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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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March 22, 2023, 09:14:02 AM
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Those of us who often follow the matches of the two, surely know the difference in quality between the two teams. Indeed, if ordinary people or people who rarely follow football, surely they only know about Milan still being as great as before. But then and now you can't be equated anymore because every team makes big changes, especially from players to club management. And as we know Napoli is now the only team that is very difficult to beat by other strong teams in the domestic league. So it's clear that with Milan's current poor performance, it's not strong enough for them to be able to beat Napoli in all competitions, including the Champions League. Seeing the odds, I'm sure I would be very happy to bet on a Napoli win and I have no doubts at all.
You should also consider the result from the previous matches in the domestic league as well. Ac milan is having horrible results against napoli this season. I doubt if ac milan will be qualified for the semifinal of UCL.
Going all in on napoli is a must for people who wanna try to take the safe zone for their money. It's likely that the majority of people in football will be taking napoli as the main choice for the next round of UCL. I thought that this match gonna be the easiest match to predict by us.

It's caused by in another match all of teams were facing opponents from a different league. That was making it a bit hard to predict compared with the match between napoli vs ac milan.
It's easy money for anyone who pick napoli. I have no faith in ac milan due to the poor performances in domestic league. Napoli shall able to beat ac milan easily with huge scores.
Yes, if you refer to the domestic league, Ac Milan's performance has indeed slumped. And before playing the champions league quarterfinal match, they will also face off in Serie A. I think that match will be a "warm up" match for both teams. But I'm pretty sure Napoli will always be the favorites when facing the Rossoneri this season. The Partenopei will qualify easily for the semifinals.

Actually I also respect the Rossoneri a lot because of their glorious history in the Champions League, but when I see their performances now I become pessimistic.

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March 22, 2023, 09:51:08 AM
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Exactly AC Milan has the most valuable squad of players in Serie A (more than Inter) so in theory with its 27 players it has enough turnover to handle everything.
However the manager seems a little confused at the moment, in fact I see the confusion in all aspects of the team.

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March 22, 2023, 10:04:49 AM
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It's a shame AC Milan had to meet Napoli in this round. My previous hope was that Milan would meet a team outside of Italy to be more competitive. However, there are other things that make me doubt even though Italy managed to bring 3 clubs to the quarterfinals, because 2 of them are very inconsistent teams in Serie-A..
Yes, I also have the same thoughts about the Serie A team in the quarter -final Champions League. From the 3 teams that succeeded in representing Serie A now, only Napoli have a very good and consistent appearance, so if I have to choose then I will make Napoli more favorite than the other two teams, namely Inter Milan and AC Milan.

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March 22, 2023, 10:15:40 AM
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Yes, I also have the same thoughts about the Serie A team in the quarter -final Champions League. From the 3 teams that succeeded in representing Serie A now, only Napoli have a very good and consistent appearance, so if I have to choose then I will make Napoli more favorite than the other two teams, namely Inter Milan and AC Milan.
If you look at the appearance and performance that Napoli has shown in the Champions League and also its own domestic league, of course Napoli has a big chance to reach the Champions League final this season, but I don't know any other team that will go to the final. Because Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich look equally strong here in the Champions League, it makes it difficult for me to predict which of the three of them will qualify for the Champions League final this season.
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March 22, 2023, 10:21:00 AM
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Exactly AC Milan has the most valuable squad of players in Serie A (more than Inter) so in theory with its 27 players it has enough turnover to handle everything.
However the manager seems a little confused at the moment, in fact I see the confusion in all aspects of the team.

It's not just about having expensive players, we learned that from before when PSG failed the game against Bayern Munich even if they had a more valuable squad and better players but they had no plan during the game so they lost it against Bayern Munich even with the most powerful forwards. AC Milan got expensive players but still, Napoli got a better situation and better teamwork, and a better atmosphere which can give me much more chance against AC Milan.

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March 22, 2023, 10:32:35 AM
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First let's come to Real Madrid vs Chelsea match, Chelsea is one of the best team in English Premier League but Real Madrid will be ahead of Chelsea in Champions League. That means Real Madrid will qualify for the semi-finals between Real Madrid vs Chelsea.
The scenario is that Real Madrid have to win the first leg or maybe draw at Stamford Bridge and settle for a decisive home win in the second leg at the Santiago Bernabéu. If Real Madrid can do it, then I believe Real Madrid will qualify for the semi-finals without any problems.

