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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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May 30, 2023, 09:19:53 PM
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As I said earlier this is a coincidence and indeed too often in that case but it's not a mistake of coincidence but indeed we see other conditions that in this case Croatian players are really good because they are at a club that always wins there.
But then again the possibility of that now being broken by Manchester City and even if it's not certain but my hope is that with the probabilities now it's very good for them.
Coincidence and luck occur quite often in soccer matches. So getting a theory like this is also not wrong. But apart from all that, Inter Milan currently has the potential to surprise us in the final. Even if they are not superior. but Inter Milan's current spearheads, namely Lukaku and Martinez, can really make Inter Milan's attack line endanger Man City. Inter Milan's goal productivity is currently increasing rapidly. Which means Inter Milan can also not use a defensive strategy and in fact they can also use the same strategy as Man City which always uses an offensive strategy.
Well, there will definitely be an assumption like that and it is still possible to happen, but on the other hand, at this time actually betting on Inter as well and expecting surprises in it will be very difficult.
For the final odds this time, Manchester City is 1.42 and Inter is 7.60, the comparison from the bookies is also very far in this case.
Lukaku and Martinez are still very good in this regard, even though Lukaku's performance is difficult to predict, but on the other hand, things like this, especially for their attacks, will most likely only be carried out rarely, especially with the dominance of Manchester City's midfield which is very good.

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May 30, 2023, 09:41:33 PM
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Yes, because I know that Inter Milan will not be favored in the final, everyone will see the strength of these two clubs, I am sure that those who support Intermilan will not bet on him, but I support Manchester City because I am willing to bet on their victory. Manchester City's great desire to win the UCL this season has been very visible since getting rid of several big clubs. Manchester city has a winning mentality because not long ago they also won the English league.

I think winning the UCL has been Manchester City's dream for a long time, of course they won't waste the final match later, especially when the two meet there are no first and second legs, they have worked hard until this final, so they will play as well as possible, I hope Intermilan will also give resistance  Grin Grin
Indeed, there is some speculation that I see that the betting house is more choose that Manchester City will be able to win the UCL trophy this season. This was inseparable after they were able to display quite impressive strength this season.  Manchester city was able to beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid in the previous round which is a big benchmark for us that Manchester City will be able to win the final match later.

Apart from that, we also want to see the Champions League final this season more solid than the two teams, I mean Inter Milan must be able to get rid of all doubts for themselves by being able to show a stronger game in the final match later.

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May 30, 2023, 09:59:37 PM
Last edit: May 30, 2023, 10:10:30 PM by kawetsriyanto
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I agree with you if Manchester City scores the first goal and tries to take control of the game Inter Milan will not be able to do anything because, unlike Manchester City, Inter Milan can't have strong attacks and play safe to save the ball that's why I think at the moment when Macnshter City scored the first goal they are going to win the game.
How do you know this? And do assume Inter Milan has weak attackers?  Huh
If Inter Milan has weak attackers, they won't reach the final round, mate. You too underestimate Inter, they have some top attackers. Lautaro Martínez, Lukaku, and Edin Dzeko are good attackers. Inter Milan can use a counter-attack strategy perfectly with those strikers. But for sure, Inter Milan must be ready to strengthen their defense.

By the way, scoring faster never guarantees a win. The final UCL can be determined by a penalty shoot-out. Moreover, if Man City leads by only 1 goal, they must be careful of a surprise made by Inter. So, I think it is difficult to predict the winner by considering which one to score first.


