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September 22, 2022, 08:06:40 PM
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September 22, 2022, 08:11:30 PM
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Welcome to Bitcointalk forum.
Please I would advise to buy a copper member account to display all your images and best attract users to contribute or make comments on your thread.

Please I would also want you to briefly write more about your project as this thread is empty, your write up is not convincing enough to get attention despite the kyc free platform.

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I haven't really looked into the content of the site yet, but I recommend hiring a manager who can manage the announcement. This way it comes across as simple and cheap. Players are very critical, this way you run the risk that players choose not to visit the site because the announcement looks too simple. I assume they are new to the forum, so I think they still have every chance to make a nice project out of it. Has anyone played on the site yet?

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September 22, 2022, 09:05:12 PM
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I haven't looked into the content of the site yet, but I recommend hiring a manager who can manage the announcement. This way it comes across as simple and cheap. Players are very critical, this way you run the risk that players choose not to visit the site because the announcement looks too simple. I assume they are new to the forum, so I think they still have every chance to make a nice project out of it. Has anyone played on the site yet?
Most of the established and reputable casinos in the forum today started on a similar note with ops, so I will like us to be friendly with ops and try to share our feedback and suggestion in a way that will motivate them to stay and build their presence on this forum.

You have suggested rightly for them to hire a professional manager to manage their presence on the forum but as a new casino, there can start by managing themselves for now but should update the thread with all the necessary information as suggested by other users here.
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September 22, 2022, 09:13:39 PM
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Looking at the site, you”ll see the matches right away and it’s really good to have a site that focuses more on the Esports. This site looks interesting, I’ve been following the Esports recently since I’m a player too, and having this site can help me think if I’m going to place a bet or not. Any chance to add other crypto as an option? I also suggest to have a marketing campaign here which can boost this site.

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September 22, 2022, 09:19:13 PM
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Euphoriabet.io NO KYC Crypto Esports Betting  and Roulette

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)




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euphoriabet welcome to Bitcointalk forum.
Why do you say there is NO-KYC when on your website you claim that you are collecting phone numbers, ID cards, addresses, and other documents from your customers?
I don't see that you have any gambling license and I think there is high risk of using any new gambling website like this.

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September 22, 2022, 09:33:30 PM
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Euphoriabet.io NO KYC Crypto Esports Betting  and Roulette

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

Good snip!

This might be just those typical casinos that we do have today but the thing that they arent making claims or announcement on having no KYC because mentioning out this word should really be applied
and shouldnt be seen on terms and conditions.
Just using up that NO KYC word just for the sake of getting some attention on this forum or the community? You would rather get bad impressions on boasting up something but totally
opposite on whats stated on TOS.
Lastly, site design isnt that too good plus those fonts been used does hurt my eyes.  Cool

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September 22, 2022, 09:45:36 PM
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Well, welcome here.

As much as I admire those casino that doesn't implement KYC I think you're not a registered entity on that instance, am I right? By the way, where can we find your roulette game? It's unavailable on the site and can't find it for some reason.

Just using up that NO KYC word just for the sake of getting some attention on this forum or the community?
No KYC but will request it anyways.
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^That is a good catch.
When every time there is a new gambling casino introduced here in the forum we should always check the ToS not only what they post it here and claim they are a NO-KYC gambling casino. Probably now we begin to doubt this gambling casino and we hope that they give an explanation about this, it could be a loophole for the gamblers to become their fund stuck if they don't comply with KYC which is a very common strategy for those shady gambling casinos.
However, it will probably be a mistake too.
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Welcome to Bitcointalk forum and hope you enjoy your stay in here. I hope that this casino's forum account will remain active in this forum to reply when a gambler have problems or issues about the casino. Copper membership is bought but I didn't find it attractive compared to other casinos that are also newly launched in this forum. As what I have read in some posts/replies where there's NO KYC but request anyway is a bit misleading in my opinion. No one would want that or like that kind of casino where they will know about this casino where NO KYC is needed but will request anyway depends on the situation.

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Welcome to the forum @Euphoriabet.io.

I look at the site and found that the site is mainly an esports betting, is there any chance in the future that you will be implementing sports betting and Casino games?  

I haven't really looked into the content of the site yet, but I recommend hiring a manager who can manage the announcement. This way it comes across as simple and cheap. Players are very critical, this way you run the risk that players choose not to visit the site because the announcement looks too simple. I assume they are new to the forum, so I think they still have every chance to make a nice project out of it. Has anyone played on the site yet?

The site is quite simple, but it looks good. They are into esports betting if I am not mistaken.  They have 100% bonus available to claim for the first deposit with 20x wagering requirement.  They also have certain promotions and surprisingly they have roulette game.


Euphoriabet.io NO KYC Crypto Esports Betting  and Roulette

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

Good snip!

This might be just those typical casinos that we do have today but the thing that they arent making claims or announcement on having no KYC because mentioning out this word should really be applied
and shouldnt be seen on terms and conditions.
Just using up that NO KYC word just for the sake of getting some attention on this forum or the community? You would rather get bad impressions on boasting up something but totally
opposite on whats stated on TOS.
Lastly, site design isnt that too good plus those fonts been used does hurt my eyes.  Cool

Well they don't require KYC unless they found the account suspicious.

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"Know Your Customer" and money laundering policy (hereafter the AML/KYC policy) is intended to prevent possible risks of the Website becoming implicated in any type of illegal activity.

Verification is not required on our site, but in some cases we may request it

International regulations require the Website to implement effective internal procedures and mechanisms to prevent money laundering, financing terrorism, trafficking narcotics or people, distributing weapons, corruption and bribery or the participation of the User in any other suspicious activity.

The procedure for identity confirmation demands that the User provide the Website with reliable documentation or information (ID card, driver license, passport, bank correspondence or service bill). Requested documents must be sent by User during 3 days since request made if no third-party services are involved (e.g. Bank, payment system). For the purposes of the AML/KYC policy, the Website has the right to gather and process the User's personal information.

The Administration has the right to check the identity of the User on an ongoing basis, particularly in cases in which the User's personal information changes or suspicious actions are performed. In addition, the Administration has the right to request updated documents from the User regardless of the fact that the User has confirmed he's identity in the past.

The User's personal information will be collected, stored and protected in accordance with the Privacy Policy. After the User's identity is confirmed, the Service has the right to absolve itself of potential judicial responsibility in situations when the Site is used to perform illegal activity.

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September 22, 2022, 10:31:22 PM
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Just like the rest.They have the same or identical terms and conditions which they would really be asking for some verification whenever they do see suspicious activity on a certain user which is something not that shocking and any platforms that we do have today could really asked out those verifications if ever they do see those things.Its not misleading just like on what others been saying
because majority of platforms that we do have in the market doesn't ask out verifications before you can play.You could directly play without sending out various informations
but on the case where there are things which arent right then they do have the full rights on doing so.

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September 22, 2022, 11:04:20 PM
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Euphoriabet.io NO KYC Crypto Esports Betting  and Roulette

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed
This is the reason why we should always check ToS because if they are claiming to be KYC free there are still chances that those data can be collected in no time which is not ok to many. Being dishonest at first can lose the confidence of many, it’s sad to see a supposed good site to have this bad impression at first. Let’s see if they make things clear here, having an eSports is one of the bets I’ve tried before, this can be good though.

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September 22, 2022, 11:17:03 PM
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This is the reason why we should always check ToS because if they are claiming to be KYC free there are still chances that those data can be collected in no time which is not ok to many. Being dishonest at first can lose the confidence of many, it’s sad to see a supposed good site to have this bad impression at first. Let’s see if they make things clear here, having an eSports is one of the bets I’ve tried before, this can be good though.
That's what people should do when gambling in a casino or in a gambling site and yet there are still people who doesn't read ToS, terms and conditions, privacy and policy in the casino or in sportsbook where those people will create a scam accusation thread complaining about the casino. In the end, it's their own making why it happened to them because of not reading the casino's ToS. I'm sure you have seen one of those thread.

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Euphoriabet.io NO KYC Crypto Esports Betting  and Roulette

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed
they probably meant "NO KYC" upon registration which the majority of the crypto casino we have today does. anyway, as much as it is the gambler's responsibility to know the casino's ToS I still think the casino should clarify this kind of things from the start instead of saying "NO KYC" in an attempt to attract gamblers because of their "NO KYC" policy.

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Euphoriabet.io NO KYC Crypto Esports Betting  and Roulette

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)




The title is misleading if they are asking KYC based on their policy, it's contradictory and misleading if players are not going to look in the TOS and believe what they promote in their title, they will be in trouble sooner,, its a trap to put a no KYC in the title of your thread here and then you have it in your policy, you have to explain it or better take that NO KYC to promote your casino.

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The title is misleading if they are asking KYC based on their policy, it's contradictory and misleading if players are not going to look in the TOS and believe what they promote in their title, they will be in trouble sooner,, its a trap to put a no KYC in the title of your thread here and then you have it in your policy, you have to explain it or better take that NO KYC to promote your casino.

i have the feeling that maybe for now, they won't be asking kyc as they do want to attract bettors. or they won't ask kyc for small time players. however, if someone wins big, that's the time that they will require kyc for the player. in any case, the rep should clarify this first so people won't expect that they really don't need to submit kyc. because it is clear from their ToS that they do require.

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Thanks for saving me time to read about their ToS because it's clearly misleading to see "No KYC" in the OP.

In any case, we have another casinos here, and the competition is going to be tough for new ones because some casinos have established themselves.

Nevertheless, it will be a challenge to the new ones like Euphoriabet.io. Although they are more focused on Esports and I don't think majority here are into it.

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Okay. We are already confused about the No KYC so we're out!  Cheesy
But ohh my gooood they offer 100% bonus up to 250USD. That's good.  There are willing users who would try that. It's still worth risking depending on their personality.

Thanks for saving me time to read about their ToS because it's clearly misleading to see "No KYC" in the OP.

In any case, we have another casinos here, and the competition is going to be tough for new ones because some casinos have established themselves.

Nevertheless, it will be a challenge to the new ones like Euphoriabet.io. Although they are more focused on Esports and I don't think majority here are into it.

True true. Esports is not very popular in this forum,  this must work when promoted in the gamer's platform.


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Why do you say there is NO-KYC when on your website you claim that you are collecting phone numbers, ID cards, addresses, and other documents from your customers?
I don't see that you have any gambling license and I think there is high risk of using any new gambling website like this.

I join the concern of notblox1, and others who have commented on the contradiction about KYC.

You can't headline this thread with a capital NO KYC, when your TOS and privacy service talk about KYC and AML as on many other sites.

There are many complaints on this forum from people who are upset that after winning a certain amount, the casino requires KYC, and it is partly their fault for not having read their TOS, but the title of this thread is totally misleading.

Now, I don't agree that not having a licence makes a casino less reliable. Freebitco.in doesn't, to give one example, and others. Plus in the past many have operated without a licence and without scamming anyone.

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We see a lot of Sport betting sites popping up everywhere, but this one is refreshing ..because it's main focus seems to be on the neglected part of Sports betting, namely eSports!

You should really consider adding more than two Crypto currencies for your site to be a competitor in the Crypto currency scene. How did you decide on the name for your website? ==> euphoriabet.io  (Anything related to the series called Euphoria)

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September 23, 2022, 06:32:54 AM
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Why do you say there is NO-KYC when on your website you claim that you are collecting phone numbers, ID cards, addresses, and other documents from your customers?
I don't see that you have any gambling license and I think there is high risk of using any new gambling website like this.

I join the concern of notblox1, and others who have commented on the contradiction about KYC.

You can't headline this thread with a capital NO KYC, when your TOS and privacy service talk about KYC and AML as on many other sites.

There are many complaints on this forum from people who are upset that after winning a certain amount, the casino requires KYC, and it is partly their fault for not having read their TOS, but the title of this thread is totally misleading.

Now, I don't agree that not having a licence makes a casino less reliable. Freebitco.in doesn't, to give one example, and others. Plus in the past many have operated without a licence and without scamming anyone.

How transparent are they nowadays it's very easy to make a site with all manner of benefits from the site just to entice and attract people's attention while they stabilizes in few months with much high turnover then they turned day to night and made away with people funds  and cookup a story to defend themselves.

I think everyone should be very mindful, recently casino sites doesn't only accept 2 crypto currencies but extended to like 5 to 9 different
crypto currencies for easier purpose. But this site only focused on the 2 major currency which is partially looking suspicious .

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September 23, 2022, 06:38:09 AM
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For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)




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September 23, 2022, 06:45:26 AM
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Welcome to Bitcointalk.

I am more interested in NO KYC as you said, because okay, you don't require KYC for now, but for how long will you do this? Because the regulator can watch your site and force you to apply the KYC anytime.

It seems we should familiarize ourselves with NO KYC right now, but tomorrow the casino can apply KYC. But we hope you can tell your members before you apply for KYC so we can decide by ourselves and because of forced.
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September 23, 2022, 07:11:15 AM
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Very few platforms emergency for the purpose of eSports betting. In recent days it is the second one to operate dedicatedly for eSports. Earlier it was thunderpick.com which has got eSports along with sports betting and casino. KYC free access is a big attraction and many users find this welcoming. It is good to go through the conditions before making a deposit, because when some issue arises there is need of KYC.
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Looking at the site, you”ll see the matches right away and it’s really good to have a site that focuses more on the Esports. This site looks interesting, I’ve been following the Esports recently since I’m a player too, and having this site can help me think if I’m going to place a bet or not. Any chance to add other crypto as an option? I also suggest to have a marketing campaign here which can boost this site.

Yes, this site is focused on esports, and I have not seen others concentrate on the same. One of the primary reasons is esports is not followed by many. I also do not follow it and I was expecting that they might have something on sports. The only feature that I like here is no KYC.

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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
You should know better, all casinos will ask for KYC if they violate the rules and are suspected of cheating but they are not promoting themselves as a no KYC casino, if you're promoting as a no KYC it's literally no KYC, the readers will take it as it is based on your title, you will just invite cheaters in your site because you promoted your casino as no KYC, but if they know that there is an exception then they will think twice joining and cheating the casino.

