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Author Topic: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers👉Group Stage  (Read 18913 times)
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March 29, 2024, 03:11:23 PM
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I dont know how Poland always make his way to the competitions, they play one of the worst and ugly footballs i ever see for years, but they still win some points here and there and with a few draws they go into the tournaments.

About the group, what a lucky guy is Cristiano easy group for them.
Poland performance during group stages is not impressive because they only can able to finish at 3rd place under Albania and Czech and i thought they won't be qualified but fortunately Poland can through an play off stages with very well because they can beat Estonia with big scores and Poland also can gets the last ticket of Euro 2024 after eliminate Wales through an penalty shootout and if i am not mistaken Poland highest achievement in this tournament is only quarterfinal stages even on Euro 2020 Poland have to eliminate early because they only finish at the bottom of group table

And regarding their chances in Euro 2024 i think it's very hard for Poland to qualified to the next round this because they are into hell group along with Netherlands and France and we all know these teams is favourite champion especially France that during qualification stages France has been showing fantastic performance which makes them deserved to called as favourite champion besides these teams there is Austria and this team also cannot be underestimate and my prediction for Poland is they potentially can repeat their last achievement in this tournament and failed to qualified

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March 29, 2024, 04:50:18 PM
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Poland performance during group stages is not impressive because they only can able to finish at 3rd place under Albania and Czech and i thought they won't be qualified but fortunately Poland can through an play off stages with very well because they can beat Estonia with big scores and Poland also can gets the last ticket of Euro 2024 after eliminate Wales through an penalty shootout and if i am not mistaken Poland highest achievement in this tournament is only quarterfinal stages even on Euro 2020 Poland have to eliminate early because they only finish at the bottom of group table

And regarding their chances in Euro 2024 i think it's very hard for Poland to qualified to the next round this because they are into hell group along with Netherlands and France and we all know these teams is favourite champion especially France that during qualification stages France has been showing fantastic performance which makes them deserved to called as favourite champion besides these teams there is Austria and this team also cannot be underestimate and my prediction for Poland is they potentially can repeat their last achievement in this tournament and failed to qualified
Poland are the last team to secure Euro 2024 tickets after Ukraine and Georgia, and to be honest they don't seem to have high hopes of surprising all of us at the Euros, I think for now Poland's heyday seems to have ended and it's difficult for them to repeat their glory days when they reached the quarter-finals at Euro 2016.

Indeed, we cannot deny if there are indeed top names in their squad such as Wojciech Szczesny, Lewandowski and Jakob Kiwior at the moment, but to face the Netherlands, France and Austria is certainly not an easy job for Poland, I think by joining Group D which contains team teams such as France and the Netherlands, of course Group D is like hell for Poland at this time,  I think Netherlands and France are the two teams that are favorites to qualify for the next round because Poland and Austria may not be the strongest opponents for them, and it is difficult for Poland to get points from both teams, While Poland vs Austria, indeed Austria may not be as strong as Poland but to beat them is also not easy at this time,  Because I saw in the last 5 matches Austria actually they were unbeaten and able to beat strong teams like Turkey and Germany in friendly matches.

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March 29, 2024, 06:52:35 PM
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The main problem with Poland is always the same as always, when you read the names in the squad you think.." ohhh yes finally they are gonna do a fantastic job in the tournament, look how good players they had" but in the reality they always made nothing they play extreme defensive and doesnt attack at all.

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March 29, 2024, 07:56:43 PM
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Ukraine managed to beat Iceland 2-1. Iceland managed to lead in the first half but lost the match. Ukraine dominated the match from the beginning to the end. I can say that they definitely deserved to win the match. Sudakov had 2 assists in the match.
Georgia eliminated Greece. The match was very tense. The normal time of the match ended without a goal and when no goal was scored in extra time, it went to penalties. Georgia managed to defeat the opponent on penalties.