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May 30, 2023, 10:30:03 PM
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As I said earlier this is a coincidence and indeed too often in that case but it's not a mistake of coincidence but indeed we see other conditions that in this case Croatian players are really good because they are at a club that always wins there.
But then again the possibility of that now being broken by Manchester City and even if it's not certain but my hope is that with the probabilities now it's very good for them.
Coincidence and luck occur quite often in soccer matches. So getting a theory like this is also not wrong. But apart from all that, Inter Milan currently has the potential to surprise us in the final. Even if they are not superior. but Inter Milan's current spearheads, namely Lukaku and Martinez, can really make Inter Milan's attack line endanger Man City. Inter Milan's goal productivity is currently increasing rapidly. Which means Inter Milan can also not use a defensive strategy and in fact they can also use the same strategy as Man City which always uses an offensive strategy.
Well, there will definitely be an assumption like that and it is still possible to happen, but on the other hand, at this time actually betting on Inter as well and expecting surprises in it will be very difficult.
For the final odds this time, Manchester City is 1.42 and Inter is 7.60, the comparison from the bookies is also very far in this case.
Lukaku and Martinez are still very good in this regard, even though Lukaku's performance is difficult to predict, but on the other hand, things like this, especially for their attacks, will most likely only be carried out rarely, especially with the dominance of Manchester City's midfield which is very good.
Correct. Indeed, that is the main problem that must be faced by Inter Milan, namely Man City, which actually has advantages on all fronts. whether it's attack, midfield and backline. Of course this is what will make it difficult for Inter Milan to be able to implement an offensive strategy. However, if Inter Milan also implements a Defensive strategy, this will be tantamount to allowing Man City's attackers to be more free to make more attempted attacks. And I doubt that Inter Milan can continue to survive the attacks built by Man City players who always endanger their opponents. And Inzaghi must think hard about it. To be honest I was tempted to bet on Inter Milan. but I don't want to take the risk, and will still bet on Man City in the final.

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May 30, 2023, 10:39:30 PM
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I agree with you if Manchester City scores the first goal and tries to take control of the game Inter Milan will not be able to do anything because, unlike Manchester City, Inter Milan can't have strong attacks and play safe to save the ball that's why I think at the moment when Macnshter City scored the first goal they are going to win the game.

It is not so much about Inter Milan to be weaker in their offensive game, but Manchester City then has the option to fast counter attacks once Inter opens their defensive lines. That is what Manchester City also likes to do as they can have more variance in their game than only to possess the ball 75% or 80%. Taking the lead gives them all the options they wish for and would destroy Inter's strategy immediately.

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May 30, 2023, 10:45:27 PM
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I agree with you if Manchester City scores the first goal and tries to take control of the game Inter Milan will not be able to do anything because, unlike Manchester City, Inter Milan can't have strong attacks and play safe to save the ball that's why I think at the moment when Macnshter City scored the first goal they are going to win the game.

The game has not even started and how do you know that to happen?  Cheesy

You looks so funny in predicting how game will be running. There's none will have ever able predicting it. You are predicting like manchester city gonna win easily against intermilan but what will be happening if the same story against chelsea will be happening again?

Anyone who put their bet into the manchester city will be startled.  Grin How the match will be going on is still unknown until we will able to see that use our eyes directly which team that will be dominating the match.

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I agree with you if Manchester City scores the first goal and tries to take control of the game Inter Milan will not be able to do anything because, unlike Manchester City, Inter Milan can't have strong attacks and play safe to save the ball that's why I think at the moment when Macnshter City scored the first goal they are going to win the game.
How do you know this? And do assume Inter Milan has weak attackers?  Huh
If Inter Milan has weak attackers, they won't reach the final round, mate. You too underestimate Inter, they have some top attackers. Lautaro Martínez, Lukaku, and Edin Dzeko are good attackers. Inter Milan can use a counter-attack strategy perfectly with those strikers. But for sure, Inter Milan must be ready to strengthen their defense.

By the way, scoring faster never guarantees a win. The final UCL can be determined by a penalty shoot-out. Moreover, if Man City leads by only 1 goal, they must be careful of a surprise made by Inter. So, I think it is difficult to predict the winner by considering which one to score first.



These attackers all are dangerous against any team Inter can face indeed. I'm curious about one thing which is whether Inzaghi is thinking of starting with Lukaku this time. Because there has been a significant level of improvement in his effort in the recent times. He started to score quite often when he had the chance just like in the old times.

But Inzaghi still didn't prefer him for a couple of matches. We saw Martinez - Dzeko duo in both legs of the Champions League semi finals. Lukaku can still enter in the second half of course. But I still feel like he can be really useful thanks to his physique as well. It is really not easy to bring him down.

Maybe Inzaghi likes to keep him like a game changer in the subs to have him on the field on the right time of a match. If Inter resist Manchester City for a long time then Lukaku's being subbed in would make a good impact.

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The game has not even started and how do you know that to happen?  Cheesy

You looks so funny in predicting how game will be running. There's none will have ever able predicting it. You are predicting like manchester city gonna win easily against intermilan but what will be happening if the same story against chelsea will be happening again?

Anyone who put their bet into the manchester city will be startled.  Grin How the match will be going on is still unknown until we will able to see that use our eyes directly which team that will be dominating the match.
Nothing can be predicted exactly how the final match will go because these two teams still have the same chance.  I think both inter milan and manchester city they have a pretty good moment this season and they will give their best in the final match later.

