Is this statiscally possible in a lottery?

[nullama]

Statistically speaking, when it comes to possibility, yes the winning numbers are possible although obviously chances to hit that set of numbers are really difficult. It's an even more high chance to be struck by lightning compared to hitting numbers 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54.

I feel sad for the real bettor who trusts that numbers. Maybe when the numbers was picked, that bettor is now rejoicing for a big win but surprisingly, there are other 432 winners that will be part of the share on the jackpot.

Yeah, that's why it's usually a better idea to not bet on "nice" numbers, like "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6", because they have the same probability of happening, but more people will be playing those types of numbers so your prize will be divided.

Also it's better to play numbers higher than 31 because people usually play birthdays

[BobK71]

It is not unusual to be suspicious of the way people are being cheated at every level. And the image the OP is sharing here is spot on that it is divisible by 9. But here the matter of lottery selection should be kept in mind in which process lottery selection is being done. If all were not divisible by this 9 then there would be no doubt in anyone's mind. But I think it doesn't matter. Those are the lucky ones who got those numbers.

They say that Filipino bettors are playful when it comes to betting and no wonder why there are 433 lottery winners in one day. Maybe those people have been betting with the same winning combination for a long time. It may sound suspicious but anything unexpected can happen in gambling. If the powerhouse has not been honest, then it will also be unfair to millions of bettors who put their hope on them.

Also, the department overseeing the lottery is known to have been plagued by lots of controversies, and I'm not even shocked if ever that turns out to be the case.

There was transparency in lottery few years ago, currently many people are questioning about that transparency. And I wouldn't be surprised because these things happen. Maybe not what the OP mentioned. People who believe in fortune are interested in playing this lottery and often feel anxious about various things. But I personally not interested in lottery where many casino games are available.

[gagux123]

Look, I confess this is something unusual, being able to hit 6 numbers in a total of 55 is unlikely, but there are chances of this happening, I have no doubt, even if it is something extremely low.

Regarding integrity/reputability with lotteries, I don't know, I confess that I'm suspicious, I'm not saying that all lotteries have frauds, but until today I haven't met anyone from my friends or relatives who won millions in lottery, the most that ever happened was someone from my friends network earned enough money to buy a simple motorcycle.

[goldkingcoiner]

Yesterday, many people were surprised on the result of our lottery. The number that came out were are all divisible by nine. There are many speculations now that the lottery is rigged and the result was already fixed. It's just hard to believe that since they always do live draw to show transparency about the result. What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?



Image Source:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0xogg6pv17aDJe94MQCYAaNiUdDpxnQFczyrY4Gaaf91BMhmarBtnx8p8iXWMZd4sl&id=100069066345193 (I just cropped the image to focus on the 6/55 draw)

Well lets see what the mathematics have to say about that...

Since we have a one or two digit answer, we can safely assume that there is a set of integers from 1-55 which are also divisible by 9.

Let D={n|n ∈ N : (n = positive integer up to a maximum possible number of 55 which is also divisible by 9.)}
 You will find the probability of getting a single such a number is D/N = 6/55 , therefore the probability of getting such numbers six times in a row is = (6/55)⁶. Which is at around ~0,00000168.

Which means you have an about ~1 in 600k chance but its still possible.

One might say that people are freaking out over a cool coincidence. But 433 winners?. Oh cmon. Someone spilled the winning numbers, it seems like.

[worle1bm]

Can't say this was fixed because there are lot of possibilities in the mathematical scenario which I can't figure out but have been explained above.This is mere coincidence in my opinion that all the number are divisible by 9 as they pick out random numbers and if this was fixed they know who holds the lottery but this might not be the case.What was the total winning amount from this lottery exactly after deduction if any?

[robelneo]

This is the actual video of the live lottery draw, before the draw, they weigh each ball by random representatives from various sectors of society the lottery agency has been doing this for so many years it's up to you to check for any irregularities but an investigation is coming to see if there are irregularities, this is highly controversial and we are all left speculating.

https://youtu.be/tuNqBT9ubMk?t=1078

And this is the explanation of one an OCTA Research on the probability



Its better to have an investigation on this because its possibility that something like this will come out in the future, we never know its a lottery and luck and probability do happen every once in a blue moon

[o_e_l_e_o]

You will find the probability of getting a single such a number is D/N = 6/55 , therefore the probability of getting such numbers six times in a row is = (6/55)⁶. Which is at around ~0,00000168.

Which means you have an about ~1 in 600k chance but its still possible.

Your math is wrong.