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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
You should know better, all casinos will ask for KYC if they violate the rules and are suspected of cheating but they are not promoting themselves as a no KYC casino, if you're promoting as a no KYC it's literally no KYC, the readers will take it as it is based on your title, you will just invite cheaters in your site because you promoted your casino as no KYC, but if they know that there is an exception then they will think twice joining and cheating the casino.

Good point, there should be no KYC at all when a site claims to have NO KYC. For me it sounds like a marketing strategy only because maybe OP know that most people in this forum against KYC, so he use that words to attract people. Yes it can be misleading because most people do not read ToS or T&C before joining a platform. In fact KYC might be asked for some specific reason as stated in ToS. Basically it is the same with most other reputable casinos in this forum. They do not implement mandatory KYC and they have a term related to KYC but they do not claim to be "no kyc" casino. 

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September 23, 2022, 09:39:58 AM
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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
The point is, you will still ask for someone to verify at any one point due to "suspicious activity". This is a gray area. Anyone can be suspicious until proven otherwise. Even someone who has not broken any rules can be suspicious.
NO KYC simply means no one will ever be asked KYC, suspicious or not suspicious. There is no in between.

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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
You should know better, all casinos will ask for KYC if they violate the rules and are suspected of cheating but they are not promoting themselves as a no KYC casino, if you're promoting as a no KYC it's literally no KYC, the readers will take it as it is based on your title, you will just invite cheaters in your site because you promoted your casino as no KYC, but if they know that there is an exception then they will think twice joining and cheating the casino.

Good point, there should be no KYC at all when a site claims to have NO KYC. For me it sounds like a marketing strategy only because maybe OP know that most people in this forum against KYC, so he use that words to attract people. Yes it can be misleading because most people do not read ToS or T&C before joining a platform. In fact KYC might be asked for some specific reason as stated in ToS. Basically it is the same with most other reputable casinos in this forum. They do not implement mandatory KYC and they have a term related to KYC but they do not claim to be "no kyc" casino. 
Its like fooling around once they implement KYC since they supposed to be a non KYC compliant as they claim that on their thread. So if they ask this then maybe this is a red flag because they can make this as an excuse for people who doesn't want to provide it to hostage their money if they don't do this procedure. But anyways let see how they can serve quality experience to their bettors.

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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
You should know better, all casinos will ask for KYC if they violate the rules and are suspected of cheating but they are not promoting themselves as a no KYC casino, if you're promoting as a no KYC it's literally no KYC, the readers will take it as it is based on your title, you will just invite cheaters in your site because you promoted your casino as no KYC, but if they know that there is an exception then they will think twice joining and cheating the casino.

Good point, there should be no KYC at all when a site claims to have NO KYC. For me it sounds like a marketing strategy only because maybe OP know that most people in this forum against KYC, so he use that words to attract people. Yes it can be misleading because most people do not read ToS or T&C before joining a platform. In fact KYC might be asked for some specific reason as stated in ToS. Basically it is the same with most other reputable casinos in this forum. They do not implement mandatory KYC and they have a term related to KYC but they do not claim to be "no kyc" casino. 
Its like fooling around once they implement KYC since they supposed to be a non KYC compliant as they claim that on their thread. So if they ask this then maybe this is a red flag because they can make this as an excuse for people who doesn't want to provide it to hostage their money if they don't do this procedure. But anyways let see how they can serve quality experience to their bettors.

OP should do the right thing, take out the non-KYC in the title and replace it with another compelling tag line don't boast as a no KYC casino when you are not, there was a casino in the past that also boast of a no KYC casino but they have KYC in their TOS, I don't remember the name but it's not existing anymore, who would trust a casino who tries to deceive people from a policy that contradict their terms, let's see if they will take that non KYC or people should cautious on this casino.

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For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)




We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

Welcome to the forum. Yes, indeed, your KYC policy is disclosed in the relevant section of the TaC and if the player does not abuse it, he may be able to avoid the KYC procedure. Are you going to expand the sports betting section by adding real matches or will you limit yourself to esports only?

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September 23, 2022, 02:21:43 PM
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Welcome euphoriabet to bitcointalk.  Smiley

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Are there countries from which we are not allowed to play? I did not find this information on your site. Do you plan to organize competitions or a signature campaign here in the forum?

We accept all countries
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Euphoriabet.io NO KYC Crypto Esports Betting  and Roulette

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)




We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

Welcome to the forum. Yes, indeed, your KYC policy is disclosed in the relevant section of the TaC and if the player does not abuse it, he may be able to avoid the KYC procedure. Are you going to expand the sports betting section by adding real matches or will you limit yourself to esports only?





At the moment we present only bets on eSports, probably in future we will have sports We will inform if it happens
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Hello OP good day and welcome to the bitcointalk forum. This is one of a great announcement threads created by newcomers here in the community because you do some effort and buy a copper membership in order to post images to become more professional in looking. Promoting your casino here in forum is a good option because here there are a lot of gamblers and for sure if your services is okay then you will be gain more customers. Good luck OP and to your casino.

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With the way of the look, this casino is likely to make much difference in gambling services provided that it maintain it standard to be KYC free casino inwhich most gamblers are on the look after for privacy, then it will also do good if their target at least for the start now is quality service delivery that will best suit the interest of gamblers for a try, and lastly, they should maintain working on their site to ensure zero attack from gamblers on their site.



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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
It's same like 99% of casinos in this forum that have mandatory KYC, this mean your casino and the other doesn't have something different. If you're want to say your casino is really 100% No KYC you should check Freebitco and Anonibet, visit their terms of service and find the word "KYC" on their pages.

The bonus doesn't interesting, moreover this casino have mandatory KYC while they don't have any gambling license, need to be careful.

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Welcome euphoriabet to bitcointalk.  Smiley

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Are there countries from which we are not allowed to play? I did not find this information on your site. Do you plan to organize competitions or a signature campaign here in the forum?

We accept all countries

Op Is very lazy in answering the questions of the members, it seems that he did not want to be here in the forum free will, op you could kindly spend your time and answer all questions the members are asking? Remembering that they are future customers, so treat customers well Is something fundamental to the success of a business. repeating the two questions that OP did not answer:

1 - Do you plan to make any promotion?
2 - Do you have a short or medium or long term plan to run signature campaign on this forum?



1 - Does your casino have license?
2 - There are sanctioned countries and other countries like the US who have harsh laws and so most casinos do not accept people from these countries, how are you accepting people from these countries knowing it? Aren't you afraid of being sanctioned?

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Checked your ANN which looks decent while the site itself could use more work since it seems unorganised. I could find sports markets pretty easily, but I couldn't find some of the games that some of the posters above discussed.

I couldn't find an FAQ section either which should answer basic queries like minimum deposit, minimum withdrawal, house edge etc.

Also, the whole KYC debate makes sense since so many crypto gambling sites took advantage of it to screw some of their gamblers. More clarification is required in this case.

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Do you have any plans to add more type of games in the next coming months/years, like live games and slots? Currently, I am only seeing sports and eSports betting on your site. I couldn't find the roulette, isn't it launched yet?
For your design, I would suggest to add a drop-down feature which can view less and view more.
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Hello OP good day and welcome to the bitcointalk forum. This is one of a great announcement threads created by newcomers here in the community because you do some effort and buy a copper membership in order to post images to become more professional in looking. Promoting your casino here in forum is a good option because here there are a lot of gamblers and for sure if your services is okay then you will gain more customers. Good luck OP and to your casino.
I agree with you on that, having a great ANN thread goes a long way to show the site's capability and what to expect in terms of graphics and other content on the site.

Most reputable casinos started with a copper member account and we're able to post whatever content their want to promote the platform. I will wish to see the team is committed to serving the customers in the best possible ways.
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welcome to bitcointalk
op you said no need kyc for your casino site . this sound is really cool but i seen many details talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service . what do you mean actually about this ? i don’t know why your site keep kyc and AML policy on  terms of service but you ask no kyc on this topic headline ?


We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
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Do you have any plans to add more type of games in the next coming months/years, like live games and slots? Currently, I am only seeing sports and eSports betting on your site. I couldn't find the roulette, isn't it launched yet?
For your design, I would suggest to add a drop-down feature which can view less and view more.
Welcome to the forum!

We do not plan to add live games and slots

Roulette link https://euphoriabet.io/roulette
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Your site has a simple appearance, making it easier for users to have no trouble, the wagering prize promo is also not bad for a new site. At there already roulette but is it fair? No KYC does not same with the policies listed on your site, which the community has highlighted about it, so that for now also doubts to me. But anyway welcome to the forum euphoriabet !

In the near future, we will provide you with evidence of the fairness of roulette


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<snip>
Do you have any plans to add more type of games in the next coming months/years, like live games and slots? Currently, I am only seeing sports and eSports betting on your site. I couldn't find the roulette, isn't it launched yet?
For your design, I would suggest to add a drop-down feature which can view less and view more.
Welcome to the forum!

We do not plan to add live games and slots

Roulette link https://euphoriabet.io/roulette
CS:GO type of roulette with having some different design on its tiles which is understandble but not all people would really be that preferring this kind of type.People do really love to see those add-ons considering
that most of popular sites now does have that particular trait or offering in terms of games available or just simply they could play various games in one go.If you dont have any plans then so be it but
do expect that people wont really be that become too interested on trying out games which arent really giving that much changes or something interesting but well lets
see on how you would really be handling out your marketing strategies and promotions inside this forum.Good luck!

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We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
though gamblers have the responsibility to read the casino's ToS, it would still be better to clarify the KYC rule from the start. I've seen gamblers complain about being asked about KYC usually when the gamblers try to withdraw when the gambling site states "NO KYC".

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We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
though gamblers have the responsibility to read the casino's ToS, it would still be better to clarify the KYC rule from the start. I've seen gamblers complain about being asked about KYC usually when the gamblers try to withdraw when the gambling site states "NO KYC".

Yes we are sure of it, the amount does not matter, violation the rules is the only case when we can request it
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We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
though gamblers have the responsibility to read the casino's ToS, it would still be better to clarify the KYC rule from the start. I've seen gamblers complain about being asked about KYC usually when the gamblers try to withdraw when the gambling site states "NO KYC".

Yes we are sure of it, the amount does not matter, violation the rules is the only case when we can request it
Though a bit late, but I believe it's never too late to say welcome to the bitcointalk forum, hope you find success with this project on this forum like several others have.

To comment on the kyc discussion, I personally would never believe any casino that comes out to say they are a no kyc casino, i see this as a marketing strategy to win customers since majority of gamblers hate going through the kyc process on casinos for several reasons, many casinos in time past, started as a no kyc casino but in the long run, they started enforcing kyc on their customers after they have gained alot of users.

Secondly, my honest advice and suggestions is.. Since you are new, you need alot of marketing and exposure, this are both something you can get on this forum for some little amount of money, depending on how long you want your campaign to run, I am suggesting a signature ad campaign for this new business, let the forum users help spread your arrival to all crook and crannies of this forum through their signatures.

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September 23, 2022, 07:47:05 PM
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Just to drop my view on the KYC issues that have triggered a discussion on this thread, I think that a gambler should read through the terms and conditions of the casino before creating an account on the casino to avoid any confusion when the site demand KYC later on.

Most casinos ask for KYC from gamblers especially when there is a suspension of abuse of any kind.
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Just like the rest.They have the same or identical terms and conditions which they would really be asking for some verification whenever they do see suspicious activity on a certain user which is something not that shocking and any platforms that we do have today could really asked out those verifications if ever they do see those things.Its not misleading just like on what others been saying
because majority of platforms that we do have in the market doesn't ask out verifications before you can play.You could directly play without sending out various informations
but on the case where there are things which arent right then they do have the full rights on doing so.

I think it very much is misleading and honestly false advertising as well. If a casino says that they do not do KYC then thats that. No KYC. Saying "We do not do KYC" but then saying "Surprise! Do KYC or we will not give you your funds back" is very much misleading. Personally, I would not trust any online gambling casino that advertises like that. It does not seem like a serious casino to me. More like a copy/paste casino with misleading advertisments.

I would rather have a KYC casino than a dishonest casino.

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September 23, 2022, 08:05:34 PM
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Hello OP good day and welcome to the bitcointalk forum. This is one of a great announcement threads created by newcomers here in the community because you do some effort and buy a copper membership in order to post images to become more professional in looking. Promoting your casino here in forum is a good option because here there are a lot of gamblers and for sure if your services is okay then you will be gain more customers. Good luck OP and to your casino.
The ann thread is simple and easy to understand. Key features are there, highlighted and most especially copper membership is already availed and the banner is well presented so I think I can agree on what you said there. It's not that this forum has a lot of gamblers but many people here are interested in crypto and those people might also be curious on other crypto service including crypto gambling.

I don't know if having an ann thread in this board can be considered already as a promotion but for me promotion is when your brand is being exposed in different places and it can be done through bounty campaigns, signature campaigns, and lastly forum advertisement.

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September 23, 2022, 08:41:02 PM
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welcome to bitcointalk
op you said no need kyc for your casino site . this sound is really cool but i seen many details talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service . what do you mean actually about this ? i don’t know why your site keep kyc and AML policy on  terms of service but you ask no kyc on this topic headline ?


We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

in this case you should remove the "NO KYC" in the title of your ANN Thread, because at the end of the day your casino asks for KYC in case someone is considered suspicious. so that means you ask for KYC. The most important thing is to be sincere and honest with people and tell them that they should be aware that in your casino anyone you consider suspicious will KYC. the problem with that is that you have a lot of power, you are the one who will decide who pays and who doesn't, you just need to use your TOS and consider that the person is suspicious and force him to do KYC and as most people are afraid KYC, they prefer to give up the money and the casino will keep the money.

is your casino licensed?

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September 23, 2022, 11:01:54 PM
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Your announcement is already 4 pages but there's so much discussion in your NO KYC in your title but you will eventually ask for KYC under some condition, you may think it's a big, not a big deal but players looked at it as misleading and something some players may overlook and get them in trouble later, it's up to you to keep it but as you have it in your title, some players will question it, and this may backfire at you in the long run.