Meanwhile I don't fully believe Chelsea is a relatively easy opponent for Real Madrid. Chelsea are not the favourites, but they are a team capable of destroying Real Madrid's mission in the Champions League this season. Of course This is worrying, but Real Madrid are the favourites.

Man City vs Bayan Munich In this match I will put Bayan Munich ahead of Manchester City.  Because they are very good at countering it.
I hope you are wrong, Manchester City is a good team to fall short in the quarter-finals.
At least that's what I think of Manchester City, but you are entitled to say whatever especially your opinion. Bayern Munich is good, but Manchester City are equal even though they have never won a title in history.

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March 22, 2023, 10:53:20 AM
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Let's calculate who can be champions or go to the semifinal champions league after we look at the odds.
The odds didn't represent which team that has become the most favorite clubs to win the competition. I guess that if in the football anything can happen. I remind you with the result between arsenal against sporting. I do believe millions of people in the world picked arsenal and arsenal was losing against sporting.

a strong club like ManCity, Munchen, Real, and Napoli could be able than another club. while Chelsea, Milan, Inter and Benfica is quite doubtful, Maybe because their performance in the local league is not good and raises doubts to bet Chelsea, inter or Milan.
As far as i know if chelsea must be getting an exception caused by this club sometime gives us surprise. I remind you of the match against man city in final of UCL 2020/2021. Chelsea must be included in the list of strong team as well.

but sometimes, we will get a surprise, especially a club which doesn't have mental champions like The city, and Napoli. Yes As we know, Madrid has 14 titles, Milan has 7 titles, Bayern has 6 titles, Inter has 3 titles, and Chelsea has 2 titles same as Benfica. while The City and Napoli are not even a champion yet. So that fact, many doubt it, and we certainly cannot ignore the facts and tradition even a club has a strong, superstar (Haaland and Osimhen), and a solid squad.
The good thing is some big clubs will be eliminated once napoli has the easiest way to go to the semi final. Im thinking about the possibility for napoli to win the competition for this season.

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March 22, 2023, 11:04:40 AM
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You should also consider the result from the previous matches in the domestic league as well. Ac milan is having horrible results against napoli this season. I doubt if ac milan will be qualified for the semifinal of UCL.

Milan is having a horrible run, and the point margin between them and Napoli tells a lot about them, but have you looked at their prior matches? The recent results do not bode well for Napoli, as they either win or lose to Milan; I hope this does not happen again in this league.

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Going all in on napoli is a must for people who wanna try to take the safe zone for their money. It's likely that the majority of people in football will be taking napoli as the main choice for the next round of UCL. I thought that this match gonna be the easiest match to predict by us.

Napoli has demonstrated that they have every chance of winning every match they have played since the group stage, but I have a doubt that Ac Milan will want to prove that they are stronger outside of their home League. I will rather place my bet on Napoli to win or draw, at least for safety.

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It's caused by in another match all of teams were facing opponents from a different league. That was making it a bit hard to predict compared with the match between napoli vs ac milan.
It's easy money for anyone who pick napoli. I have no faith in ac milan due to the poor performances in domestic league. Napoli shall able to beat ac milan easily with huge scores.

Ac Milan has a solid strong defense whenever they play against Napoli, and if they follow the same pattern, having plenty of goals will be offset by them, and even if Napoli wins, the goals won't be like the sprew we're used to seeing from other matches.

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March 22, 2023, 11:05:48 AM
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I don't think the same way as you do, Real Madrid lost the game against Barcelona in La Liga and this can be a reason to say they are not strong enough and there is some weakness in the tactic Carlo Ancelotti use or Real Madrid, he is an experienced coach but he lost the game against Xavi who is not experienced like him, while Potter didn't perform well and he is very much near to get fired from Chelsea that's why I think he should do his best to get a better result and save himself.
Barcelona especially xavi is very familiar with the playstyle of real madrid. Ancellotti was rarely doing some important rotations. He keeps using the same formation over and over. I would not be surprised to see that if real madrid was losing against barcelona last game.

The problem is barcelona is having so many young talented players while at the same time, real madrid is still using some old players like kroos and modric. Real madrid was accusing the referee was helping barcelona to win the el classico.
That reason is a common reason used by a team that was losing against its rival. I think that it will better if real madrid focused to get copa del rey and UCL rather than keep trying to find excuses when it was losing against barcelona. There is still another match to make revenge.

