Casino Games or Gambling Considered Sports, really!

[noormcs5]

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When did billiard was classified as a casino game? Luck is not neccessary in billiards. The gambling part of it is what we called sportsbetting like what we do to other games like basketball or soccer.

Most games on a casino highy depends on luck and doesn't require some skill to win so they can't really be considered a sport unlike poker which involves some skill like bluffing that can make you win even if you have the bad card. And according to the link below, poker is currently the only form of gambling to be considered as a sport.

https://upswingpoker.com/is-poker-a-sport-or-a-game/

Poker is considered a sport seems odd but if so then maybe Blackjack as well, playing this game will also make you think and you also need skills for this game. I only see Poker Sports League though, no blackjack. 

Only a few countries I guess consider poker to be sports but it would be fun to see them promote poker on Olympics or Fifa. Would it be acceptable for the organization?

How do you consider Poker a skill based game and not a luck based game ?
Poker hands are completely luck based as you have no control over it. However, there is a little element of thinking and decision making, due to which some people consider it skill based.

[famososMuertos]

As many have already mentioned the philippines is a power in the game of pool and without a doubt they have the best player of the last 30 years(!?)

 The world champion Efren Reyes as someone already mentioned it (link).  Quite a character and good story as humble origins became a benchmark.

So, you think that other traditional games where you bet have that status.
What casino games are sports in your country?

In the Philippines, cock fighting has been consistently practiced by by gamblers to the point that it gets televised regularly. Though the game itself is much more of a gamble than a sport, most people view it as such. In addition, the barrier of entrance to participate in betting is easier and regulated by the government itself, which makes it truly a "sport-game" compared to most card gambling games.
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Here they also exist some spaces,  sometimes are very improvised, anyway  I went once and did not repeat the experience.

But I still respect it and I consider that for a large part it is true entertainment and they have a good time, so as long as everything is for recreation and healthy fun, it's fine.

Now about if this is sports...no comment.  

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Trying to understand your point of view...why you mention illegal gambling, it's something else...there are illegal boxing fights there are countries where gambling in any way is illegal...if a group of people gather somewhere and promote betting on any sport is illegal.

 The issue here is, in any case, to ask yourself, would you play a poker tournament every Sunday for 6 months, which involves traveling, staying in hotels, being away from the family in a federative league in your country, as other sports do for the simple fact of being the number 1 or the famous phrase compete...  

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Yes it is a pity but like poker, although less with pool game there is a tendency to relate it to gray situations.

 But fortunately for pool game you can always find very nice places to play even with a family atmosphere.

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How do you consider Poker a skill based game and not a luck based game ?
Poker hands are completely luck based as you have no control over it. However, there is a little element of thinking and decision making, due to which some people consider it skill based.

The specific fact of a hand in poker is circumstantial, each situation that you add to the positive result of your game is what gives you the ability in the long term, in poker you lose playing well but if you understand that and apply it In each situation, always without errors, the cards you receive do not always determine your success, if not how you play your cards in every situation.

[Viscore]

Skill-based casino games can probably count as sports, although it is obvious that other games such as dice, slots, and roulettes would not qualify. When we mention sports, basketball, boxing, and the likes come into play. Chess is considered a sport, although it does not involve lots of physicalities in order to be considered one, just two people using their minds to better the other. In poker or other card games, that is also the case, although luck and randomness play key roles in the success of the players in the game.

While most of the players prefer betting in sports that are played with skills and strategies, some still go with quick profiting trying to hit those jackpot prizes, and are also quick to lose their funds. That is why if we want to gamble more reasonably, gambling in sports would be the most profitable one since we got bigger chances to win especially if we know how the game is played well.

[swogerino]

Skill-based casino games can probably count as sports, although it is obvious that other games such as dice, slots, and roulettes would not qualify. When we mention sports, basketball, boxing, and the likes come into play. Chess is considered a sport, although it does not involve lots of physicalities in order to be considered one, just two people using their minds to better the other. In poker or other card games, that is also the case, although luck and randomness play key roles in the success of the players in the game.

While most of the players prefer betting in sports that are played with skills and strategies, some still go with quick profiting trying to hit those jackpot prizes, and are also quick to lose their funds. That is why if we want to gamble more reasonably, gambling in sports would be the most profitable one since we got bigger chances to win especially if we know how the game is played well.

I think that is correct and the chances are also lower to start a gambling addiction when you bet on sports or you play poker which truly involves much more skill than luck to win consistently but without forgetting that luck is also an important and determining factor.I think this week will be my last playing slots and that starting from the next one the amount of money I spend on slot machines I will start playing on sport betting because all the main events have started in August.

