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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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May 02, 2023, 11:25:50 AM
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I must say that the Manchester City is the stronger team. They have consistently performed well in recent years, with a strong squad and a top-notch coach in Pep Guardiola. However, the Real Madrid is also a top team, with a long history of success and a talented roster of players.
however Real Madrid has a very long experience in UCL, I think it will be a good challenge..

Talking about history we know Real Madrid got perfect experience in the Champions League they are usually the first hope for the winning trophy also their coach Ancelotti is a coach who understands this tournament very well and he got enough experience.
But from what we saw in the recent games of both teams, I guess Manchester City got more chance to win this game, especially after the performance of this team in the last few weeks.

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May 02, 2023, 12:00:37 PM
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Considering the defeats of Real Madrid in the league, we can talk about Manchester City dominating the match in England. If they dominate the match, they can easily pass the round with a solid defensive game in Spain. Real gave great danger signals in Girona match in the defending zone. If they repeat the same mistakes in the Manchester City game, they can concede 4 more goals.

It's as clear as day light that Man City will dominate. I have never watched a game that Man City did not dominate, whether they win, lose or draw.
The last semi final clash between Man City and Madrid was dominated by Man City, both legs. Madrid is good at hanging back a bit and hit on the counter attack. It's what they do, it's what has worked for them for years. They're so good at it. They don't have to play well to win. Pep's team on the other hand have to play well before they win. If they play badly they they will lose. Madrid can win playing badly and also win while playing well.
Man City have got to be very careful at the back, they have to be very solid defensively if they want to win Madrid. There has to be no margin for errors. Bury the chances you get against Madrid if not they will hurt you.

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May 02, 2023, 12:03:22 PM
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Not only Haaland was key for Manchester City to win the match but also Kevin DeBruyne, his assist was enough to make Manchester City a productive team in the English Premier League and in the Champions League, it was proven that against Fulham yesterday match Kevin did not play due to injury and they could only score two goals.
So Madrid needs to take care of these 2 pairs right? at least Kevin DeBuyne and Haaland are a couple who always switch positions back and forth. Both can exchange roles as assists and can be the final executor. So, if the 2 moves of these 2 players can be controlled, it is possible that Grealish and the others will find it even more difficult to move. Seeing Man City's match against Arsenal, where it was clear that Arteta monotonous strategy was clear, of course Pep Guardiola manipulated Arsenal defense through Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne.

City were also behind Arsenal for a long time, but in the end they were able to turn things around. Real Madrid had something similar, but they could not compete with Barcelona because they conceded a lot and lost points often. I agree that City are looking better now and they probably in a good mood, as they managed to come out on top in the Premier League, but this Champions League is a different tournament that a team like Real always approaches with a lot of responsibility. City look stronger, but Real Madrid won't give up victory from the Champions League semi-final so easily.
This is what needs to be seen from the objectivity of the two teams. I'm leaning towards Real Madrid but if indeed this time Man City are able to excel it will certainly be a tremendous success. Because while in the UCL, Man City always failed Madrid. Apart from that one thing we must remember is not to give up before starting and for Madrid last season's title holder will try all the abilities he has and his experience in the UCL. Maybe the Man City trend has risen to the surface, but Madrid can secretly wipe out the hopes of its opponents.

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May 02, 2023, 12:52:16 PM
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Every Champions League match was very important for Madrid. Real Madrid has dominated the Champions League matches since the beginning of the season. And so we have seen better performances from Real Madrid in almost every Champions League match.
Manchester City is a strong opponent. And so it won't be easy for Madrid to beat City. I would say both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning. The team that will be able to play well on the field will qualify for the finals. The Madrid team is experienced in the Champions League platform. Despite City being strong, against Ancelotti's match strategy, Manchester City will find it very difficult to win.
There are always different views on the semi-finals between Real Madrid vs Man City, the two clubs are equally great, they just have different experiences, while what we know is that Man City, under the tutelage of Pep Guardiola, has been able to win various titles for several years, only one that has not been achieved, namely the Champions League.

Their chances are still the same advancing to the final but we saw the history of Real Madrid which impresses everyone but Manchester City will still continue to try against these odds their squad is ready with a very reliable squad especially Haaland who has always been talked about will be the destroyer of Real Madrid later, but it's still very difficult to predict, we always see Madrid so strong at the end.