You have odds of 6/55 when drawing the first number only. Since the numbers drawn are not returned to the pool and cannot be drawn a second time, then after you have drawn the first number there are no longer 6 possibilities you can choose, but 5. Similarly, there are not 55 balls to choose from, but 54. So the odds for the second ball are not 6/55, but 5/54. The same logic applies for all future balls. So instead of (6/55)⁶, the actual equation will be (6/55)*(5/54)*(4/53)*(3/52)*(2/51)*(1/50). So the odds are ~1 in 29 million.

See my earlier post in this thread for a full explanation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5415646.msg61047255#msg61047255

And this is the explanation of one an OCTA Research on the probability

The last paragraph of the image you have shared sums it up nicely. If we were seeing 433 winners on a truly random selection of balls, then that would be evidence of something gone wrong or some foul play. But we are not seeing that. Instead, we are seeing 433 winners on a very obvious pattern which has been selected more than average simply by virtue of it being a very obvious pattern.

[goldkingcoiner]

You will find the probability of getting a single such a number is D/N = 6/55 , therefore the probability of getting such numbers six times in a row is = (6/55)⁶. Which is at around ~0,00000168.

Which means you have an about ~1 in 600k chance but its still possible.

Your math is wrong.

You have odds of 6/55 when drawing the first number only. Since the numbers drawn are not returned to the pool and cannot be drawn a second time, then after you have drawn the first number there are no longer 6 possibilities you can choose, but 5. Similarly, there are not 55 balls to choose from, but 54. So the odds for the second ball are not 6/55, but 5/54. The same logic applies for all future balls. So instead of (6/55)⁶, the actual equation will be (6/55)*(5/54)*(4/53)*(3/52)*(2/51)*(1/50). So the odds are ~1 in 29 million.

AH yes.

I completely forgot that lotteries do not use the same numbers over again. That was completely wrong math due to my forgetting of how lotteries work. Of course in that case you would be right. The odds of getting 6 numbers all divisible by 9 are way lower than expected and almost unrealistic to achieve. But that just again goes to prove that this was no accident. There definitely was something fishy going on here. Everything was premeditated and I am guessing some relative/friend who got the winnings numbers decided to tell another relative/friend. If they do a bit of analytic research on the network, they might find something interesting.

[gunhell16]

Yesterday, many people were surprised on the result of our lottery. The number that came out were are all divisible by nine. There are many speculations now that the lottery is rigged and the result was already fixed. It's just hard to believe that since they always do live draw to show transparency about the result. What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?



Image Source:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0xogg6pv17aDJe94MQCYAaNiUdDpxnQFczyrY4Gaaf91BMhmarBtnx8p8iXWMZd4sl&id=100069066345193 (I just cropped the image to focus on the 6/55 draw)

I did read this in the news, because in the history of the lottery here in the Philippines, only now have there been so many winners in that matter, the total winners are 433, and the second issue that other government officials have questioned is why each number drawn has a total number of 9? If you look at it, the lottery draw is unusual, which motivated other politicians that there was manipulation happened.

And from my perspective and opinion, I think that's okay, because at least a lot of people benefited from the winning amount in the lottery draw because the only people who often benefit from the winning prize in the lottery are only 1, 2, or 3 people. That's better because at least a lot of people have been helped, this is just my opinion.

[crwth]

It’s impressive that it has become a pattern with results that are divisible by nine. a pattern with results that are divisible by nine. It’s probably really rare, but maybe it’s just really what shows in the results. If they were to rig it or something, that would’ve been a scam by a group of people, making them a lot of money out of nowhere.

if it even was rigged, they should be punished.

[danherbias07]

So this is the reason why I am seeing a lot of memes about PCSO.  
Questions like "Did this happen before?" will come out. If not, then it's possible that it would happen at least once per decade or maybe longer.

About the lottery in the Philippines being rigged, well I have been skeptical about the results even back then like it's always avoiding having a winner.
My grandfather never missed a game before, and that's what opened my mind that it's just a waste of money.

[Eternad]

It’s impressive that it has become a pattern with results that are divisible by nine. a pattern with results that are divisible by nine. It’s probably really rare, but maybe it’s just really what shows in the results. If they were to rig it or something, that would’ve been a scam by a group of people, making them a lot of money out of nowhere.

if it even was rigged, they should be punished.

This was already explained on the news recently by the PCSO gen manager. The winning number combination is only appear once and most of the winners that being interviewed was betting this combination for a long time and the winning bets has pattern so it’s really possible that many players will if they are thinking on same logic.

The draw is being done televised, there’s no way it will be rigged since all balls is being weigh before it place on the cage.

