A lottery's defense to not paying a huge winning.

[Obari]

I came across a story on this thread about a lottery company refusing to make payments to a player who legally played a game with about $690 and won over $160,000 but was denied payment on the grounds that his winning data has been wiped out of their system.
Below is the link to the original story.
https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/
Link to the topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418121.msg61175078#msg61175078.

I just came across another news,where the lottery company, has now come to a defense of its action for not paying the winner his winnings with claims that winner was involved in irregularities. And that around 2019 he won a huge sum of money from them and now another winner from same outlet which was suspicious to them.
https://leadership.ng/lagos-lottery-coy-says-claimant-of-n72-2m-win-engaged-in-irregularities/

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

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[coin-investor]

If there are really irregularities in the bet then they have the right not to pay the player, if the player believes he played in good faith and has not resorted to cheating then he has all the right to claim the money, based on the article its already in court so it's better that they wait for the decision.

For a company to be in charge in court on denying payment is not good for its reputation and the name will be further damaged if they are found guilty of denying payment, the government should step in to check if this company is holding its lottery in a fair manner.

[Yogee]

...What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

I think attacking the winner and accusing him of irregular activities is just their way of saving face. The lottery company tried to compromise and asked to pay the winner with a lesser amount. That alone should tell us that they know they did something wrong or that their system was messed up. Let's leave the result of the case to the court.

[Oilacris]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

What irregularities that they do mean? Have they able to specify on how or whats been done by the said bettor? or simply its just an alibi for them not to pay off those winnings?

Its true that recently there are indeed topics or issues in relation with lottery winners which hadn't been paid which do really sucks on the ones who had experienced in.

They shouldn't have run a lottery if they cant really pay off those winners or give on what they do own or won.Legal aspect? If possible then you
could eventually sue them out and force them for you to pay and lets see on how they would be making those countermeasure or reasoning they would be making.

[acroman08]

so they claim that the winner was cheating, If they can prove that he was cheating I think they'll win the case but if not then I think the complainant will win the case. but I am a little suspicious of the lottery company because in another article you shared, they claim that the machine was faulty and offered the complainant money as some type of compensation (I think) on three seperate occasions.

[GxSTxV]

Everything is obvious with the story and it’s not the first time these companies do it even they know that eventually one will win the lottery, they should pay the winner without any issue and create a good reputation also just as an investment for their side. Playing dirty games against the winner will only harm their name and will lose any participation anymore. It’s hard to understand how these kind of people moderating lottery

[Rruchi man]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

I don't know if the stories of lottery or gambling platforms making excuses not to pay out huge winnings to people is becoming more or that they have always been happening and it is me who have not been up to date with them, because I've been reading a lot of stories recently about similar situations. This can be really bad for the image of the lottery company and the image of lottery companies in general if this sort of issues are ruled in favour of the online lottery platforms.

[livingfree]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Let's just think that the lottery company is honest, first, they'll have to look at every angle of that win if it's a clear shot and the winner really deserves it.

If they do conduct an investigation just to prove the clear winning numbers and bet of that winner, they'll give it eventually once they're done with that investigation and background.

As long as there's no glitch or error has happened, they'll give it. But the problem is, these companies that don't want to give the winnings, they can reason about such if they don't want to give it.

[PX-Z]

A company refusing to pay the full winning amount and then later on offering smaller amount when the claimant decided to go to court is really something suspicious. That means that they want to pay him and just making excuses that their system developed faults etc.

About the question, a win is a win, having system error is not an excuse to not to pay, like its not the user's fault if the system made an error its them the company and they need to fix it and aware the amount to the winning user.

Court will always asked enough evidence from defendant regarding the claims of the people who complaint, if the defendant cannot make enough evidence, witness, then the complainant wins.

[n0ne]

It is the winners fate to undergo such kind of situation. The win is clear, if not he couldn't be contacted by the authority with some bargain. Finally the authorities will try to bribe the judiciary and win the case against the lottery winner. Whether it is huge winning or low, it is a must to settle the winner so to keep its reputation. It looks like the platform is with plans of running away closing its service at the earliest.

[uneng]

Sorry, but the gambling company didn't mention any proofs of irregularities to justify their decision of not paying the winner. They simply claim the winner is a cheater and that they won't accept being blackmailed or bullied in order to pay the money.

In my opinion that is a very disgusting approach by the casino which only reinforces the winner gambler's side.