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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

According to your Terms and Conditions, you give yourself the right to request KYC from players who are using your service in one way or another, this means you can request KYC from any player. Trying to promote yourself as a "NO KYC" casino when you are doing exactly the same as any other casino that implements KYC procedures is dishonest and misleading.

Secondly, you have no right to collect and process the user's personal information if you don't clearly indicate who (which company) is responsible for the processing and security of such data. This is illegal because it violates the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

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Why would you need time to answer such a simple question!
If the game is fair and it uses a provably fair algorithm then simply explain how it works and how the results are being generated.
You certainly realize that many will be reluctant to make a deposit and play a game they can't verify the fairness of its results especially if it's being provided by a new casino.

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We do not plan to add live games and slots

Roulette link https://euphoriabet.io/roulette

Slots games are one of the most popular types of games, I think if you add them it will have an impact on the opportunities for many players to play at your gambling website.

is your casino licensed?
Usually there will be a banner that can be clicked to see the certificate from the gambling license but that is not found there, I guess they are not licensed.

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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
just like every casino ? so you best say that you will not ask KYC upon depositing but will do in Withdrawal , because most of the casino (specially those who had a scam profie) says this anyway that they will not ask KYC but when they need to withdraw? some will be accused of being cheater and violating their rules.
though i am not literally called you as one , but best to not Put that Capitalized word "NO KYC" when the truth is? you will ask anyway.









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Looks like others pointed out from your terms of service that KYC is "required" (not even optional), but you still stating that it's a NO KYC crypto based casino. That's not how you build trusts. Stop luring people into your casino giving false information. Doesn't look good at all. You will only be accused of scamming users once their funds get stuck and they will have to pass KYC. If you want players, edit your post, be more transparent and people will register. There are people that are looking for good casinos and they don't really care about KYC.

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Just to drop my view on the KYC issues that have triggered a discussion on this thread, I think that a gambler should read through the terms and conditions of the casino before creating an account on the casino to avoid any confusion when the site demand KYC later on.

Most casinos ask for KYC from gamblers especially when there is a suspension of abuse of any kind.
Yes and that's why all the issues should be cleared at the beginning, it could be harm for casino reputation in the beginning, currently most of the casinos are going through such a process, if kyc is not required to open the account in the beginning, but later they will require kyc through some policy.  And for this, everyone should check the terms and conditions carefully before making a deposit.


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September 24, 2022, 11:14:05 AM
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This website is the least secure one I've ever seen.
After finding a serious vulnerability, I reported it to their team.
I obviously can't expect bug bounty rewards when the website doesn't have such a program, but this is the first website I've ever bug hunted on that didn't pay ANYTHING.
The vulnerability made me able to generate infinite USDT+BTC.
My advice is to avoid this site. You could easily lose your crypto due to a malicious actor (If the site bankroll is cleaned).
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September 24, 2022, 11:29:47 AM
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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
The problem here is that, you are claiming to be NO KYC betting site but when they checked the ToS it is clearly stated there  so better to be more honest since other site have this kind of rules as well and they are honest in the first place, KYC seems to be a thing now so better to tell the truth and gain the trust of gamblers by doing this. Personally, I also like to see an Esports betting site, I wish you success on this project and hoping to see more news about this site.
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This website is the least secure one I've ever seen.
After finding a serious vulnerability, I reported it to their team.
I obviously can't expect bug bounty rewards when the website doesn't have such a program, but this is the first website I've ever bug hunted on that didn't pay ANYTHING.
The vulnerability made me able to generate infinite USDT+BTC.
My advice is to avoid this site. You could easily lose your crypto due to a malicious actor (If the site bankroll is cleaned).


leaving a bad review by not playing on the site just because you were not paid a reward for pointing out a bug is ridiculous, no one forced you to do it, you did it voluntarily
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leaving a bad review by not playing on the site just because you were not paid a reward for pointing out a bug is ridiculous, no one forced you to do it, you did it voluntarily

I totally agree that leaving a bad review just because I wasn't paid isn't fair.

The point of my review is to let potential customers know that a bug has been found (And fixed), and that their funds might not be safe.
The reason I'm saying their funds might not be safe, is due to how easily I found the vulnerability. If a malicious actor had found the vulnerability (And not me), then they could've slowly stolen your bankroll over time, and users wouldn't be able to withdraw what they'd won.

That said, I welcome you to the gambling scene.

Pro tip; Start a bug bounty program. Paying people to find bugs is a lot better than people finding bugs and exploiting them.
Also, make the roulette provably fair Smiley
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leaving a bad review by not playing on the site just because you were not paid a reward for pointing out a bug is ridiculous, no one forced you to do it, you did it voluntarily

There are so many other questions that I think are much more important than the one you've addressed, and which still remain unanswered.

For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time? Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

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September 24, 2022, 03:19:11 PM
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leaving a bad review by not playing on the site just because you were not paid a reward for pointing out a bug is ridiculous, no one forced you to do it, you did it voluntarily

I totally agree that leaving a bad review just because I wasn't paid isn't fair.

The point of my review is to let potential customers know that a bug has been found (And fixed), and that their funds might not be safe.
The reason I'm saying their funds might not be safe, is due to how easily I found the vulnerability. If a malicious actor had found the vulnerability (And not me), then they could've slowly stolen your bankroll over time, and users wouldn't be able to withdraw what they'd won.

That said, I welcome you to the gambling scene.

Pro tip; Start a bug bounty program. Paying people to find bugs is a lot better than people finding bugs and exploiting them.
Also, make the roulette provably fair Smiley

I’m not professional on this technicalities but is there support acknowledge your report as high risk? Afaik most of new casino like this usually don’t invest much on public bug bounty program so what you are doing is just a volunteer work and you don’t need to demand them to pay you.

And also you made a warning message here after you report the bug to the admin. Meaning that they are already aware and probably fixed so your warning here is already not valid. Your negative comment is an obvious retaliation for not paying to your volunteer service.

But for me, You should received an incentives if the bug that you find is really high risk because you didn’t exploit it by yourself.

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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
just like every casino ? so you best say that you will not ask KYC upon depositing but will do in Withdrawal , because most of the casino (specially those who had a scam profie) says this anyway that they will not ask KYC but when they need to withdraw? some will be accused of being cheater and violating their rules.
though i am not literally called you as one , but best to not Put that Capitalized word "NO KYC" when the truth is? you will ask anyway.

I think that you are right that mate because like what other casino did they not require any kyc upon deposits but if the account has suspicious of cheating or violating the rules of regulations of the forum then they ask kyc which is needed in order to stop those abusive gamblers but let's wait for the review from other gamblers how they manage or handle their customers because we can say that casino is good if they have a good services from their customers.

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September 24, 2022, 03:51:43 PM
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This website is the least secure one I've ever seen.
After finding a serious vulnerability, I reported it to their team.
I obviously can't expect bug bounty rewards when the website doesn't have such a program, but this is the first website I've ever bug hunted on that didn't pay ANYTHING.
The vulnerability made me able to generate infinite USDT+BTC.
My advice is to avoid this site. You could easily lose your crypto due to a malicious actor (If the site bankroll is cleaned).

Well, if what you are talking about is really true, then what you have discovered can be considered a critical vulnerability, which of course is the most sensitive for the existence of casinos and if they treat security issues in this way, it is better to stay away, you never know what other bugs there are on the carpet.
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And also you made a warning message here after you report the bug to the admin. Meaning that they are already aware and probably fixed so your warning here is already not valid. Your negative comment is an obvious retaliation for not paying to your volunteer service.

I'll post warning messages no matter what.
Wintomato paid me for the data leakage vulnerability, and I still let people know about it (Check my post history).
The reason for posting warning messages is to let people (Customers) know that they fucked up, and that it might happen again.
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About kyc, we have answered this before several times, if you want to find an answer, read other posts, do not ask the same question 10 times
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September 24, 2022, 07:20:32 PM
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I've seen some KYC issues around here, I advise OP to remove the NO KYC on the title because it might lead into confusion knowing that you are asking KYC for suspicious account just like any other casinos. NO KYC is a strong word now and putting it on a title could make a ANN thread attractive though it can make a misunderstanding just like what happened here. I promise you that it can lead in a big issue in the future given that you have a no verification(no kyc) on your website but required KYC on suspicious account on TOS.

Aside from KYC I like how your casino focus on e-sports game. With most common and famous game out there where competitiveness is focused. I'm sure there will be improvement on the website soon. Welcome to the forum!
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September 24, 2022, 07:26:04 PM
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About kyc, we have answered this before several times, if you want to find an answer, read other posts, do not ask the same question 10 times

I looked at all your posts carefully, but I can't find the one where you answered these questions:

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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time? Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

If you feel the questions have already been answered, please direct me to the post in which they were discussed. I would really appreciate it.

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September 24, 2022, 07:59:01 PM
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If you state in the title of the ad that you are not going to implement KYC, it only raises more questions and you can expect such reactions from people. We've seen a lot of gambling sites in the past that all said they didn't have to do KYC but if players wanted to be paid, there were out of the blue exceptions where they had to be asked. I therefore think that this promise is of little use, and whether the casino really isn't going to ask for KYC, time will tell. At this point I would have my doubts about that.

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September 24, 2022, 08:57:18 PM
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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time? Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

If you feel the questions have already been answered, please direct me to the post in which they were discussed. I would really appreciate it.
^ I also wanted to know regarding this matter, it is very important if OP gives these details so that users of this gambling casino will lessen their doubt regarding the KYC. Because it will probably be possible a loophole when they saw a NO-KYC but when they withdraw it will ask KYC, it seems very frustrating if that will be on my side. Op just answer this question publicly so that you will know if your gambling casino is worth entrusting our fund not to become a scam.
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September 24, 2022, 09:40:10 PM
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welcome to bitcointalk
op you said no need kyc for your casino site . this sound is really cool but i seen many details talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service . what do you mean actually about this ? i don’t know why your site keep kyc and AML policy on  terms of service but you ask no kyc on this topic headline ?


We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

The above post is the statement of the team towards KYC.
So at the moment, they are not requiring KYC, unless they suspected you from violating their ToS.
However, with the scenarios that we have observed in a lot of gambling sites, they sometimes require KYC even if you haven't violated any of their protocols,
but just because you got big winnings. Now, up to you how you will trust the site about their statement on this aspect.

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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time? Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

If you feel the questions have already been answered, please direct me to the post in which they were discussed. I would really appreciate it.
^ I also wanted to know regarding this matter, it is very important if OP gives these details so that users of this gambling casino will lessen their doubt regarding the KYC. Because it will probably be possible a loophole when they saw a NO-KYC but when they withdraw it will ask KYC, it seems very frustrating if that will be on my side. Op just answer this question publicly so that you will know if your gambling casino is worth entrusting our fund not to become a scam.

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September 24, 2022, 10:14:36 PM
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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time? Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

If you feel the questions have already been answered, please direct me to the post in which they were discussed. I would really appreciate it.
^ I also wanted to know regarding this matter, it is very important if OP gives these details so that users of this gambling casino will lessen their doubt regarding the KYC. Because it will probably be possible a loophole when they saw a NO-KYC but when they withdraw it will ask KYC, it seems very frustrating if that will be on my side. Op just answer this question publicly so that you will know if your gambling casino is worth entrusting our fund not to become a scam.
Finding answers wont really be that hard as OP had already mentioned about KYC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414541.msg60994403#msg60994403

Just like the rest of the current gambling platforms nowadays does have this kind of similar terms which they could ask out potentially for verification or KYC
if they do saw something fishy.

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September 24, 2022, 10:25:22 PM
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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time? Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?

If you feel the questions have already been answered, please direct me to the post in which they were discussed. I would really appreciate it.
^ I also wanted to know regarding this matter, it is very important if OP gives these details so that users of this gambling casino will lessen their doubt regarding the KYC. Because it will probably be possible a loophole when they saw a NO-KYC but when they withdraw it will ask KYC, it seems very frustrating if that will be on my side. Op just answer this question publicly so that you will know if your gambling casino is worth entrusting our fund not to become a scam.
Finding answers wont really be that hard as OP had already mentioned about KYC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414541.msg60994403#msg60994403

Just like the rest of the current gambling platforms nowadays does have this kind of similar terms which they could ask out potentially for verification or KYC
if they do saw something fishy.
If at all there is KYC at whatever time and for whatever reason then the casino should not have used the term NO KYC on their title because that will confuse some players who may think that the casino is a KYC free and will not take the time to read the T&C thereby making deposits and when KYC is demanded at whatever time they will raise questions as to why the casino us asking for KYC. So to make it simple, there is no need to write no KYC on the title of this thread since the site can request it at whatever time.
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September 24, 2022, 10:33:41 PM
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About kyc, we have answered this before several times, if you want to find an answer, read other posts, do not ask the same question 10 times

I looked at all your posts carefully, but I can't find the one where you answered these questions:

I believe they had answered the question. And one of the replies even pasted their TOS clause regarding the KYC. I even quoted that clause too.

If at all there is KYC at whatever time and for whatever reason then the casino should not have used the term NO KYC on their title because that will confuse some players who may think that the casino is a KYC free and will not take the time to read the T&C thereby making deposits and when KYC is demanded at whatever time they will raise questions as to why the casino us asking for KYC. So to make it simple, there is no need to write no KYC on the title of this thread since the site can request it at whatever time.


Basically, anyone can deposit, play and withdraw under normal conditions without performing KYC.  So I think there is no problem announcing that they don't do KYC.  It is also part of the marketing, telling people one of the unique features of the casino.  KYC will be implemented when they found an account suspicious.  So it is part of an investigation when the situation isn't "normal".

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Afaik most of new casino like this usually don’t invest much on public bug bounty program so what you are doing is just a volunteer work and you don’t need to demand them to pay you.
Yes, most new casinos do not have bug bounty programs. But, generally, when someone reports a serious vulnerability which may put customers funds or data to risk, they usually give a reward to the reporter as a gesture of gratitude (the reward can be in any form like special badge or membership, not necessarily money).

