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September 08, 2022, 06:08:14 AM
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Since posts are written in this topic about the historical aspects of gambling, I think it is worth noting that modern generations of players, those who know how to have a fairly high standard of living, greed is not so relevant. And there are big differences between modern players and, for example, players in the Middle Ages. It seems to me that 4-5 centuries ago, greed was generally in the first place among the players. And all of them did not enjoy the game, as many now, but simply wanted to snatch more money. Also because a person in the Middle Ages was not at all smart, believed in all sorts of miracles and played only with a primitive thought,
to earn more. What do you think - am I right?
It is very likely that back then the average person simply did not understood the true nature of gambling and how it was impossible to win, as I doubt the math was advanced enough to prove this was the case, so back then it is likely that players actually believed there was a way to beat the games and as such their greed was the main factor that kept them gambling.

But now the only thing a person needs to do to know the truth is to make a quick search and he will get countless websites explaining why gambling is not a profitable activity, so with this information they can change their approach and only gamble to obtain some entertainment instead.
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September 08, 2022, 06:26:09 AM
 #422

Since posts are written in this topic about the historical aspects of gambling, I think it is worth noting that modern generations of players, those who know how to have a fairly high standard of living, greed is not so relevant. And there are big differences between modern players and, for example, players in the Middle Ages. It seems to me that 4-5 centuries ago, greed was generally in the first place among the players. And all of them did not enjoy the game, as many now, but simply wanted to snatch more money. Also because a person in the Middle Ages was not at all smart, believed in all sorts of miracles and played only with a primitive thought,
to earn more. What do you think - am I right?
It is very likely that back then the average person simply did not understood the true nature of gambling and how it was impossible to win, as I doubt the math was advanced enough to prove this was the case, so back then it is likely that players actually believed there was a way to beat the games and as such their greed was the main factor that kept them gambling.

But now the only thing a person needs to do to know the truth is to make a quick search and he will get countless websites explaining why gambling is not a profitable activity, so with this information they can change their approach and only gamble to obtain some entertainment instead.
People just know that gambling can bring them big money, which triggers them to keep playing and trying to make money. If they don't know or realize that it is wrong, they will not stop, even if they have no money. We are lucky to live in the modern era because we can find many things we need, especially for gambling information. It can provide input so that we don't play gambling too often, making us lose a lot of money. We should think of gambling as a place to play various games and have fun for a while and while we have had enough playing, it is time for us to stop. There are consequences if we continue to gamble but many people don't realize it.

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September 08, 2022, 06:50:02 AM
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Theirs nothing like gain in gambling, what is actually happening in the gamblling is grace to succeed, talking of greediness is happening directly in gambling, because i know that some gambling like casino and poker game their is nothing like greedy because as a gambler you have your own target of getting what you want in gambling.
Which direction are you taking it? No gain, no greed in gambling? You are taking it far and not correct as you contradict yourself as well. Try to know the difference between grace and luck, we don't have grace in gambling, we have luck, and grace does not leave you easily, luck does, it can appear and disappear at any time. That is why we possess grace, but luck is temporary. Aside from that, you might be greedy as a gambler, and being greedy does not mean the gambler does not have initial plans and targets, it is when the gambler does not care about them by being emotional while gambling.

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September 08, 2022, 02:39:12 PM
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Theirs nothing like gain in gambling, what is actually happening in the gamblling is grace to succeed, talking of greediness is happening directly in gambling, because i know that some gambling like casino and poker game their is nothing like greedy because as a gambler you have your own target of getting what you want in gambling.
Which direction are you taking it? No gain, no greed in gambling? You are taking it far and not correct as you contradict yourself as well. Try to know the difference between grace and luck, we don't have grace in gambling, we have luck, and grace does not leave you easily, luck does, it can appear and disappear at any time. That is why we possess grace, but luck is temporary. Aside from that, you might be greedy as a gambler, and being greedy does not mean the gambler does not have initial plans and targets, it is when the gambler does not care about them by being emotional while gambling.

I am Agree with you mate, luck is temporary and not forever as a gambler we all know that in the world of gambling all games are based on your lucky days then you will win. But we must remember that if we don't have our luck in our side for sure we will loss and greediness shall be follow and if once a gambler will addicted to much then there's a time that they can not control their self and always thinking that I'll bet for this in order to get my losses back.

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September 08, 2022, 08:53:39 PM
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I am Agree with you mate, luck is temporary and not forever as a gambler we all know that in the world of gambling all games are based on your lucky days then you will win. But we must remember that if we don't have our luck in our side for sure we will loss and greediness shall be follow and if once a gambler will addicted to much then there's a time that they can not control their self and always thinking that I'll bet for this in order to get my losses back.
Is there anything like luck? If yes, it is not once. One can be lucky as as often as you can think. But gambling does not depend on only luck, there is some element of skills in football and that is why the most experienced are always the  ones winning big.