[dothebeats]

Isn't this the same topic wherein the company is trying to pay less than what the winnings are? If there is an attempt to pay the winner with less the amount that they should have, it means that the lottery company somehow recognizes the win but cannot pay the prize in full. There already is the gesture but they just can't shoulder the $160,000 win. Probably just them trying to cheat the winner by settling with a lower amount.

Hopefully the winner never gets tired of pursuing this case because he obviously has a lot of reasons to get this case in his favor.

[chaser15]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Obviously, if there are irregularities, the winnings can't be claimed. I think the lottery itself has valid reasons that are clearly pointed out by the authorities.

It's now up to the judge handling the case to release the decision.

Sorry, but the gambling company didn't mention any proofs of irregularities to justify their decision of not paying the winner. They simply claim the winner is a cheater and that they won't accept being blackmailed or bullied in order to pay the money.

Did you read the article? The matter was already in court.

Do you think a gambling company will win just by the statement in the court? Of course, they supported their claims. There are already several big wins that the company processed without a problem therefore there's really an issue with this alleged person involved.

Anyways, we just rely on what we read. We don't know the exact details of the case.

[noormcs5]

I came across a story on this thread about a lottery company refusing to make payments to a player who legally played a game with about $690 and won over $160,000 but was denied payment on the grounds that his winning data has been wiped out of their system.
Below is the link to the original story.
https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/
Link to the topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418121.msg61175078#msg61175078.

I just came across another news,where the lottery company, has now come to a defense of its action for not paying the winner his winnings with claims that winner was involved in irregularities. And that around 2019 he won a huge sum of money from them and now another winner from same outlet which was suspicious to them.
https://leadership.ng/lagos-lottery-coy-says-claimant-of-n72-2m-win-engaged-in-irregularities/

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Well, I think that the lottery company is not willing to pay the winner and they are finding different excuses to prove themselves right. Yes, there could be irregulated on the player's behalf but chances are slim for that. The sad thing is that we will never know who was right, the gambling house (lottery company in this case), or the person who won the lottery.

These days, I am hearing these kinds of stories often that the gamblers are denied their payments. Not good for the gambling industry indeed as it will raise concerns about the trust on the gambling houses.

[alegotardo]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

I believe there are many factors that need to be analyzed.
Among them, I highlight the ones that would be most important...

First and most obvious is the reputation of this site, are there any past cases of problems involving this same casino? How were they resolved?

Assuming they are honest, the second point to watch would be financial health, do they have money to pay what they owe?

Third, but not least, is to know if the player's complaint is really legitimate and if in fact he has not committed any wrongdoing.

[kotajikikox]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

they may win or not? the truth is this will reflect to that company's reputation and in the long run will ruin their business , maybe in  reality they will win the case and the players will suffer but in  the end? they will lose reputation and the bettors will transfer to other company not unless this gambling business is run by government that will take effect the case and popularity .

[adzino]

That is not called "defense", it is called scamming. If the casino denies to pay the winners and find excuses not to pay, then the casino is scamming their players. I doubt a legit casino would do anything like this because all it would do is hurt their reputation. They would be making more if they stay legit.

If the casino thinks that there are "irregularities" and the player is cheating, then the casino should show them the proof and confiscate the funds. If they can't prove what they are accusing the player of, they should pay the player.

[piebeyb]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

depending on which country you live in sometimes the law can be bought with money and money has the power to determine who is right and who is wrong, if this happened in my country and the lottery company spent $20k to bribe i think they would easily win the case , because $160k is not a small amount of money, but let's see the results later if it is proven that the lottery company is cheating obviously it will be a bad image for other lottery companies but if indeed the lottery winner is proven to have committed fraud of course he will accept the consequences

[Daltonik]

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What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Well, they could also refer to the facts from the movie "Jerry & Marge go large", which apparently someone watched from the lottery organizers. Seriously, the organizing company has much wider opportunities to win in this case than the player, and they can always refer to some point of their rules that they think has been violated. That's just the whole scandal is unlikely to benefit them because of their damaged reputation.

[Strongkored]

The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

Need for further clarification, so this is the same case as the first thread? and this is just like an update that the gambling company is now accusing players of cheating so they can get this big win?
As far as I read the news from the first thread that this case has gone to court and of course the casino must defend to be able to win the case and accuse players of cheating is something that many casinos do but if it can't be proven then the player will win this claim
But what should be a concern is whether the judiciary there is honest enough or it is also filled with corrupt people who can win the casino because they have received bribes even though the casino does not provide evidence of player cheating.
Moreover, wouldn't it be better to just create one thread to discuss the same case, or else you lock the first thread so it's not like multiple threads