As for that entity acknowledging poker as a sport I completely agree with them because it takes a lot of skill to win in Texas Holdem so it can be considered a sport.

[Smartprofit]

I am against such a classification.  In my opinion, even chess cannot be considered a sport. 

Sport is a competition in which participants win due to their physical qualities.  Inflated body, instant reaction, powerful muscles - these are the qualities of real athletes. 

And for example, the competition of rappers - musicians, chess players, poker players or the game of go - is not a sports competition. 

But now there are a lot of things in the world that are not based on logic.  This is sad.

[ultrloa]

Skill-based casino games can probably count as sports, although it is obvious that other games such as dice, slots, and roulettes would not qualify. When we mention sports, basketball, boxing, and the likes come into play. Chess is considered a sport, although it does not involve lots of physicalities in order to be considered one, just two people using their minds to better the other. In poker or other card games, that is also the case, although luck and randomness play key roles in the success of the players in the game.

While most of the players prefer betting in sports that are played with skills and strategies, some still go with quick profiting trying to hit those jackpot prizes, and are also quick to lose their funds. That is why if we want to gamble more reasonably, gambling in sports would be the most profitable one since we got bigger chances to win especially if we know how the game is played well.

People try their luck on luck base game because they are trying to hit big jackpot if there's huge prize at stake. Also some are bored since they can't find good match up where they are familiar with that's why some other guys spend time just to have fun waiting for the schedule on the sports they want to bet. Gambling on sports might be profitable if you know which team are good to bet on but even though how good we are on the sports we are betting on still the game is rolling and anything can happen so there's still chance to lose upon betting specially if we didn't research if they have complete rooster on the game.

[Jemzx00]

I am against such a classification.  In my opinion, even chess cannot be considered a sport. 

Sport is a competition in which participants win due to their physical qualities.  Inflated body, instant reaction, powerful muscles - these are the qualities of real athletes. 

And for example, the competition of rappers - musicians, chess players, poker players or the game of go - is not a sports competition. 

But now there are a lot of things in the world that are not based on logic.  This is sad.

Unfortunately, sports are now not limited to physical activities but rather it also involves skill-based games such as games. In this scenario, chess, pool and card games can now be included on sports classification.

Also, if you think about it, there are massive games that is also considered as sports that doesn't require physical exertion such as E-sports. Various things have through times and we should be able to adjust along with it.

[virasog]

Skill-based casino games can probably count as sports, although it is obvious that other games such as dice, slots, and roulettes would not qualify. When we mention sports, basketball, boxing, and the likes come into play. Chess is considered a sport, although it does not involve lots of physicalities in order to be considered one, just two people using their minds to better the other. In poker or other card games, that is also the case, although luck and randomness play key roles in the success of the players in the game.

While most of the players prefer betting in sports that are played with skills and strategies, some still go with quick profiting trying to hit those jackpot prizes, and are also quick to lose their funds. That is why if we want to gamble more reasonably, gambling in sports would be the most profitable one since we got bigger chances to win especially if we know how the game is played well.

People try their luck on luck base game because they are trying to hit big jackpot if there's huge prize at stake. Also some are bored since they can't find good match up where they are familiar with that's why some other guys spend time just to have fun waiting for the schedule on the sports they want to bet. Gambling on sports might be profitable if you know which team are good to bet on but even though how good we are on the sports we are betting on still the game is rolling and anything can happen so there's still chance to lose upon betting specially if we didn't research if they have complete rooster on the game.

If anyone wants to win the jackpot then they should only play gambling games because those are the only ways to earn big amounts.
With sports betting, the odds for the favorite teams are not something that can make you a millionaire and for the low-rank teams the odds may be good but the risk of losing the bet is more because the low-profile teams usually lose the match and you are at a risk if you are betting on them.

[Kakmakr]

I seriously do not think "Poker" should be a Olympic Sport, because it simply is not practical. You cannot have a spectator sport for people to only cheer when the final result is shown.  

You also cannot have a crowd of people cheering for a player... and seeing what their cards are.. and what other people's cards are.... without someone screaming at the top of their voice.. what the other players hand is.  

[Reid]

Poker is a competitive game although there's not much physical thing that will happen in it. But the mental though, loads of it is needed if you want to win the game especially in the bluffing strategy, reading the deck, and predict the outcome.
Billiard on the other hand should have been considered a sport long time ago. There's some physical movements that was needed in it and then also a mountain of mental strategies to think about the next move or where you want the ball to go.
Billiards is like a sport here in my place already. Imagine standing up for a long time, that's exhausting.

