gambling. I think this is something from the psychology of gambling.
This thought of yours is a laughable suggestion from my perspective I believe that a gambling is just like a play where people just catch from and do some other things then feel like to do so that is the elementary explanation of gambling it does not necessarily mean that you must do make money through gambling so it is like something that we use to wash out in motion or wiper motion feelings so that life will continue to go on and sometimes many people just capture the thing from their own way that gambling can be addicted and then when you are detailed in gambling your life will become miserable
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August 11, 2022, 08:25:27 PM
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It is not impossible to ban gambling.  If the government wanted to ban gambling, they can ban it promptly.  Even history can show you that gambling can be ban.  Ancient Rome ban gambling, China ban gambling, and many other government especially those with Muslim religions ban gambling.  Gambling  can easily be ban but it cannot be stopped.  People will find way to engage in gambling activity eve if it is illegal.

That's true. A total ban on gambling is not a viable option. It can be banned but the government cannot stop people who are really interested in gambling. They will find a way to gamble even if it is illegal. And they can't stop online gambling since the internet is so open to everyone. The only think I think is logical is the legalization of gambling in a controlled and regulated environment.

Finally, gambling is a wasting habit which is not good for our economic stability or social life. If there is no proper regulation and gambling bets are placed illegally, it will be abused and the negative impact on society can be severe.


The main reason governments don't ban gambling is the money it brings. Gambling houses earn a lot and they pay a lot of taxes. These places also require licenses that cost money and have to be renewed. If they do anything wrong they can be fined which is also money for the government. If they ban them all of that income is gone and people will still gamble in shady dens located in a basement where they'll be cheated and robbed every day.

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August 11, 2022, 09:23:56 PM
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Did you know that the longest poker games happened way back 1881?  It lasted for eight years, five months, and three days.  It was held in the basement of a theater in Arizona. It was played on a rolling 24 hours basis with occasional sleep and comfort break.[1]  Lol, i thought a 24 hours straight gaming is too long.  It looks like it is nothing compared to the mentioned Poker game.


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August 12, 2022, 07:19:27 AM
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There is reference of gambling in every religious book, be it Hinduism, Muslim, Jews or Christian.
In every religion people are forbidden to gamble- I dont find any reference in any religion where people are invited to gamble and consume alcohol or do adultery. But then we all do it.
Yes, people are forbidden in all these religious books because gambling if not controlled can be addictive, and an addictive gambler is a danger not only to himself but his family members at large, because such people could gamble with anything that comes into there mind (house, car or last money) not minding how others will feel, which is actually a bad habit, which is why this Holy books prohibit it, but not that gambling is bad in itself, but it's when it's been abuse that it because harmful.

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August 12, 2022, 08:17:31 AM
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There is reference of gambling in every religious book, be it Hinduism, Muslim, Jews or Christian.
In every religion people are forbidden to gamble- I dont find any reference in any religion where people are invited to gamble and consume alcohol or do adultery. But then we all do it.
Yes, people are forbidden in all these religious books ...

I don't think that's true. I can't say that I'm familiar with all these religious books (although, I think I read somewhere that gambling is forbidden in the Kur'an), but I'm pretty sure that gambling is not forbidden in the Bible.

@lionheart78 explained it nicely a few pages back:

Definitely, there is a verse in since the New Testament happened during the Ancient Roman Empire Era.  That is when the cloth of Jesus of Nazareth where gambled by the Roman Empire Soldier when Jesus was bleeding on the cross
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After they had nailed [Jesus] to the cross, the soldiers gambled for his clothes by throwing dice. Then they sat around and kept guard as he hung there. A sign was fastened above Jesus' head, announcing the charge against him. It read: "This is Jesus, the King of the Jews." Two revolutionaries were crucified with him, one on his right and one on his left.
— Matthew 27:35-37 NLT

But there is no direct statement or sentence that prohibits gambling in the Bible,[1]
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Although no Bible verse states, “Thou shalt not gamble,” we are encouraged to be generous to those in need (James 1:27) and avoid chasing after riches (Proverbs 28:20).

As a matter of fact, in the earlier part of the Bible, Israelites uses a toss of coin or cast lots (which can be called a gambling) to have a decision.[2]
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Is gambling in the Bible?
It’s probably a stretch to say that gambling is referenced throughout the Bible. It is true that people “cast lots,” which was a chance-based way of making decisions, such as the flipping of a coin. Although we don’t know the exact methods involved, it involved leaving the outcome to chance, such as perhaps randomly selecting from sticks of various lengths or from stones of various colors.

But casting lots did figure prominently in parts of the biblical narrative. The Israelites cast lots in order to determine land apportionments (e.g., Num. 26:55) and temple officials (1 Chron. 24:5), and the early church cast lots to choose who would replace Judas Iscariot as the twelfth apostle (Acts 1:26).

Casting lots was practiced by non-Israelites too, for example, to figure out who was responsible for calamity (Jonah 1:7) and to see who won Jesus’ garments at his crucifixion (Matt. 27:35). Of these examples, casting lots for Jesus’ garments seems to be closest to our understanding of gambling because it involved a game, not just the need to make a decision.