Well. Having said that - there are hardly any benefit of gambling.
Although it brings in excitement for the time being, but there is nothing good you can get in the longer run.
So indulge yourself in productive activities, rather than wasting time in unhealthy activities.
Gambling is not something you should discredit and talk down on. Gambling could be what you described above if it is done in addiction. But in moderation, gambling is entertainment and could make someone super rich.

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September 08, 2022, 10:33:31 PM
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I am Agree with you mate, luck is temporary and not forever as a gambler we all know that in the world of gambling all games are based on your lucky days then you will win. But we must remember that if we don't have our luck in our side for sure we will loss and greediness shall be follow and if once a gambler will addicted to much then there's a time that they can not control their self and always thinking that I'll bet for this in order to get my losses back.
Well. Having said that - there are hardly any benefit of gambling.
Although it brings in excitement for the time being, but there is nothing good you can get in the longer run.
So indulge yourself in productive activities, rather than wasting time in unhealthy activities.

Gambling is good if you have a mindset that you will gamble because of entertainment and not for profit or a source of income. Because when time goes by, there are only few moment that we will win because gambling is unpredictable even if how long you are in that particular game but there's a time that you will loss not once, not twice but many times. So it's better to have a good mindset about gambling in order to prevent losses.

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September 08, 2022, 11:52:20 PM
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What is the difference between greediness and risk,
In this concept which has to do with gambling, one could be said to be "greedy" if he has a certain amount of money and yet not satisfied with the little or huge which he has, i.e always wanting to have that which belongs to others, and one can also be said to take "risk" when he/she tends to gamble all he has with the sole aim of doubling it, which he could either lose or gain
Theirs nothing like gain in gambling, what is actually happening in the gamblling is grace to succeed, talking of greediness is happening directly in gambling, because i know that some gambling like casino and poker game their is nothing like greedy because as a gambler you have your own target of getting what you want in gambling.

I am trying to make sense of what you said, but bottom line there is actually something like winning in gambling. You can ask the professional poker players that actually make their living, and sometimes a fortune, of playing the games for money. However, you have to choose your game wisely as most of the betting games are designed so that you will eventually loose.

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Which direction are you taking it? No gain, no greed in gambling? You are taking it far and not correct as you contradict yourself as well. Try to know the difference between grace and luck, we don't have grace in gambling, we have luck, and grace does not leave you easily, luck does, it can appear and disappear at any time. That is why we possess grace, but luck is temporary. Aside from that, you might be greedy as a gambler, and being greedy does not mean the gambler does not have initial plans and targets, it is when the gambler does not care about them by being emotional while gambling.
I am Agree with you mate, luck is temporary and not forever as a gambler we all know that in the world of gambling all games are based on your lucky days then you will win. But we must remember that if we don't have our luck in our side for sure we will loss and greediness shall be follow and if once a gambler will addicted to much then there's a time that they can not control their self and always thinking that I'll bet for this in order to get my losses back.
We have a luck as long as we are still alive. It can come out sometimes like in gambling and we can win something but luck doesn't last long so we must learn how to quit before it ends. When we step in then gambling arena we can do some warm up bets first only to tell if we have a luck that day or not but if there's none then we can choose to not play or just play only a small amount for fun.

Greediness can come not only when a gambler is losing but also when they are winning. This isn't a good trait to adopt so we should prevent this from happening because if not then it can lead to a more severe condition like being addicted.

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You can't associate poker players with gambling either. Those are two completely different things. Of course you need luck with poker but you don't just depend on luck and that's the big difference. I think that poker is also older than (online) gambling. I'm still curious when online poker became popular and when it came on the market and originated. You also don't hear many new poker sites appearing, while at casinos and bookmakers you see one bookmaker after another emerging and new to the business.

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You can't associate poker players with gambling either. Those are two completely different things. Of course you need luck with poker but you don't just depend on luck and that's the big difference. I think that poker is also older than (online) gambling. I'm still curious when online poker became popular and when it came on the market and originated. You also don't hear many new poker sites appearing, while at casinos and bookmakers you see one bookmaker after another emerging and new to the business.

How can we not associate poker with gambling?  Of course poker players are people (noun) while gambling is a kind of action (verb) where a person plays a game of chance.  But saying Poker can't be associated with gambling, I disagree with that.  According to the article[1]
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The short answer is yes – poker still falls under the category of gambling, despite its status as a game of skill. Consider the Merriam-Webster Dictionary definition of gambling:

Gambling – the practice or activity of betting; the practice of risking money or other stakes in a game or bet.

