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April 01, 2024, 03:52:24 PM
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Didier Deschamps has been managing France for like 12 years... Such a long time isn't it?  Smiley  In the meantime he achieved World Cup and Nations League titles once each. Do you think France board would think of replacing him if he doesn't become successful in Euro 2024? The reason why I ask this question is Zidane's interest in the job also.

Zidane hasn't managed any team for almost 3 years after leaving Real Madrid. He hasn't had any interest other than managing France since then.

I believe Zidane can make France more successful. Because he is really good at winning titles with teams that have a great squad. We have seen his work with Real Madrid like winning the CL title 3 years in a row.  Wink
Didier Deschamps can bringing France in the right track that during train this team he can able to makes France performance is quite stable for almost every big tournaments and gets several trophies from it and indeed after France was failed on World Cup 2022 many people will thought Didier Deschamps will be replaced by other manager and Zidane names was appears as strong candidate moreover Zidane personally has been said he probably will thinking to return to the football world if France federation give him chances to taking over manager position but in fact this rumour never happend because France Football Federation give contract extension to Didier Deschamps until 2026

Recently Phillippe Diallo as the president of France Football Federation has been make a statement that whatever the outcomes of Euro 2024 will be whether France will gets the trophy or not but Didier Deschamps position will be safe at least until World Cup 2026 and France will be into group D with Netherlands, Poland and Austria and if we see based on France performance during qualification stages i am sure they will be qualified to the next round even my prediction is France will be qualified as group champion

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April 01, 2024, 07:11:56 PM
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It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue

The truth is that I would like Zidane to be able to take France to the World Cup and for them to be able to make a difference. I know that directing a country's national team is not the same as directing a club, but Zidane is a coach who is very good, he analyzes everything and knows what position to put each player in, so when we see that he can be the best, I would say yes, Deschamps is good, but I think that Deschamps does not play players that he does not like, in this aspect he is very similar to Luis Enrique with Spain and who is currently at PSG, because what he likes Deschamps did to Benzema in Qatar was something very evident.

Now things can be very different if you Start to see that things are managed by Zidane since for me he has much better experience, a team like France is a team with many stars, but I am sure that Zidane has better strategies and schemes to develop.


We all have heard a lot of stories about Zidane. And recently we also have heard a lot about him coming back to manage a team. But most of them had been rumors and did not have any base. To say that he will be able to do really good with the France national team is probably not a very bad idea to have. After all, he has been able to manage Real Madrid really well. Of course, there is a big difference between club football and national team football. But I think he has shown enough to prove that he will be a capable coach. But the bigger question in this situation in my opinion is probably, is he actually going to take the job?

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April 01, 2024, 07:20:04 PM
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Coaching clubs and national team certainly has its own challenges for a coach including Zidane, yes so far Zidane does have the ability to coach clubs quite well and as a player who has played for country and club, of course Zidane knows what a footballer really wants both when later coaching club or national teams, currently recognized or not,  Zidane's coaching ability has not been fully tested in my opinion, because his achievements coaching only in Madrid and at that time Madrid contained many star players so that made Zidane's job too easy.

Zidane lack of experience in coaching clubs may make France dare not risk the future in the hands of Zidane who is currently experienced just coaching 1 club, so France is more inclined to continue to give confidence to Didier Deschamps so far and even Zidane's opportunity to coach the national team has been tightly closed because Deschamps' contract expires until the 2026 World Cup is over.
I think what you are saying is true, because coaching a club is of course easier than coaching national team to win the euro or even the world cup, especially if we know that the national teams coaches only have a little time to prepare their team and of course they have to monitor players from one game to another in order to get players who suit the needs of the team and that of course Is not done by the club coach in my opinion.
I would guess that no matter what team or what level he manages, he will get the most out of that club. That doesn't mean success right away, of course he could lose too but even if he loses, you would not have the question of "what if" in your mind when you manages a team. This is why it's quite important to make him a manager of any team.

This could be a national team, and France would of course make the most sense, plus they are a good team so if you make Zidane the manager of France, then you can guarantee that they will win the Euro. But if he wants to manage a club team, then that would still be good and he could make the most out of any situation. Dude won 3 UCL in a row, how many managers could ever say that?