It is fitting for Manchester City to dominate the final match because those who say this are Manchester City fans but if they are not fans of these two teams I think they will be in a difficult situation to predict who will win the UCL trophy this season. Inter milan is not weak they can provide interesting resistance later.

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May 30, 2023, 11:02:17 PM
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Formation of Inter will remain the same but there are deviations in formation on depending who is playing at wings. If he starts with Darmian instead of Dumfris then it will be more defensive and vice versa. Inter midlefield is one of their strongest points so it won't be so easy like people say.

It's not clear what striker that will be used by intermilan as well. Inter can have two options lautaro - dzeko / lautaro - martinez. This is the main problem that has been facing by us to be so difficult predicting the line up for intermilan.
Predicting city's line up is quite easy compared with intermilan at this moment.

Intermilan was very often starting with dumfries and i guess if he will become the main choice by simone inzaghi in upcoming match. In my opinion if that's the best line up owned by intermilan.
I guess if it must be also focusing into the defenders. It's caused by city is also having best attackers as well.

intermilan may need to change its strategy.

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I agree with you if Manchester City scores the first goal and tries to take control of the game Inter Milan will not be able to do anything because, unlike Manchester City, Inter Milan can't have strong attacks and play safe to save the ball that's why I think at the moment when Macnshter City scored the first goal they are going to win the game.
The question should be Manchester vs inter Milan is there a possible balance groond for the two clubs to contend for the game, the answer is NO, because while Manchester City is already a leading champion with top players in their team, inter Milan on the other hand still struggle to defend their few points their managed to generate in this season and they know quite alright the risk that is facing them being booked to play against Manchester City.

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I agree with you if Manchester City scores the first goal and tries to take control of the game Inter Milan will not be able to do anything because, unlike Manchester City, Inter Milan can't have strong attacks and play safe to save the ball that's why I think at the moment when Macnshter City scored the first goal they are going to win the game.

It is not so much about Inter Milan to be weaker in their offensive game, but Manchester City then has the option to fast counter attacks once Inter opens their defensive lines. That is what Manchester City also likes to do as they can have more variance in their game than only to possess the ball 75% or 80%. Taking the lead gives them all the options they wish for and would destroy Inter's strategy immediately.
Inter Milan's attack line is actually quite strong. It's just that Inter Milan sometimes doesn't have good consistency in their attack line. But for Inter Milan's defense area I have absolutely no doubts about the robustness of their defense. They are one of the teams with the strongest defense of the Italian league. But in the match against Manchester City, of course we don't know whether Inter Milan's solid defense will hold on firmly or not in front of Manchester City's attackers who are always hungry for goals later.

And because this is a final then of course both teams will try to be the first to score. I initially predicted that maybe Inter Milan would make a defensive strategy and try to make the match go to the penalty shootout. But I changed my mind. Because I think this strategy will actually be far more dangerous for Inter Milan, who will continue to be pounded by Manchester City's attack line. Even I think Inter Milan will find it difficult to counterattack. because Manchester City also has an equally strong midfield and defense line.

I think the match will be the most aggressive match for these two. Unfortunately there are not many official meetings in the competition that have brought Inter Milan to Manchester City until now. So that the meeting of these two teams in the Champions League final can be said to be their first official meeting in the competition. Maybe these two teams have also met in several competitions. but that's been quite a while. like in the super cup in 2011. and at that time Manchester City got the win.
So it's only natural that we have difficulty predicting how the match between these two teams will take place.

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Nothing can be predicted exactly how the final match will go because these two teams still have the same chance.  I think both inter milan and manchester city they have a pretty good moment this season and they will give their best in the final match later.
That's what im thinking about that. Both have equal chances to dominating the match right now. In my opinion if these days intermiland and city are preparing everything for upcoming match. The next match gonna happen at the middle of next month. That's why it's very hard to predict which club that will able to win.

Most of people may pick manchester city but intermilan has not been losing its chance to win the trophy as well. I would like to call that as equal at this moment. It's caused by intermilan is also very strong right now.


It is fitting for Manchester City to dominate the final match because those who say this are Manchester City fans but if they are not fans of these two teams I think they will be in a difficult situation to predict who will win the UCL trophy this season. Inter milan is not weak they can provide interesting resistance later.
Anything can happen in football. I don't even wanna try to pick which team that will be dominating the match. The good vision is keep calm until the match will be starting.