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May 02, 2023, 12:57:32 PM
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Talking about history we know Real Madrid got perfect experience in the Champions League they are usually the first hope for the winning trophy also their coach Ancelotti is a coach who understands this tournament very well and he got enough experience.
But from what we saw in the recent games of both teams, I guess Manchester City got more chance to win this game, especially after the performance of this team in the last few weeks.
You know, the Champions League is a tournament in which experience plays a very important role. I remember quite recently, here almost everyone said that Milan had no chance against such a Napoli, but the result of this confrontation was very unexpected.

I don't want to say that something like that will happen here, because Guardiola is also a very experienced coach and in this tournament he went very far with different teams, so in this case it is not worth talking about the advantage in experience.

If we evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of the teams, then it seems to me that Real Madrid's defense now looks like their weak link, and a team like City should take advantage of this. And by the way, Benzema is not in the best shape right now, so he may not be the savior for Real Madrid, as he was last time.
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May 02, 2023, 01:39:34 PM
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Talking about history we know Real Madrid got perfect experience in the Champions League they are usually the first hope for the winning trophy also their coach Ancelotti is a coach who understands this tournament very well and he got enough experience.
But from what we saw in the recent games of both teams, I guess Manchester City got more chance to win this game, especially after the performance of this team in the last few weeks.
The chance was coming from haaland that becomes the main striker for manchester city. I don't even think if people gonna favoring manchester city if there was no haaland in the club. He was beast striker, and that's fact, but real madrid is almost a club with most of UCL trophies. This is also the fact.
It's pretty hard to determine which club that will be dominating the match soon. The first leg gonna happen in santiago bernabeu which will give real madrid more advantage over manchester city. Bookies are also putting more odds compared with city which means bookies picking city as a candidate that will win the first leg. I have opposite opinion regarding it as i think that real madrid will able to play fully offensive against manchester city.
Real madrid has so many experiences back. The defenders like rudiger are also having so many experiences in UCL. He has been winning UCL with chelsea too. Putting madrid as nonfavored club might be a wrong decision.

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May 02, 2023, 01:51:17 PM
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Real madrid has so many experiences back. The defenders like rudiger are also having so many experiences in UCL. He has been winning UCL with chelsea too. Putting madrid as nonfavored club might be a wrong decision.

It's hard to guess the final result later. They are just as strong, they have excellent stats. Although I support Real Madrid, I also have doubts. The reason is because Man City were very strong today. They have an incredible Haaland. Pep and Man City have tried to win the UCL but they have always failed. Today they had a great chance of winning and getting to the final. I feel very confident that one of the winners of this match will be the UCL champion this season.

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May 02, 2023, 02:15:14 PM
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It's hard to guess the final result later. They are just as strong, they have excellent stats. Although I support Real Madrid, I also have doubts. The reason is because Man City were very strong today. They have an incredible Haaland. Pep and Man City have tried to win the UCL but they have always failed. Today they had a great chance of winning and getting to the final. I feel very confident that one of the winners of this match will be the UCL champion this season.
It is very hard to predict a winner because I really believe that the winner will be decided by very slim difference between two clubs. Just like their matches in the past season, until very last minutes of 90 minutes, nobody thought Real Madrid could bring Manchester City to extra halfs. By some last magic minutes, Real Madrid did it, brought the opponent to extra halfs and won it after all in surprise as well as disappointment of Manchester City.

I am thinking of a similar scenario in this season as they are both very strong and not much different in quality. Their squads are full of star players who can have fantastic moments to decide final result.

I don't want to say that something like that will happen here, because Guardiola is also a very experienced coach and in this tournament he went very far with different teams, so in this case it is not worth talking about the advantage in experience.
Pep Guardiola is a smart coach but he has never won any Champions League after his departure from Barcelona. He still needs to prove to everyone that he can win Champions League with other clubs. So far he failed from Bayern Munich to Manchester City, which is a serious failure for his career but he can change it, maybe in this season. Again, he and Manchester City are very closely to Champions League final.
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Manchester City, in the history of Champions League games, have only played in the final once and failed to win. That time, everyone was just as sure of winning, but that opinion proved to be wrong. The same situation is now being repeated, but only in the semi-finals. Speaking of the squads, Real Madrid, like Manchester City, are doing well with top class players. Of course I can't be sure Real Madrid will win, but these matches will be even.

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Manchester City, in the history of Champions League games, have only played in the final once and failed to win. That time, everyone was just as sure of winning, but that opinion proved to be wrong. The same situation is now being repeated, but only in the semi-finals. Speaking of the squads, Real Madrid, like Manchester City, are doing well with top class players. Of course I can't be sure Real Madrid will win, but these matches will be even.
So from that the second meeting was an event for Manchester City's revenge on Madrid, considering the two met last season to be precise in the CL semifinals as well and Manchester City failed because of Madrid, I think Guardiola will put pressure on his team to be able to play as much as possible to beat Madrid in the first leg CL semi-finals later. I believe Manchester City's victory in front of their eyes this season belongs to them and will not give Madrid another chance to win the UCL this season.

