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October 16, 2022, 08:20:27 AM
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It is a much discussed topic and probably also quite a big and social problem in society today. More and more children are gambling and how do you deal with this as a parent? There are also many children who know how to keep this well hidden. And at what point do we still speak of children? Someone who is 50 and has a son who is 30 who gambles is officially also a child. But that is different from a minor child who is already addicted to gambling. The only positive thing about underage gambling is that sites do not allow you to create an account if you are underage, you could still play with bitcoins. But otherwise you can only gamble reasonably innocently until the age of 18. Then you are talking about poker with your friends for fun for example.

I think this is the worst if children are gambling and not telling their parents. Even when you are not a minor anymore it feels wrong to hide your gambling activities from your parents and your friends. It's one thing no not tell them, and it's another thing to lie to them to try and make them believe you are not gambling at all. All the children in my family are still young and below 10 years, gambling is not an issue yet, but it will be eventually. I know that my brother in law likes to gamble to and we sometimes talk about it. My parents don't really like it but they accept it and we can talk about it openly. It's the same thing I want with my children as well. It's so much better to talk openly about something than banning it for our kids and not knowing it they will follow the ban or not. Eventually our children will make their decision alone and we can't influence them forever. In many countries is gambling part of the culture and its nornal for kids to be curious. I still remember how I was with 15/16, you see the casino life in movies and want to give it a try yourself.
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October 16, 2022, 08:32:23 AM
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No way, even if I am a pro gambler I will never influence my kid to be a gambler and I would not want to see my kid doing that, there is a gambler in my city that knows he way around gambling and his downfall started when his first son started wasting his money in casinos, he has no gambling experiences and lessons and he kept losing money until he got into a big debt.
Rich gambler or poor is not the problem here. Whether you are rich or poor you should never involve your children in gambling and let them gamble. If you are rich and allow your children to gamble then it will be a bad experience for you and your children will eventually get involved in many bad activities and there futures will be ruined.


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October 16, 2022, 10:05:21 AM
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We are going to be using Micheal Jordan as our case study :

Micheal Jordan gambled away $5 million dollars in one night[1], he is a Billionaire, but that does not remove the fact that that's a hell lots of money to gamble away in just one night, you might want to say he is an adult and a Billionaires, and he is free to spend his money in which ever way he wants - understandable... Now, what about his son?

Marcus Jordan is just 19 years old, he spent a whooping $50,000 dollars in one night in Las Vegas on gambling and drinking in a strip night club[1][2][3], the report shows he threw away $35,000 in gambling while $15,000 went into drinking alcohol and girls in the club, and do not forget that it is illegal to drink and gamble under the age of 21 in the state of Nevada where they live....

The young lad even posted that night's expenditures on his Twitter account where he said , and I quote....
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"Last night was stupid... 35K at Haze," the University of Central Florida sophomore guard said. "Totals 50K something the whole day."
but according to report, the tweet got deleted.

This (from the articles) I believe happened in 2010, but I believe it's a fresh story for those of us getting to know this for the first time,

What do you make out of this story, should we really allow our children to live such a lifestyle like gambling and night clubbing, most especially, when they are still under aged?

Let's discuss about this..




This is really a situation where the African saying "LIKE FATHER LIKE SON" comes in. Just from your quotes of what both the father and the son said, it doesn't seem to me that they were really bothered about the whooping sum of money that was spent, and I guess those gambling sites would really have been dancing so hard those nights. My first question was how did Marcus come about such amount of money if not from his father? Which means his dad which I believe has already provided him with all the luxuries of life still pumps in huge sum of money into his son's account and he knows fully well that it will be squandered. So I believe every family has it's ethics of raising a child(Ren).

Personally I don't think letting children underaged gamble is right as it is also against both gambling and betting regulations if almost every country that allows betting and gambling

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October 16, 2022, 10:58:22 AM
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No parent teaches their kid wrong thing - while they are doing any wrong they try to do it in hidden - but kids imitate their adults.
Sometime kids trun out to be more smarter than their parents - so those are the inborn qualities as well

Kids may think they are smarter than their parents while in reality this is not the case. Parents are more experienced and no matter how sharp the kids are, they can never deceive their parents. However, when children do not listen to thier parents advice on not to play gambing, children usually do not listen them and start playing in hidden.

Proper communication is the key and being sincere as parents can make their kids agree to what the parents are advising.  But of course, leading by example is the best option to make your kids listen to whatever a parent say.