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March 29, 2024, 08:39:08 PM
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Ukraine managed to beat Iceland 2-1. Iceland managed to lead in the first half but lost the match. Ukraine dominated the match from the beginning to the end. I can say that they definitely deserved to win the match. Sudakov had 2 assists in the match.
Georgia eliminated Greece. The match was very tense. The normal time of the match ended without a goal and when no goal was scored in extra time, it went to penalties. Georgia managed to defeat the opponent on penalties.
Ukraine seems more promising than Iceland depend on Ukraine squad dominance with top players who playing on the top teams such as Andriy Lunin on goal keeper, Mykhailo Mudryk as attacking line playing for Chelsea and Ukraine has La Liga top scorer awhile who play for Girona is Artem Oleksandrovych Dovbyk.
When facing Iceland, conceded early not make problem for Ukraine after success making come back and get the last ticket for qualifying to EURO 2024, seems Ukraine easy on Group E with the opponent teams Belgium, Romania and Slovakia will be easily to get 2nd standings finish under Belgium.

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March 29, 2024, 08:47:00 PM
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The main problem with Poland is always the same as always, when you read the names in the squad you think.." ohhh yes finally they are gonna do a fantastic job in the tournament, look how good players they had" but in the reality they always made nothing they play extreme defensive and doesnt attack at all.

That's a great comment explaining the Polish national team.😅 I think Fernando Santos is the reason for this situation. Yes, he is not in charge of the Polish national team now, but you can see his traces in the team. Especially the Moldova game, which they lost in the group stage, was a disappointment for me, but I'm still hopeful for them. A team with players like Szymanski, Zielinski and Lewandowski shouldn't have any more problems in scoring, I think one day they will overcome this problem.

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March 29, 2024, 10:48:14 PM
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The main problem with Poland is always the same as always, when you read the names in the squad you think.." ohhh yes finally they are gonna do a fantastic job in the tournament, look how good players they had" but in the reality they always made nothing they play extreme defensive and doesnt attack at all.

That's a great comment explaining the Polish national team.😅 I think Fernando Santos is the reason for this situation. Yes, he is not in charge of the Polish national team now, but you can see his traces in the team. Especially the Moldova game, which they lost in the group stage, was a disappointment for me, but I'm still hopeful for them. A team with players like Szymanski, Zielinski and Lewandowski shouldn't have any more problems in scoring, I think one day they will overcome this problem.

Poland has a few great players in the team, but if I am not mistaken I think they had more quality in the team like 10 - 15 years ago. I could be wrong though, but I think I remember when I thought that Poland must be taken very seriously. At the moment they are going through hard times as it seems. A lot of the burden is supposed to be carried by Lewandowski, but this isn't how it works. He needs players surrounding him who are world class themselves. The game against Wales was close for a good reason.

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March 30, 2024, 09:11:09 AM
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The main problem with Poland is always the same as always, when you read the names in the squad you think.." ohhh yes finally they are gonna do a fantastic job in the tournament, look how good players they had" but in the reality they always made nothing they play extreme defensive and doesnt attack at all.
I think apart from Lewandowski and Zielinski, the Polish national team doesn't have any particularly strong players. In one of the weakest groups with the Czech Republic and Albania Poland took only third place and won the Euro in the game with Wales and Poland could win only in a penalty shootout. Poland will clearly not be one of the favorites and in general in the group with France, Austria and the Netherlands even the 3rd place will be a success for the Polish national team.

The main problem of the Polish national team is not even in the players, but in the coaches and in the past the Polish national team also had quite a balanced squad of players, but the coaches were very weak.

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March 30, 2024, 09:42:20 AM
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I dont know how Poland always make his way to the competitions, they play one of the worst and ugly footballs i ever see for years, but they still win some points here and there and with a few draws they go into the tournaments.

About the group, what a lucky guy is Cristiano easy group for them.

I really don't understand either when a team has really good attackers but still becomes obstinate to play rather a defensive game.  Sad  Who is managing Poland, Mourinho?  Tongue  The fans had better not be much expectant from Poland while playing a boring football. They literally qualified for Euro 2024 by 0 shot on target and penalty shootouts after.

Ronaldo has decided to help his teammates one more time to win another Euro title after the one in 2016. I wasn't expecting him to play for his national team this long truthfully. However I'm not feeling like Portugal will win the title. The qualifier performance could be tricky because their group was just too easy you know.  Smiley

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March 30, 2024, 10:05:19 AM
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Poland has a few great players in the team, but if I am not mistaken I think they had more quality in the team like 10 - 15 years ago. I could be wrong though, but I think I remember when I thought that Poland must be taken very seriously. At the moment they are going through hard times as it seems. A lot of the burden is supposed to be carried by Lewandowski, but this isn't how it works. He needs players surrounding him who are world class themselves. The game against Wales was close for a good reason.