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Meaning that they are already aware and probably fixed so your warning here is already not valid. Your negative comment is an obvious retaliation for not paying to your volunteer service.
This is what bug hunters usually do. They publicly disclose the vulnerability after being sure it has been fixed.
Vulnerabilities have been found on the world's most popular websites (Google, fb..). So, OP should not take this personally.

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Basically, anyone can deposit, play and withdraw under normal conditions without performing KYC.  So I think there is no problem announcing that they don't do KYC.  It is also part of the marketing, telling people one of the unique features of the casino.  KYC will be implemented when they found an account suspicious.  So it is part of an investigation when the situation isn't "normal".

I understood your point correctly and I don't have any problem with that either, kyc is only requested when there is suspicion with the account and the account is under investigation that way kyc can be demanded for, and this is the practice with most casinos this days so that is understood that kyc is somehow part of the site but not mandatory to all players unless under strange behavior from the player.
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welcome to bitcointalk
op you said no need kyc for your casino site . this sound is really cool but i seen many details talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service . what do you mean actually about this ? i don’t know why your site keep kyc and AML policy on  terms of service but you ask no kyc on this topic headline ?


We do not require KYC any of the players  if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting

The above post is the statement of the team towards KYC.
So at the moment, they are not requiring KYC, unless they suspected you from violating their ToS.
However, with the scenarios that we have observed in a lot of gambling sites, they sometimes require KYC even if you haven't violated any of their protocols,
but just because you got big winnings. Now, up to you how you will trust the site about their statement on this aspect.


Its already given from all casinos if you've won a huge amount you have to undergo KYC  and if they suspect that you are cheating by having multiple accounts to abuse bonuses you'll also have to undergo KYC, all the casinos that implement that do not promote themselves as a no KYC if you deposit and play as long as you do not fall in these situations I mentioned.

Players might think that you will implement NO KYC if you won a big amount or have multiple accounts because you are promoting yourself to a NO KYC casino which is a half-truth, you want to have an advantage over other casinos when your terms is not different from all the others.
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September 24, 2022, 11:10:41 PM
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Basically, anyone can deposit, play and withdraw under normal conditions without performing KYC.  So I think there is no problem announcing that they don't do KYC.  It is also part of the marketing, telling people one of the unique features of the casino.  KYC will be implemented when they found an account suspicious.  So it is part of an investigation when the situation isn't "normal".

I understood your point correctly and I don't have any problem with that either, kyc is only requested when there is suspicion with the account and the account is under investigation that way kyc can be demanded for, and this is the practice with most casinos this days so that is understood that kyc is somehow part of the site but not mandatory to all players unless under strange behavior from the player.

I also understand where you are coming from.  Some casino exploits this kind of situation wherein they implement KYC on an account that happens to withdraw a huge amount of winnings just to prevent the player from bagging that huge amount in a "legal" means.  We have seen lots of cases like these, even though some accounts are clean, they still try their chance to rob those players of their winnings.

Hopefully, we won't see Euphirabet.io use this KYC to exploit their players and prove to us that they are indeed a reputable Casino company that we can entrust with our bankroll no matter how huge or small it is.

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September 24, 2022, 11:34:28 PM
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Just like the rest.They have the same or identical terms and conditions which they would really be asking for some verification whenever they do see suspicious activity on a certain user which is something not that shocking and any platforms that we do have today could really asked out those verifications if ever they do see those things.Its not misleading just like on what others been saying
because majority of platforms that we do have in the market doesn't ask out verifications before you can play.You could directly play without sending out various informations
but on the case where there are things which arent right then they do have the full rights on doing so.

I think it very much is misleading and honestly false advertising as well. If a casino says that they do not do KYC then thats that. No KYC. Saying "We do not do KYC" but then saying "Surprise! Do KYC or we will not give you your funds back" is very much misleading. Personally, I would not trust any online gambling casino that advertises like that. It does not seem like a serious casino to me. More like a copy/paste casino with misleading advertisments.

I would rather have a KYC casino than a dishonest casino.
Impressions are common or would really be ending up like this.Who does want to be get fooled? No one,right? Its true that i would be better playing on a site which is honest at least rather than on something
misleading or just making use of click baits just for them to get some attention or recognition but they dont really know that it does really give out that kind of negative feels and impressions
on having this kind of proclaiming or announcement about their site.If they do say about no KYC then it should not have that kyc and its not something situational
just like the rest but it turns out that they do have that way.

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In general, the discussion about KYC is pointless.
It's absolutely obvious that this is a deception.
And in this case, the Euphoriabet did very well !
They initially cheated, already in advertising.
Making clear the course of further relationships with customers.

It is possible to draw the right conclusions, and immediately add them to the black list so as not to be deceived in the future.
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September 25, 2022, 01:07:07 AM
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welcome to the forum,

how many customers did you get after 4 months create the site?,

and, all these 4 months, what are you doing?. where are you promoted?,

e-sports are not familiar on here, you have to hard work to promote e-sports, but from what I see on how another site promotes the unpopular game, they not focusing what his selling but how they make the people come to the site first, after many costumers come they begin to introduce the product.

Any chance to add other crypto as an option?
I just see USDT and BTC which I think enough sufficient for the new gambling site. and better to think again If adding any currency which makes the server hang up.

Why do you say there is NO-KYC when on your website you claim that you are collecting phone numbers, ID cards, addresses, and other documents from your customers?
Maybe his mean for withdrawing and depositing where is very crucial on this forum. If more, they have to collect that.

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I make deposit, and money not come.
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September 25, 2022, 02:13:34 AM
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Welcome to the forum mate.
The site’s design and colour theme is great, and seeing “NO KYC” making me more anxious to try the site.
Regarding the 100% deposit bonus, what are the wagering requirements? You should have mentioned that in the OP.

I make deposit, and money not come.
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Is your balance credited till now? Have you tried to contact their support at site? It’s really not cool if the deposits and the withdrawals are not automatic.
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September 25, 2022, 02:50:58 AM
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Welcome to the forum. It's nice seeing new site is created as an option for gamblers here to play. Anyway, the design of your site looks good and it works fast.

We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
That means it's not completely a no kyc platform because you might ask for it with the reasons you specified. Many gamblers prefer a no kyc casino thus it's misleading to claim your site has no kyc at all.

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I make deposit, and money not come.
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Welcome to the forum mate.
The site’s design and colour theme is great, and seeing “NO KYC” making me more anxious to try the site.
Regarding the 100% deposit bonus, what are the wagering requirements? You should have mentioned that in the OP.

I make deposit, and money not come.
btc and usdt....
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1AyWkosqGYSVPGsNhkNKKjyRwqMA43hSAd


Is your balance credited till now? Have you tried to contact their support at site? It’s really not cool if the deposits and the withdrawals are not automatic.
Please update us with your deposit status mate.


now it's come. but withdrawal not auto..
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We accept all countries
Thanks for the answer. That calms me down a lot. Too bad my other questions didn't get answered, but it's okay. Maybe they don't want to reveal anything about it yet. I can understand that.  Smiley
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This website is the least secure one I've ever seen.
After finding a serious vulnerability, I reported it to their team.
I obviously can't expect bug bounty rewards when the website doesn't have such a program, but this is the first website I've ever bug hunted on that didn't pay ANYTHING.
The vulnerability made me able to generate infinite USDT+BTC.
My advice is to avoid this site. You could easily lose your crypto due to a malicious actor (If the site bankroll is cleaned).

Well, if what you are talking about is really true, then what you have discovered can be considered a critical vulnerability, which of course is the most sensitive for the existence of casinos and if they treat security issues in this way, it is better to stay away, you never know what other bugs there are on the carpet.

Security is too important because we are risking our funds here. It will be best if they will do something about this matter right away. We all know that a casino site with security issues could easily have a ruined reputation. If they want to build a strong foundation of trust, they have to work on it.

I believe KYC should be mandatory for all sites of this nature. It would not be much effecting and attractive for new members without KYC. Also, I would OP buy a copper member account as well. Running a market campaign would also be mandatory for your site. I hope you can understand my point.


Yes, of course you are right, but at the moment there is no such possibility as to pass KYC after registering in the user profile, this is possible only after a request from the administration of the online casino euphoriabet.io , the only option available is to enable 2FA change your password and add your date of birth.
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I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair
This is practiced by most of the casinos, even most of the reputed casinos. We have seen this a lot of times here. I won't be really surprised because casinos want to confiscate users' money if they win big lol. I wouldn't recommend you use this site or any other site but if you are not going to give it a try, you won't know how they are. I don't try new sites unless they are offering very much attractive and lucrative bonuses.

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I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair

You can say it is unfair if they have no terms related to KYC but if there is a term related to KYC, it is completely fair.
As what said by Little Mouse above, it is common thing in casinos where players are asked for KYC for huge win especially if the win come with low wagering activity.
If you say it in general perspective regardless the existing of the terms, means that you want to say that all casinos are unfair. Is it what you wanna say?

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September 25, 2022, 05:52:27 PM
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About kyc, we have answered this before several times, if you want to find an answer, read other posts, do not ask the same question 10 times

I looked at all your posts carefully, but I can't find the one where you answered these questions:

I believe they had answered the question. And one of the replies even pasted their TOS clause regarding the KYC. I even quoted that clause too.

That's only part of my question, I'd still like to hear the rest from them.

As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.

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September 25, 2022, 06:07:47 PM
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As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.

Yeah, true indeed but this is also true that KYC isn't mandatory there either. They only require KYC if they find anything suspicious or if they are forced through legal entities. As I said, this is common practice in online casino industry. There are very few casinos which don't require KYC at all. Macaw casino is one them which I'm aware of. Can't remember if there are more too.

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September 25, 2022, 07:01:53 PM
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About kyc, we have answered this before several times, if you want to find an answer, read other posts, do not ask the same question 10 times

I looked at all your posts carefully, but I can't find the one where you answered these questions:

I believe they had answered the question. And one of the replies even pasted their TOS clause regarding the KYC. I even quoted that clause too.
As we know, only regulated casinos and gambling sites have to follow KYC and AML requirements. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site. As such, there are no legal regulations in place that require KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data on such a site. When we share personal information with unregulated gambling sites, there are no guarantees that our information won't be sold to or used by criminals. Unlicensed and unregulated gambling sites are not held to the same legal standards as licensed sites, which means that you can never know for sure what their intentions are, or if they will stay in business. In the end, the choice is up to you, but I personally do not recommend divulging your personal information with unlicensed gambling sites.
I totally agree with you, now the question is which should gamblers really trust to pay their winnings without problems between a licensed casino and the unlicensed one?

Licensed casinos require gamblers to pass kyc verification, and this, many gamblers don't like, but their chances of turning scam is low.
Meanwhile on the other hand, unlicensed casinos do not require gamblers to pass kyc verification, and this almost all gamblers love, but the chances of this type of casino turn scam in the future is lightly higher compared to the first one I mention.
Which would people really prefer?

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I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair
This is practiced by most of the casinos, even most of the reputed casinos. We have seen this a lot of times here. I won't be really surprised because casinos want to confiscate users' money if they win big lol. I wouldn't recommend you use this site or any other site but if you are not going to give it a try, you won't know how they are. I don't try new sites unless they are offering very much attractive and lucrative bonuses.
Currently, the number of online casino sites are not less. New sites are constantly being created. There are several things a gambler needs to keep in mind when signing up for a new site. KYC is an important thing which is not safe to do on any sites. Moreover, there is no guarantee that such Casino account will not be closed after winning a large jackpot. But if there is such a confusion then it is better to do KYC if it is worth gambling otherwise it is better to avoid it.

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September 25, 2022, 10:57:17 PM
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I am personally not interested on this site yet . coz i am still worried when i will deposit and win a big jackpot then they can ask kyc from me. i haven’t any problem to pass kyc if they ask it before deposit but i am not interested to pass kyc verification if they ask when i will will win a big jackpot . it will totally unfair

You can say it is unfair if they have no terms related to KYC but if there is a term related to KYC, it is completely fair.
As what said by Little Mouse above, it is common thing in casinos where players are asked for KYC for huge win especially if the win come with low wagering activity.
If you say it in general perspective regardless the existing of the terms, means that you want to say that all casinos are unfair. Is it what you wanna say?

Honestly, it makes no sense to ask for KYC if the fund is coming from a win.  It is obviously not money laundering because as I said the huge money comes from the casino, why is it subject to KYC for Anti-Money Laundering?  It is more likely the casino is finding fault to not handle out the huge win to the player.

Btw, we are all just speculating here, there is no known issue that this Casino is doing such kinds of things, so let us not get biased here and brand all new casinos as one big scam company.  If we do not trust the casino, let's not just play on it.

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It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?

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September 25, 2022, 11:19:56 PM
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This website is the least secure one I've ever seen.
After finding a serious vulnerability, I reported it to their team.
I obviously can't expect bug bounty rewards when the website doesn't have such a program, but this is the first website I've ever bug hunted on that didn't pay ANYTHING.
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My advice is to avoid this site. You could easily lose your crypto due to a malicious actor (If the site bankroll is cleaned).

Well, if what you are talking about is really true, then what you have discovered can be considered a critical vulnerability, which of course is the most sensitive for the existence of casinos and if they treat security issues in this way, it is better to stay away, you never know what other bugs there are on the carpet.

Security is too important because we are risking our funds here. It will be best if they will do something about this matter right away. We all know that a casino site with security issues could easily have a ruined reputation. If they want to build a strong foundation of trust, they have to work on it.

I believe KYC should be mandatory for all sites of this nature. It would not be much effecting and attractive for new members without KYC. Also, I would OP buy a copper member account as well. Running a market campaign would also be mandatory for your site. I hope you can understand my point.


I think that it is necessary to proceed with great caution in this matter of KYC, I do not guarantee that someone does KYC in a recent casino, because in addition to the owner of the casino being anonymous and the casino itself is also anonymous and no one can guarantee that the owner of the casino will not take documents from people and sell on the black market, for that reason people need to be careful with new casinos, besides we are using cryptocurrencies, so KYC should be requested in cases where only suspicious activity was detected, but in this part New casinos have taken advantage of having in the TOS this part where it says they can ask for KYC in case there is any suspicious activity and since they don't even disclose the results of investigations, they created a way for the casino to withhold people's funds whenever they want

It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?