[1] https://answersingenesis.org/christianity/values/gambling-dont-bet-on-chance/
[2] https://renew.org/is-gambling-a-sin/

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August 12, 2022, 02:22:37 PM
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There is reference of gambling in every religious book, be it Hinduism, Muslim, Jews or Christian.
In every religion people are forbidden to gamble- I dont find any reference in any religion where people are invited to gamble and consume alcohol or do adultery. But then we all do it.
Yes, people are forbidden in all these religious books because gambling if not controlled can be addictive, and an addictive gambler is a danger not only to himself but his family members at large, because such people could gamble with anything that comes into there mind (house, car or last money) not minding how others will feel, which is actually a bad habit, which is why this Holy books prohibit it, but not that gambling is bad in itself, but it's when it's been abuse that it because harmful.
Actually, in religion, gambling, alcohol and adultery are prohibited. However, we often defend ourselves by saying we are not dragged too deep into gambling, can still control our gambling habits, and don't get addicted. But for people who are already addicted, even some of them have severe addictions, that doesn't apply because they don't say anything but still play gambling. And the history of gambling which started long ago continues to grow because many of those who do not obey their religion continue to play gambling. Some of them are religious but also play gambling.

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August 12, 2022, 02:53:09 PM
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Actually, in religion, gambling, alcohol and adultery are prohibited. <...>

Actually, it depends on which religion you are talking about. As you mentioned alcohol, I assume you are referring to Islam. There are many other religions in the world and not all religions follow the same rules. For example, I am a Christian and I follow the rules of the Bible, not the rules of the Quran.

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August 12, 2022, 04:01:53 PM
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Actually, in religion, gambling, alcohol and adultery are prohibited. <...>

Actually, it depends on which religion you are talking about. As you mentioned alcohol, I assume you are referring to Islam. There are many other religions in the world and not all religions follow the same rules. For example, I am a Christian and I follow the rules of the Bible, not the rules of the Quran.


There is no written thing about Alcohol being prohibited in the Holy Scripture (same goes with gambling) but too much of it, like getting drunk, excessiveness and addiction may lead to sin.  So even Bible advises doing everything in moderation.

There is reference of gambling in every religious book, be it Hinduism, Muslim, Jews or Christian.
In every religion people are forbidden to gamble- I dont find any reference in any religion where people are invited to gamble and consume alcohol or do adultery. But then we all do it.
Yes, people are forbidden in all these religious books because gambling if not controlled can be addictive, and an addictive gambler is a danger not only to himself but his family members at large, because such people could gamble with anything that comes into there mind (house, car or last money) not minding how others will feel, which is actually a bad habit, which is why this Holy books prohibit it, but not that gambling is bad in itself, but it's when it's been abuse that it because harmful.

Greed is prohibited in the Bible (1 Timothy 6:10) not gambling.  But excessive gambling activity may lead us to sin. Please take note of the word excessive, and may lead.  



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August 12, 2022, 05:00:21 PM
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Actually, in religion, gambling, alcohol and adultery are prohibited. <...>

Actually, it depends on which religion you are talking about. As you mentioned alcohol, I assume you are referring to Islam. There are many other religions in the world and not all religions follow the same rules. For example, I am a Christian and I follow the rules of the Bible, not the rules of the Quran.


There is no written thing about Alcohol being prohibited in the Holy Scripture (same goes with gambling) but too much of it, like getting drunk, excessiveness and addiction may lead to sin.  So even Bible advises doing everything in moderation.

That's right. It's just that everyone has different beliefs and teachings, which one should respect and accept. There is no point in judging others based on what they believe or do, as long as their belief or acts do not hurt anyone. And no one should impose their religious beliefs over others. It is a good practice to respect other religions and their views, just as one expects others to respect his own. What we believe and why doesn't matter in the end; what matters is how we choose to act towards one another and our environment.

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August 12, 2022, 06:08:01 PM
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All right!  It is impossible to ban gambling for two reasons.  Firstly, the very nature of people inclines them to the curiosity and excitement of the pioneers and, of course, the desire of everyone to win.  Secondly, those people or organizations that arrange gambling, of course, make money on it. 
The result is the interaction of these parties, which is not able to overcome the prohibitions of different religions, much less the prohibitions of legislators and governments.
Therefore, the history of gambling is inextricably linked with the history of the development of the entire civilization.

It is not impossible to ban gambling.  If the government wanted to ban gambling, they can ban it promptly.  Even history can show you that gambling can be ban.  Ancient Rome ban gambling, China ban gambling, and many other government especially those with Muslim religions ban gambling.  Gambling  can easily be ban but it cannot be stopped.  People will find way to engage in gambling activity eve if it is illegal.
Not impossible, yes but how effective the banning was is another matter. As you said, the government has tried to ban any form of gambling many times but people are creative and found a loophole later to evade it. Serve punishment for gambling is typical for the people who illegally host gambling activities. If you were a player, your punishment is lighter compared to that. A good reason why most sportsbooks were based in countries that legalize them. The overall trend from the government has also changed from banning to legalizing it.
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August 12, 2022, 06:36:17 PM
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Greed is prohibited in the Bible (1 Timothy 6:10) not gambling.  But excessive gambling activity may lead us to sin. Please take note of the word excessive, and may lead.  
Yes, gambling is leading everybody to become greedy so it lies down to sin. It creates emotion and that's why it is being generalized by everyone that it's a sin.
Well, it's still an activity that each individual has the power to conquer its negative effect or allow it to control us which is making the others to have a bad ending.