[danherbias07]

Locally, Billiards is famous in our country. All thanks to Efren "Bata" Reyes who uplifts the world of billiards to many fans of the game.
You can see the game being played almost everywhere. From the garage of the house to the streets.
There was this one game too almost the same as billiards but it uses what we call "pitsa" which is sort of hockey ball-like. Flat and round.
You can also see that on the streets of Manila.
It's already considered a sport to us way back in the 80-90s but only for the players and not officially or because it was never in the Olympics.

[harizen]

How do you consider Poker a skill based game and not a luck based game ?
Poker hands are completely luck based as you have no control over it. However, there is a little element of thinking and decision making, due to which some people consider it skill based.

Saying poker was completely "luck-based" seems not appropriate.

If everything here is just about luck, then there should be no such thing as "professional" poker players. Some poker players are called professional in the first place because they can able to think of various strategies to use in different situations regardless of how good or bad their card is. There are even bad cards that can turn the table and that's because of good skills.

Back to the topic, if these popular casino games like poker are now considered sports by some countries, then it means it's getting more appreciation. Aside from that, the fact that it was considered sports means it meets the criteria of becoming as a sport or becomes eligible to be considered by that.

[Mame89]

Skill-based casino games can probably count as sports, although it is obvious that other games such as dice, slots, and roulettes would not qualify. When we mention sports, basketball, boxing, and the likes come into play. Chess is considered a sport, although it does not involve lots of physicalities in order to be considered one, just two people using their minds to better the other. In poker or other card games, that is also the case, although luck and randomness play key roles in the success of the players in the game.

While most of the players prefer betting in sports that are played with skills and strategies, some still go with quick profiting trying to hit those jackpot prizes, and are also quick to lose their funds. That is why if we want to gamble more reasonably, gambling in sports would be the most profitable one since we got bigger chances to win especially if we know how the game is played well.

Of course, with the calculation of sports betting research, this is indeed the right one for me who has minimal risk. The risk depends on us who will know which team will put a strategy in how that can make us sure to bet small or large amounts. there are many good sports teams that make a big win reference.?

[Jemzx00]

How do you consider Poker a skill based game and not a luck based game ?
Poker hands are completely luck based as you have no control over it. However, there is a little element of thinking and decision making, due to which some people consider it skill based.

Saying poker was completely "luck-based" seems not appropriate.

If everything here is just about luck, then there should be no such thing as "professional" poker players. Some poker players are called professional in the first place because they can able to think of various strategies to use in different situations regardless of how good or bad their card is. There are even bad cards that can turn the table and that's because of good skills.

Back to the topic, if these popular casino games like poker are now considered sports by some countries, then it means it's getting more appreciation. Aside from that, the fact that it was considered sports means it meets the criteria of becoming as a sport or becomes eligible to be considered by that.

Yup, you cannot categorize Poker as completely as a Luck-Based games rather it is a combination of skill and luck as the cards that you'll be receiving is the real deciding factor whether you win or not.

Professional poker players are there as they are able to turn things the other way either they a bad card or a good card. However, they still lose once they encounter someone who has an incredible card which is purely based on luck.

[TimeTeller]

How do you consider Poker a skill based game and not a luck based game ?
Poker hands are completely luck based as you have no control over it. However, there is a little element of thinking and decision making, due to which some people consider it skill based.

Saying poker was completely "luck-based" seems not appropriate.

If everything here is just about luck, then there should be no such thing as "professional" poker players. Some poker players are called professional in the first place because they can able to think of various strategies to use in different situations regardless of how good or bad their card is. There are even bad cards that can turn the table and that's because of good skills.

Back to the topic, if these popular casino games like poker are now considered sports by some countries, then it means it's getting more appreciation. Aside from that, the fact that it was considered sports means it meets the criteria of becoming as a sport or becomes eligible to be considered by that.

Yup, you cannot categorize Poker as completely as a Luck-Based games rather it is a combination of skill and luck as the cards that you'll be receiving is the real deciding factor whether you win or not.

Professional poker players are there as they are able to turn things the other way either they a bad card or a good card. However, they still lose once they encounter someone who has an incredible card which is purely based on luck.

I can also say that poker is not based completely on luck.
As we have seen, these poker players have certain skills that they can win not just because of luck but with their skills.
But these skills are acquired throughout the years of playing this game.
This is why some of the top professional poker players are really doing good in this game and making this game as their source of living.

