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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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March 13, 2023, 06:11:08 PM
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Manchester City will be a huge favourite against Leipzig on paper of course. The first leg was indeed unexpected at the end due to Manchester City's staying ineffective in the second half. But Guardiola must have warned them about this performance already. I won't be expecting to see the same mistakes again in their home game this time.
All Manchester City need is to show their usual performance and play their own game. As long as they manage to do this in both halves there shouldn't be any problem about getting a decent win.
Manchester City are a bit far from their dominant image last year. They are 5 points behind Arsenal in the league. They could not get the result they wanted in the first match they played against Leipzig in the Champions League. Of course they still have a chance to win both the league and the champions league, but they had a better performance last season. Normally, Manchester City should win this match by a comfortable score. However, I can't form a definitive opinion on the outcome of this match as they have had a choppy performance this season. 

There is no difference in aggregate scores between these two teams. So, I believe Manchester City is going to actually have the upper hand going into this match. I do not understand how Leipzig is going to win the second leg against Manchester City. Of course, there is never a 100% chance of a team losing. But I also understand why people might think that Manchester City is not losing this match against Leipzig.

At certain times, Manchester City has not been very consistent. But I don't think they are going to be inconsistent that this stage.

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March 13, 2023, 06:50:22 PM
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Liverpool surprised everyone with a big win against Manchester United. But even then they could not return to form. Liverpool has lost against teams like Bournemouth. From this, it can be easily deduced that the performance of this group is very erratic. However, the Real Madrid team must play carefully. Because Liverpool has already proven that they are capable of winning by big margins even against strong opponents. Manchester United's defense was not weak. Even then, Liverpool managed to score 7 goals. And so if Real Madrid doesn't perform carefully and keep their defense tight then they are likely to lose by a big margin.
Liverpool have yet to find consistency in their form of play, after managing to leave an impression that is hard to forget for the Manchester United public, Liverpool couldn't do anything in the next game which made them have to accept an embarrassing defeat to Bournemouth.
Inconsistent performance means that Liverpool will experience difficulties when away to the Santiago Bernabeu. The results of the first leg made Liverpool even more depressed. Although anything can happen in football, I'm not sure Liverpool can score 4 goals without conceding at home to Real Madrid.
I think it is normal for them to be on a high after such a big win, it was obvious that they got a bit lucky and they needed to work hard to win every single game. However, they felt like we beat united 7-0, we can easily defeat bournemouth" and that type of cocky attitude cost them the game.

They have been playing with lack of fire for all season and that is why they are losing, we have seen it time and time after again which is why I doubt that it would be easy for them to recover since it's such a long standing issue. We should just accept that they are going to suck this year, and will have to just focus on next season already.
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March 13, 2023, 07:03:09 PM
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I think it is normal for them to be on a high after such a big win, it was obvious that they got a bit lucky and they needed to work hard to win every single game. However, they felt like we beat united 7-0, we can easily defeat bournemouth" and that type of cocky attitude cost them the game.

They have been playing with lack of fire for all season and that is why they are losing, we have seen it time and time after again which is why I doubt that it would be easy for them to recover since it's such a long standing issue. We should just accept that they are going to suck this year, and will have to just focus on next season already.
Initially, many were confident after the goal feast from the match against Man United, after that they had to be ashamed of losing to relegation team Bournemouth, of course there would be a lot of polemics where they doubted Liverpool again in the Champions League, especially against Real Madrid, which is clear Liverpool did not have good statistics when dealing with Real. Madrid, so I conclude this will not be strong for Liverpool to win because their pressure is too great for 3 goals and above.

I don't know what happened this season it's clear they are being erratic in every game, thinking next season might be better than this season.