I have no problem with people argued that city will be dominating the match and scoring the goals easily against intermilan but they were underestimating intermilan.

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Formation of Inter will remain the same but there are deviations in formation on depending who is playing at wings. If he starts with Darmian instead of Dumfris then it will be more defensive and vice versa. Inter midlefield is one of their strongest points so it won't be so easy like people say.

It's not clear what striker that will be used by intermilan as well. Inter can have two options lautaro - dzeko / lautaro - martinez. This is the main problem that has been facing by us to be so difficult predicting the line up for intermilan.
Predicting city's line up is quite easy compared with intermilan at this moment.

Intermilan was very often starting with dumfries and i guess if he will become the main choice by simone inzaghi in upcoming match. In my opinion if that's the best line up owned by intermilan.
I guess if it must be also focusing into the defenders. It's caused by city is also having best attackers as well.

intermilan may need to change its strategy.

As far as I know, Inter Milan usually waits on the defensive line and tries to use the counter-attacks and possible mistakes of the other team while Manchester City got a very strong attacker in hand and if Inter Milan tries to hold the ball in the defensive line Mancshter City can easily score goals. They also got an experienced coach like Guardiola to guide them however I think Inzaghi will change tactics for the final match against Manchester City.

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May 30, 2023, 11:47:09 PM
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The question should be Manchester vs inter Milan is there a possible balance ground for the two clubs to contend for the game, the answer is NO, because while Manchester City is already a leading champion with top players in their team, inter Milan on the other hand still struggle to defend their few points their managed to generate in this season and they know quite alright the risk that is facing them being booked to play against Manchester City.

Inter Milan might be the underdogs but never underestimate the underdogs because Chelsea has down it against Manchester city and with a squad just filled with youngsters and don't have much experience in the champions league. If inter Milan are determined, they can defeat Manchester city, Manchester city aren't as strong as they were in the past when they played without a striker. Also I saw something online of a myth of one player form this particular country always been present I'm the champions league winning side and that's a player from Croatia which Manchester city doesn't have.

Inter Milan has a Croatia player in their team. All this are just superstition though it'll might have any effect on the game. Football is all about which team wants the point the more and are willing to do anytime to get that three point. Manchester city are the favorites to win the competition but they don't have the 12th man backing them which are the footballing fans because from the atmosphere I'm receiving, most people want inter Milan to win and save football by allowing oil money to win everything they set eyes on.

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May 30, 2023, 11:54:05 PM
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Anything can happen in football. I don't even wanna try to pick which team that will be dominating the match. The good vision is keep calm until the match will be starting.

I have no problem with people argued that city will be dominating the match and scoring the goals easily against intermilan but they were underestimating intermilan.

Anything could literally happen in football and the game could go either way. And the game between Manchester City and Inter Milan isn’t any different. While it’s best to keep calm until the game starts, you wouldn’t deny the abilities Manchester City possesses. They’ve been in top form and in my opinion, are favorites to win in the game against Inter.
Not to underestimate Inter Milan as they’ve got dependable players capable of scoring goals as well. It definitely would be interesting to watch what team would prevail over the other.
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Anything could literally happen in football and the game could go either way. And the game between Manchester City and Inter Milan isn’t any different. While it’s best to keep calm until the game starts, you wouldn’t deny the abilities Manchester City possesses. They’ve been in top form and in my opinion, are favorites to win in the game against Inter.
Not to underestimate Inter Milan as they’ve got dependable players capable of scoring goals as well. It definitely would be interesting to watch what team would prevail over the other.
If Inter Milan were able to beat Barcelona at their golden era, they can repeat it when playing against Manchester City in the final match. Manchester City and Barcelona have golden teams, dominating their domestic leagues but Manchester City can be considered weaker than Barcelona as they don't dominate Champions League like Barcelona.

Inter Milan in the past and this season don't have too many star players but they are a very united team and they have enough quality players to run their favorite tactics. Simeone Inzaghi has less reputation and achievement than Jose Mourinho but will he be able to beat Pep Guardiola?

We should not say he won't be able to do that. He can.

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If Inter Milan were able to beat Barcelona at their golden era, they can repeat it when playing against Manchester City in the final match. Manchester City and Barcelona have golden teams, dominating their domestic leagues but Manchester City can be considered weaker than Barcelona as they don't dominate Champions League like Barcelona.