Indeed Poker is considered a skill-based game but before the skill is applied, the cards are presented in random order so it is played partially by luck then followed by skill due to the strategy but in most cases, no matter how good a player's strategy is, the result of the Poker games depends on the initial cards and the succeeding cards which is dependent on the random chance.  Not saying Poker games is also associated with bets and gambling.



[1] https://upswingpoker.com/is-poker-considered-gambling-debate-over/#:~:text=The%20short%20answer%20is%20yes,in%20a%20game%20or%20bet.
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I am Agree with you mate, luck is temporary and not forever as a gambler we all know that in the world of gambling all games are based on your lucky days then you will win. But we must remember that if we don't have our luck in our side for sure we will loss and greediness shall be follow and if once a gambler will addicted to much then there's a time that they can not control their self and always thinking that I'll bet for this in order to get my losses back.
Well. Having said that - there are hardly any benefit of gambling.
Although it brings in excitement for the time being, but there is nothing good you can get in the longer run.
So indulge yourself in productive activities, rather than wasting time in unhealthy activities.
If humans were some sort of computers you may have a point, after all a computer only takes decisions based on logic and nothing more, but a human is way more complex than that, it is true that over the long term there are not many benefits that you can get out of gambling, but people also need to focus on bringing joy to their lives by doing something that entertains them, and if you gamble and this gives you that entertainment then that is valuable by itself, so as long as you don't abuse of it then I do not see anything wrong with gambling once in a while.
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You can't associate poker players with gambling either. Those are two completely different things. Of course you need luck with poker but you don't just depend on luck and that's the big difference. I think that poker is also older than (online) gambling. I'm still curious when online poker became popular and when it came on the market and originated. You also don't hear many new poker sites appearing, while at casinos and bookmakers you see one bookmaker after another emerging and new to the business.

Wow. Your explanation is invalid. Of course we can associate poker players with gambling.
There are millions of poker players around the world that gamble on their game. While this can be true for other sports, it is a very specific fact about poker. Sure you can know how to play poker and still not gamble on it, but that's definitely not the case here. If you think about it, poker is mathematically just a different game of probability. You have a certain set of odds as to whether you will win or lose.

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We have a luck as long as we are still alive. It can come out sometimes like in gambling and we can win something but luck doesn't last long so we must learn how to quit before it ends.
I think you are missing something by saying, "We have luck as long as we are still alive," but you are right that it does not last long. Also, know that luck is just an expression when someone is being lucky, not that anyone possesses it whatsoever. It is just an expression to qualify the narrow escape or opportunity/chance that was visible in an event. In gambling, no reasonable gambler will ever think of luck, though they need it, they should rather think of a working vice and plan.

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September 10, 2022, 11:02:40 AM
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I am Agree with you mate, luck is temporary and not forever as a gambler we all know that in the world of gambling all games are based on your lucky days then you will win. But we must remember that if we don't have our luck in our side for sure we will loss and greediness shall be follow and if once a gambler will addicted to much then there's a time that they can not control their self and always thinking that I'll bet for this in order to get my losses back.
Well. Having said that - there are hardly any benefit of gambling.
Although it brings in excitement for the time being, but there is nothing good you can get in the longer run.
So indulge yourself in productive activities, rather than wasting time in unhealthy activities.
If humans were some sort of computers you may have a point, after all a computer only takes decisions based on logic and nothing more, but a human is way more complex than that, it is true that over the long term there are not many benefits that you can get out of gambling, but people also need to focus on bringing joy to their lives by doing something that entertains them, and if you gamble and this gives you that entertainment then that is valuable by itself, so as long as you don't abuse of it then I do not see anything wrong with gambling once in a while.
There is no obligation to gamble. A gambler is completely independent here. If the gambler is able to take gambling as the center of his entertainment then the gambler is successful there. As opposed to, if one is addicted to the opposite of entertainment, his failure will be constant.


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September 10, 2022, 11:38:35 AM
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We have a luck as long as we are still alive. It can come out sometimes like in gambling and we can win something but luck doesn't last long so we must learn how to quit before it ends.
I think you are missing something by saying, "We have luck as long as we are still alive," but you are right that it does not last long. Also, know that luck is just an expression when someone is being lucky, not that anyone possesses it whatsoever. It is just an expression to qualify the narrow escape or opportunity/chance that was visible in an event. In gambling, no reasonable gambler will ever think of luck, though they need it, they should rather think of a working vice and plan.

I guess not all the time we need to become dependent on luck because all of our actions will have the result but of course in gambling, it is your choice to play or to make a risk and it is good to make your self aware about the possible decisions you made like a limit of the designated amount you play and risk because not all day gambling gives a huge amount of winning to us.