I'm also wondering why he hasn't changed the thread title yet

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September 25, 2022, 11:29:43 PM
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I've read the title and quickly got into it because of the claim of no kyc then read the first page and saw the image post of logfles.
It seems that many casinos are doing this, when at first, they'll tell their customers that they don't have kyc but one has to read the entire T&C for clarifications which isn't new anymore as majority of the casinos really asks for kyc.

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September 25, 2022, 11:41:17 PM
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Thanks for the answer. That calms me down a lot. Too bad my other questions didn't get answered, but it's okay. Maybe they don't want to reveal anything about it yet. I can understand that.  Smiley

But unfortunately, the one that needs an answer is the NO KYC when in fact in their TOS they stated that under some circumstances like when you won a big amount and you are suspected to be using multiple accounts players will undergo KYC, it's already an industry rule and many casinos do not promote themselves as a no KYC when they have this policy under those circumstances.

I checked on OP's account and saw that he logs in today but made a post about the deposit issue, anyway it's their choice not to address this issue and it's our choice not to pick this casino.

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September 26, 2022, 04:03:08 AM
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It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?
maybe He missed those points or does not understand how Thread Title need to be placed?

I am afraid that he will ever change this Unless we let Him realized that it is need to be edited .

there are several sites that tries to claim this "NO KYC" policy  but in the end? they understand changing the title and their claims.

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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time?
But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.

Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?
Again they say they don't require a KYC but if they are planning to require it then they need to register their company first in a legal way and obtain a gambling license before they can do those things. Unlicensed sites that asks for a kyc is illegal and should be reported to the authorities if ever we have seen one.

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September 26, 2022, 07:17:56 PM
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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time?
But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.
Don't get excited about this casino by watching the 'No KYC ' in their ANN thread title. Have you read the terms and privacy policy rules of Euphoriabet.io? 'logfiles' has already highlighted the KYC rules of Euphoriabet in the first page of this thread. Casino follow the rules of their terms when they take any decisions. You won't have the option to deny their request if they ask you to verify your identity. Euphoriabet.io is advertising in the forum with false information.

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September 26, 2022, 09:32:36 PM
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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time?
But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.
Don't get excited about this casino by watching the 'No KYC ' in their ANN thread title. Have you read the terms and privacy policy rules of Euphoriabet.io? 'logfiles' has already highlighted the KYC rules of Euphoriabet in the first page of this thread. Casino follow the rules of their terms when they take any decisions. You won't have the option to deny their request if they ask you to verify your identity. Euphoriabet.io is advertising in the forum with false information.

The NO KYC stuff is written probably because players can deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing the KYC procedure.  You cannot write the whole TOS on the title, can you?  It is also used to catch people's attention, as a marketing strategy and it is not misleading, IMO.  KYC is done to solve disputes between the Site and the player if something like that arises and it is clearly written on the
 TOS, else, the player can enjoy the site service without undergoing KYC procedure.

Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?


The player who signed up gives the site the legal right to collect any user personal information once the requirement stated on the TOS and agreed upon by the player is met. I am not defending the site, just stating the obvious.  Though it is a red flag to not see that the site is licensed, @Euphoriabet if you are licensed by any gambling authority, please put it on you landing page (bottom of the front page where TOS and other important link is found.

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September 26, 2022, 09:39:53 PM
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Don't get excited about this casino by watching the 'No KYC ' in their ANN thread title. Have you read the terms and privacy policy rules of Euphoriabet.io? 'logfiles' has already highlighted the KYC rules of Euphoriabet in the first page of this thread. Casino follow the rules of their terms when they take any decisions. You won't have the option to deny their request if they ask you to verify your identity. Euphoriabet.io is advertising in the forum with false information.

The NO KYC stuff is written probably because players can deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing the KYC procedure.  You cannot write the whole TOS on the title, can you?  It is also used to catch people's attention, as a marketing strategy and it is not misleading, IMO.  KYC is done to solve disputes between the Site and the player if something like that arises and it is clearly written on the
 TOS, else, the player can enjoy the site service without undergoing KYC procedure.
OP clarify this already and yes, they cannot put every as the highlights and it’s our task to read the terms of service and if it’s not on then we always have the option either to continue or no at all. I believe some site also have this, they didn’t ask for KYC at first but if they saw irregularities they might start to you KYC from you which is the normal protocol to protect the site.
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September 26, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
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For starters, why claim to be a "no-KYC" casino when you can actually request KYC verification from any player at any time?
But, how did you know that they will request a KYC later on? I don't think you have a crystal ball there to see what can happen in the future. Maybe they really mean it when they say "NO KYC". They are only a starter so they can start like this but if ever they change their policies later on then they better make a proper announcement in regards to that.

This was already mentioned in this thread. I strongly recommended you read their terms of service.

For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)





Second, who gives you the legal right to collect any user personal information? What is your company? Where are you registered? Which jurisdiction?
Again they say they don't require a KYC but if they are planning to require it then they need to register their company first in a legal way and obtain a gambling license before they can do those things. Unlicensed sites that asks for a kyc is illegal and should be reported to the authorities if ever we have seen one.

Yes, exactly, which is why I'm pointing it out. An anonymous entity operating an illegal, unlicensed online casino have the legal right to ask KYC information from anyone.

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September 26, 2022, 10:21:03 PM
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It's already been six pages of comments in this thread but the title still says "NO KYC" even though it's been pointed out already. I know you said it's only required on certain cases but let me repeat that it's still not a "NO KYC" platform. You probably placed it there for marketing since bitcointalk gamblers loves privacy and anonymity. Don't you have anything else to use than a misleading title?
maybe He missed those points or does not understand how Thread Title need to be placed?

I am afraid that he will ever change this Unless we let Him realized that it is need to be edited .
Hehe I don't know if you're just playing dumb or just blind. Maybe you should go back to the previous pages and read the comments. It's impossible that he missed them or misunderstood the meaning when the community's message was as clear as day. He is most likely deliberately ignoring them.

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anyway it's their choice not to address this issue and it's our choice not to pick this casino.
Exactly.

I didn't even bother checking their site because of the OP's stubbornness.

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The NO KYC stuff is written probably because players can deposit, play and withdraw without undergoing the KYC procedure.  You cannot write the whole TOS on the title, can you?  It is also used to catch people's attention, as a marketing strategy and it is not misleading, IMO.  KYC is done to solve disputes between the Site and the player if something like that arises and it is clearly written on the
 TOS, else, the player can enjoy the site service without undergoing KYC procedure.
Hehe I would agree with you that it's not misleading when they use this "Euphoriabet.io  NO KYC - MAYBE - Crypto Esports Betting  and Roulette".

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September 26, 2022, 10:41:52 PM
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Am hopping to see the ops one day coming up with a good comment that will settle all the drama that has been going on in this thread right from the first page till now, one thing I have noticed about the old is that he is not actively involved in the discussion that is going on in on this thread.

But the truth is, the casino may witness low patronage if the admin is not actively involved in this discussion going on in thos threads and trying to work on the feedback from members here.
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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
just like every casino ? so you best say that you will not ask KYC upon depositing but will do in Withdrawal , because most of the casino (specially those who had a scam profie) says this anyway that they will not ask KYC but when they need to withdraw? some will be accused of being cheater and violating their rules.
though i am not literally called you as one , but best to not Put that Capitalized word "NO KYC" when the truth is? you will ask anyway.

I think that you are right that mate because like what other casino did they not require any kyc upon deposits but if the account has suspicious of cheating or violating the rules of regulations of the forum then they ask kyc which is needed in order to stop those abusive gamblers but let's wait for the review from other gamblers how they manage or handle their customers because we can say that casino is good if they have a good services from their customers.
but still lets give them the benefits of the doubt mate until it happens , but of course this will be a warning if ever some of members here wanna consider depositing and playing.
i will keep an Eye about each posts from them team before considering to play as that NO KYC thing is always been a way to check their legitimacy .









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The player who signed up gives the site the legal right to collect any user personal information once the requirement stated on the TOS and agreed upon by the player is met. I am not defending the site, just stating the obvious.  Though it is a red flag to not see that the site is licensed, @Euphoriabet if you are licensed by any gambling authority, please put it on you landing page (bottom of the front page where TOS and other important link is found.

I don't think I have euphoriabet.io there is a license from any authorized gambling authority, at least at the moment, it would be posted on their website, this is posted without the necessary reminders.
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The player who signed up gives the site the legal right to collect any user personal information once the requirement stated on the TOS and agreed upon by the player is met. I am not defending the site, just stating the obvious.  Though it is a red flag to not see that the site is licensed, @Euphoriabet if you are licensed by any gambling authority, please put it on you landing page (bottom of the front page where TOS and other important link is found.

I don't think I have euphoriabet.io there is a license from any authorized gambling authority, at least at the moment, it would be posted on their website, this is posted without the necessary reminders.

we no have license
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we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.
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The player who signed up gives the site the legal right to collect any user personal information once the requirement stated on the TOS and agreed upon by the player is met. I am not defending the site, just stating the obvious.  Though it is a red flag to not see that the site is licensed, @Euphoriabet if you are licensed by any gambling authority, please put it on you landing page (bottom of the front page where TOS and other important link is found.

I don't think I have euphoriabet.io there is a license from any authorized gambling authority, at least at the moment, it would be posted on their website, this is posted without the necessary reminders.

we no have license

Even if an online casino is licensed and fully regulated, gamblers have a variety of personal and also objective reasons for not wanting to submit KYC information. But, in your case, this goes to another level.

Your casino is completely unregulated, meaning it doesn't offer any security for its customers. It's not even a real company, but instead a website running an unlicensed and an illegal gambling operation. You can't expect people not to be skeptical of your intentions if you aren't licensed and if your site isn't even registered under any kind of company or business name. You can't expect people to want to provide personal information in this kind of situation. The best way forward is for you to get licensed and regulated as soon as possible, but until that happens, it may be best if no one has any kind of relationship with you. Just my two cents on the matter.

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September 30, 2022, 02:37:47 AM
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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
just like every casino ? so you best say that you will not ask KYC upon depositing but will do in Withdrawal , because most of the casino (specially those who had a scam profie) says this anyway that they will not ask KYC but when they need to withdraw? some will be accused of being cheater and violating their rules.
though i am not literally called you as one , but best to not Put that Capitalized word "NO KYC" when the truth is? you will ask anyway.

I think that you are right that mate because like what other casino did they not require any kyc upon deposits but if the account has suspicious of cheating or violating the rules of regulations of the forum then they ask kyc which is needed in order to stop those abusive gamblers but let's wait for the review from other gamblers how they manage or handle their customers because we can say that casino is good if they have a good services from their customers.
but still lets give them the benefits of the doubt mate until it happens , but of course this will be a warning if ever some of members here wanna consider depositing and playing.
i will keep an Eye about each posts from them team before considering to play as that NO KYC thing is always been a way to check their legitimacy .

I also think the same, perhaps here in the forum many jump on a company to tell them that they are doing things wrong, that they are fraudulent, that it will not work, that scares potential companies, causing less movement in the forum, if anything What brings prosperity to the forum are the new companies, it provides employment and fun to everyone, especially the players who are very active, so it is not the time to start debating, if there are some who have already made deposits and if they have had an uncle experience is nothing more than sharing it, everything now is good to do with tests, perhaps things here are handled very quickly and sometimes it is not appropriate.

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September 30, 2022, 02:56:58 AM
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we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

If they consider getting a license then there is a very big possibility that it will change, namely KYC, KYC is no longer done if there is something suspicious about the player but will become mandatory here, which is why many casinos that have long been implementing KYC following the rules of the license, but it is undeniable that being licensed will make this gambling website legit and serious

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hey , welcome Euphoriabet.io , I checked that at some point there is an issue about delay in withdrawal but instant in deposit , maybe better to work at this because gamblers in this market specially in this forum hates delay when it comes to withdrawing because we are depositing with confidence .
anyway Hope to see you here long time like most of my favorite casino sites.

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We do not require KYC if the player does not violate the rules, we can request KYC if the player is suspected of cheating , betting on contractual matches, multi-accounting
just like every casino ? so you best say that you will not ask KYC upon depositing but will do in Withdrawal , because most of the casino (specially those who had a scam profie) says this anyway that they will not ask KYC but when they need to withdraw? some will be accused of being cheater and violating their rules.
though i am not literally called you as one , but best to not Put that Capitalized word "NO KYC" when the truth is? you will ask anyway.

I think that you are right that mate because like what other casino did they not require any kyc upon deposits but if the account has suspicious of cheating or violating the rules of regulations of the forum then they ask kyc which is needed in order to stop those abusive gamblers but let's wait for the review from other gamblers how they manage or handle their customers because we can say that casino is good if they have a good services from their customers.
but still lets give them the benefits of the doubt mate until it happens , but of course this will be a warning if ever some of members here wanna consider depositing and playing.
i will keep an Eye about each posts from them team before considering to play as that NO KYC thing is always been a way to check their legitimacy .

Yes you are right that mate let's give them enough time to prove that they are not asking More KYC in terms of depositing and withdrawal from their customers.  But as I observe maybe this casino telling the truth but its better to be more vigilant and secure so for me if I play here I use a small amount but after that if they are good in managing then theres a chance that ill put such good an out of bet.

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September 30, 2022, 07:54:51 PM
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Yes you are right that mate let's give them enough time to prove that they are not asking More KYC in terms of depositing and withdrawal from their customers.  But as I observe maybe this casino telling the truth but its better to be more vigilant and secure so for me if I play here I use a small amount but after that if they are good in managing then theres a chance that ill put such good an out of bet.

What's there to prove? Their Terms of Service clearly state that they require KYC from their customers, so there is no need to prove anything.

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)




In my opinion, there are only two possibilities here: They are lying about "NO KYC" in the title of this topic, or their Terms of service and AML policy aren't true. So in any case, they are lying and/or misleading potential customers.

