OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison

[OrangeFren]

⚠️ There's an ongoing phishing scam against MajesticBank.sc. The phishing domain ends with .co

Please always verify the TLD or use OrangeFren.com to avoid getting phished

There is majesticbank[dot]de too, I don't think it belongs to majesticbank.sc

MajesticBank.de is legit. I just confirmed with their admin. Although they don't really use it anywhere.

[dkbit98]

⚠️ There's an ongoing phishing scam against MajesticBank.sc. The phishing domain ends with .co

Please always verify the TLD or use OrangeFren.com to avoid getting phished

I wonder why this SCAM phishing link have the same ref code mgzySX you are using on legit MajesticBank exchange
There is always a possibility that scammers could attack Orangefren website also, and on your website there is no information about legit exchange links/domains.
Maybe you should think about improving that somehow.

[OrangeFren]

I wonder why this SCAM phishing link have the same ref code mgzySX you are using on legit MajesticBank exchange
There is always a possibility that scammers could attack Orangefren website also, and on your website there is no information about legit exchange links/domains.
Maybe you should think about improving that somehow.

It's the same ref code because they tried to convince us to replace our link to MajesticBank with theirs. It almost worked, except, we never talk to MajesticBank over email. Good effort though.

As to your suggestion - good point. Working on it 

[OrangeFren]

We're happy to share today we rolled out two new upgrades to the homepage.

• Only available pairs can be selected.
• Only available amounts can be selected.

Meaning, no more wasting your time going to the next page, only to find out the pair or amount aren't available.

[OrangeFren]

We've added links to each service's Bitcointalk thread, to make it easier to quickly learn more about them in a reputable source.

[examplens]

We've added links to each service's Bitcointalk thread, to make it easier to quickly learn more about them in a reputable source.

I support the idea that exchanges are directed to Bitcointalk as a place where they will present themselves and give possible answers to potential users. If you would reach a sufficiently respectable place in this domain, the idea of ​​a mandatory ANN on the forum as a condition for listing would be welcome.

[OrangeFren]

We've added links to each service's Bitcointalk thread, to make it easier to quickly learn more about them in a reputable source.

I support the idea that exchanges are directed to Bitcointalk as a place where they will present themselves and give possible answers to potential users. If you would reach a sufficiently respectable place in this domain, the idea of ​​a mandatory ANN on the forum as a condition for listing would be welcome.

It will be a requirement going forward.

[dkbit98]

We've added links to each service's Bitcointalk thread, to make it easier to quickly learn more about them in a reputable source.

Good idea!
I think this will bring more activity and conversation in forum topics of those exchanges.
Bitlist.co service is using something similar but they also added number of posts in topics, to show ones that are more active.

[OrangeFren]

We're happy to share Swapuz joined our OrangeFren Guarantee programme 



Furthermore: starting today we are now providing info about whether an exchange uses their own liquidity to complete trades. We encourage users to choose either "Own liquidity" or "Mixed liquidity" to help strengthen the competition to CEXes as well as have a better guarantee the exchange won't violate its ToS.

[dkbit98]

Furthermore: starting today we are now providing info about whether an exchange uses their own liquidity to complete trades. We encourage users to choose either "Own liquidity" or "Mixed liquidity" to help strengthen the competition to CEXes as well as have a better guarantee the exchange won't violate its ToS.

Great idea, but how can you be sure they are using their own liquidity or not, unless you are constantly monitoring this?
We know eXch is using their own liquidity, that is stated on the page bottom, and updated on regular bases, but I haven't seen that on other exchanges.
I have my doubts about ChangeNow using their own liquidity...

[OrangeFren]

Great idea, but how can you be sure they are using their own liquidity or not, unless you are constantly monitoring this?
We know eXch is using their own liquidity, that is stated on the page bottom, and updated on regular bases, but I haven't seen that on other exchanges.
I have my doubts about ChangeNow using their own liquidity...

Indeed we're not yet 100% sure for all the services listed. But the plan is to monitor the services as well as collect feedback from our users

[paid2]

Forwarding a message with some questions which was posted in the OrangeFren's campaign thread:

You have mentioned no-kyc, but I also read that exchange involved in the transaction may still choose to ask kyc sometimes and the transaction would still need kyc verification for it to successful pass through.  So in case if this happens, will someone's funds still get stuck there or one will still be having an option of canceling the transaction to get funds back (of course without swap this time)?  Can you explain what actually will happen?