[fortunecrypto]

It’s impressive that it has become a pattern with results that are divisible by nine. a pattern with results that are divisible by nine. It’s probably really rare, but maybe it’s just really what shows in the results. If they were to rig it or something, that would’ve been a scam by a group of people, making them a lot of money out of nowhere.

if it even was rigged, they should be punished.

This was already explained on the news recently by the PCSO gen manager. The winning number combination is only appear once and most of the winners that being interviewed was betting this combination for a long time and the winning bets has pattern so it’s really possible that many players will if they are thinking on same logic.

The draw is being done televised, there’s no way it will be rigged since all balls is being weigh before it place on the cage.

It's not really the probability of the number that should be tackled here this is a lottery and anything is possible in a lottery, it should be on transparency and correctness on how they held the drawing if it was done like all the past drawings and there is nothing wrong and there's no manipulation then people should accept the results as it is, and besides the experts have explained that it's possible to have this numbers of winners.

[bisdak40]

And from my perspective and opinion, I think that's okay, because at least a lot of people benefited from the winning amount in the lottery draw because the only people who often benefit from the winning prize in the lottery are only 1, 2, or 3 people. That's better because at least a lot of people have been helped, this is just my opinion.

You may have a point here mate but rigging this game to help the economy will just leave a bad taste to the agency handling this, i mean who would trust if they are the ones scamming their own game? This should be investigated and hope they can explain to the citizens why it happened and convinced us that no rigging has happened to this game because this would create a negative effect on our economy if people won't buy lotto anymore as proceeds/revenues from this game have helped a lot on running our economy.

[rhomelmabini]

Yesterday, many people were surprised on the result of our lottery. The number that came out were are all divisible by nine. There are many speculations now that the lottery is rigged and the result was already fixed. It's just hard to believe that since they always do live draw to show transparency about the result. What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?

The thing that they haven't draw it live will have suspicion already considering for years they have done that thing everyday. They should explain it to the masses since that will just ruin their credibility that they built for years. We may not know the possibility of it but a one in a million chance could always happen on anything.

[famososMuertos]

It is difficult to win the lottery, if there is a phrase that comes close to being lucky, it is winning the lottery.   

People tend to believe and play the lottery for the obvious fact, they win the first prize... So, hey! this is difficult, improbable; then they, the people's always to Saying, "it doesn't matter, today, it's my turn..."

OP: At winners is where you can thinkbwhat there is the trap, on the ticket, that paper, or the holder of such a valuable ticket to wealth is in a certain way where the trap can occur.

[coinerer]

Basically it depends on what the way selectors have selected this lottery. Is it computerized or manual this is the important thing. If it open to all during lottery selection time then no question is conflicted in anyone's mind. Moreover, the numbers that appear are also raised in many questions. If the lottery is created in such a dispute, then the authority will lose the lottery buyers in the future.

[noormcs5]

The draw is being done televised, there’s no way it will be rigged since all balls is being weigh before it place on the cage.

Do you think that anything telecast live on Public television can't be rigged? Technology has evolved too much that your eyes can be fooled and you would never know what actually happened.

I still stick to my logic that lotteries are made for gambling houses to make money and they are for the people to invest and forget about their money as they will never win substantial money from lotteries.

[Jemzx00]

And from my perspective and opinion, I think that's okay, because at least a lot of people benefited from the winning amount in the lottery draw because the only people who often benefit from the winning prize in the lottery are only 1, 2, or 3 people. That's better because at least a lot of people have been helped, this is just my opinion.

You may have a point here mate but rigging this game to help the economy will just leave a bad taste to the agency handling this, i mean who would trust if they are the ones scamming their own game? This should be investigated and hope they can explain to the citizens why it happened and convinced us that no rigging has happened to this game because this would create a negative effect on our economy if people won't buy lotto anymore as proceeds/revenues from this game have helped a lot on running our economy.

I don't even know if this will help the economy especially that we may not be sure whether those winners are real and are all of them isn't associated from the PCSO itself.

Also, Due to the issue at hand regarding this draw, the PCSO have released the region as to where the winners are located and most of them are on the same city or near to that city. Who's to say that those are from their agency to cash it out for themselves. Whatever the decision is on the investigation, I will never accept that this is not rigged.

Edit:
Among the list of winners, there's a winner who owns 2 winning ticket which is unreasonable since if you want to maximize you winning chances, a person will buy more tickets that doesn't have any same combination.

[bocyaj]

Lottery winning is based on the random pluck and it will happen with huge.The winning of all the lottery game will be the new random pluck,it will make some one happy for their rest of the life.It also stolen the property of many of the unlucky person.So playing lottery in any way should play with more caution with more strategy to win the most of the game,you had engaged in.Playing lottery in offline,it was purely based on your luck.