A few years ago Poland really looked much better, now they barely reached the Euro finals through the play-offs. And this despite the fact that their qualifying group was not so difficult, if the Czech Republic is still stronger now, then Albania was definitely a passable opponent, and the loss of points in the matches with Moldova seems like some kind of sensation. Lewandowski is already 35 years old, and he is no longer as dangerous as in previous years, although he continues to show good performances, but Poland has a weak middle line, and without this the attack cannot work fully.

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March 30, 2024, 09:35:59 PM
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Poland has a few great players in the team, but if I am not mistaken I think they had more quality in the team like 10 - 15 years ago. I could be wrong though, but I think I remember when I thought that Poland must be taken very seriously. At the moment they are going through hard times as it seems. A lot of the burden is supposed to be carried by Lewandowski, but this isn't how it works. He needs players surrounding him who are world class themselves. The game against Wales was close for a good reason.

A few years ago Poland really looked much better, now they barely reached the Euro finals through the play-offs. And this despite the fact that their qualifying group was not so difficult, if the Czech Republic is still stronger now, then Albania was definitely a passable opponent, and the loss of points in the matches with Moldova seems like some kind of sensation. Lewandowski is already 35 years old, and he is no longer as dangerous as in previous years, although he continues to show good performances, but Poland has a weak middle line, and without this the attack cannot work fully.

Yes their performance has been declining for a while now, there is no doubt about that. I am curious to see how they will be doing at the Euro 2024, but honestly I don't see even 1% chance for them to reach the knockout stage. They are in one group with France, the Netherlands and Austria. There is no need to talk about their realistic chances against France and the Netherlands. Maybe they can beat Austria and then perhaps tie a game against the Netherlands with some luck. But if they survive that group, I would be confused to say the least. They don't have enough balance in the team and they are still hoping for Lewandowski to be the one explosive player on the field to score several goals per game. But they will reach their limits against the two top teams in their group.

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March 31, 2024, 05:54:32 AM
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Poland has a few great players in the team, but if I am not mistaken I think they had more quality in the team like 10 - 15 years ago. I could be wrong though, but I think I remember when I thought that Poland must be taken very seriously. At the moment they are going through hard times as it seems. A lot of the burden is supposed to be carried by Lewandowski, but this isn't how it works. He needs players surrounding him who are world class themselves. The game against Wales was close for a good reason.
A few years ago Poland really looked much better, now they barely reached the Euro finals through the play-offs. And this despite the fact that their qualifying group was not so difficult, if the Czech Republic is still stronger now, then Albania was definitely a passable opponent, and the loss of points in the matches with Moldova seems like some kind of sensation. Lewandowski is already 35 years old, and he is no longer as dangerous as in previous years, although he continues to show good performances, but Poland has a weak middle line, and without this the attack cannot work fully.
There are two things regards to that, first of all they had a player who should have won Ballon D'or, Lewandwoski is a world star and he can do so much for a team and he was capable of helping that team become so much better. Secondly, every nation has times when they are good and times when they are not good, sometimes things are even closer, remember Italy won euro and didn't even participated world cup.

These are all important stuff, and when you combine them together you realize that things are not that simple. I personally believe that we are going to end up seeing Poland get back to being great again, not that they were like cup winners ever, that is not the level I think they will reach, but they will be fine.

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March 31, 2024, 11:18:51 AM
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Didier Deschamps has been managing France for like 12 years... Such a long time isn't it?  Smiley  In the meantime he achieved World Cup and Nations League titles once each. Do you think France board would think of replacing him if he doesn't become successful in Euro 2024? The reason why I ask this question is Zidane's interest in the job also.

Zidane hasn't managed any team for almost 3 years after leaving Real Madrid. He hasn't had any interest other than managing France since then.

I believe Zidane can make France more successful. Because he is really good at winning titles with teams that have a great squad. We have seen his work with Real Madrid like winning the CL title 3 years in a row.  Wink

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I believe Zidane can make France more successful. Because he is really good at winning titles with teams that have a great squad. We have seen his work with Real Madrid like winning the CL title 3 years in a row.  Wink

It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue

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I believe Zidane can make France more successful. Because he is really good at winning titles with teams that have a great squad. We have seen his work with Real Madrid like winning the CL title 3 years in a row.  Wink

It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue

The truth is that I would like Zidane to be able to take France to the World Cup and for them to be able to make a difference. I know that directing a country's national team is not the same as directing a club, but Zidane is a coach who is very good, he analyzes everything and knows what position to put each player in, so when we see that he can be the best, I would say yes, Deschamps is good, but I think that Deschamps does not play players that he does not like, in this aspect he is very similar to Luis Enrique with Spain and who is currently at PSG, because what he likes Deschamps did to Benzema in Qatar was something very evident.