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April 02, 2024, 07:39:19 AM
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The truth is that I would like Zidane to be able to take France to the World Cup and for them to be able to make a difference. I know that directing a country's national team is not the same as directing a club, but Zidane is a coach who is very good, he analyzes everything and knows what position to put each player in, so when we see that he can be the best, I would say yes, Deschamps is good, but I think that Deschamps does not play players that he does not like, in this aspect he is very similar to Luis Enrique with Spain and who is currently at PSG, because what he likes Deschamps did to Benzema in Qatar was something very evident.

Now things can be very different if you Start to see that things are managed by Zidane since for me he has much better experience, a team like France is a team with many stars, but I am sure that Zidane has better strategies and schemes to develop.


We all have heard a lot of stories about Zidane. And recently we also have heard a lot about him coming back to manage a team. But most of them had been rumors and did not have any base. To say that he will be able to do really good with the France national team is probably not a very bad idea to have. After all, he has been able to manage Real Madrid really well. Of course, there is a big difference between club football and national team football. But I think he has shown enough to prove that he will be a capable coach. But the bigger question in this situation in my opinion is probably, is he actually going to take the job?
It seems like all of this is just rumor because Phillippe Diallo President of the French Football Federation (FFF) will not bring in Zidane as France coach, they still have enough trust and confidence in Didier Deschamps, who has been France coach for several season.
Zidane is indeed an experienced coach and may be able to make France better, but in reality there has been no decision or official statement regarding Zidane arrival in the Frence national team.
And haven't these rumors been around since 2022 after the World Cup was finished, France failed and there were rumors circulating about Zidane arrival as coach but until now there has been nothing to show that all the reports are true.
Plus, the FFF has made statement regarding this, so I doubt that Zidane will become France coach in the near future to be able to lead France to the 2026 World Cup.

For other European teams such as Bayern Munich, Manchester United and also Juventus, currently they are very much associated with Zidane and of course they are the teams that want to be able to employ Zidane as coach there.

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April 02, 2024, 08:19:18 AM
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It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue

The truth is that I would like Zidane to be able to take France to the World Cup and for them to be able to make a difference. I know that directing a country's national team is not the same as directing a club, but Zidane is a coach who is very good, he analyzes everything and knows what position to put each player in, so when we see that he can be the best, I would say yes, Deschamps is good, but I think that Deschamps does not play players that he does not like, in this aspect he is very similar to Luis Enrique with Spain and who is currently at PSG, because what he likes Deschamps did to Benzema in Qatar was something very evident.

Now things can be very different if you Start to see that things are managed by Zidane since for me he has much better experience, a team like France is a team with many stars, but I am sure that Zidane has better strategies and schemes to develop.


We all have heard a lot of stories about Zidane. And recently we also have heard a lot about him coming back to manage a team. But most of them had been rumors and did not have any base. To say that he will be able to do really good with the France national team is probably not a very bad idea to have. After all, he has been able to manage Real Madrid really well. Of course, there is a big difference between club football and national team football. But I think he has shown enough to prove that he will be a capable coach. But the bigger question in this situation in my opinion is probably, is he actually going to take the job?
If Zidane receives an offer from the French national team, I think he will accept it. He is a legend of France and his coaching experience was immense. We haven't seen him at the head of a team for a long time. Why shouldn't we see him in charge of the French national team? I think he will accept it and play in the matches as the head of the team. They are also one of the favorites for Euro 2024. He can do wonders with the last World Cup finalists, France.

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April 03, 2024, 06:51:06 AM
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We all have heard a lot of stories about Zidane. And recently we also have heard a lot about him coming back to manage a team. But most of them had been rumors and did not have any base. To say that he will be able to do really good with the France national team is probably not a very bad idea to have. After all, he has been able to manage Real Madrid really well. Of course, there is a big difference between club football and national team football. But I think he has shown enough to prove that he will be a capable coach. But the bigger question in this situation in my opinion is probably, is he actually going to take the job?
If Zidane receives an offer from the French national team, I think he will accept it. He is a legend of France and his coaching experience was immense. We haven't seen him at the head of a team for a long time. Why shouldn't we see him in charge of the French national team? I think he will accept it and play in the matches as the head of the team. They are also one of the favorites for Euro 2024. He can do wonders with the last World Cup finalists, France.
I do not think that he will. Dude made it pretty clear that he doesn't want to manage, and while managing a national team would mean a lot lesser games compared to a club team, it would still not make sense. If he wants to manage then he can manage almost half of the world easily, and probably get the job in the other half of the world as well if he pushes for it, so going for France doesn't make sense. Don't get me wrong, he would be perfect for the job and there is nothing wrong with that, I am just saying that we are going to look at something that will change things on the long run.