It depends of the exchange selected if I'm not wrong. By the way, some of them will never require KYC or SoF (like eXch).
But in case you don't know, you should have a look at the OrangeFren's guarantee:

How do I know the exchanges won't scam me? What is the OrangeFren Guarantee?

We entered an agreement with some exchanges wherein we are able to refund you using their money if they scam you. This feature is called the OrangeFren Guarantee. It applies to exchanges that have a green text about the Guarantee next to their name on the results page.

The OrangeFren Guarantee only applies if an exchange violates its own policies. Some exchanges have a policy that allows them to require you identify yourself (KYC) and the where you got your coins (SoF). Those exchanges have a yellow warning about their policies on the results page. The OrangeFren Guarantee does not refund users of exchanges that have this warning if they demand your undergo their verification.

Isn't your competition with AtomicDEX? Yes I know, you are actually just facilitator of transaction whereas AtomicDEX is sort of decentralized exchange.  I also found AtomicDEX was one of the only rare DEX exchanges providing Eth (or other popular chain coins or tokens like Monero, Solano, Doge, etc.) to legacy, segwit, taproot BTC options (and vice versa) direct conversions and now found Orangefren an addition.  I haven't tried AtomicDex or Orangefren yet but it seems transacting on AtomicDex may not be as seamless as Ogangefren though.

Correct me if I am misinterpreting or missing something of relevance here.

I don't think there's any competition, OrangeFren is just an aggregator of services and exchanges. However, I think OrangeFren will reply or clarify if necessary.

[OrangeFren]

It depends of the exchange selected if I'm not wrong. By the way, some of them will never require KYC or SoF (like eXch).

That's exactly right. Some services may end up requiring info from you. For those services we always have a warning on the results page.

Additionally, if you're only interested in services that promise not to ask for KYC you can filter the results down using the link on the top right which reads "Show only never-KYC" or append "?kyc_policy=never" to the results page URL, like so https://orangefren.com/results/0.05/BTC@BTC/XMR@XMR/?kyc_policy=never

I don't think there's any competition, OrangeFren is just an aggregator of services and exchanges. However, I think OrangeFren will reply or clarify if necessary.

That's right, as well. OrangeFren.com is a directory with a search function. Our closest competitor would probably be kycnot.me, although we partner on a lot of projects and serve slightly different needs. We might actually list AtomicDEX at some point.

[LoyceV]

Additionally, if you're only interested in services that promise not to ask for KYC you can filter the results down using the link on the top right which reads "Show only never-KYC" or append "?kyc_policy=never" to the results page URL, like so https://orangefren.com/results/0.05/BTC@BTC/XMR@XMR/?kyc_policy=never

I checked the first exchange from this list:

2.1 Hellex reserves the right to request valid government-issued identification documents from your country of residence

That makes your never-KYC list look like it's just marketing.

[OrangeFren]

Additionally, if you're only interested in services that promise not to ask for KYC you can filter the results down using the link on the top right which reads "Show only never-KYC" or append "?kyc_policy=never" to the results page URL, like so https://orangefren.com/results/0.05/BTC@BTC/XMR@XMR/?kyc_policy=never

I checked the first exchange from this list:

2.1 Hellex reserves the right to request valid government-issued identification documents from your country of residence

That makes your never-KYC list look like it's just marketing.

Exchanges don't always actually have the same policies as their ToS. One example in the other direction is ChangeNow which has (had?) ToS that stated they offered no KYC refunds, yet they didn't. That's why on OrangeFren.com you'll find a little warning about them being known to violate their own ToS.

[OrangeFren]

Stats for October on OrangeFren.com 👀

XMR: 47.81%
BTC: 42.46%
LTC: 3.86%
ETH: 2.75%
USDT: 1.21%
SOL: 0.45%
USDC: 0.23%
BTCLN: 0.12%
ZANO: 0.10%

[OrangeFren]

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[examplens]

Indeed we're not yet 100% sure for all the services listed. But the plan is to monitor the services as well as collect feedback from our users

How realistic is it that at your request you will receive a confirmation or verification of the reserves of some exchanges?
Three different users can see the same thing quite differently, I don't know how reliable the method is collecting feedback from users.

[OrangeFren]

Indeed we're not yet 100% sure for all the services listed. But the plan is to monitor the services as well as collect feedback from our users

How realistic is it that at your request you will receive a confirmation or verification of the reserves of some exchanges?
Three different users can see the same thing quite differently, I don't know how reliable the method is collecting feedback from users.

Do you mean how likely is it that an exchange will provide a proof of reserves upon request?

I think most that actually have their own reserves are quite happy to do it.

[OrangeFren]

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