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March 13, 2023, 07:04:42 PM
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Manchester City are a bit far from their dominant image last year. They are 5 points behind Arsenal in the league. They could not get the result they wanted in the first match they played against Leipzig in the Champions League. Of course they still have a chance to win both the league and the champions league, but they had a better performance last season. Normally, Manchester City should win this match by a comfortable score. However, I can't form a definitive opinion on the outcome of this match as they have had a choppy performance this season.
Manchester City have never been dominant in the Champions League even when they have won the Premier League by a lot of points. They struggle against teams like Real Madrid who have a different style. I think a lot of English teams struggle with the different play style of the other european leagues because they are slower and there is a lot more fouls. Premier League teams are very aggressive and get away with harder tackles then other leagues. I think Real Madrid wins this Champions League again their experience is very valuable and no other team in the Champions League has the experience they have.
When they are in the domestic league they appear superior and when they are in the Champions League they cannot show the same superiority. Not only Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Paris Saint Germain also did the same thing. It's no longer about strategy or anything like that, but it's about a huge mentality that every team has to have. Yes we can see that with Real Madrid, how many people doubted them last season? but they can be champions.
Of course mentality is also very influential on victory. But strategy is the most important part of the game. If we compare with Real Madrid last season, and talk about the mentality of the players, I don't think that makes sense, because last season's Real Madrid players were also filled with young players, of course they had little experience in the UCL. But what is Carlo's strategy with the young player? He replaced players after several opposing players were replaced, that's where he saw the opponent's weaknesses and replaced players accordingly. If the running speed of the opponent's back line is weak, then he replaces it with a straiker with a faster running speed. So you can make good use of long balls.
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March 13, 2023, 07:06:24 PM
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Manchester City will be a huge favourite against Leipzig on paper of course. The first leg was indeed unexpected at the end due to Manchester City's staying ineffective in the second half. But Guardiola must have warned them about this performance already. I won't be expecting to see the same mistakes again in their home game this time.
All Manchester City need is to show their usual performance and play their own game. As long as they manage to do this in both halves there shouldn't be any problem about getting a decent win.
Manchester City are a bit far from their dominant image last year. They are 5 points behind Arsenal in the league. They could not get the result they wanted in the first match they played against Leipzig in the Champions League. Of course they still have a chance to win both the league and the champions league, but they had a better performance last season. Normally, Manchester City should win this match by a comfortable score. However, I can't form a definitive opinion on the outcome of this match as they have had a choppy performance this season. 

There is no difference in aggregate scores between these two teams. So, I believe Manchester City is going to actually have the upper hand going into this match. I do not understand how Leipzig is going to win the second leg against Manchester City. Of course, there is never a 100% chance of a team losing. But I also understand why people might think that Manchester City is not losing this match against Leipzig.

At certain times, Manchester City has not been very consistent. But I don't think they are going to be inconsistent that this stage.
I think that Man City can face some difficulties against Leipzig, because we've seen them struggle to score  against Crystal Palace and a penalty saved them from a draw, and Leipzig could probably lean a lot towards defense and try to take advantage from counter attacks and some corner kicks and free kicks, for now I can't see them losing in their home stadium against Leipzig, but a draw in the first half is very likely to happen.

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March 13, 2023, 07:08:11 PM
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PSG is just an overrated club where they have Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, but actually only both Mbappe and Messi are the most important to score a goal, while Neymar is just helping Mbappe or as a second striker. When Mbappe play without Messi, he doesn't get many chances to score a goal, but when Messi play without Mbappe, there's no striker have better decision than Mbappe.

Bayern Munich is already strong without a star player because they're better in develop a good potential player without spend a lot money.
Since they became a club many stars they have always failed to win. But it does seem like they have only been able to afford domestic competitions. Besides, there is indeed no French club that can play better than PSG in the UCL. So I think indeed their club's ability is only up to this level.
In addition the draw in the first knockout phase they were quite unlucky because they met a big team with a good UCL history. So maybe if they play against a club other than Bayern they have a bigger chance. I think the PSG owners should make improvements in the team immediately. They need hardworking players not just star players.
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March 13, 2023, 07:12:11 PM
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I still don't understand why many people think Liverpool can beat Real Madrid 4-0 in leg 2 later. I think it's not difficult for Liverpool to happen even though Liverpool can beat Man United by 7-0. The UCL clash with Real Madrid was lost after 5-2 in the first leg, there's no turning back for that.
But it's not something easy for Liverpool to achieve 4 goals without reply when dealing with Real Madrid. Maybe Liverpool will win the match, but by a narrow score, 2-1 or 1-0. Which in the end Liverpool also did not qualify for the last 8. But I'm sure Liverpool will also lose in the 2nd leg.
Even though Real Madrid will be playing at home, Liverpool are likely to win. I also think that Liverpool can somehow just win but it is almost impossible for them to go to the next round. But I think this match will not be so one-sided like the first leg.
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March 13, 2023, 07:31:12 PM
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Liverpool must win at least 4-0 at home to Real Madrid to qualify for the quarter-finals, this will be a difficult mission for Liverpool who are not in their best form. Real Madrid always performs well in the UCL even though sometimes they drop points very often in La Liga. After trailing Barcelona by 9 points in La Liga, Ancelotti will focus more on the Champions League title as a reward at the end of the season. It took a miracle for Liverpool to qualify for the quarter-finals because their chances were very small.
There is belief that Liverpool can score that many goals at the Santiago Bernabeu, but no more than one doubts it.
Liverpool in my opinion can beat Real Madrid in the second leg, but they will not make it through to the next round. Real Madrid will very likely maintain their aggregate goal advantage in the second leg, but I would really say they are unlucky if Liverpool manage to come back with a 0-4.