I hope that ancellotti will did some evaluation. The problem is now real madrid defenders are lazy as fuck. It can be seen from some chances that already gotten by barcelona in the last game of elclassico.
Well Ancelotti puts the best at the moment and if no one better than Modric, Benzema, Kroos and Vinicius, then it's the club's problem that he spent the transfer campaign that way. Ancelotti squeezes the maximum out of the squad that he has, most of the players are already old and nevertheless, in principle, Real Madrid can fight to the end if they want, but they can't do that in every match. The same way to beat seemingly outsiders is not easy and that's why sometimes such strange losses to 1-0 happen to Real.

Barcelona had a much better transfer campaign which resulted in a lot of young players who can keep up with the rapid pace of the game, playing both in La Liga and the Champions League, and then in the Europa League. Hence the result in the championship, but Real can still win the Champions League and then Ancelotti can also buy good players if he is lucky.

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March 22, 2023, 11:48:14 AM
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All the teams in the quarter-final round are very strong. There is no opportunity to think of any party as weak here. I think every team that qualified for the quarter-finals has the potential to qualify for the semi-final round.
They could beat their opponents in round of 16 with luckiness at some moments in two matches but to finally be eligible for quarter finals, they are all good and competitive enough. They have good experience and ability to play well in knock-out phase that is dangerous for opponents in quarter finals.

You're right, other than that the level of motivation to reach the semi-finals for each club will be anything but it could even be that we're going to see an unexpected club qualify. For example, Chelsea, which is still in doubt, also seems to be a little difficult to predict, so Real Madrid is really wary of Chelsea players.

There is another thing that has caught the attention, namely Manchester City vs Bayern Munich which are considered to have strong defenses against each other. Both Bayern Munich and Manchester city are quite balanced in their strengths and could possibly end in a penalty shoot-out.

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March 22, 2023, 11:54:27 AM
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Exactly AC Milan has the most valuable squad of players in Serie A (more than Inter) so in theory with its 27 players it has enough turnover to handle everything.
However the manager seems a little confused at the moment, in fact I see the confusion in all aspects of the team.
Maybe AC ​​Milan has a very good quality. but sometimes the composition of quality players does not automatically make a team superior. because a team is all about creating a solid and complementary teamwork strategy. sometimes too many star players in a club also creates competition problems within the team itself. and sometimes the composition of the players in a team looks simple but all the players can work together very solidly in the game so it will make a team better. an example is Naples. there are not many star players in Napoli. but the coach was able to unite all the players in the game into a solid team. it's about strategy, motivation and good cooperation in it.
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March 22, 2023, 12:39:49 PM
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It's a shame AC Milan had to meet Napoli in this round. My previous hope was that Milan would meet a team outside of Italy to be more competitive. However, there are other things that make me doubt even though Italy managed to bring 3 clubs to the quarterfinals, because 2 of them are very inconsistent teams in Serie-A..
I don't think Napoli will beat AC Milan in this round because, AC Milan players will not allow Napoli players to have that chance they had in the Italian league game to scored those goals that gave them victory in this game. If what all those 3 teams are performing in the Italian league competition can perform it in the UEFA champions league quarterfinal, I guess AC Milan and Inter will meet for final because the two coach will like to use all their strength and energy to beat their opponent to qualify for final.

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March 22, 2023, 01:03:29 PM
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Many people keep underrating Napoli that they cannot win the Champions League, the more you look down on Napoli the more the boys show more wonders, especially Victor. One thing about Champions League is that it is played home and away and if by mistake Napoli's able to beat you at their home, then they can get a draw at away. They have easily qualified. So the wrong thing to do is to underrate in-form team like Napoli where everybody is working their ass off in order to make the club proud.

Who will do that? They did not even understand football if they underrating napoli at this moment. None has been even seeing it as an underrated team. Napoli has become the favorite clubs to win UCL.


As you can see most people will take the safe decision to pick napoli instead of ac milan. I think that people were not stupid enough like you said. Any team has a chance to win UCL right now even though the chance between any team may be different caused by it will be affected by some reasons.
The next opponent gonna be ac milan and napoli gonna pass it easily without a tough game against ac milan.