Now things can be very different if you Start to see that things are managed by Zidane since for me he has much better experience, a team like France is a team with many stars, but I am sure that Zidane has better strategies and schemes to develop.

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March 31, 2024, 10:30:06 PM
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The truth is that I would like Zidane to be able to take France to the World Cup and for them to be able to make a difference. I know that directing a country's national team is not the same as directing a club, but Zidane is a coach who is very good, he analyzes everything and knows what position to put each player in, so when we see that he can be the best, I would say yes, Deschamps is good, but I think that Deschamps does not play players that he does not like, in this aspect he is very similar to Luis Enrique with Spain and who is currently at PSG, because what he likes Deschamps did to Benzema in Qatar was something very evident.

Now things can be very different if you Start to see that things are managed by Zidane since for me he has much better experience, a team like France is a team with many stars, but I am sure that Zidane has better strategies and schemes to develop.


I think you are very right about Zidane to be the better coach for France because there is one more aspect that differentiates club football from national team football. In club football, coaches have an entire season to try things and tinker around with different options, trying to optimize certain tactics and strategies. In the national teams tactical and strategical aspects can't be tinkered around with that much and I think it is more about the authenticity and the aura of a coach than it is about the tactical genius of a coach. There is a limit to what a national coach can change within a short period of time. It's a lot about confidence and trust and Zidane is a coach who knows how to get his players on board and make them believe in themselves. That's why I think he would be the better choice instead of Deschamps. And 100% true that Deschamps doesn't let players play that he doesn't like.

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April 01, 2024, 09:15:42 AM
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Agreed that Zidane for France makes a lot of sense. I don't really rate him a lot as a club manager regardless of his success in Madrid, and I don't see any big clubs standing in line and hoping to sign him.

National football however would suit him perfectly, especially a team filled with stars not really interested in working together as a team.
Zidane is a huge character with historical significance for French national team so yeah - he might be the leader they need.

Deschamps has amazing results though - won the World Cup, was runner up on both World Cup and Euro and won the Nations league. He will reach 100 wins with the team soon with 65% win percentage - not sure it gets any better than this.

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April 01, 2024, 10:26:02 AM
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It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue

Coaching clubs and national team certainly has its own challenges for a coach including Zidane, yes so far Zidane does have the ability to coach clubs quite well and as a player who has played for country and club, of course Zidane knows what a footballer really wants both when later coaching club or national teams, currently recognized or not,  Zidane's coaching ability has not been fully tested in my opinion, because his achievements coaching only in Madrid and at that time Madrid contained many star players so that made Zidane's job too easy.

Zidane lack of experience in coaching clubs may make France dare not risk the future in the hands of Zidane who is currently experienced just coaching 1 club, so France is more inclined to continue to give confidence to Didier Deschamps so far and even Zidane's opportunity to coach the national team has been tightly closed because Deschamps' contract expires until the 2026 World Cup is over.
I think what you are saying is true, because coaching a club is of course easier than coaching national team to win the euro or even the world cup, especially if we know that the national teams coaches only have a little time to prepare their team and of course they have to monitor players from one game to another in order to get players who suit the needs of the team and that of course Is not done by the club coach in my opinion.

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Zidane can be a magnificent national team coach, he deserves to be France national coach because of his history in the nation and because of what he shows coaching Real Madrid, he proves he knows how to manage egos from big players, and believe me that is not an easy task.

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The main problem with Poland is always the same as always, when you read the names in the squad you think.." ohhh yes finally they are gonna do a fantastic job in the tournament, look how good players they had" but in the reality they always made nothing they play extreme defensive and doesnt attack at all.
They were lucky to beat Wales on penalties, but if you look at their group at the EURO, that's where their luck ended. If they can somehow play against Austria, then the Netherlands and France will be too difficult opponents for them. Frankly speaking, Austria is playing very well now, and if Poland doesn’t change anything, they won’t even be able to count on third place in the group.

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