I think Ancelotti really needs to know what they are doing in the second leg. Of course getting a strong defense instead of focusing on attacking, but that doesn't mean he has to play defense, he just has to be very capable of keeping his team clean from conceding lots of goals.

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March 13, 2023, 07:33:20 PM
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I still don't understand why many people think Liverpool can beat Real Madrid 4-0 in leg 2 later. I think it's not difficult for Liverpool to happen even though Liverpool can beat Man United by 7-0. The UCL clash with Real Madrid was lost after 5-2 in the first leg, there's no turning back for that.
But it's not something easy for Liverpool to achieve 4 goals without reply when dealing with Real Madrid. Maybe Liverpool will win the match, but by a narrow score, 2-1 or 1-0. Which in the end Liverpool also did not qualify for the last 8. But I'm sure Liverpool will also lose in the 2nd leg.
Even though Real Madrid will be playing at home, Liverpool are likely to win. I also think that Liverpool can somehow just win but it is almost impossible for them to go to the next round. But I think this match will not be so one-sided like the first leg.
I don't even see the possibility of them winning at the Bernabeu.
Even though it is clear that Madrid will play safer and will not be too focused on winning, I think Madrid's strategy when facing Liverpool always works.
Apart from the first leg match, the previous final was also Madrid being pushed hard by Liverpool but they could win that match and possibly in the second leg as well.

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March 13, 2023, 07:43:43 PM
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Real Madrid is not under any pressure now. If they can play their usual game then they will win against Liverpool. Although it is not easy to predict whether Liverpool will win or lose this season, the chances of Liverpool winning at home to Real Madrid are very low. Unless something unimaginable happens, it is very natural to say that Real Madrid will play the next round.
maybe it would be different if the team Liverpool played against was not Madrid. surely Liverpool will have the opportunity to catch up with the goal. but facing Madrid at home, it's definitely not going to be easy for Liverpool. chasing a 3 goal difference, with his best performance it will also be difficult to win at home to Madrid without conceding.
unless the drama against United gets repeated.
Liverpool must win at least 4-0 at home to Real Madrid to qualify for the quarter-finals, this will be a difficult mission for Liverpool who are not in their best form. Real Madrid always performs well in the UCL even though sometimes they drop points very often in La Liga. After trailing Barcelona by 9 points in La Liga, Ancelotti will focus more on the Champions League title as a reward at the end of the season. It took a miracle for Liverpool to qualify for the quarter-finals because their chances were very small.

A miracle indeed is needed for Liverpool to actually qualified but one thing that makes football very interesting is that its actually filled with miraculous things. The greatest champions league comeback I guess was pulled by the Spanish tiki taka masters (F.C BARCELONA). That night was one the greatest football match I have ever watch, fc Barcelona were actually trailing by 4 goals in the first leg but as faith and football would have it, something astonishing happened that night and history was made, a record comeback of 6-1 were actually pulled off by Barcelona. I juat hope the reds of England can actually do something spectacular tomorrow and maybe write history and deliver themselves into the next round of the champion league.

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March 13, 2023, 07:53:31 PM
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In the first leg, there really wasn't much difference regarding the performances of these two clubs, but the red card that the Porto players got, which required them to play with 10 people, really had an effect on the outcome of the game. Inter Milan can score the only goal when they have the advantage in the number of players. And even that they got in the final minutes before the match was over. If only in the first leg Porto still had a full number of players until the match was over I think they would be able to keep the score tied until the match was over.
If we look at Porto's strength in the primeira league, then of course from this it is clear that Porto has a level of strength to be reckoned with. and their incredible consistency in Primeira also really stands out. because it only has 3 defeat of a total of 24 matches. And inter milan in serie a is in second place with Porto which is also ranked second in the Primeira Liga. but Inter Milan has lost 8 of 26 matches in Serie A. And this shows that the difference in the level of consistency between Inter Milan and Porto in their respective local leagues is obvious. i.e. Porto is more consistent of course. and in the first leg Inter Milan also looked very difficult to score against Porto when Porto still played with 11 players. so it could be that in the second leg Porto will avenge their defeat. But Inter Milan has a strong defense. their only drawback is on the front lines which are always less effective in taking advantage of opportunities.

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March 13, 2023, 07:55:43 PM
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Initially, many were confident after the goal feast from the match against Man United, after that they had to be ashamed of losing to relegation team Bournemouth, of course there would be a lot of polemics where they doubted Liverpool again in the Champions League, especially against Real Madrid, which is clear Liverpool did not have good statistics when dealing with Real. Madrid, so I conclude this will not be strong for Liverpool to win because their pressure is too great for 3 goals and above.