I think this probability is very very low.
There was only one team that could beat Manchester City and they were eliminated. (Real Madrid)
Manchester City's squad is very, very good and you see the game they are playing. Did you watch the second game and could you see Real Madrid?
I can't imagine what could happen for Inter Milan.

Manchester City will definitely win the champions league in Istanbul.

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I agree with you if Manchester City scores the first goal and tries to take control of the game Inter Milan will not be able to do anything because, unlike Manchester City, Inter Milan can't have strong attacks and play safe to save the ball that's why I think at the moment when Macnshter City scored the first goal they are going to win the game.
It is not so much about Inter Milan to be weaker in their offensive game, but Manchester City then has the option to fast counter attacks once Inter opens their defensive lines. That is what Manchester City also likes to do as they can have more variance in their game than only to possess the ball 75% or 80%. Taking the lead gives them all the options they wish for and would destroy Inter's strategy immediately.

The Inter Milan team is not weak. Inter Milan is a strong enough team. However, their attack cannot counter-attack as quickly as Manchester City. However, if you want to beat a team like City, counter-attacking is very important. However, Inter Milan's defenders must play well if they want to resist City. Because Manchester City always plays an attacking strategy. And we probably won't see much of a change in the way Manchester City play against Inter Milan. Because of this, if Inter Milan's defence does not play well, they will have to concede several goals. Hopefully, Inter Milan will be able to put up a strong resistance.

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I have checked the detailed information about Inter's matches throughout the season. And I saw that Inter used 3-5-2 flat formation like all the time. I don't think this would be a good idea against a team like Manchester City. Because by using this formation you must be ready to deal with fast attacks from the wings as well. Manchester City have just the players for doing that and I wonder how good Inter midfielders can prevent this from happening. Grealish and Silva can penetrate their defense dangerously.

Skriniar is still injured but he is expected to return by tomorrow. He would be fit enough to play in this match in this case. He is a crucial member of Inter defense. If they have him in the match they can rely on their defense more than before. By the way I said these things about the formation they use but on the other hand I don't know if trying out a new formation in a big match like this would be wise.
3-5-2 is common formation which Inzaghi used for this season even i have to say this formation is became an his pattern because i have seen Inzaghi used this formation commontly and i think this formation can be useful for the match against Manchester City because we all know this team has strong midfielder players so if Inter using 5 midfielders they can minimized the movement of Manchester City midfielder such as Kevin De Bruyne or Bernardo Silva

Regarding Skriniar condition i am not sure he will be available for the final match because til today he is still in recovery and indeed since losing Skriniar Inter had poor records but gradually Inzaghi can solved losing this player and Inzaghi has been attempts to playing Francesco Acerbi as Skriniar replacement and seems the results is very satisfying because he can able to performing well to replace Skriniar position

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I agree with you if Manchester City scores the first goal and tries to take control of the game Inter Milan will not be able to do anything because, unlike Manchester City, Inter Milan can't have strong attacks and play safe to save the ball that's why I think at the moment when Macnshter City scored the first goal they are going to win the game.
Well its true manchester city looks like the better side and if this match was not a final I could easily vouch for them that it will be an easy win for them. Inter milan can’t be underrated at this stage, they are also a very strong side and they will want to put up a good fight to challenge for this cup as well. They are cery defensive side that Manchester city should never allow them to score first else they will all just sit back and defend their goal.


If Inter Milan were able to beat Barcelona at their golden era, they can repeat it when playing against Manchester City in the final match. Manchester City and Barcelona have golden teams, dominating their domestic leagues but Manchester City can be considered weaker than Barcelona as they don't dominate Champions League like Barcelona.


I think this probability is very very low.
There was only one team that could beat Manchester City and they were eliminated. (Real Madrid)
Manchester City's squad is very, very good and you see the game they are playing. Did you watch the second game and could you see Real Madrid?
I can't imagine what could happen for Inter Milan.

Manchester City will definitely win the champions league in Istanbul.

This is a football game you shouldn’t be so sure what will happen, i can say manchester city are the better side to win but it doesn’t mean inter can not win as well. I know guardiola will definitely like to win win his first champions league trophy with man city knowing that he is playing a less weaker opponent this time around compared to other teams he has faced in previous finals so I believe this is enough reason for him to be ruthless. If he wants to win his defense will have to be at their best and try not to concede goals.

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