I believe that the best thing we could do right now is let dude have his retirement and enjoy it, he doesn't want to do anything at all.

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April 03, 2024, 06:55:48 AM
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We all have heard a lot of stories about Zidane. And recently we also have heard a lot about him coming back to manage a team. But most of them had been rumors and did not have any base. To say that he will be able to do really good with the France national team is probably not a very bad idea to have. After all, he has been able to manage Real Madrid really well. Of course, there is a big difference between club football and national team football. But I think he has shown enough to prove that he will be a capable coach. But the bigger question in this situation in my opinion is probably, is he actually going to take the job?
If Zidane receives an offer from the French national team, I think he will accept it. He is a legend of France and his coaching experience was immense. We haven't seen him at the head of a team for a long time. Why shouldn't we see him in charge of the French national team? I think he will accept it and play in the matches as the head of the team. They are also one of the favorites for Euro 2024. He can do wonders with the last World Cup finalists, France.
I do not think that he will. Dude made it pretty clear that he doesn't want to manage, and while managing a national team would mean a lot lesser games compared to a club team, it would still not make sense. If he wants to manage then he can manage almost half of the world easily, and probably get the job in the other half of the world as well if he pushes for it, so going for France doesn't make sense. Don't get me wrong, he would be perfect for the job and there is nothing wrong with that, I am just saying that we are going to look at something that will change things on the long run.

I believe that the best thing we could do right now is let dude have his retirement and enjoy it, he doesn't want to do anything at all.
Yes, maybe he doesn't want to do anything. He could continue to manage Real Madrid if he wanted. Or if any team in the Premier League had made him an offer, he would have accepted it. Zinedine Zidane may not be focusing on managing a team right now, but I believed he could achieve great success with the French national team. He could be an important coach for France. Since he manages many stars, he can easily manage the star players in the French national team because he is also a star.

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I think Turkey won't be a big problem for Portugal either, but I'm not sure about the Czech Republic, I mean I expect the Czech Republic to play better and they should beat Turkey. As for Portugal, yes, this is a very easy group for them, if they can beat the Czech Republic, then I admit that they can win all the games in their group. Georgia will be an outsider, this is clear from the very beginning.

I would say don't underestimate Turkey.  Smiley  Turkey are already favoured more than Czechia to qualify from Group F according to the odds. Turkey had a better qualification phase than them as well. We finished our group as the leader and ahead of a team like Croatia at the same time. This is a really good success.


Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/euro-2024/group-f/winner

This happened thanks to the new manager Vincenzo Montella's strategies. Friendly performances can be very misleading so I'm not taking them into account. Besides we didn't even have our main squad in that match against Austria. I think we are strong enough to beat Czechia and Georgia both to finish in 2nd place at worst.  Smiley

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April 03, 2024, 09:51:03 AM
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I would say don't underestimate Turkey.  Smiley  Turkey are already favoured more than Czechia to qualify from Group F according to the odds. Turkey had a better qualification phase than them as well. We finished our group as the leader and ahead of a team like Croatia at the same time. This is a really good success.


Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/euro-2024/group-f/winner

This happened thanks to the new manager Vincenzo Montella's strategies. Friendly performances can be very misleading so I'm not taking them into account. Besides we didn't even have our main squad in that match against Austria. I think we are strong enough to beat Czechia and Georgia both to finish in 2nd place at worst.  Smiley

In this group there are no doubts only about Portugal, they were lucky with such simple opponents for them, in everything else there is no certainty, I would not even be surprised if Georgia is not the last. But I am still more inclined to believe that the Czech Republic will be able to take second place, they are showing a good game, but the one who does not lose to Portugal will have the best chance, and for the Czech Republic it will be a difficult start, they will play the first match with Portugal.

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April 03, 2024, 05:09:43 PM
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I would say don't underestimate Turkey.  Smiley  Turkey are already favoured more than Czechia to qualify from Group F according to the odds. Turkey had a better qualification phase than them as well. We finished our group as the leader and ahead of a team like Croatia at the same time. This is a really good success.


Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/euro-2024/group-f/winner

This happened thanks to the new manager Vincenzo Montella's strategies. Friendly performances can be very misleading so I'm not taking them into account. Besides we didn't even have our main squad in that match against Austria. I think we are strong enough to beat Czechia and Georgia both to finish in 2nd place at worst.  Smiley
In this group there are no doubts only about Portugal, they were lucky with such simple opponents for them, in everything else there is no certainty, I would not even be surprised if Georgia is not the last. But I am still more inclined to believe that the Czech Republic will be able to take second place, they are showing a good game, but the one who does not lose to Portugal will have the best chance, and for the Czech Republic it will be a difficult start, they will play the first match with Portugal.
Remember, qualifying and the cup itself may have different players, the same Turkey (maybe they didn't care) lost to Austria 6-1 just this break, and they looked like a team that was so horrible that I can't believe that they even qualified, let alone have a chance to actually lead that group.

If they play the same way, they will end up with zero points without a doubt, and considering they do get rare chances to attend these cups, I feel like it wouldn't be that good for them to have such a bad result, it's doubtful they would be in world cup, and they will be forced to hope that they can do better next time out. All in all, I believe that things change, not just for Turkey, but it changes for many teams, from qualifying to cup itself.

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The truth is that I would like Zidane to be able to take France to the World Cup and for them to be able to make a difference. I know that directing a country's national team is not the same as directing a club, but Zidane is a coach who is very good, he analyzes everything and knows what position to put each player in, so when we see that he can be the best, I would say yes, Deschamps is good, but I think that Deschamps does not play players that he does not like, in this aspect he is very similar to Luis Enrique with Spain and who is currently at PSG, because what he likes Deschamps did to Benzema in Qatar was something very evident.

Now things can be very different if you Start to see that things are managed by Zidane since for me he has much better experience, a team like France is a team with many stars, but I am sure that Zidane has better strategies and schemes to develop.


I think you are very right about Zidane to be the better coach for France because there is one more aspect that differentiates club football from national team football. In club football, coaches have an entire season to try things and tinker around with different options, trying to optimize certain tactics and strategies. In the national teams tactical and strategical aspects can't be tinkered around with that much and I think it is more about the authenticity and the aura of a coach than it is about the tactical genius of a coach. There is a limit to what a national coach can change within a short period of time. It's a lot about confidence and trust and Zidane is a coach who knows how to get his players on board and make them believe in themselves. That's why I think he would be the better choice instead of Deschamps. And 100% true that Deschamps doesn't let players play that he doesn't like.

You hit the nail on the head, that's why I think a lot about the style of a Luis Enrique from Spain, I remember how Deschamps made Benzema go and didn't put him to play with Mbappé, I mean something, if he had played with Mbappé maybe the winner It would not have been Argentina in the World Cup , it is very difficult, because considering the way I see Zidane, I remember that when I was in Madrid, he did not include James , and it was because the Colombian did not go to training, it was not prudent He didn't like him, so he would say that he can play very well, and even be the best, but you have to win the position on the field, it is the most common, if only a player who has less talent than another wins, So someone who is a genius has to respect the team, his teammates and the coach, so I think that basically that is the difference between him and Deschamps.

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I believe Zidane can make France more successful. Because he is really good at winning titles with teams that have a great squad. We have seen his work with Real Madrid like winning the CL title 3 years in a row.  Wink

It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue

You have a point there also.  Smiley  France players have been used to playing according to Didier Deschamps system for so many years. There must be a really strong bond there. When there is such change it won't be easy for the players to adapt to Zidane. This would take some good amount of time to happen. As you said it is the same for Zidane also to have full knowledge about the players.

I really don't know what Zidane really wants now though. It has been rumoured for a long time that he wants to work with France as a manager but I don't know if this is really his intention now.

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It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue

The truth is that I would like Zidane to be able to take France to the World Cup and for them to be able to make a difference. I know that directing a country's national team is not the same as directing a club, but Zidane is a coach who is very good, he analyzes everything and knows what position to put each player in, so when we see that he can be the best, I would say yes, Deschamps is good, but I think that Deschamps does not play players that he does not like, in this aspect he is very similar to Luis Enrique with Spain and who is currently at PSG, because what he likes Deschamps did to Benzema in Qatar was something very evident.

Now things can be very different if you Start to see that things are managed by Zidane since for me he has much better experience, a team like France is a team with many stars, but I am sure that Zidane has better strategies and schemes to develop.


We all have heard a lot of stories about Zidane. And recently we also have heard a lot about him coming back to manage a team. But most of them had been rumors and did not have any base. To say that he will be able to do really good with the France national team is probably not a very bad idea to have. After all, he has been able to manage Real Madrid really well. Of course, there is a big difference between club football and national team football. But I think he has shown enough to prove that he will be a capable coach. But the bigger question in this situation in my opinion is probably, is he actually going to take the job?