I think that you may see the wrong statement about napoli.  Ac milan fans will always be thinking the club has bigger chance to win over napoli.
Those of us who often follow the matches of the two, surely know the difference in quality between the two teams. Indeed, if ordinary people or people who rarely follow football, surely they only know about Milan still being as great as before. But then and now you can't be equated anymore because every team makes big changes, especially from players to club management. And as we know Napoli is now the only team that is very difficult to beat by other strong teams in the domestic league. So it's clear that with Milan's current poor performance, it's not strong enough for them to be able to beat Napoli in all competitions, including the Champions League. Seeing the odds, I'm sure I would be very happy to bet on a Napoli win and I have no doubts at all.

It would be a big surprise if Milan emerged victorious from this matchup.  Napoli is the favorite of this match with its quality staff and young players.  They are also one of the best teams in the Tournament and are very close to winning the champions league this year.  If they come to the Maradona stadium with a double trophy, this year will be a year for Napoli fans to achieve unimaginable success.

 
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March 22, 2023, 01:34:52 PM
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Yes, I also have the same thoughts about the Serie A team in the quarter -final Champions League. From the 3 teams that succeeded in representing Serie A now, only Napoli have a very good and consistent appearance, so if I have to choose then I will make Napoli more favorite than the other two teams, namely Inter Milan and AC Milan.
If you look at the appearance and performance that Napoli has shown in the Champions League and also its own domestic league, of course Napoli has a big chance to reach the Champions League final this season, but I don't know any other team that will go to the final. Because Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich look equally strong here in the Champions League, it makes it difficult for me to predict which of the three of them will qualify for the Champions League final this season.

That is the surprising part of the Champions League this season. The underdogs play very strong in their domestic leagues (Napoli and Benfica) and the big favorites are all not ranked first in their leagues and also have some struggle once in a while. This is the chance for some new team to finally become the Champions League winner this year. Usually you wouldn't say that Napoli or even Benfica have a chance to win it, but this is year it is a different situation. More and more I lean towards Napoli being the real favorite here. Usually I would have said Manchester City, but Napoli is working like a perfect engine. They are probably the opponent who is most uncomfortable for any team to play against. You just know their results and even though they don't have the biggest name in the soccer world, every other team now knows that they are extremely hard to beat.

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March 22, 2023, 01:40:22 PM
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I don't think Napoli will beat AC Milan in this round because, AC Milan players will not allow Napoli players to have that chance they had in the Italian league game to scored those goals that gave them victory in this game. If what all those 3 teams are performing in the Italian league competition can perform it in the UEFA champions league quarterfinal, I guess AC Milan and Inter will meet for final because the two coach will like to use all their strength and energy to beat their opponent to qualify for final.

I suggest you to take a look at the previous meetings between napoli vs ac milan. You might know what's gonna be the answer for that. Napoli has been dominating almost all of matches against ac milan this season. Napoli is very strong at this moment and ac milan can do nothing in the previous matches.
did you watch the last game between milan against udinese? Ac milan was always losing against napoli and i think that the bad result against some week teams in serie a was also decreasing the chance that owned by milan to beat napoli at this moment.

Napoli is still leading the competitiong even though if it must be facing busy schedules. It's likely napoli may not need to use all of its strength against ac milan.
UCL match become very important match for both at this moment caused by this is the best league in europe.

Napoli's odd quite goods compared with ac milan at this moment which has become unfavorite club in this match.


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March 22, 2023, 02:27:49 PM
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I hope that ancellotti will did some evaluation. The problem is now real madrid defenders are lazy as fuck. It can be seen from some chances that already gotten by barcelona in the last game of elclassico.

I don’t think Real Madrid defenders are the cause of the problem. I think the coach has a fault in this. I think Carvajal should have less playing time. Going down to their central defenders like Rudiger and Militao are doing a good job in the absence of David Alaba. Also, I think Nacho is a bit slow and isn’t really going forward and attacking more.

In terms of midfielders, Luka Modric and Toni Kroos are almost worn out players. Players doing the real job are Camavinga and Valverde as they’ve been instrumental in linking the defense to the attack.

During the game against Liverpool, Toni Kroos should have supported Vini Jnr to attack from the left side and couldn’t.
I do think Madrid should change their coach who would be willing to bring in new players.

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March 22, 2023, 02:43:03 PM
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I hope that ancellotti will did some evaluation. The problem is now real madrid defenders are lazy as fuck. It can be seen from some chances that already gotten by barcelona in the last game of elclassico.