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we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

Lets just see the fact that there are many licensed casino become scam, it means that license is not really giving a legitimate view from players. They can run the project without license, as long as they can prove themselves to be reputable and reliable casino then license is not that important. As a gambler I do not really see or feel the benefits of the license.

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October 01, 2022, 07:31:32 PM
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we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

Lets just see the fact that there are many licensed casino become scam, it means that license is not really giving a legitimate view from players. They can run the project without license, as long as they can prove themselves to be reputable and reliable casino then license is not that important. As a gambler I do not really see or feel the benefits of the license.
License are just there to prove that they are a legal business. The trustfulness will depends on the gambler, Having a license is a additional points to me if I want to play on a new casino, Though this is not a deal breaker for me especially that I honestly don't look for license intentionally. I only see license as a way of a casino to build a trust to their possible customers given that they are paying tax and they abide the law.
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we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

Lets just see the fact that there are many licensed casino become scam, it means that license is not really giving a legitimate view from players. They can run the project without license, as long as they can prove themselves to be reputable and reliable casino then license is not that important. As a gambler I do not really see or feel the benefits of the license.
License are just there to prove that they are a legal business. The trustfulness will depends on the gambler, Having a license is a additional points to me if I want to play on a new casino, Though this is not a deal breaker for me especially that I honestly don't look for license intentionally. I only see license as a way of a casino to build a trust to their possible customers given that they are paying tax and they abide the law.

Well, I agree. There is no guarantee that a licensed casino cannot scam. However, when it comes to KYC and my personal information, I would never give them to some unregulated site without even a license or a legal backing. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site, which means there is no legal regulation requiring KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data. There is no way to tell what they are doing with it, it could be sold on the black market or used for all sorts of illegal purposes. As they are not governed by any laws, they are free to do as they please.

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October 05, 2022, 02:27:57 AM
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Well all this when it comes to a casino that does not require KYC, it is well known that it attracts attention at once, but something must be taken into account, if you reserve the right to request KYC, what are those criteria apart from the ones you say? Suppose I get to play and win $7k-$10k, would they require KYC? Or what criteria would they take? because I know that a figure from then on for some casinos is considered somewhat high. It is very unpleasant and it has happened to me that when I go to make a withdrawal in casinos that are relatively new, well there are always "buts" so that is something that nobody likes.



we no have license

Thank you for the answer, although it was visible on your casino's website, do you think that this may cause distrust on the part of potential players, maybe you should think about purchasing a license? It seems to me that this would be a good step towards the development of your online gambling platform and a guarantee for players in case of disputes.

Lets just see the fact that there are many licensed casino become scam, it means that license is not really giving a legitimate view from players. They can run the project without license, as long as they can prove themselves to be reputable and reliable casino then license is not that important. As a gambler I do not really see or feel the benefits of the license.
License are just there to prove that they are a legal business. The trustfulness will depends on the gambler, Having a license is a additional points to me if I want to play on a new casino, Though this is not a deal breaker for me especially that I honestly don't look for license intentionally. I only see license as a way of a casino to build a trust to their possible customers given that they are paying tax and they abide the law.

Well, I agree. There is no guarantee that a licensed casino cannot scam. However, when it comes to KYC and my personal information, I would never give them to some unregulated site without even a license or a legal backing. Euphoriabet.io is an unlicensed and unregulated gambling site, which means there is no legal regulation requiring KYC from players, and there is no legal protection of our personal data. There is no way to tell what they are doing with it, it could be sold on the black market or used for all sorts of illegal purposes. As they are not governed by any laws, they are free to do as they please.

Well these things are very varied in the ways of thinking, it is true, you can participate in a casino with everything regulated and licensed, but in the same way they can scam, if they ask for KYC or not it is obvious that they can do it, on the other hand I am also a participant that leaving a KYC anywhere is not reliable, I am sure that the data can be leaked at any time, I think that this is already a problem or a risk that we all must assume, in casinos that are authentic and require KYC I think that when asking for KYC you have to piggyback them and trust a little, because it is impossible at this point to be in a casino and not ask for KYC.

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It's very interesting when there is a site that doesn't require a kyc like this, because for me some people need privacy, or other reasons not to provide their identity card. Plus the existence of a first deposit bonus, it really attracts the attention of potential new users.

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It's very interesting when there is a site that doesn't require a kyc like this, because for me some people need privacy, or other reasons not to provide their identity card. Plus the existence of a first deposit bonus, it really attracts the attention of potential new users.
It looks like you haven't been paying attention to the thread. They will request for KYC whenever they feel like under the pretext of "suspicious activity". Well, that's what most casinos do anyway. They won't request for KYC when you sign up and make deposits, but the moment you win huge and try to withdraw, KYC will be requested.

Here you go;
You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)




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October 14, 2022, 09:34:39 PM
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Nowadays you can always assume that every random site will ask for KYC at some point. I don't believe in sites that say they don't. Or you must have an older site that has lived up to that. What I think is a very bad thing is that the subject of the ANN states that no KYC is requested, but that they then mention in the general terms and conditions that a KYC can be requested. Then you have to be more open and honest with the forum and (potential) customers. In my view, this is misleading what the site is doing now. I would therefore change the subject to bring back credibility.

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Nowadays you can always assume that every random site will ask for KYC at some point. I don't believe in sites that say they don't. Or you must have an older site that has lived up to that. What I think is a very bad thing is that the subject of the ANN states that no KYC is requested, but that they then mention in the general terms and conditions that a KYC can be requested. Then you have to be more open and honest with the forum and (potential) customers. In my view, this is misleading what the site is doing now. I would therefore change the subject to bring back credibility.

they should rectify the title thread as based on their terms they can require kyc if they deem necessary. or maybe, state that no kyc for certain period of time while they are starting in this business. but in case of huge winnings, more then likely they will ask the player to submit kyc. what is the likelihood that such situation will happen? remember, they can easily allege the player that the funds come from unauthorized entities, if they say so.

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To be honest, this is not the first casino that claim they don't ask for kyc but when you read their ToS you find out that this is not true! I won't say they are trying to deceive their customers but they definitely need to be more precise and clear about such matters. Like saying: kyc is not mandatory but we reserve the right to ask you to verify your identity at any moment if needed.
Personally I have no problem with kyc if it's done to comply with laws. But I've a problem with casinos using it for the wrong purposes like scamming players or delaying payments when they run out of funds..

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October 14, 2022, 11:11:42 PM
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It's very interesting when there is a site that doesn't require a kyc like this, because for me some people need privacy, or other reasons not to provide their identity card. Plus the existence of a first deposit bonus, it really attracts the attention of potential new users.
It looks like you haven't been paying attention to the thread. They will request for KYC whenever they feel like under the pretext of "suspicious activity". Well, that's what most casinos do anyway. They won't request for KYC when you sign up and make deposits, but the moment you win huge and try to withdraw, KYC will be requested.

Here you go;
You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)
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But the issue is, what is their right to collect KYC when their platform is unregulated?  It is the right thing to not ask for KYC since they don't have the right legally to ask for anyone's information because they can't give an excuse like the authority asking them to.  I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.

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To be honest, this is not the first casino that claim they don't ask for kyc but when you read their ToS you find out that this is not true! I won't say they are trying to deceive their customers but they definitely need to be more precise and clear about such matters. Like saying: kyc is not mandatory but we reserve the right to ask you to verify your identity at any moment if needed.
Personally I have no problem with kyc if it's done to comply with laws. But I've a problem with casinos using it for the wrong purposes like scamming players or delaying payments when they run out of funds..

And in this case, probably the latter will be the reason since the casino isn't complying with the law by not having a license to operate.

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October 14, 2022, 11:30:56 PM
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I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.

Well, the casino has the right to do anything they want, that's how casinos works, they sate the rules and if the users aren't agree to those rules, then they can leave the site.

The problem about provide KYC to a not regulated site is: If the site have a hack and your data gets leaked, then there is a not a real company to blame or to sue. That's why isn't recommended to provide your data to sites that we don't trust.

By the way, a big -1 for the thread tittle, that no KYC is a lie.

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October 14, 2022, 11:59:44 PM
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And in this case, probably the latter will be the reason since the casino isn't complying with the law by not having a license to operate.
Even if they are not licensed, they still need to take some procautions to protect their business. Imagine if some players create multi accounts to abuse one of their bonuses. How can they prove all those accounts belong to the same person if they can't force him to verify his identity?
For the moment the only thing they did wrong is their claim on the announcement thread which contradicts what's stated in their ToS. They need to fix this but I won't go as far as accusing them of planning to scam just because of it.

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October 15, 2022, 01:00:31 PM
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I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.

Well, the casino has the right to do anything they want, that's how casinos works, they sate the rules and if the users aren't agree to those rules, then they can leave the site.

Well, in this context, to "have a right" refers to being lawful or performing actions that are in accordance with the law. Therefore, I think members here are right when they say that casino sites have NO RIGHT to collect personal data from their users if they themselves are not regulated and in accordance with international or local laws. I mean, they can, and many online platforms do, but that does not mean it is legal or that they have the right to do so. I know, semantics.   Wink

By the way, a big -1 for the thread tittle, that no KYC is a lie.

That is right! I mean, that is so wrong.  Cheesy

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October 15, 2022, 01:17:13 PM
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But the issue is, what is their right to collect KYC when their platform is unregulated?  It is the right thing to not ask for KYC since they don't have the right legally to ask for anyone's information because they can't give an excuse like the authority asking them to.  I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.
Well, to be fair, you also have a right not to sign up on such unregulated casinos that may collect your KYC at one point, don't you?  Cheesy
IMO, I already detest the casino given that they put a bold claim on NO KYC in the title, yet they actually ask for it whenever they want. It's a huge trap for noobs who don't read threads or don't even read terms of service when signing up.

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But the issue is, what is their right to collect KYC when their platform is unregulated?  It is the right thing to not ask for KYC since they don't have the right legally to ask for anyone's information because they can't give an excuse like the authority asking them to.  I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.
Well, to be fair, you also have a right not to sign up on such unregulated casinos that may collect your KYC at one point, don't you?  Cheesy
IMO, I already detest the casino given that they put a bold claim on NO KYC in the title, yet they actually ask for it whenever they want. It's a huge trap for noobs who don't read threads or don't even read terms of service when signing up.
This issue is the same to the casinos which promise that their bonus have no wager requirement but upon checking out their terms or service, it's clearly written that each bonus must be wagered. I know it was also the gamblers fault on why they got trapped on this but I think the casino itself can also be blame here for misleading marketing.

If only they will tell the truth, I don't think there are gamblers who will complain about it because some of us gambler do also check out the thread before we play but we only avoid reading the terms or use because they are compose of a wall of text and we think they aren't really that important.

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Not even this there are many casinos which didn't ask for KYC. This is not a new one for me. But honestly I will visit and also check the features. And then I will make myself in. In this casino and still I don't have any decision about this casino.

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But the issue is, what is their right to collect KYC when their platform is unregulated?  It is the right thing to not ask for KYC since they don't have the right legally to ask for anyone's information because they can't give an excuse like the authority asking them to.  I agree with decodx that the platform has no right to ask for KYC since they are unregulated by the government.
Well, to be fair, you also have a right not to sign up on such unregulated casinos that may collect your KYC at one point, don't you?  Cheesy
IMO, I already detest the casino given that they put a bold claim on NO KYC in the title, yet they actually ask for it whenever they want. It's a huge trap for noobs who don't read threads or don't even read terms of service when signing up.
This issue is the same to the casinos which promise that their bonus have no wager requirement but upon checking out their terms or service, it's clearly written that each bonus must be wagered. I know it was also the gamblers fault on why they got trapped on this but I think the casino itself can also be blame here for misleading marketing.

If only they will tell the truth, I don't think there are gamblers who will complain about it because some of us gambler do also check out the thread before we play but we only avoid reading the terms or use because they are compose of a wall of text and we think they aren't really that important.

Before using the bonus, you can check the rules posted on the main page of the site, where did you see that the bonus dont need  wager?
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Why would you need time to answer such a simple question!
If the game is fair and it uses a provably fair algorithm then simply explain how it works and how the results are being generated.
You certainly realize that many will be reluctant to make a deposit and play a game they can't verify the fairness of its results especially if it's being provided by a new casino.

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As it is not completely KYC free. So I don't think it is logical to mention No KYC here.  Because here maybe no Kyc will be asked to sign up and deposit.  But when someone wins huge amounts and goes to withdraw them, of course this site will ask the user for KYC, which many other casino sites do. So how is this a KYC free casino?

It's not. Not even a little bit.

Apparently, Euphoriabet can (and probably will) request KYC from their customers whenever they want, not just when someone wins big. Just look at their Terms of service and Privacy policy, it's pretty clear that KYC is a thing for them. They can request it at any time and for any reason, and you have to provide all the documents within three days.


For a new casino looking top build reputation from scratch. Don't you think the NO KYC claim is dishonest and harms people's trust towards your service. When you talk about NO KYC. then there should be no single case of a customer getting KYCed

You have so many paragraphs talking about KYC and AML policy on your terms of service - (archived) and Privacy policy - (archived)




Ignoring this issue and being dishonest with the community only makes things look worse.

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October 20, 2022, 02:21:58 PM
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Before using the bonus, you can check the rules posted on the main page of the site, where did you see that the bonus dont need  wager?

He didn't say that. He just compared your dishonesty and lack of integrity to some other casino sites that use similar tricks to lure unsuspecting customers.



How can it be a non KYC site where they can ask for KYC from their users anytime?  It frustrates me because I think it's a completely disrespectful speech.  So it will make this casino run for criticism.  And I think no conscious gambler will be interested in gambling here when they understand the difference between KYC and NO KYC.

Yes, that's right. And this is the worst part:

we no have license

Euphoriabet is an illegal gambling site. It does not follow any laws and has no accountability for what it does with your personal information. They could sell it on the black market or use it for all sorts of illegal purposes. As they aren't governed by any laws, they're free to do as they please. Everyone who thinks of trusting this site should be aware of this fact.