I think with the current players and formations Manchester City can get a treble winner, even though Madrid supporters say it's difficult but I believe Guardiola has prepared a strategy to beat Madrid in the first leg match, I bet on Manchester City winning  Wink

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Real madrid has so many experiences back. The defenders like rudiger are also having so many experiences in UCL. He has been winning UCL with chelsea too. Putting madrid as nonfavored club might be a wrong decision.

It's hard to guess the final result later. They are just as strong, they have excellent stats. Although I support Real Madrid, I also have doubts. The reason is because Man City were very strong today. They have an incredible Haaland. Pep and Man City have tried to win the UCL but they have always failed. Today they had a great chance of winning and getting to the final. I feel very confident that one of the winners of this match will be the UCL champion this season.

Yes, basically Real Madrid has a winning mentality and experience which is certainly no doubt related to the Champions League. However, it's not wrong if at one point Real Madrid might not be fully favored because after all, at this moment it seems that Real Madrid will not have an easy way to win the Champions League title again.

Because Manchester City continues to build a better team, at least at this moment Manchester City looks to have a better chance of winning the Champions League title. But yes, even though I also favor Manchester City, but I also don't consider Real Madrid to be weak, because in the Champions League, of course, Real Madrid always has its own chance to win the Champions League title.

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Real madrid has so many experiences back. The defenders like rudiger are also having so many experiences in UCL. He has been winning UCL with chelsea too. Putting madrid as nonfavored club might be a wrong decision.

It's hard to guess the final result later. They are just as strong, they have excellent stats. Although I support Real Madrid, I also have doubts. The reason is because Man City were very strong today. They have an incredible Haaland. Pep and Man City have tried to win the UCL but they have always failed. Today they had a great chance of winning and getting to the final. I feel very confident that one of the winners of this match will be the UCL champion this season.
yes, I also think so because in the other semifinal, Inter Milan vs AC Milan, where the two teams, if you look at the performance and quality this season, are still below Real Madrid or Manchester City, so it is very likely that anyone who will qualify for the final between Man City or Real Madrid is very likely It is very likely that they will win the UCL this season.

and in terms of the performance of Real Madrid and also Man City this season there is indeed a slight difference, Man City is much stronger and consistent throughout the season but Real Madrid is still superior mentally and confidently on the UCL stage so that the match between the two teams is much more fierce, Man City is indeed very favorite in this match but not many dare to bet big for Man City because Real Madrid often makes surprises in important matches.
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The performance of real madrid in UCL is far different compared in the league. it's caused by ancelotti is still trying to keep the chance to win UCL trophy become as big as possible. UCL trophy is far important for real madrid compared with the domestic league. It's caused by winning UCL will make the club to get UCL spot for next season. Real madrid was not also using full squads in the domestic league. It can be seen from the line up against girona.

Real madrid used full squads against almeria while almeria was using fully defensive strategy. Benzema was maing hatrick against almeria which is good.
It is not possible to use the performance in the domestic league as a good parameter to determine the result in UCL. I just try to understand if ancelotti knows everything what we didn't know.
I understand that UCL may give a lot more money and Real Madrid is a team that cares about continental cups more than they care about the league, that is understandable, they were even head of the super league they were trying to build, that made sense to a point because they really care about that. So all in all I believe that Real can care about the UCL result more than domestic league, that part is understandable.

However, we need to also remember that losing the league is one thing, but if they become third that would be terrible for them, it's a result they can't really accept. They need to be either first or second, anything else is a fail, and if they become third AND lose UCL title as well, that's a terrible season without a doubt and it could potentially happen.
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Manchester City are still the favourite for the Champions League title by a big odd margin. It isn't surprising to see at all as it has been the same since beginning of the first games here. They are going to need to get past technically the biggest obstacle among the teams remaining in the tournament. Real Madrid are literally the king around here as you know.

Manchester City were strong in the previous season as well maybe but now there is still a significant level of difference. Haaland's impact is big and he will be their best card against Real Madrid to have their revenge.
What Man City must do in the semi-final match later in order to win against Real Madrid is by having a high level of confidence and also they cannot be careless until the final whistle sounds. because last season a tragedy occurred for Man city in the last minute. which robbed them of any hope of barely qualifying for the finals. Man City must learn from defeat last season. but I also feel that Man City's performance this season is really much better than last season. But last season Real Madrid also struggled against Man City. so I think even this time Real Madrid will struggle.