I don’t think Real Madrid defenders are the cause of the problem. I think the coach has a fault in this. I think Carvajal should have less playing time. Going down to their central defenders like Rudiger and Militao are doing a good job in the absence of David Alaba. Also, I think Nacho is a bit slow and isn’t really going forward and attacking more.

In terms of midfielders, Luka Modric and Toni Kroos are almost worn out players. Players doing the real job are Camavinga and Valverde as they’ve been instrumental in linking the defense to the attack.

During the game against Liverpool, Toni Kroos should have supported Vini Jnr to attack from the left side and couldn’t.
I do think Madrid should change their coach who would be willing to bring in new players.

I think the decline in Real Madrid's performance this season is due to the lack of activity in the transfer market. Currently El Real looks to be running out of energy, in La Liga it is starting to be seen that they are increasingly difficult to compete with Barcelona.

My prediction is that Real Madrid will only reach the semifinals this season. Ancelotti's current squad is not as strong as last season. Older players like Benzema, Modric and Kroos can no longer be completely relied on.
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March 22, 2023, 02:46:17 PM
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I think the decline in Real Madrid's performance this season is due to the lack of activity in the transfer market. Currently El Real looks to be running out of energy, in La Liga it is starting to be seen that they are increasingly difficult to compete with Barcelona.

My prediction is that Real Madrid will only reach the semifinals this season. Ancelotti's current squad is not as strong as last season. Older players like Benzema, Modric and Kroos can no longer be completely relied on.

You think Real Madrid can pass Chelsea but will be eliminated in the next round. That's general opinion.
I don't think the problem is transfers. They have a strong enough squad. They're just not the best for now. There are better teams than them. Some things you can't buy with money.
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March 22, 2023, 03:06:31 PM
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I think the decline in Real Madrid's performance this season is due to the lack of activity in the transfer market. Currently El Real looks to be running out of energy, in La Liga it is starting to be seen that they are increasingly difficult to compete with Barcelona.

My prediction is that Real Madrid will only reach the semifinals this season. Ancelotti's current squad is not as strong as last season. Older players like Benzema, Modric and Kroos can no longer be completely relied on.

You think Real Madrid can pass Chelsea but will be eliminated in the next round. That's general opinion.
I don't think the problem is transfers. They have a strong enough squad. They're just not the best for now. There are better teams than them. Some things you can't buy with money.

Honestly, I think that Real has some other problems, which are of a systemic nature and have existed for several years.
Real neither under Zidane nor under Ancelotti have developed a system of play and rely too much on the individual class of their players and sometimes luck, which can help in one or a few important games like last year but cannot be an effective approach every season.
Last year in the Spanish league, both Barcelona and Atletico were in a big crisis and Real won the title of the Spanish champion relatively easily, and in the Champions League they were lucky in the key matches of the knockout phase and won the Champions League.
However, this season Barcelona is playing great and Real has no chance against them in the Spanish league, and in the Champions League they also played against the ever weaker Liverpool. However, now comes the real challenges for them, Chelsea and then Manchester City. It will be very difficult for Real to repeat last year's success in the Champions League.

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March 22, 2023, 03:07:54 PM
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I think the decline in Real Madrid's performance this season is due to the lack of activity in the transfer market. Currently El Real looks to be running out of energy, in La Liga it is starting to be seen that they are increasingly difficult to compete with Barcelona.

My prediction is that Real Madrid will only reach the semifinals this season. Ancelotti's current squad is not as strong as last season. Older players like Benzema, Modric and Kroos can no longer be completely relied on.

You think Real Madrid can pass Chelsea but will be eliminated in the next round. That's general opinion.
I don't think the problem is transfers. They have a strong enough squad. They're just not the best for now. There are better teams than them. Some things you can't buy with money.
Honestly it seems the aging players in Real Madrid is already affecting the performance of the club Luka Modric is 37, Karim Benzema is 35 and David Kross is 33, Alaba  30 these are established and well experienced players unfortunately age is affecting their output, though Madrid has the likes of Camavinga, Vinicius Jr, Tchouameni as a promising talented youngsters, however I think Chelsea has a youthful squad who will pose a threat to Real Madrid qualification to the semifinals provided that Graham Potter played a good team with a perfect tactical formation.

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