Poor communication is not the problem, the real issue is the children see and adopt what their parents do. If parents keep on playing gambling and keep telling kids not to play gamble, it will have no effect on the kids. They will argue that if our parents are playing, why are they stopping us and why can't we gamble too ?

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October 16, 2022, 04:00:31 PM
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You know, it's really hard to scold someone, a child when your at most guilty of the ae crime. It's not a very good position especially when your also on the same position. You kind of restle with your conscience and as a result, you don't often come off with the right words or make the most impact.

That's why it's important that your kids don't get to find you in such habits. You might as well be there Hero and like there hero, they would tend to walk the path you on and you know what the result would be, disaster.

Gambling is for the matured in mind and those whom knows when to continue or stop. It's not a thing for children and it should be kept from them, as far away as possible.

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October 16, 2022, 04:15:32 PM
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You know, it's really hard to scold someone, a child when your at most guilty of the ae crime. It's not a very good position especially when your also on the same position. You kind of restle with your conscience and as a result, you don't often come off with the right words or make the most impact.

That's why it's important that your kids don't get to find you in such habits. You might as well be there Hero and like there hero, they would tend to walk the path you on and you know what the result would be, disaster.

Gambling is for the matured in mind and those whom knows when to continue or stop. It's not a thing for children and it should be kept from them, as far away as possible.
As a parent, you should be able to handle child even with scolding. Not because you are doing something that you don't want your child to do means that can't say something about it and prohibit them from doing it. Also, it should not affect your conscience as you should know that prohibiting them is the right thing. Things could go wrong even what you say if you think that what you're doing is wrong.

You can still be someone your child to look up on or a "Hero" even with things that you don't want them to do. You just need to prove them and let them what the things they should idolised you.


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October 16, 2022, 05:19:50 PM
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That is the need for guidance to children, regarding this there is a need for notification to children about the bad risks that will be obtained. Even worse, worse things can happen to them, such as addiction, mental health, and others. In the links below, you can find the lessons you need to know about these things.

https://www.psychreg.org/child-gambling-addiction/

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how good the role of parents is very important to always monitor the activities of teenagers when they are cool to use the internet, especially for teenagers who are still under 17 years old
The role of parents is very important to accompany children's activities and should limit the use of PC or mobile, if without monitoring browsing history from the internet it will be influenced by external factors from the internet including advertising from gambling and they will try it, I have a younger brother and I always borrow his cell phone for check his internet activity history and when he is 18+ then he has his own choice to do whatever, but the role of parents only suggest the best for his future.

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October 16, 2022, 08:34:44 PM
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No way, even if I am a pro gambler I will never influence my kid to be a gambler and I would not want to see my kid doing that, there is a gambler in my city that knows he way around gambling and his downfall started when his first son started wasting his money in casinos, he has no gambling experiences and lessons and he kept losing money until he got into a big debt.

Better lead by example.  If you are a pro gambler and you don't want your kids to get involve in gambling then it is better for you to stop gambling.  You cannot tell your kids that gambling is wrong yet they can see you wasting your time gambling.  This will lead to confusion and possibly lost of respect of children to their parents.  If parent told them to not engage in gambling, parent must not get involved in gambling activities. 

Though you can try another approach by not branding gambling as a taboo.  You can tell your kids that they can only engage in gambling activity if they are in the right age, but as a kid, they shouldn't get involved with gambling activity because it is against the law.  Together with that, you can guide your kids on how to properly moderate a gambling activity so that they will have a knowledge on how to engage in gambling properly when they come to age.

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That is the need for guidance to children, regarding this there is a need for notification to children about the bad risks that will be obtained. Even worse, worse things can happen to them, such as addiction, mental health, and others. In the links below, you can find the lessons you need to know about these things.

https://www.psychreg.org/child-gambling-addiction/
Parents dont want their kids to do wrong
They would always want them to be good citizen and good human. But those who indulge themselves in the wrong doings are their decisions.
They learn it hard way
It is easy to build the right morals and characters in kids while their are still growing than when they become a teenager, the boy in question is already used to that way of life, and he has being spending such a huge amount on regular basis, so to him, that is a normal life but not knowing he is building a bad image in the eye of the public. His dad is not also responsible enough to have developed the right character and set a good example for his kids.
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It is easy to build the right morals and characters in kids while their are still growing than when they become a teenager

That's why the wise ones says the best time to bend a fish is when it is still afresh, but when it got dried, no remedy to bending it anymore, let's train our children right from their childhood days, when they grow up, they will not depart from it, which is parents to child's responsibility.

