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September 24, 2022, 10:46:09 PM
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Afaik most of new casino like this usually don’t invest much on public bug bounty program so what you are doing is just a volunteer work and you don’t need to demand them to pay you.
Yes, most new casinos do not have bug bounty programs. But, generally, when someone reports a serious vulnerability which may put customers funds or data to risk, they usually give a reward to the reporter as a gesture of gratitude (the reward can be in any form like special badge or membership, not necessarily money).

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Meaning that they are already aware and probably fixed so your warning here is already not valid. Your negative comment is an obvious retaliation for not paying to your volunteer service.
This is what bug hunters usually do. They publicly disclose the vulnerability after being sure it has been fixed.
Vulnerabilities have been found on the world's most popular websites (Google, fb..). So, OP should not take this personally.

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September 24, 2022, 10:52:11 PM
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Basically, anyone can deposit, play and withdraw under normal conditions without performing KYC.  So I think there is no problem announcing that they don't do KYC.  It is also part of the marketing, telling people one of the unique features of the casino.  KYC will be implemented when they found an account suspicious.  So it is part of an investigation when the situation isn't "normal".

I understood your point correctly and I don't have any problem with that either, kyc is only requested when there is suspicion with the account and the account is under investigation that way kyc can be demanded for, and this is the practice with most casinos this days so that is understood that kyc is somehow part of the site but not mandatory to all players unless under strange behavior from the player.
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September 24, 2022, 11:07:32 PM
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welcome to bitcointalk
op you said no need kyc for your casino site . this sound is really cool but i seen many details talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service . what do you mean actually about this ? i don’t know why your site keep kyc and AML policy on  terms of service but you ask no kyc on this topic headline ?


We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

The above post is the statement of the team towards KYC.
So at the moment, they are not requiring KYC, unless they suspected you from violating their ToS.
However, with the scenarios that we have observed in a lot of gambling sites, they sometimes require KYC even if you haven't violated any of their protocols,
but just because you got big winnings. Now, up to you how you will trust the site about their statement on this aspect.


Its already given from all casinos if you've won a huge amount you have to undergo KYC  and if they suspect that you are cheating by having multiple accounts to abuse bonuses you'll also have to undergo KYC, all the casinos that implement that do not promote themselves as a no KYC if you deposit and play as long as you do not fall in these situations I mentioned.

Players might think that you will implement NO KYC if you won a big amount or have multiple accounts because you are promoting yourself to a NO KYC casino which is a half-truth, you want to have an advantage over other casinos when your terms is not different from all the others.
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September 24, 2022, 11:10:41 PM
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Basically, anyone can deposit, play and withdraw under normal conditions without performing KYC.  So I think there is no problem announcing that they don't do KYC.  It is also part of the marketing, telling people one of the unique features of the casino.  KYC will be implemented when they found an account suspicious.  So it is part of an investigation when the situation isn't "normal".

I understood your point correctly and I don't have any problem with that either, kyc is only requested when there is suspicion with the account and the account is under investigation that way kyc can be demanded for, and this is the practice with most casinos this days so that is understood that kyc is somehow part of the site but not mandatory to all players unless under strange behavior from the player.

I also understand where you are coming from.  Some casino exploits this kind of situation wherein they implement KYC on an account that happens to withdraw a huge amount of winnings just to prevent the player from bagging that huge amount in a "legal" means.  We have seen lots of cases like these, even though some accounts are clean, they still try their chance to rob those players of their winnings.

Hopefully, we won't see Euphirabet.io use this KYC to exploit their players and prove to us that they are indeed a reputable Casino company that we can entrust with our bankroll no matter how huge or small it is.

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September 24, 2022, 11:34:28 PM
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Just like the rest.They have the same or identical terms and conditions which they would really be asking for some verification whenever they do see suspicious activity on a certain user which is something not that shocking and any platforms that we do have today could really asked out those verifications if ever they do see those things.Its not misleading just like on what others been saying
because majority of platforms that we do have in the market doesn't ask out verifications before you can play.You could directly play without sending out various informations
but on the case where there are things which arent right then they do have the full rights on doing so.