If it is for France it will definitely be a yes, but since Deschamps is there it is something difficult, because it has to be the French football federation that decides on this, they should not doubt it, because Deschamps already had an opportunity, it is time for him to change. Hands to whoever directs, Zidane deserves a good opportunity, I know that Zidane has fresh ideas, plus the good work he did with Madrid is a resume enough for me to direct him to the French national team, they have also been close to win World Cups and they haven't been able to, then something is wrong and if Deschamps already saw that he can't correct his mistake, that when he doesn't like a player he doesn't put it in, then these types of things are the ones that harm the team in general, For that reason I think that Zidane is new blood, he plays well with the players and he can win the Euro, at least with the EURO They should let him try to see how they do.


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April 04, 2024, 05:26:42 PM
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It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue
You have a point there also.  Smiley  France players have been used to playing according to Didier Deschamps system for so many years. There must be a really strong bond there. When there is such change it won't be easy for the players to adapt to Zidane. This would take some good amount of time to happen. As you said it is the same for Zidane also to have full knowledge about the players.

I really don't know what Zidane really wants now though. It has been rumoured for a long time that he wants to work with France as a manager but I don't know if this is really his intention now.
I agree, that seems to be working as well, one world cup and one world cup finals shows that they are doing alright, I do not think that there is a need to change it anytime soon. France has been pretty well and I think whatever they are doing seems to be working and should keep going. I think they could have won the euro as well, they just got a little unlucky that's all.

I believe that they have a golden generation, great amount of players who are about the same age, and could be a powerhouse for at least 10 more years, that could be very dangerous for the world but it is the truth. This isn't just about Mbappe, sure he is amazing, but even if you remove him, the rest of the squad isn't all that bad neither when you look at it.

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April 05, 2024, 08:00:32 AM
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It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue
You have a point there also.  Smiley  France players have been used to playing according to Didier Deschamps system for so many years. There must be a really strong bond there. When there is such change it won't be easy for the players to adapt to Zidane. This would take some good amount of time to happen. As you said it is the same for Zidane also to have full knowledge about the players.

Yeah, and to be perfectly fair Deschamps is also very well respected in his system, Zidane has not earned it yet, it will be very hard unless he starts out first as adviser or something, or technical assistant. And maybe he feels he's too big to take the role.

You can't step in and build a bond or winning mentality you have to start before you start. I don't think Zidane is a fit at all, I mean I like him so much even as a Barca fan, but I think France needs to look forward, not behind.

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April 05, 2024, 09:28:15 AM
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England are favoured the most considering the current odds given for the champion. But the odd gap is very small with France.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you expect England to finish their incomplete job from Euro 2020 finale? Or would we even see a different champion than England and France?

It would be a big relief for Southgate if he finally achieves a championship with England though.  Grin

In this group there are no doubts only about Portugal, they were lucky with such simple opponents for them, in everything else there is no certainty, I would not even be surprised if Georgia is not the last. But I am still more inclined to believe that the Czech Republic will be able to take second place, they are showing a good game, but the one who does not lose to Portugal will have the best chance, and for the Czech Republic it will be a difficult start, they will play the first match with Portugal.

I talked about Turkey and Czechia like that not only by depending on Turkey's latest performances in the qualifiers. But also considering the history between these 2 countries in football as well. Turkey have a really good history against them especially in Euro tournaments. Maybe psychological advantage might also have some role.  Smiley

However we will see maybe I will be wrong and your prediction will come true.

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April 05, 2024, 10:44:28 AM
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You have a point there also.  Smiley  France players have been used to playing according to Didier Deschamps system for so many years. There must be a really strong bond there. When there is such change it won't be easy for the players to adapt to Zidane. This would take some good amount of time to happen. As you said it is the same for Zidane also to have full knowledge about the players.
With time I believe that Zidane will make a great manager for the French side having been a player who won the world cup trophy for France 1998 and have contributed so much in the French national team. I feel there will be so much nationalism and solidarity among the players with Zidane as the coach. No doubt Didier Deschamps have this special way of bringing the best in the players, having returned the team to a formidable force after some years of poor performance, I admire his coaching skills and charisma.