His dad is not also responsible enough to have developed the right character and set a good example for his kids.

Some careless and heartless parents do forget that the children are looking on their character unknowingly and unconsciously, what kind of foundation are they laying for such children to trail upon, we are just blaming the society but the actual fact is that the fault begins right from home, if the child gambles or misbehave being underaged, don't blame him, check his parents.



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October 17, 2022, 07:55:11 PM
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What do you expect from a son when his father is such a role model.

On one hand you should keep your children out of trouble, but it gets hard when you cannot keep yourself out of it and the child sees it. Like when the father parties every weekend it's hard to expect the son to be a quiet kid who doesn't want to do the same. It's a well known fact that when children are beaten by their parents they often beat their children later in life.
If you don't want your kids to be gamblers at least don't show them how you gamble. Keep them away from this life.
That is really hard if a parent itself is used to live his life in luxury wherein gambling is also a big part of it. The children will definitely learn to imitate the lifestyle of their parents as it’s what they keep on seeing. Well for  Michael, it’s not a problem since they got the huge funds to lose in gambling, but for ordinary people who even struggled to live our life, I think we should always teach our kids to never engage in gambling as it could be very addicted if not controlled.

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October 17, 2022, 10:38:05 PM
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What do you expect from a son when his father is such a role model.

On one hand you should keep your children out of trouble, but it gets hard when you cannot keep yourself out of it and the child sees it. Like when the father parties every weekend it's hard to expect the son to be a quiet kid who doesn't want to do the same. It's a well known fact that when children are beaten by their parents they often beat their children later in life.
If you don't want your kids to be gamblers at least don't show them how you gamble. Keep them away from this life.
That is really hard if a parent itself is used to live his life in luxury wherein gambling is also a big part of it. The children will definitely learn to imitate the lifestyle of their parents as it’s what they keep on seeing. Well for  Michael, it’s not a problem since they got the huge funds to lose in gambling, but for ordinary people who even struggled to live our life, I think we should always teach our kids to never engage in gambling as it could be very addicted if not controlled.
As a son or daughter then everything where your parents been doing would be definitely right into your eyes which you would really be idolize and would really be following on to their steps which is something

very common for us to take.Its true that whatever we've been dealing with would be basically be followed by our sons and daughters and since you are really that millionaire then finances wont really be a problem

which does basically means that they could really do all sorts of things without having any problems when it comes to finances which is really a very common concept or
situation that it would really happen.

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October 17, 2022, 11:04:44 PM
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That is really hard if a parent itself is used to live his life in luxury wherein gambling is also a big part of it. The children will definitely learn to imitate the lifestyle of their parents as it’s what they keep on seeing. Well for  Michael, it’s not a problem since they got the huge funds to lose in gambling, but for ordinary people who even struggled to live our life, I think we should always teach our kids to never engage in gambling as it could be very addicted if not controlled.
You're Right, we have a different life with Michael because he lives in a gambling environment so his son will imitate him out of interest in trying something of his father's work. So we are advised not to follow it and must educate children to focus on their future because if they are involved in gambling as a teenager it will damage their mindset and they will no longer focus on their education.


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It is easy to build the right morals and characters in kids while their are still growing than when they become a teenager

That's why they wise ones says the best time to bend a fish is when it is still afresh, but when it got dried, no remedy to bending it anymore, let's train our children right from their childhood days, when they grow up, they will not depart from it, which is parents to child's responsibility.

His dad is not also responsible enough to have developed the right character and set a good example for his kids.

Dome careless and heartless parents do forget that the children are looking on their character unknowingly and unconsciously, what kind of foundation are they laying for such children to trail upon, we are just blaming the society but the actual fact is that the fault begins right from home, if the child gambles or misbehave being underaged, don't blame him, check his parents.

instilling discipline, best practices and other good behaviour is indeed best when they are still young. in this way, they can go over and over again from what they have been taught, and those will be their reminder if in case they change their path later on in their lives. it will be their guide throughout their lifetime. most of these kids will stick to where they were being brought up.