[AbuBhakar]

How do you consider Poker a skill based game and not a luck based game ?
Poker hands are completely luck based as you have no control over it. However, there is a little element of thinking and decision making, due to which some people consider it skill based.

Saying poker was completely "luck-based" seems not appropriate.

If everything here is just about luck, then there should be no such thing as "professional" poker players. Some poker players are called professional in the first place because they can able to think of various strategies to use in different situations regardless of how good or bad their card is. There are even bad cards that can turn the table and that's because of good skills.

Back to the topic, if these popular casino games like poker are now considered sports by some countries, then it means it's getting more appreciation. Aside from that, the fact that it was considered sports means it meets the criteria of becoming as a sport or becomes eligible to be considered by that.

Yup, you cannot categorize Poker as completely as a Luck-Based games rather it is a combination of skill and luck as the cards that you'll be receiving is the real deciding factor whether you win or not.

Professional poker players are there as they are able to turn things the other way either they a bad card or a good card. However, they still lose once they encounter someone who has an incredible card which is purely based on luck.

I can also say that poker is not based completely on luck.
As we have seen, these poker players have certain skills that they can win not just because of luck but with their skills.
But these skills are acquired throughout the years of playing this game.
This is why some of the top professional poker players are really doing good in this game and making this game as their source of living.

Yes, There are a lot of times that professional players like Phil Ivey won a pot with a bad hands because he was known for being so good on player that's why his opponents always assumed he always got a good hands but in reality, he is just good on prediction and mind reading which doesn't involved luck at all. He is losing sometimes and that might be the luck kicking but Phil Ivey can dominate any table anytime he wants because he has skills and not luck. He earned respect because of his skills and not by being lucky so definitely poker is not a luck based game at all because a professional poker player can beat a winning hand with a garbage hand by playing the opponents mind.

[skarais]

I can also say that poker is not based completely on luck.
As we have seen, these poker players have certain skills that they can win not just because of luck but with their skills.
But these skills are acquired throughout the years of playing this game.
This is why some of the top professional poker players are really doing good in this game and making this game as their source of living.

I think that is also true, poker is a game which is based on skill as well as luck and it is different from some games which are totally based on luck. We're not talking about a game against the system, poker is a game against the skill of other players and it's great to play in land-based casinos.

I don't know how poker can actually be interpreted as a mental sport, is it because the players are fighting each other's skills or what?

[aioc]

I can also say that poker is not based completely on luck.
As we have seen, these poker players have certain skills that they can win not just because of luck but with their skills.
But these skills are acquired throughout the years of playing this game.
This is why some of the top professional poker players are really doing good in this game and making this game as their source of living.

All skills in sports can be acquired over the years you don't become an expert in just a few years there's a level to it like chess where you have a rating and you compile it through years of playing and developing your skills and based on this article dedicated to poker

Poker is the only form of gambling that can be considered a sport,....Poker does require physical exertion, alertness, stamina, and general fitness. The physical grind of a live tournament like the WSOP Main Event is real, and the players that make it to the late stages of that tournament endure days of physical (and mental) stress to do so.

https://upswingpoker.com/is-poker-a-sport-or-a-game/

I'm not a poker player but if the experts in poker and the players and those involved in poker say that it is a sport then it is a sport they even have a tournament for it.

[TopT3ns]

I can also say that poker is not based completely on luck.
As we have seen, these poker players have certain skills that they can win not just because of luck but with their skills.
But these skills are acquired throughout the years of playing this game.
This is why some of the top professional poker players are really doing good in this game and making this game as their source of living.

I think that is also true, poker is a game which is based on skill as well as luck and it is different from some games which are totally based on luck. We're not talking about a game against the system, poker is a game against the skill of other players and it's great to play in land-based casinos.

I don't know how poker can actually be interpreted as a mental sport, is it because the players are fighting each other's skills or what?

I think because poker has different types of cards and can have a value from high to small so when playing poker it all depends on whether the calculation is appropriate or not and sometimes it is very difficult to guess the cards that are owned by the opponent because of the display cards that are issued. by the dealer only a few cards so it requires a very high brain power to think what cards the enemy has.

[tomos81]

I know Poker is well known as a very strong player. And the skill is gaining massive amount which is much more than other players. They play this game with great skill and their skills bring them victory. They did not acquire this skill in a day but it took them a whole year to gain experience. Playing this game of poker so well that it outlasts other fortunes.