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October 27, 2022, 01:56:24 AM
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And in this case, probably the latter will be the reason since the casino isn't complying with the law by not having a license to operate.
Even if they are not licensed, they still need to take some procautions to protect their business. Imagine if some players create multi accounts to abuse one of their bonuses. How can they prove all those accounts belong to the same person if they can't force him to verify his identity?
For the moment the only thing they did wrong is their claim on the announcement thread which contradicts what's stated in their ToS. They need to fix this but I won't go as far as accusing them of planning to scam just because of it.

That is a great question, it is always good that they can ask them, although I think that a casino can control this if it allows a maximum of 1 or 2 public IP connections, and more would be taken as multi-accounts, and I think that is one of the ways they can do to control it right? for me that would be a formidable strategy, of course the SSL that I would use would be the latest and I would have a security that I would have to spend a lot on it, but it is worth it if you want the site to emerge and become quite strong and to the nicel of the casinos of the majority that exist in the forum, I think that this is one of the things to take into account.

How can it be a non KYC site where they can ask for KYC from their users anytime?  It frustrates me because I think it's a completely disrespectful speech.  So it will make this casino run for criticism.  And I think no conscious gambler will be interested in gambling here when they understand the difference between KYC and NO KYC.

Yes, that's right. And this is the worst part:
As a new casino site they should always have good performance and avoid some small mistakes.  As they did in the headline of this thread, they said that their site does not require KYC, but when a user sees that there they can ask for KYC at any time, they will misunderstand them and recognize them as frauds and lose trust in them.  They should stay away as they are a new site and they will act as a minus point to promote their site

Well that is a very important piece of advice, because there are players who are fascinated by their privacy and anonymity, in fact they are very demanding with it, and there are some who do not care which platform to enter in order to ensure their non-identity, and if they feel cheated, it is something that should not be done, the description is unique and I think that the worst thing is that someone suffers from disappointment in a gaming site, because he never comes back, and apart from that he tells his friends to stay away from that site already that it is not recommended, due to deceit, and for promising something that they cannot fulfill, that is something that they have to take into account.

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How can it be a non KYC site where they can ask for KYC from their users anytime?  It frustrates me because I think it's a completely disrespectful speech.  So it will make this casino run for criticism.  And I think no conscious gambler will be interested in gambling here when they understand the difference between KYC and NO KYC.

Yes, that's right. And this is the worst part:
As a new casino site they should always have good performance and avoid some small mistakes.  As they did in the headline of this thread, they said that their site does not require KYC, but when a user sees that there they can ask for KYC at any time, they will misunderstand them and recognize them as frauds and lose trust in them.  They should stay away as they are a new site and they will act as a minus point to promote their site

Well that is a very important piece of advice, because there are players who are fascinated by their privacy and anonymity, in fact they are very demanding with it, and there are some who do not care which platform to enter in order to ensure their non-identity, and if they feel cheated, it is something that should not be done, the description is unique and I think that the worst thing is that someone suffers from disappointment in a gaming site, because he never comes back, and apart from that he tells his friends to stay away from that site already that it is not recommended, due to deceit, and for promising something that they cannot fulfill, that is something that they have to take into account.

Most of the conscious gamblers always look at the privacy of the side and then start gambling there but there are some gamblers who are addicted to excessive gambling.  They often do not follow the site's privacy policy.  But those who don't see this and go to gamble here will face a problem.  So no kyc should be removed from the subject of this topic as soon as possible

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Hello i can not login on euphoriabet.io from few days back, they are not responding to emails and chat assasults, stay aalert...
Do you have any funds in your account? Why you have decided to play at an underrated site like Euphoriabet! They only support Esports betting. Their representative hasn't made any post here for almost one and a half months. Although the representative was active here a few days ago. I couldn't find the review of Euphoriabet.io on any well known review making site.

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Hello i can not login on euphoriabet.io from few days back, they are not responding to emails and chat assasults, stay aalert...

Sorry, we have some troubles, with our support services. You was responded with some delay. It was fixed at this moment.
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Hello i can not login on euphoriabet.io from few days back, they are not responding to emails and chat assasults, stay aalert...

Sorry, we have some troubles, with our support services. You was responded with some delay. It was fixed at this moment.

Good to hear that.

Although this is just a small nuisance that I noticed when I open your website, the misspelling of "Payments".



I'm not the best as far as spelling goes as well, but there could be players that will notice it and somewhat it might reflect on you as well.

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Hello i can not login on euphoriabet.io from few days back, they are not responding to emails and chat assasults, stay aalert...

Sorry, we have some troubles, with our support services. You was responded with some delay. It was fixed at this moment.

Good to hear that.

Although this is just a small nuisance that I noticed when I open your website, the misspelling of "Payments".



I'm not the best as far as spelling goes as well, but there could be players that will notice it and somewhat it might reflect on you as well.

thanks for the tip, we'll fix it
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The DOTA 2 game match is one of the matches that I have been waiting for.
To be honest, I always bet in every match on Dota 2 because I really like the game myself and used to play the game Dota with my friends when I was a teenager.
In the last Dota 2 match I managed to collect winnings from betting on that match, but unfortunately in the final match Team Tundra VS Team Secret and I bet 50% of the winnings from the previous bet on Team Secret but the end result was Team Tundra. who won the final.


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February 11, 2023, 01:02:23 PM
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i withdraw money 9th of february 20:24 (#1046) withdrawal is still pending and none answer to mail i sent. You said withdrawal are fast but still didnt get mine or and update regarding it

my username is torovic

please check and process my withdrawal


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We answered to your mail. Your account was under review by the provider due to abnormal bets, so the response time is so long.
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We withdraw money within 30 minutes, please tell us your nickname, we would like to check your case

hello

i withdraw money 9th of february 20:24 (#1046) withdrawal is still pending and none answer to mail i sent. You said withdrawal are fast but still didnt get mine or and update regarding it

my username is torovic

please check and process my withdrawal




We answered to your mail. Your account was under review by the provider due to abnormal bets, so the response time is so long.
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No you didnt answer to my mail, and now i have serious doubt you are scammer bookie.

what abnormal betting? i made 3 deposit (140, 120, 100) so 360 total deposit and want to withdraw my balance 523 usdt, so only 160 usdt in plus is balance and you checking me about abnormal betting.

Please withdraw my balance or i will be forced to open thread in Scam Accusations, because now this most like look like SCAM bookie, if they make trouble for paying 160 usdt of proofite.

Plus neither of my bets werent bigger than 150 usdt

Also can someone from moderators give me advice should i open acusation thread instantly because this explanation sound ridiciously
and if not solved quickly my recomendation to all is
STAY OUT OF THIS BOOKIE


UPDATE: JUST NOW MY WITHDRAWAL IS REJECTED ON THIS BOOKIE BUT ON BALANCE RETURNED JUST 100 USDT INSTEAD OF 523, WOW BIG SCAM  BOOKIE FOR SURE NOW
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February 12, 2023, 02:24:56 PM
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hello

i withdraw money 9th of february 20:24 (#1046) withdrawal is still pending and none answer to mail i sent. You said withdrawal are fast but still didnt get mine or and update regarding it

my username is torovic

please check and process my withdrawal




We answered to your mail. Your account was under review by the provider due to abnormal bets, so the response time is so long


No you didnt answer to my mail, and now i have serious doubt you are scammer bookie.

what abnormal betting? i made 3 deposit (140, 120, 100) so 360 total deposit and want to withdraw my balance 523 usdt, so only 160 usdt in plus is balance and you checking me about abnormal betting.

Please withdraw my balance or i will be forced to open thread in Scam Accusations, because now this most like look like SCAM bookie, if they make trouble for paying 160 usdt of proofite.

Plus neither of my bets werent bigger than 150 usdt


I believe you know this is a scam accusation and I would advise you create a thread for this on the scam accusations board here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0. as it is, you claim you are being scammed of your funds but here you have no evidence to back up your claims. It is or might be assumed you are not serious about your claims not until there is evidence to back up your claims because nobody would take your complaint seriously  otherwise you will be seen as a paid stunt to discredit the name and reputation of the casino which in the real sense seems right because you have nothing to hold unto as evidence that your were being scammed by the casino which you claimed you deposited the funds with.  So I would advise you to do the needful by creating a thread as link  seen above, make your complaints with your proof.

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February 12, 2023, 03:06:16 PM
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i withdraw money 9th of february 20:24 (#1046) withdrawal is still pending and none answer to mail i sent. You said withdrawal are fast but still didnt get mine or and update regarding it

my username is torovic

please check and process my withdrawal




We answered to your mail. Your account was under review by the provider due to abnormal bets, so the response time is so long


No you didnt answer to my mail, and now i have serious doubt you are scammer bookie.

what abnormal betting? i made 3 deposit (140, 120, 100) so 360 total deposit and want to withdraw my balance 523 usdt, so only 160 usdt in plus is balance and you checking me about abnormal betting.

Please withdraw my balance or i will be forced to open thread in Scam Accusations, because now this most like look like SCAM bookie, if they make trouble for paying 160 usdt of proofite.

Plus neither of my bets werent bigger than 150 usdt


I believe you know this is a scam accusation and I would advise you create a thread for this on the scam accusations board here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0. as it is, you claim you are being scammed of your funds but here you have no evidence to back up your claims. It is or might be assumed you are not serious about your claims not until there is evidence to back up your claims because nobody would take your complaint seriously  otherwise you will be seen as a paid stunt to discredit the name and reputation of the casino which in the real sense seems right because you have nothing to hold unto as evidence that your were being scammed by the casino which you claimed you deposited the funds with.  So I would advise you to do the needful by creating a thread as link  seen above, make your complaints with your proof.



ok i will its all clear here luckily i took scrshots of transactions and after they reject it
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February 12, 2023, 04:40:39 PM
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We withdraw money within 30 minutes, please tell us your nickname, we would like to check your case

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i withdraw money 9th of february 20:24 (#1046) withdrawal is still pending and none answer to mail i sent. You said withdrawal are fast but still didnt get mine or and update regarding it

my username is torovic

please check and process my withdrawal




We answered to your mail. Your account was under review by the provider due to abnormal bets, so the response time is so long.
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I post in scam.accusation thread so please resonse

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439598.0
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February 14, 2023, 07:29:46 AM
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We withdraw money within 30 minutes, please tell us your nickname, we would like to check your case

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i withdraw money 9th of february 20:24 (#1046) withdrawal is still pending and none answer to mail i sent. You said withdrawal are fast but still didnt get mine or and update regarding it

my username is torovic

please check and process my withdrawal


We answered to your mail. Your account was under review by the provider due to abnormal bets, so the response time is so long.

I post in scam.accusation thread so please resonse

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439598.0

All your bets were placed on matches with abnormal activity (matches with a predetermined result) and our provider canceled them so your account will be closed after you withdraw your last deposit, play fair and you will not have problems with payouts
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Quote from: torkens

link=topic=5414541.msg61743451#msg61743451 date=1676072961

We withdraw money within 30 minutes, please tell us your nickname, we would like to check your case

hello

i withdraw money 9th of february 20:24 (#1046) withdrawal is still pending and none answer to mail i sent. You said withdrawal are fast but still didnt get mine or and update regarding it

my username is torovic

please check and process my withdrawal


We answered to your mail. Your account was under review by the provider due to abnormal bets, so the response time is so long.

I post in scam.accusation thread so please resonse

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439598.0

All your bets were placed on matches with abnormal activity (matches with a predetermined result) and our provider canceled them so your account will be closed after you withdraw your last deposit, play fair and you will not have problems with payouts



You are joking? Returning me only 100 usdt despite i deposited 340 it means only winning bets were abnormal bet and you remember its a fact only after i decided to withdraw and not before.

That would sound resonable if you sanction with void after first suspicious bet not after withdrawal demand.

And ofcourse loosing bet until then are clear nth abnormal or suspicious 🤣

After this explanation i can only say stay out of this bookie for sure.
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Could you please provide a clarification on the specific abnormal activity that you are referring to? It would be greatly appreciated if you could provide some evidence to substantiate your claim. This would allow us to better understand the situation and make informed decisions based on the facts presented.

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Nice manner, act like nothing happen, spam so next in line dont see that you are scammer bookie
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Nice manner, act like nothing happen, spam so next in line dont see that you are scammer bookie

none of the honest players on our site have any problems, rather you are a scammer player who breaks the rules and then pretends not to understand why his account was banned
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Nice manner, act like nothing happen, spam so next in line dont see that you are scammer bookie

none of the honest players on our site have any problems, rather you are a scammer player who breaks the rules and then pretends not to understand why his account was banned

It would be great if you keep everything transparent. Can you show us how did the player cheated at your site? Or atleast list the terms and conditions that the player has violated. It’s really hard to judge who is right and who is wrong from these plain text and conversations. Please if possible provide some visual proofs like screenshots or video, through which we can make a conclusion.

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Welcome bet today to UEFA Europa League https://euphoriabet.io/sports

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Nice manner, act like nothing happen, spam so next in line dont see that you are scammer bookie

none of the honest players on our site have any problems, rather you are a scammer player who breaks the rules and then pretends not to understand why his account was banned

It would be great if you keep everything transparent. Can you show us how did the player cheated at your site? Or atleast list the terms and conditions that the player has violated. It’s really hard to judge who is right and who is wrong from these plain text and conversations. Please if possible provide some visual proofs like screenshots or video, through which we can make a conclusion.


He cant do that because i didnt cheat, they simply dont pay winnings, what kind of cheater earn 160$ and only after 3rd deposit, and what kind of bookie return just 100 out of 360 deposit.
Answer SCAMMER BOOKIE
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He cant do that because i didnt cheat, they simply dont pay winnings, what kind of cheater earn 160$ and only after 3rd deposit, and what kind of bookie return just 100 out of 360 deposit.
Answer SCAMMER BOOKIE
I'm also concerned and still haven't finished thinking there are still cases of fraud like what happened to you.
Maybe you have definitely experienced disappointment because of the total amount of money you deposited, you can only take none of it 50%.
But why did you trust them so much in the past that you dared to make a deposit with this sizable amount? You should be more careful every time you want to try to play and make a deposit with a slightly larger amount.
Hopefully this can be used as a lesson for you or all of us so that in the future there will be no more cases like this.