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That is the need for guidance to children, regarding this there is a need for notification to children about the bad risks that will be obtained. Even worse, worse things can happen to them, such as addiction, mental health, and others. In the links below, you can find the lessons you need to know about these things.

https://www.psychreg.org/child-gambling-addiction/
Parents dont want their kids to do wrong
They would always want them to be good citizen and good human. But those who indulge themselves in the wrong doings are their decisions.
They learn it hard way
At the end each one of us is responsible for our own actions, so once your kids become legal adults even if you can give them an advice or two they can always ignore to hear you out and make several mistakes in the process, that is part of growing up and there is not much which can be done to avoid this, the only thing you can hope for is that you have at least teach them enough about life so whatever mistakes they make are relatively small and they do not ruin their lives in the process.
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It is easy to build the right morals and characters in kids while their are still growing than when they become a teenager

That's why they wise ones says the best time to bend a fish is when it is still afresh, but when it got dried, no remedy to bending it anymore, let's train our children right from their childhood days, when they grow up, they will not depart from it, which is parents to child's responsibility.

His dad is not also responsible enough to have developed the right character and set a good example for his kids.

Dome careless and heartless parents do forget that the children are looking on their character unknowingly and unconsciously, what kind of foundation are they laying for such children to trail upon, we are just blaming the society but the actual fact is that the fault begins right from home, if the child gambles or misbehave being underaged, don't blame him, check his parents.

instilling discipline, best practices and other good behaviour is indeed best when they are still young. in this way, they can go over and over again from what they have been taught, and those will be their reminder if in case they change their path later on in their lives. it will be their guide throughout their lifetime. most of these kids will stick to where they were being brought up.

We cannot just simply assume Michael did not do his part as a parent.
I'm wondering, why ya'll quick to crucify Michael for being a bad parent or not instilling discipline and something like that?
This might've happened once, and right after his son posted it on social media, it might've never happened again.
I mean, there's one point in our younger lives that we tend to go discover what these adults were doing and out if curiosity, we tend to imitate what they're doing, and what I meant to imitate it does not automatically mean they got it from their parents (though Michael is undeniably into gambling), but it could also be that they saw it a hundred or thousand times from different adult people.
Now, how do ya'll know Michael have never done anything about it after he found out what happened?
Don't you think he just let it pass? And did not do something to discipline his son?
Remember, when we grow up, it's not always what the parents taught us turns out to be what we are right now, as an adult.
Because, as an adult, we all have the ability to think on our own way. I mean, majority of the parents out there did not teach their children how to kill, steal, and other criminal activities, but why we have seen a lot of people like these in our local news? Right?
But don't get me wrong, discipline is a good start while your young.


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October 18, 2022, 05:18:29 AM
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It is easy to build the right morals and characters in kids while their are still growing than when they become a teenager

That's why they wise ones says the best time to bend a fish is when it is still afresh, but when it got dried, no remedy to bending it anymore, let's train our children right from their childhood days, when they grow up, they will not depart from it, which is parents to child's responsibility.

His dad is not also responsible enough to have developed the right character and set a good example for his kids.

Dome careless and heartless parents do forget that the children are looking on their character unknowingly and unconsciously, what kind of foundation are they laying for such children to trail upon, we are just blaming the society but the actual fact is that the fault begins right from home, if the child gambles or misbehave being underaged, don't blame him, check his parents.
There are so many things happening in the gambling world that we need to take a look at to make sure that more people do not become prey to this kind of gambling lifestyle. There is an addiction from the parent to children and this alone will continue if there is no way the addiction will be evicted from the family linage. Everything is time and this will be a big problem later if no alternative solution.
But maybe for rich people, gambling can become a kind of lifestyle and maybe some of them play gambling to get a cooperation agreement between the two.
A lot can happen if we make gambling a lifestyle but most will get something bad out of gambling.
And parents should still pay attention to their children so they don't get caught up in gambling, especially if they get addicted to gambling because it is difficult to cure.
And if the parents often play gambling, maybe they need to reduce it for the sake of their children because someday, their children will know that their parents often play gambling and that can cause many problems that arise in their family.

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October 18, 2022, 05:27:51 AM
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Jordan can spend his own money to his own liking. Money earned by himself can be squandered, whether he win or lose thats his problem. and he definitely has the capabilities to earn it back even if its 5mm.
Personally I feel the son Marcus should only spend the money that he earns. Maybe he has his own family trust funds that gives him 1mm every month?
Then again its just my personal point of view. If Michael Jordan doesn't mind, who are we to mind? Wink

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October 18, 2022, 05:56:44 AM
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The personal example of parents plays the most important role in the education of children. Children imitate the behavior of the adults around them. Parents can play whatever they want. But at the same time it is important how adults react in the presence of the child to this or that situation. How parents explain their actions and what their priorities are above all else is also important.

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