I think it very much is misleading and honestly false advertising as well. If a casino says that they do not do KYC then thats that. No KYC. Saying "We do not do KYC" but then saying "Surprise! Do KYC or we will not give you your funds back" is very much misleading. Personally, I would not trust any online gambling casino that advertises like that. It does not seem like a serious casino to me. More like a copy/paste casino with misleading advertisments.

I would rather have a KYC casino than a dishonest casino.
Impressions are common or would really be ending up like this.Who does want to be get fooled? No one,right? Its true that i would be better playing on a site which is honest at least rather than on something
misleading or just making use of click baits just for them to get some attention or recognition but they dont really know that it does really give out that kind of negative feels and impressions
on having this kind of proclaiming or announcement about their site.If they do say about no KYC then it should not have that kyc and its not something situational
just like the rest but it turns out that they do have that way.

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September 24, 2022, 11:35:12 PM
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In general, the discussion about KYC is pointless.
It's absolutely obvious that this is a deception.
And in this case, the Euphoriabet did very well !
They initially cheated, already in advertising.
Making clear the course of further relationships with customers.

It is possible to draw the right conclusions, and immediately add them to the black list so as not to be deceived in the future.
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September 25, 2022, 01:07:07 AM
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welcome to the forum,

how many customers did you get after 4 months create the site?,

and, all these 4 months, what are you doing?. where are you promoted?,

e-sports are not familiar on here, you have to hard work to promote e-sports, but from what I see on how another site promotes the unpopular game, they not focusing what his selling but how they make the people come to the site first, after many costumers come they begin to introduce the product.

Any chance to add other crypto as an option?
I just see USDT and BTC which I think enough sufficient for the new gambling site. and better to think again If adding any currency which makes the server hang up.

Why do you say there is NO-KYC when on your website you claim that you are collecting phone numbers, ID cards, addresses, and other documents from your customers?
Maybe his mean for withdrawing and depositing where is very crucial on this forum. If more, they have to collect that.

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I make deposit, and money not come.
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September 25, 2022, 02:13:34 AM
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Welcome to the forum mate.
The site’s design and colour theme is great, and seeing “NO KYC” making me more anxious to try the site.
Regarding the 100% deposit bonus, what are the wagering requirements? You should have mentioned that in the OP.

I make deposit, and money not come.
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Is your balance credited till now? Have you tried to contact their support at site? It’s really not cool if the deposits and the withdrawals are not automatic.
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September 25, 2022, 02:50:58 AM
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Welcome to the forum. It's nice seeing new site is created as an option for gamblers here to play. Anyway, the design of your site looks good and it works fast.

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
That means it's not completely a no kyc platform because you might ask for it with the reasons you specified. Many gamblers prefer a no kyc casino thus it's misleading to claim your site has no kyc at all.

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Welcome to the forum mate.
The site’s design and colour theme is great, and seeing “NO KYC” making me more anxious to try the site.
Regarding the 100% deposit bonus, what are the wagering requirements? You should have mentioned that in the OP.

I make deposit, and money not come.
btc and usdt....
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1AyWkosqGYSVPGsNhkNKKjyRwqMA43hSAd


Is your balance credited till now? Have you tried to contact their support at site? It’s really not cool if the deposits and the withdrawals are not automatic.
Please update us with your deposit status mate.


now it's come. but withdrawal not auto..
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We accept all countries
Thanks for the answer. That calms me down a lot. Too bad my other questions didn't get answered, but it's okay. Maybe they don't want to reveal anything about it yet. I can understand that.  Smiley
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September 25, 2022, 11:54:11 AM
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This website is the least secure one I've ever seen.
After finding a serious vulnerability, I reported it to their team.
I obviously can't expect bug bounty rewards when the website doesn't have such a program, but this is the first website I've ever bug hunted on that didn't pay ANYTHING.
The vulnerability made me able to generate infinite USDT+BTC.
My advice is to avoid this site. You could easily lose your crypto due to a malicious actor (If the site bankroll is cleaned).