I don't know what happened this season it's clear they are being erratic in every game, thinking next season might be better than this season.

At the moment, bookmakers rate Liverpool's chances of getting into the top 4 at 2.75, well below 50%. So if Liverpool don't get into the top 4 they won't have a single chance for a better next season, because a season without the Champions League is a failure for any top club. Interestingly enough, the chances of three teams (Newcastle, Tottenham and Liverpool) to get into the top 4 are estimated to be almost equal.

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March 13, 2023, 08:08:36 PM
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A miracle indeed is needed for Liverpool to actually qualified but one thing that makes football very interesting is that its actually filled with miraculous things. The greatest champions league comeback I guess was pulled by the Spanish tiki taka masters (F.C BARCELONA). That night was one the greatest football match I have ever watch, fc Barcelona were actually trailing by 4 goals in the first leg but as faith and football would have it, something astonishing happened that night and history was made, a record comeback of 6-1 were actually pulled off by Barcelona. I juat hope the reds of England can actually do something spectacular tomorrow and maybe write history and deliver themselves into the next round of the champion league.
miracles will happen but it will be very impossible because playing at home to the opponent. Moreover, Liverpool have not fully returned to winning ways in the matches they played in the domestic league so this will make their mentality not strong enough to beat Real Madrid at the Bernabeu.

Real madrid is a pretty tough team in the champions league I believe they will openly qualify for the next round. it was difficult for liverpool to score 3 goals in this match because real madrid defense was strong enough to block attacks from liverpool players.

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Manchester City has been a goalscoring juggernaut on their home field in the Champions League, and one of the teams that experienced that proverbial storm was Leipzig who lost at Etihad Stadium two years ago by the score of 6-3. This Man City vs Leipzig match is about the goalscoring mayhem that is about to happen again. Domestically, Man City shares the top spot with Arsenal in the Premier League with the most over 3.5 goals matches, they both had 12 of them. However, the City's average is 3.5 goals per game. Leipzig had eight games of more than three goals scored this season in the Bundesliga, mancity is the favourite team to win this match.
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March 13, 2023, 08:19:09 PM
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I still don't understand why many people think Liverpool can beat Real Madrid 4-0 in leg 2 later. I think it's not difficult for Liverpool to happen even though Liverpool can beat Man United by 7-0. The UCL clash with Real Madrid was lost after 5-2 in the first leg, there's no turning back for that.
they must be fans, and that's not wrong lol but I personally think it's impossible if liverpool can win 4-0 over madrid

tomorrow's ucl league is porto vs inter & man city vs leipzig. I chose Inter and Man City in the bet, Man City in the 2nd leg will definitely perform much better than in the 1st leg

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March 13, 2023, 08:39:37 PM
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Real Madrid is not under any pressure now. If they can play their usual game then they will win against Liverpool. Although it is not easy to predict whether Liverpool will win or lose this season, the chances of Liverpool winning at home to Real Madrid are very low. Unless something unimaginable happens, it is very natural to say that Real Madrid will play the next round.
maybe it would be different if the team Liverpool played against was not Madrid. surely Liverpool will have the opportunity to catch up with the goal. but facing Madrid at home, it's definitely not going to be easy for Liverpool. chasing a 3 goal difference, with his best performance it will also be difficult to win at home to Madrid without conceding.
unless the drama against United gets repeated.
Liverpool must win at least 4-0 at home to Real Madrid to qualify for the quarter-finals, this will be a difficult mission for Liverpool who are not in their best form. Real Madrid always performs well in the UCL even though sometimes they drop points very often in La Liga. After trailing Barcelona by 9 points in La Liga, Ancelotti will focus more on the Champions League title as a reward at the end of the season. It took a miracle for Liverpool to qualify for the quarter-finals because their chances were very small.

A miracle indeed is needed for Liverpool to actually qualified but one thing that makes football very interesting is that its actually filled with miraculous things. The greatest champions league comeback I guess was pulled by the Spanish tiki taka masters (F.C BARCELONA). That night was one the greatest football match I have ever watch, fc Barcelona were actually trailing by 4 goals in the first leg but as faith and football would have it, something astonishing happened that night and history was made, a record comeback of 6-1 were actually pulled off by Barcelona. I juat hope the reds of England can actually do something spectacular tomorrow and maybe write history and deliver themselves into the next round of the champion league.

we can leave aside the game of the first leg, let's look at the last game of the two teams in their local leagues:

Liverpool = in their last game liverpool lost and I watched the game, it was a game in which their opponent who was not a strong opponent on paper played much better than liverpool, it was unbelievable that liverpool could not cause much danger to the opponent , and your opponent is fighting to get out of the relegation zone, we could argue that liverpool would not be playing with their best players, but liverpool were playing with their best players and lost

Real Madrid = in its last game real madrid beat its opponent and scored 3 goals, even though it was a weak opponent on paper, the most important thing is that real madrid won the game having its best scorer. with that we can see that for this game i don't see real madrid losing the game, i don't see liverpool moving to another phase. liverpool needs to make changes in the team, this season is already lost

tomorrow's ucl league is porto vs inter & man city vs leipzig. I chose Inter and Man City in the bet, Man City in the 2nd leg will definitely perform much better than in the 1st leg

Porto this season are not as strong as in past seasons, but Inter are not a reliable team, I won't be surprised if Porto wins in this game, as for City, Leipzig is a strong team, and honestly Leipzig has chances to win in this game, that's why I will avoid betting on these two games because they are very unpredictable games, in their last premier league game city is bad in attack, and it is likely that this game will end in a draw

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March 13, 2023, 08:54:05 PM
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Even though it's true that football is full of surprises, I won't be holding my breath much from Liverpool in their return leg against Real Madrid. I don't think Liverpool will advance to the next round, but it's possible they could win the second leg if their lucky. However, I don't think they can beat Real Madrid and advance to next level because they made serious mistakes by giving up a lot of goals in the first leg, and  with what they are playing currently, I don't think they have a any advantage to even win Real Madrid at their stadium.the home game will even give Madrid big advantage to win Liverpool again.

Anyone still doubt Real Madrid to qualify? I think it's just a miracle that can make Liverpol win by a four-goal margin at the Bernabeu. I feel very confident that Real Madrid will definitely pass the next round. Perhaps Real will be without Alaba, but Anceloti already has the option of replacing with Militao and Nacho Fernandes or Rudiger. In addition, Real Madrid must not underestimate Liverpool, they must still make quick goals to suppress Liverpool's mentality. This Madrid must do so that Liverpool's players are not free to improve.
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March 13, 2023, 09:05:01 PM
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Even though it's true that football is full of surprises, I won't be holding my breath much from Liverpool in their return leg against Real Madrid. I don't think Liverpool will advance to the next round, but it's possible they could win the second leg if their lucky. However, I don't think they can beat Real Madrid and advance to next level because they made serious mistakes by giving up a lot of goals in the first leg, and  with what they are playing currently, I don't think they have a any advantage to even win Real Madrid at their stadium.the home game will even give Madrid big advantage to win Liverpool again.

Anyone still doubt Real Madrid to qualify? I think it's just a miracle that can make Liverpol win by a four-goal margin at the Bernabeu. I feel very confident that Real Madrid will definitely pass the next round. Perhaps Real will be without Alaba, but Anceloti already has the option of replacing with Militao and Nacho Fernandes or Rudiger. In addition, Real Madrid must not underestimate Liverpool, they must still make quick goals to suppress Liverpool's mentality. This Madrid must do so that Liverpool's players are not free to improve.
this is not argument, Real Madrid are already in the next stage of the league. Liverpool can't win this game.. Real Madrid are Champions league master. They have dorminated the league for years no one come close to them. How can you imagine Liverpool scoring Real Madrid four goals with this their poor form, losing to a struggling Bournermouth in premier league last weekend. Isn't a good result to play Real Madrid tomorrow with.
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March 13, 2023, 09:16:57 PM
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Frankfurt have done a really good work so far but that must be it for them as of now. They have already lost the first leg by 2-0 and the rematch is even in Italy. They need a miracle to make a comeback against this Napoli now. Napoli are having an insane season and they aren't doing this only in the Serie A. They want to benefit from this situation in every tournament if possible.

Frankfurt aren't a team that can eliminate here. Napoli need to face much bigger teams to see what they can do against them.

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March 13, 2023, 09:30:06 PM
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I expect napoli and liverpool to win matches. Napoli won the first game 2-0 so I have no doubt that they will start the game comfortably but it's still a risky score. Kim min jae is a really great stopper and that's why Napoli is not a team that concedes goals easily. In general, Napoli are already playing amazingly this year and they are terrorizing their opponents. Frankfurt doesn't seem to be able to do much in this away game. That's why I am one of those who think that napoli will win this match.
On the other hand, we are talking about liverpool who scored 7 goals against a team in form like manchester united. I know that this is a team that can come back from this score. I think they can do it if they want, but if they want to make things easier they will have to play a dominant game. They need to score in the first half and open the gap. It's difficult but not impossible for them.

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