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Greed is prohibited in the Bible (1 Timothy 6:10) not gambling.  But excessive gambling activity may lead us to sin. Please take note of the word excessive, and may lead.  
Yes, gambling is leading everybody to become greedy so it lies down to sin. It creates emotion and that's why it is being generalized by everyone that it's a sin.
Well, it's still an activity that each individual has the power to conquer its negative effect or allow it to control us which is making the others to have a bad ending.
But at the end - everyone quits alcohol - they leave gambling and they leave adultery as well.
There is no goods attached to it.
Moderation you are right is important but than again there is no control over one's emotion while being into it. so better safe than sorry

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Actually, in religion, gambling, alcohol and adultery are prohibited. <...>

Actually, it depends on which religion you are talking about. As you mentioned alcohol, I assume you are referring to Islam. There are many other religions in the world and not all religions follow the same rules. For example, I am a Christian and I follow the rules of the Bible, not the rules of the Quran.

But the Bible also doesn't recommend drinking alcohol, right? So basically, all religious teachings do not encourage or may prohibit things like alcohol, gambling, adultery and others through their religious teachings. And we follow the rules that apply according to the teachings of our religion.

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August 13, 2022, 03:41:59 PM
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Greed is prohibited in the Bible (1 Timothy 6:10) not gambling.  But excessive gambling activity may lead us to sin. Please take note of the word excessive, and may lead.  
Yes, gambling is leading everybody to become greedy so it lies down to sin. It creates emotion and that's why it is being generalized by everyone that it's a sin.
Well, it's still an activity that each individual has the power to conquer its negative effect or allow it to control us which is making the others to have a bad ending.
But at the end - everyone quits alcohol - they leave gambling and they leave adultery as well.
There is no goods attached to it.
Not everyone has a success story in quitting and these vices are always said to be attached together but it all depends on the person who is doing these.

Moderation you are right is important but than again there is no control over one's emotion while being into it. so better safe than sorry
That's why not everyone will end up good with all of their overcoming stories. It's being done by many but not all of them are quitting for real and even in the past, the same situations and experiences from different people.

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August 13, 2022, 03:55:39 PM
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Greed is prohibited in the Bible (1 Timothy 6:10) not gambling.  But excessive gambling activity may lead us to sin. Please take note of the word excessive, and may lead.  
Yes, gambling is leading everybody to become greedy so it lies down to sin. It creates emotion and that's why it is being generalized by everyone that it's a sin.
Well, it's still an activity that each individual has the power to conquer its negative effect or allow it to control us which is making the others to have a bad ending.
But at the end - everyone quits alcohol - they leave gambling and they leave adultery as well.
There is no goods attached to it.
Not everyone has a success story in quitting and these vices are always said to be attached together but it all depends on the person who is doing these.

Moderation you are right is important but than again there is no control over one's emotion while being into it. so better safe than sorry
That's why not everyone will end up good with all of their overcoming stories. It's being done by many but not all of them are quitting for real and even in the past, the same situations and experiences from different people.

Every gambler has their own story how they fight their addiction and I am agree with blockman that not all gamblers story ends up with a good quit and did not play again. But in reality As I observe I think  out of three gamblers want to quit but only 1 got his will and leave the gambling world . The remaining 2 are also different story 1 of those are  cannot control himself and did not stop gambling. But the remaining 1 he can control himself  but he will gamble if he had an extra money.

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August 13, 2022, 05:41:33 PM
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Every gambler has their own story how they fight their addiction and I am agree with blockman that not all gamblers story ends up with a good quit and did not play again. But in reality As I observe I think  out of three gamblers want to quit but only 1 got his will and leave the gambling world . The remaining 2 are also different story 1 of those are  cannot control himself and did not stop gambling. But the remaining 1 he can control himself  but he will gamble if he had an extra money.
Sometimes it's higher than that and only a few really are able to quit. Each has circumstances to face with and we can't help from that situation because they have to deal it on their own.
The control that we have varies on how we're too emotional with the situation and it's not helping us if we're too dependent on our emotions.

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August 13, 2022, 07:17:35 PM
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Actually, in religion, gambling, alcohol and adultery are prohibited. <...>

Actually, it depends on which religion you are talking about. As you mentioned alcohol, I assume you are referring to Islam. There are many other religions in the world and not all religions follow the same rules. For example, I am a Christian and I follow the rules of the Bible, not the rules of the Quran.

But the Bible also doesn't recommend drinking alcohol, right?
<...>

Well, not really, but... One of the first miracles of Jesus of Nazareth was the turning of water into wine at the wedding in Cana. So... draw your own conclusion.   Wink

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