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February 26, 2023, 12:20:43 PM
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Welcome bet today to UEFA Europa League https://euphoriabet.io/sports

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Nice manner, act like nothing happen, spam so next in line dont see that you are scammer bookie

none of the honest players on our site have any problems, rather you are a scammer player who breaks the rules and then pretends not to understand why his account was banned

It would be great if you keep everything transparent. Can you show us how did the player cheated at your site? Or atleast list the terms and conditions that the player has violated. It’s really hard to judge who is right and who is wrong from these plain text and conversations. Please if possible provide some visual proofs like screenshots or video, through which we can make a conclusion.


He cant do that because i didnt cheat, they simply dont pay winnings, what kind of cheater earn 160$ and only after 3rd deposit, and what kind of bookie return just 100 out of 360 deposit.
Answer SCAMMER BOOKIE
i agree with @Nrcewker statement

at least for @torkens and @euphoriabet provide some evidence that we can see together here so we know who is wrong and who is right as @Nrcewker said.
we are in the gambling section and anyone can accuse each other of fraud but if the accusations are without proof we cannot trust anyone here.


I'm also concerned and still haven't finished thinking there are still cases of fraud like what happened to you.
Maybe you have definitely experienced disappointment because of the total amount of money you deposited, you can only take none of it 50%.
But why did you trust them so much in the past that you dared to make a deposit with this sizable amount? You should be more careful every time you want to try to play and make a deposit with a slightly larger amount.
Hopefully this can be used as a lesson for you or all of us so that in the future there will be no more cases like this.
I hope you will read before making a statement like the one you wrote.
you make that statement as if you believe in one side only. although this case is like mutual accusations, both of them did not provide any evidence. so as @Nrcewker said we will not know who is right who is wrong because both of them do not provide real evidence.


so maybe you need to understand the case a little more before writing a reply

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He cant do that because i didnt cheat, they simply dont pay winnings, what kind of cheater earn 160$ and only after 3rd deposit, and what kind of bookie return just 100 out of 360 deposit.
Answer SCAMMER BOOKIE
I'm also concerned and still haven't finished thinking there are still cases of fraud like what happened to you.
Maybe you have definitely experienced disappointment because of the total amount of money you deposited, you can only take none of it 50%.
But why did you trust them so much in the past that you dared to make a deposit with this sizable amount? You should be more careful every time you want to try to play and make a deposit with a slightly larger amount.
Hopefully this can be used as a lesson for you or all of us so that in the future there will be no more cases like this.

Of course, frauds are going to happen from time to time. You can't expect that those fraudsters will stop because this is the business that they love the most. They are too lazy to grind on a legit job but all what they want is easy money. All we can do to avoid them is to always read feed backs before we join a casino. It doesn't matter if it's a new or an old one. He trust the site before because his withdrawals went smoothly but he got only screwed on his 3rd withdrawal.

I think if we are on his situation, we will hardly suspect the site. This is one of the hardest part so it's better to stick only on our limits and put your 100% trust on any online platforms that you use.

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February 28, 2023, 10:01:28 AM
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Nice manner, act like nothing happen, spam so next in line dont see that you are scammer bookie

none of the honest players on our site have any problems, rather you are a scammer player who breaks the rules and then pretends not to understand why his account was banned

It would be great if you keep everything transparent. Can you show us how did the player cheated at your site? Or atleast list the terms and conditions that the player has violated. It’s really hard to judge who is right and who is wrong from these plain text and conversations. Please if possible provide some visual proofs like screenshots or video, through which we can make a conclusion.


He cant do that because i didnt cheat, they simply dont pay winnings, what kind of cheater earn 160$ and only after 3rd deposit, and what kind of bookie return just 100 out of 360 deposit.
Answer SCAMMER BOOKIE
i agree with @Nrcewker statement

at least for @torkens and @euphoriabet provide some evidence that we can see together here so we know who is wrong and who is right as @Nrcewker said.
we are in the gambling section and anyone can accuse each other of fraud but if the accusations are without proof we cannot trust anyone here.


I'm also concerned and still haven't finished thinking there are still cases of fraud like what happened to you.
Maybe you have definitely experienced disappointment because of the total amount of money you deposited, you can only take none of it 50%.
But why did you trust them so much in the past that you dared to make a deposit with this sizable amount? You should be more careful every time you want to try to play and make a deposit with a slightly larger amount.
Hopefully this can be used as a lesson for you or all of us so that in the future there will be no more cases like this.
I hope you will read before making a statement like the one you wrote.
you make that statement as if you believe in one side only. although this case is like mutual accusations, both of them did not provide any evidence. so as @Nrcewker said we will not know who is right who is wrong because both of them do not provide real evidence.


so maybe you need to understand the case a little more before writing a reply



Guys dont doubt i am talking true.

I explain it all here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439598.new#new

In acussation thread,

I deposited 3 times and when i won some and wanted to check do they alow withdrawal then problems started.
Not before while i am loosing or even when winning they didnt void any of bets, his abnormal bet explanation come 5 days after withdrawal when i ask here why my withdrawal.isnt processed.

I think guys with your experience should be all clear who is scammer in this case
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February 28, 2023, 11:28:00 AM
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He cant do that because i didnt cheat, they simply dont pay winnings, what kind of cheater earn 160$ and only after 3rd deposit, and what kind of bookie return just 100 out of 360 deposit.
Answer SCAMMER BOOKIE
I'm also concerned and still haven't finished thinking there are still cases of fraud like what happened to you.
Maybe you have definitely experienced disappointment because of the total amount of money you deposited, you can only take none of it 50%.
But why did you trust them so much in the past that you dared to make a deposit with this sizable amount? You should be more careful every time you want to try to play and make a deposit with a slightly larger amount.
Hopefully this can be used as a lesson for you or all of us so that in the future there will be no more cases like this.

Of course, frauds are going to happen from time to time. You can't expect that those fraudsters will stop because this is the business that they love the most. They are too lazy to grind on a legit job but all what they want is easy money. All we can do to avoid them is to always read feed backs before we join a casino. It doesn't matter if it's a new or an old one. He trust the site before because his withdrawals went smoothly but he got only screwed on his 3rd withdrawal.

I think if we are on his situation, we will hardly suspect the site. This is one of the hardest part so it's better to stick only on our limits and put your 100% trust on any online platforms that you use.
Yes, indeed lately there have been many cases of fraud that have occurred in many crypto casinos.
Actually, to avoid casino scams, only we can do it, namely by reading all the feedback and also we can do our own research and see whether the users in the casino are satisfied or not.
Their scam casino can easily commit fraud because of an opportunity like gamblers enter their casino and make a large deposit and after this opportunity they start taking user money by freezing funds or banned user accounts and there are many more.

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March 11, 2023, 07:02:53 AM
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Guys dont doubt i am talking true.

I explain it all here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439598.new#new

In acussation thread,

I deposited 3 times and when i won some and wanted to check do they alow withdrawal then problems started.
Not before while i am loosing or even when winning they didnt void any of bets, his abnormal bet explanation come 5 days after withdrawal when i ask here why my withdrawal.isnt processed.

I think guys with your experience should be all clear who is scammer in this case
february has passed, has this problem been resolved or not at all?

it might be better to keep all this updated, so feel free to stay here.


and sorry about my previous statement. I don't believe you but I'm just giving advice to you and the representative council to solve the problem properly and get it resolved soon.

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Some words of advice for anyone who was wondering about using this bookmaker...

They decided to void all my winnings and return only my deposits (same technique as 1xbit) because their oddsprovider flagged my account for using ''software and arbitrage betting" :

"We wanted to inform you that our provider has recently conducted a
review of your account and has flagged it for possible violation of our
website's terms and conditions, specifically in relation to the use of
software and arbitrage betting. As a result, we regret to inform you
that your account will be blocked and all bets will be canceled.

We understand that this may come as a disappointment, but we take these
matters seriously and must ensure that our policies and guidelines are
upheld. Please note that only your deposit will be refunded, and any
winnings or bonuses will not be returned. Please create new withdrawal."

I've been betting for a while now, so usually the bets I place will have odds dropping by kickoff and this can trigger a flag with some oddsproviders. I had issues with Jackbit and Betnomi in the past few months for the same reason but they all ended up paying after reviewing my account and finding nothing fishy (you can check both locked threads in the scam accusations board). All the bets I place are my own bets and I am not using any software of any kind.

So basically, if you make good bets and win money, stay out of Euphoriabet because they will accuse you of arbitrage betting and steal your money!
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March 21, 2023, 11:39:37 PM
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So basically, if you make good bets and win money, stay out of Euphoriabet because they will accuse you of arbitrage betting and steal your money!


Is it fair to call it theft of funds? I'm in no way defending them, but users get their deposits back. But thank you for describing your experience, I think it can help many users who are in search of a bookmaker platform.


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March 21, 2023, 11:56:14 PM
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So basically, if you make good bets and win money, stay out of Euphoriabet because they will accuse you of arbitrage betting and steal your money!


Is it fair to call it theft of funds? I'm in no way defending them, but users get their deposits back. But thank you for describing your experience, I think it can help many users who are in search of a bookmaker platform.



I guess it's better than nothing you're right. However, wrongfully claiming a user is breaking the rules and taking away their legitimate winnings because of that is not something any reputable casino will do.

At the end of the day, they are unlicensed so they don't really have to abide by any rules sadly. It is also my word against theirs so it's hard to prove my innocence, but if needed I could go through bet by bet in my betting history and prove why it's not an arb because every single bookmaker had around the exact same odds at the time of the bet.





 
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March 22, 2023, 01:53:08 AM
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I guess it's better than nothing you're right. However, wrongfully claiming a user is breaking the rules and taking away their legitimate winnings because of that is not something any reputable casino will do.

At the end of the day, they are unlicensed so they don't really have to abide by any rules sadly. It is also my word against theirs so it's hard to prove my innocence, but if needed I could go through bet by bet in my betting history and prove why it's not an arb because every single bookmaker had around the exact same odds at the time of the bet.
That is why it is important for us to always be careful and choose a trusted casino when we want to play or bet.
The license also needs to be considered in choosing a casino because in a casino that doesn't have a license we can have problems when we get big wins like you said but before that there were still many gamblers who chose to play at casinos that didn't have a license because they didn't like KYC and it was flat most casinos that don't have KYC are casinos without a clear license.
If the problem that happened to you hasn't really been resolved, I'm sorry and this can be a lesson for you so that in the future you will be wiser in choosing a casino, don't let something like this happen again to you or other gamblers out there.

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March 22, 2023, 02:41:10 AM
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I guess it's better than nothing you're right. However, wrongfully claiming a user is breaking the rules and taking away their legitimate winnings because of that is not something any reputable casino will do.

At the end of the day, they are unlicensed so they don't really have to abide by any rules sadly. It is also my word against theirs so it's hard to prove my innocence, but if needed I could go through bet by bet in my betting history and prove why it's not an arb because every single bookmaker had around the exact same odds at the time of the bet.
That is why it is important for us to always be careful and choose a trusted casino when we want to play or bet.
The license also needs to be considered in choosing a casino because in a casino that doesn't have a license we can have problems when we get big wins like you said but before that there were still many gamblers who chose to play at casinos that didn't have a license because they didn't like KYC and it was flat most casinos that don't have KYC are casinos without a clear license.
If the problem that happened to you hasn't really been resolved, I'm sorry and this can be a lesson for you so that in the future you will be wiser in choosing a casino, don't let something like this happen again to you or other gamblers out there.
there is also other account above claiming the same issue? @torkens in which also have banned because of being accused of cheating but sadly not coming back here to update what had happened to His problem .

but about finding a legit and trustworthy site? it is our obligation to get one because this is our money and scammers will find way to attract us to play and deposit, I am not calling this site as scam but at least best to address those issue properly with proofs than just going against the accusation with words









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May 15, 2023, 02:46:23 PM
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Hello

I just want to advice you not to bet in this shitty place. I won some bets and then they have blocked my access to my account and confiscated my funds.

When I asked them for the reason, they alleged "arbing behaviuor". This is just an excuse because I have never done such things. I just placed some bets on top Table Tennis leagues, football and rarely Tennis.

Now, the refuse to give me my money back for no reason.

THEY ARE JUST SCAMMERS AND THIEVES
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May 15, 2023, 03:05:04 PM
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Hello

I just want to advice you not to bet in this shitty place. I won some bets and then they have blocked my access to my account and confiscated my funds.

When I asked them for the reason, they alleged "arbing behaviuor". This is just an excuse because I have never done such things. I just placed some bets on top Table Tennis leagues, football and rarely Tennis.

Now, the refuse to give me my money back for no reason.

THEY ARE JUST SCAMMERS AND THIEVES

Lol, Arbitrage betting already spread like a wild fire. The more you denied it the more you will be guilty. Bookmaker provider being use by the crypto casino are all connected to each other which they can easily detect whose doing an arbitrage betting that abusing their odds difference.

But they should give back your deposit since that’s not part of the money that get on malicious activity. Remember that arbs bet are being use by money launderers that’s why casino is vigilant to bust this activity.

File an official scam report on scam accusation board if you’re sure that you didn’t arbitrage bet. Post the screenshot of the support conversation.

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May 15, 2023, 03:14:24 PM
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there is also other account above claiming the same issue? @torkens in which also have banned because of being accused of cheating but sadly not coming back here to update what had happened to His problem .
Maybe he didn't come back because he realized that what he did was a mistake and he has accepted the consequences of what he did.
It's natural for the cheating that is done by the user if the casino prohibits or bans the account and we all have to be able to understand and accept what the casino has decided.

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but about finding a legit and trustworthy site? it is our obligation to get one because this is our money and scammers will find way to attract us to play and deposit, I am not calling this site as scam but at least best to address those issue properly with proofs than just going against the accusation with words
That's why we should use a casino with a good reputation and a high level of trust.
We do gamble using personal money that we get from work or business, so we will never be willing to lose it just because we are deceived by a scam casino.

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