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September 10, 2022, 02:00:38 PM
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We have a luck as long as we are still alive. It can come out sometimes like in gambling and we can win something but luck doesn't last long so we must learn how to quit before it ends.
I think you are missing something by saying, "We have luck as long as we are still alive," but you are right that it does not last long. Also, know that luck is just an expression when someone is being lucky, not that anyone possesses it whatsoever. It is just an expression to qualify the narrow escape or opportunity/chance that was visible in an event. In gambling, no reasonable gambler will ever think of luck, though they need it, they should rather think of a working vice and plan.

I guess not all the time we need to become dependent on luck because all of our actions will have the result but of course in gambling, it is your choice to play or to make a risk and it is good to make yourself aware about the possible decisions you made like a limit of the designated amount you play and risk because not all day gambling gives a huge amount of winning to us.

Yes you are right that mate like you said not all the time we are lucky enough to earn every single bet because in the world of gambling we can not predict the outcome so we need to control and discipline ourselves. Because the more we bet big amounts then the more we loss so if we bet a small amount then expect that our loss is small too. And if we have our luck then for sure big amounts of winning we've earn.

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September 10, 2022, 05:32:47 PM
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True! Gambling is meant/designed to be a mean of entertainment. People spend money on gambling to have fun with a small chance to get back their money or even make a profit which adds more fun.
If you feel unconftorbale when you gamble (ex. anxiety, stress, remorse...) then you are in it for the wrong reason like thinking it's a fast way to make money or because you are gambling more than you can afford to lose. In both cases, you should stop right away.
That's right. When gambling originated, gambling was usually done at social or gathering events where there was a large gathering of people. The avid crowd then enjoyed the gambling only from a position of their entertainment. But nowadays many people start thinking about it as a source of income and have already faced many losses.

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We have a luck as long as we are still alive. It can come out sometimes like in gambling and we can win something but luck doesn't last long so we must learn how to quit before it ends.
I think you are missing something by saying, "We have luck as long as we are still alive," but you are right that it does not last long. Also, know that luck is just an expression when someone is being lucky, not that anyone possesses it whatsoever. It is just an expression to qualify the narrow escape or opportunity/chance that was visible in an event. In gambling, no reasonable gambler will ever think of luck, though they need it, they should rather think of a working vice and plan.
Talking about when we have to stop before the luck ends will not be easy and will tempt us to continue playing because we think that luck is still on our side so we have to use it to play. But no one knows when the luck will end and when we lose in one round, we still think this is just a coincidence and we will definitely win the next round. But when we lose again, it also doesn't make us stop and instead continues to play, making us lose the winning money we got earlier.

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September 11, 2022, 08:12:05 AM
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True! Gambling is meant/designed to be a mean of entertainment. People spend money on gambling to have fun with a small chance to get back their money or even make a profit which adds more fun.
If you feel unconftorbale when you gamble (ex. anxiety, stress, remorse...) then you are in it for the wrong reason like thinking it's a fast way to make money or because you are gambling more than you can afford to lose. In both cases, you should stop right away.

People are used to changing the original purpose of things, and when those purposes are changed, they are changed for life, nobody returns to the original purpose. Before I talk about the gambling, let us take bitcoin for instance, the original idea of satoshi is that bitcoin is a currency that would be used without a central authority, based on peer to peer. But today, everyone one is buying and holding bitcoin and some buy and lose fiat and there is now a rule to invest according to what you can comfortably lose.

This is same for gambling, in the early time it was for entertainment, but today it has changed to money trap or investment. You will see people giving themselves target that they will make such amount of money or hit a jack pot before a certain month ends. History changes.

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September 11, 2022, 01:47:06 PM
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Yes you are right that mate like you said not all the time we are lucky enough to earn every single bet because in the world of gambling we can not predict the outcome so we need to control and discipline ourselves. Because the more we bet big amounts then the more we loss so if we bet a small amount then expect that our loss is small too. And if we have our luck then for sure big amounts of winning we've earn.
The expectations of a gambler in any gamble it plays is to make profit by wining a game because it's something that you think of, before making your bet. I believe that gambling is something you know from your mindset that either you win or lose and some people who is addicted to gambling don't barley know their limit in gambling playing. But sometimes i blame who don't map a particular amount of money for gambling.

In my opinion. Most of the players that got addicted on gambling are those who experienced huge win and lose everything after continuing gambling because they are the person who will have a feelings to eagerly chase there loss including there supposed to be profit. I don’t think that user that simply didn’t manage there bankroll become addicted without experiencing the joy of winning huge amount because you will not encouraged to play more if you didn’t know the feeling of winning huge amount.

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