Indeed, I remember that moment. It was a catastrophe for Manchester City while they were so close to eliminating the most dominant team of the Champions League. But now it must be the time to eliminate their opponent with a satisfying level of performance. Real Madrid are still doing pretty good here. Their performance against some other Premier League clubs like Chelsea and Liverpool was really amazing.

Manchester City are a way different team than those two maybe but they will also need to be very aware of this big threat. Ancelotti's team would like to do their best to win a big title this season as well after losing their chance for the La Liga title.
Of course, Manchester City does not want the tragedy that happened last season to happen again. Man city definitely won't let their guard down this time even though it's up to the last second in the match. Even after seeing Man City beat Arsenal with a score of 4-1 in the Premier League, it has become proof that Man City is really more serious right now and doesn't take all the opponents they face lightly.

Real Madrid currently also has high motivation to win another title in the Champions League. because statistically at this time Real Madrid is no longer possible to win the title in Laliga. so they will focus their team for the Champions League. although I think Real Madrid did intend to focus on the Champions League from the start of the season.

But even though Real Madrid failed to win the title in Laliga. at least I'm pretty sure Real Madrid will win the trophy in the Copa Del rey. Although Real Madrid certainly will not be satisfied with just this trophy. So that in the Champions League they will definitely do something to get back the Champion's league trophy. Carlo Ancelotti is a coach who can always build the confidence of Real Madrid players very well. And actually Carlo Ancelotti is also a coach who tends to use almost the same strategy in every game. it is indeed a little risky because the opponent may have analyzed and practiced to break Real Madrid's strategy. but in reality this makes the Real Madrid players always play comfortably in every match. and precisely this allows the Real Madrid players to play more optimally.

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May 02, 2023, 04:38:14 PM
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Every Champions League match was very important for Madrid. Real Madrid has dominated the Champions League matches since the beginning of the season. And so we have seen better performances from Real Madrid in almost every Champions League match.
Manchester City is a strong opponent. And so it won't be easy for Madrid to beat City. I would say both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning. The team that will be able to play well on the field will qualify for the finals. The Madrid team is experienced in the Champions League platform. Despite City being strong, against Ancelotti's match strategy, Manchester City will find it very difficult to win.
There are always different views on the semi-finals between Real Madrid vs Man City, the two clubs are equally great, they just have different experiences, while what we know is that Man City, under the tutelage of Pep Guardiola, has been able to win various titles for several years, only one that has not been achieved, namely the Champions League.
Their chances are still the same advancing to the final but we saw the history of Real Madrid which impresses everyone but Manchester City will still continue to try against these odds their squad is ready with a very reliable squad especially Haaland who has always been talked about will be the destroyer of Real Madrid later, but it's still very difficult to predict, we always see Madrid so strong at the end.

Manchester City has been favorites for the Champions League title every season. But after qualifying for the semi-final or final, they lost form and failed to win the title. Despite having a strong squad, they could not win the Champions League title. Manchester City is in great form this season as well. The squad is very strong and they are in good form. Even then, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they fail to win the title. Because Real Madrid's squad is also very experienced and strong. However, Luka Modric is likely to be absent from the squad. Madrid's midfield may be a bit weak in this. If the midfield doesn't perform well, I think Madrid's overall performance will be a bit slow.

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May 02, 2023, 05:23:39 PM
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The performance of real madrid in UCL is far different compared in the league. it's caused by ancelotti is still trying to keep the chance to win UCL trophy become as big as possible. UCL trophy is far important for real madrid compared with the domestic league. It's caused by winning UCL will make the club to get UCL spot for next season. Real madrid was not also using full squads in the domestic league. It can be seen from the line up against girona.

Real madrid used full squads against almeria while almeria was using fully defensive strategy. Benzema was maing hatrick against almeria which is good.
It is not possible to use the performance in the domestic league as a good parameter to determine the result in UCL. I just try to understand if ancelotti knows everything what we didn't know.
I understand that UCL may give a lot more money and Real Madrid is a team that cares about continental cups more than they care about the league, that is understandable, they were even head of the super league they were trying to build, that made sense to a point because they really care about that. So all in all I believe that Real can care about the UCL result more than domestic league, that part is understandable.