Well, if what you are talking about is really true, then what you have discovered can be considered a critical vulnerability, which of course is the most sensitive for the existence of casinos and if they treat security issues in this way, it is better to stay away, you never know what other bugs there are on the carpet.

Security is too important because we are risking our funds here. It will be best if they will do something about this matter right away. We all know that a casino site with security issues could easily have a ruined reputation. If they want to build a strong foundation of trust, they have to work on it.

I believe KYC should be mandatory for all sites of this nature. It would not be much effecting and attractive for new members without KYC. Also, I would OP buy a copper member account as well. Running a market campaign would also be mandatory for your site. I hope you can understand my point.


Yes, of course you are right, but at the moment there is no such possibility as to pass KYC after registering in the user profile, this is possible only after a request from the administration of the online casino euphoriabet.io , the only option available is to enable 2FA change your password and add your date of birth.
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September 25, 2022, 05:21:53 PM
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I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair
This is practiced by most of the casinos, even most of the reputed casinos. We have seen this a lot of times here. I won't be really surprised because casinos want to confiscate users' money if they win big lol. I wouldn't recommend you use this site or any other site but if you are not going to give it a try, you won't know how they are. I don't try new sites unless they are offering very much attractive and lucrative bonuses.

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September 25, 2022, 05:29:05 PM
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I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair

You can say it is unfair if they have no terms related to KYC but if there is a term related to KYC, it is completely fair.
As what said by Little Mouse above, it is common thing in casinos where players are asked for KYC for huge win especially if the win come with low wagering activity.
If you say it in general perspective regardless the existing of the terms, means that you want to say that all casinos are unfair. Is it what you wanna say?

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September 25, 2022, 05:52:27 PM
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About kyc, we have answered this before several times, if you want to find an answer, read other posts, do not ask the same question 10 times

I looked at all your posts carefully, but I can't find the one where you answered these questions:

I believe they had answered the question. And one of the replies even pasted their TOS clause regarding the KYC. I even quoted that clause too.

That's only part of my question, I'd still like to hear the rest from them.

As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.

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September 25, 2022, 06:07:47 PM
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As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.

Yeah, true indeed but this is also true that KYC isn't mandatory there either. They only require KYC if they find anything suspicious or if they are forced through legal entities. As I said, this is common practice in online casino industry. There are very few casinos which don't require KYC at all. Macaw casino is one them which I'm aware of. Can't remember if there are more too.

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September 25, 2022, 07:01:53 PM
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About kyc, we have answered this before several times, if you want to find an answer, read other posts, do not ask the same question 10 times

I looked at all your posts carefully, but I can't find the one where you answered these questions:

I believe they had answered the question. And one of the replies even pasted their TOS clause regarding the KYC. I even quoted that clause too.
As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.
I totally agree with you, now the question is which should gamblers really trust to pay their winnings without problems between a licensed casino and the unlicensed one?

Licensed casinos require gamblers to pass kyc verification, and this, many gamblers don't like, but their chances of turning scam is low.
Meanwhile on the other hand, unlicensed casinos do not require gamblers to pass kyc verification, and this almost all gamblers love, but the chances of this type of casino turn scam in the future is lightly higher compared to the first one I mention.
Which would people really prefer?

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September 25, 2022, 07:16:24 PM
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I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair
This is practiced by most of the casinos, even most of the reputed casinos. We have seen this a lot of times here. I won't be really surprised because casinos want to confiscate users' money if they win big lol. I wouldn't recommend you use this site or any other site but if you are not going to give it a try, you won't know how they are. I don't try new sites unless they are offering very much attractive and lucrative bonuses.
Currently, the number of online casino sites are not less. New sites are constantly being created. There are several things a gambler needs to keep in mind when signing up for a new site. KYC is an important thing which is not safe to do on any sites. Moreover, there is no guarantee that such Casino account will not be closed after winning a large jackpot. But if there is such a confusion then it is better to do KYC if it is worth gambling otherwise it is better to avoid it.

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