Yeah, and to be perfectly fair Deschamps is also very well respected in his system, Zidane has not earned it yet, it will be very hard unless he starts out first as adviser or something, or technical assistant. And maybe he feels he's too big to take the role.
It is obvious you are underestimating Zinadine Zidane. He has all that is needed to make a great coach for the French side and just a matter of time before it becomes obvious that they made the best choice making him their coach. You cannot just rate him when he barely even started the job, at least after playing two serious competitions it will be easier to access him.  



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It's much much different with a national team, can be a bit of randomness. You don't know the team very well, they don't know you, you don't even know about injuries and if players play different, it's very much your luck. You have a known team, you don't have a known quality.

Zidane knows this. It's different to instil motivation for 11 players who are like family, eat sleep train together. But to have a group who only have nationality in common, no, not the same. Zidane is not so gutsy to take this risk Tongue
You have a point there also.  Smiley  France players have been used to playing according to Didier Deschamps system for so many years. There must be a really strong bond there. When there is such change it won't be easy for the players to adapt to Zidane. This would take some good amount of time to happen. As you said it is the same for Zidane also to have full knowledge about the players.

Yeah, and to be perfectly fair Deschamps is also very well respected in his system, Zidane has not earned it yet, it will be very hard unless he starts out first as adviser or something, or technical assistant. And maybe he feels he's too big to take the role.

You can't step in and build a bond or winning mentality you have to start before you start. I don't think Zidane is a fit at all, I mean I like him so much even as a Barca fan, but I think France needs to look forward, not behind.
Zidane has earned whatever he wants to earn by winning three champions league titles in a row. I am not saying that he showed anything else, that was it, he managed for only three seasons and he did nothing else and won that three UCL back to back. That alone is a reason why he is not coming back.

Why would he? He has all the money in the world, a good investment strategy I bet, and will never need money. He tried his hand at manager position, won three UCL in a row, and if he ever comes back and loses that would taint his reputation as a manager. Imagine him going to France, and then the team sucks and loses, wouldn't he be the one that would be responsible for it? The team does good already, if they do badly, then all his reputation he built as a manager would be gone. So, he is rightfully afraid.

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You have a point there also.  Smiley  France players have been used to playing according to Didier Deschamps system for so many years. There must be a really strong bond there. When there is such change it won't be easy for the players to adapt to Zidane. This would take some good amount of time to happen. As you said it is the same for Zidane also to have full knowledge about the players.

I really don't know what Zidane really wants now though. It has been rumoured for a long time that he wants to work with France as a manager but I don't know if this is really his intention now.
Didier Deschamps have been long term manager for France and won Euro and FIFA World Cup trophies, I don't see bad achievement for France national teams under Didier Deschamps era and replacing his position by Zidane. I think its rumor have been long term and France football federation right now keep focus with Didier Deschamps until the next edition playing in Europe 2024.
No doubt with Zidane reputation success winning Champion League three teams with Real Madrid and winning La Liga tittle, but he has been three years without return back to be manager and likely he needs more adaption if want to be France manager position.
Depend on France teams achievement in Euro 2024, if qualify to final and success become the winner seems dificult with Didier Deschamps loss his position as France manager.

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Yeah, and to be perfectly fair Deschamps is also very well respected in his system, Zidane has not earned it yet, it will be very hard unless he starts out first as adviser or something, or technical assistant. And maybe he feels he's too big to take the role.

You can't step in and build a bond or winning mentality you have to start before you start. I don't think Zidane is a fit at all, I mean I like him so much even as a Barca fan, but I think France needs to look forward, not behind.
What you say is quite reasonable in my opinion, although Zidane managed to make Madrid champions during his coaching, but certainly it will be very difficult for him to be able to bring France to be better than Deschamps is doing now, Zidane got all his wishes when coaching Madrid because the club is ready to fulfill it, but for a national team coach of course many things must be done by the coach himself and of course it takes hard work and also experience in selecting players.

For now it will be very risky for France if it gives belief zidane to coach the national team, because after all winning the Champions League 3 in a row is easier than qualifying the national team for the World Cup or the Euros so far, I think the success of coaching a club does not guarantee that the coach will be able to bring glory to the national team and we can see Luis Enrique, Fabio Capello and Hansi Flick who failed miserably in the national team but have many achievements in the clubs they coached during the time this, I think if Zidane wants to gain belief as a national team coach of course he has to start from the bottom by being an assistant or coaching and bringing success to some other different clubs at the moment, so that will make his chances of coaching the national team will be quite big in the future.

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