However, we need to also remember that losing the league is one thing, but if they become third that would be terrible for them, it's a result they can't really accept. They need to be either first or second, anything else is a fail, and if they become third AND lose UCL title as well, that's a terrible season without a doubt and it could potentially happen.
The Real Madrid is a team that is held to a completely different standard than other teams, because as we know they are the ones that have won the champions league the most times and right now they are the defending champions, so their fans are very used to see them having a great deal of success and if they happen to fail then there is no doubt that the fans will begin to ask questions about the continuity of the coach and some players, as they are not going to tolerate such failure.
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Every Champions League match was very important for Madrid. Real Madrid has dominated the Champions League matches since the beginning of the season. And so we have seen better performances from Real Madrid in almost every Champions League match.
Manchester City is a strong opponent. And so it won't be easy for Madrid to beat City. I would say both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning. The team that will be able to play well on the field will qualify for the finals. The Madrid team is experienced in the Champions League platform. Despite City being strong, against Ancelotti's match strategy, Manchester City will find it very difficult to win.
There are always different views on the semi-finals between Real Madrid vs Man City, the two clubs are equally great, they just have different experiences, while what we know is that Man City, under the tutelage of Pep Guardiola, has been able to win various titles for several years, only one that has not been achieved, namely the Champions League.
Their chances are still the same advancing to the final but we saw the history of Real Madrid which impresses everyone but Manchester City will still continue to try against these odds their squad is ready with a very reliable squad especially Haaland who has always been talked about will be the destroyer of Real Madrid later, but it's still very difficult to predict, we always see Madrid so strong at the end.

Manchester City has been favorites for the Champions League title every season. But after qualifying for the semi-final or final, they lost form and failed to win the title. Despite having a strong squad, they could not win the Champions League title. Manchester City is in great form this season as well. The squad is very strong and they are in good form. Even then, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they fail to win the title. Because Real Madrid's squad is also very experienced and strong. However, Luka Modric is likely to be absent from the squad. Madrid's midfield may be a bit weak in this. If the midfield doesn't perform well, I think Madrid's overall performance will be a bit slow.
Being in semifinals is big even for Man City. But in semifinals it's not only about how good you are. There is always history team has and all 3teams left a lot of it. I think Real Madrid will be favorite in the game.
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There are always different views on the semi-finals between Real Madrid vs Man City, the two clubs are equally great, they just have different experiences, while what we know is that Man City, under the tutelage of Pep Guardiola, has been able to win various titles for several years, only one that has not been achieved, namely the Champions League.

The two clubs have a huge fan base the anticipation for the game is extraordinarily high, one thing about manchester city is that they have good football coordination and very impressive strategies, talk about the attacks and the defense they just know how to utilize what they have, if it's about players I think manchester city is at advantage.

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Their chances are still the same in advancing to the final but we saw the history of Real Madrid which impresses everyone but Manchester City will still continue to try against these odds their squad is ready with a very reliable squad especially Haaland who has always been talked about will be the destroyer of Real Madrid later, but it's still very difficult to predict, we always see Madrid so strong at the end.

Predicting this match is difficult but am very certain of manchester city since they are currently in good form there is a high tendency that manchester city will win, have been having that feeling ever since the match have been fixed.

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May 02, 2023, 05:50:42 PM
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Manchester City, in the history of Champions League games, have only played in the final once and failed to win. That time, everyone was just as sure of winning, but that opinion proved to be wrong. The same situation is now being repeated, but only in the semi-finals. Speaking of the squads, Real Madrid, like Manchester City, are doing well with top class players. Of course I can't be sure Real Madrid will win, but these matches will be even.

At that time maybe Manchester City underestimated Chelsea a little with the coach at that time being Tuchel, so Manchester City failed to win in the Champions League final and yes, at that time Manchester City was the favorite team. But in this moment it is about the semi-finals and also, basically these two teams or Real Madrid and Manchester City at this moment are considered to be of equal quality.

Therefore, with views and/or quality assessments that are at least not much different, it is very possible that Manchester City can play with better focus than before. Thus, of course, Manchester City will still have the chance to qualify for the finals and maybe even win the Champions League title this season, because this season seems to be theirs, be it Pep Guardiola, Halaand and of course Manchester City as a whole.

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Real Madrid may not be in the best phase at the moment, at least if you look at the league in Spain. Maybe that's just not a useful indicator since they've lost the title there for a few weeks and they can basically do what they want every week. Benzema has much more experience than Haaland. I wonder how good Haaland will be against Real Madrid, that is a match in which he will really be tested by the defense of Real Madrid. City's defense will also have their hands full with Benzema, who is usually very difficult to defend. You would say that City is the favourite, but I have my doubts about that. Many old football players and commentators say that Real Madrid is the favorite here.

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