2023 Oscar Awards betting and discussions

[bbc.reporter]

The Oscar Award ceremony is just a few hours away. Have you decided on your top picks yet? It's time to start making some tough choices! Which films and performances have truly resonated with you this year? Will your picks align with the Academy's choices, or will there be some surprises?

So, grab some popcorn, sit back, and let's see who takes home the coveted golden statuettes.  

All Quiet On The Western Front won 2 awards already for best cinematography and best foreign movie. I did not hear antiwar speeches except from the speech of the best documentary awardees hehe.

Also, the president of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences went on stage. She is Chinese. This removes all my hopes that All Quiet might win heheehe. Best picture will go to the movie with many Chinese actors Everything Everywhere.

@nullama. There is a Netflix special from Chris Rock's stand up comedy. He talks about the truth about what he speculates why Will Smith slapped him hehe.

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[rdbase]

Here in India, a lot of hype was generated after the song "Naatu Naatu" got shortlisted. And there is a good chance that it may win the Oscar for best original song. This time the media is also covering the Oscars with a lot of interest, since the song got shortlisted. The song is taken out from the Indian film RRR, which was a grand success at the box office when it was released. The last time an Indian entry won the Oscar was way back in 2009, when AR Rahman won the award for best song (Jai Ho from the movie Slumdog Millionaire).

Wow! I am surprised the song Naatu Naatu won best song for the Oscar being the first nominated movie from India to receive it on their first try.
Right before the performance of the song the announcer mentioned it was viewed over 123 million times. Which to me was hard to believe as I never heard of it before seeing it mentioned here first on forum.

The one I had high hopes to win best picture is still Everything Everywhere All at Once since they had the most nominations from the academy at 11.
With Michelle Yeoh winning best actress since her fellow acting partner won best supporting actor already, Ke Huy Quan.
Haven't seen him in a film in a very long time. I remember him as Data from the adventure 80's movie and also in Indiana Jones as Shortrun for his first role.

[Betwrong]

So it seems Guillermo del Toro got his third Oscar for his animated movie "Pinocchio".
I have not seen it yet, but I am aware of how work intensive can stop-motion movies be, for the sake of the spectacular results. So I am almost sure it is a well deserved award for Mr. Del Toro and his team.

Of course, congratulations for those who predicted Del Toro's win and got some money off that bet. 

It was absolutely a well deserved award, and it was one of the most predictable Oscars too. Last time I checked, about 12 hours ago, the odds for Guillermo del Toro's  winning Animated Feature Oscar were 1.01.

I've seen the movie, and it's a masterpiece. No wonder that apart from Oscars it's got another 69 wins & 118 nominations. 1h 57min of total enjoyment awaits you, my friend.

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Also, the president of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences went on stage. She is Chinese. This removes all my hopes that All Quiet might win heheehe. Best picture will go to the movie with many Chinese actors Everything Everywhere.
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You were joking, right?

But for someone who might not know I'll say that the president of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences can't impact the outcome other than by voting with her single vote, as well as thousands of other academy members.

[Rikafip]

I generally don't agree with Academy when it comes to Best Picture winners (looking back at the last ~15 years, the only time I actually agreed with them was Nomadland), this is the first time I disliked the winner so much I couldn't even finish it and probably won't even give it a 2nd chance. Kudos to Everything Everywhere All at Once though, not an easy feat to win 7 Oscars, especially not for movie with smaller production.

Biggest surprise for me was that The Banshees of Inisherin didn't win a single Oscar. While I knew that Colin Farrell beating Brendan Fraser is unlikely (even though i preferrede Colin's performance), I still hoped for at least for Best Original Screenplay but I guess since movie didn't have any woke bs, chances to win anything were slim to none.  

Needless to say I failed miserably at betting because I went for those who I though should win, not for those who I thought would probably win.

[RealMalatesta]

I generally don't agree with Academy when it comes to Best Picture winners (looking back at the last ~15 years, the only time I actually agreed with them was Nomadland), this is the first time I disliked the winner so much I couldn't even finish it and probably won't even give it a 2nd chance. Kudos to Everything Everywhere All at Once though, not an easy feat to win 7 Oscars, especially not for movie with smaller production.

Biggest surprise for me was that The Banshees of Inisherin didn't win a single Oscar. While I knew that Colin Farrell beating Brendan Fraser is unlikely (even though i preferrede Colin's performance), I still hoped for at least for Best Original Screenplay but I guess since movie didn't have any woke bs, chances to win anything were slim to none.  

Needless to say I failed miserably at betting because I went for those who I though should win, not for those who I thought would probably win.

You are 100% right if you ask me. The movie was a terrible one and Oscars are getting worse and worse gradually, the party itself and the entertainment it provides still holds if you ask me, all the talks beforehand, all the speeches, all the funny moments that happens they are all great in my book, but the actual movies and the winners? Absolutely horrible.

This year the one I agree with so much was Brendan Fraser who won the best actor category, that dude was awesome in the movie and I agree that he deserved to win, and after such a long time being absent from the big name list, he is finally back again and that means so much to me because I loved him growing up.

[Slow death]

I still think that it made no sense at all and to react like that to a joke is beyond bonkers.

In the context of an open relationship it made sense, his first reaction was to laugh it off but the joke was not anything close to polite, it was a real low blow.  Personally I see no problem with his extreme objection but a slap officially counts as violence which means it wasn't really anything that could have been planned or will be repeated this year in any way but yea it was nothing that made sense at the time so I first thought it was a joke of some kind.   No side bet for extreme repeat exists that Ive seen sadly :p

I'm not a psychologist, but in my opinion the reaction (something unacceptable) will smith is the reaction of a person who is suffering a lot inside but wants to ignore the problem, in this case I think the guy has many depcoes that the woman brings him but because he wanted to live off appearances he didn't face the problem and since chris rock made a joke about his wife, at that time he behaved like a protector of the woman thinking that with that he would keep up appearances, but he didn't think about the consequences that this would bring

now what I think about the reaction after that is that it was a very exaggerated reaction, they shouldn't have punished him like that, I say that because we can all see that American society does not have good moral values, they are not a good example for anyone, Is something obvious that, all actors have or have had many women, lovers, and most actors have already been involved with drugs and alcohol addiction, so why punish them so severely when they are all the best examples?

because they simply didn't give him a fine and told him to apologize and that was it, the subject would be closed, will smith has good films, it wasn't fair to harm the guy in that way, I even think that some saw an opportunity to destroy the guy, because certain things of punishments against him were not normal, they were very unfair and exaggerated

[Captain Corporate]

Does that make it ok to hit someone though? I mean just because others are bad, should holywood let a global bad act to be ok as well? I think what you are looking for is the reverse, we should punish will smith, but also punish anyone else who did something bad. If you are allowing other people to be bad, and then saying will smith should also be bad is not the solution to fixing any of this problem. I think they are not as bad as you imagine, but in the end even if they were, that doesn't justify what will smith did and that is why the punishment was definitely good, in fact a life time ban should be alright, doesn't seem like someone who punches another person at the oscars should ever be in oscars as an example.

[ChiBitCTy]

I still think that it made no sense at all and to react like that to a joke is beyond bonkers.

In the context of an open relationship it made sense, his first reaction was to laugh it off but the joke was not anything close to polite, it was a real low blow.  Personally I see no problem with his extreme objection but a slap officially counts as violence which means it wasn't really anything that could have been planned or will be repeated this year in any way but yea it was nothing that made sense at the time so I first thought it was a joke of some kind.   No side bet for extreme repeat exists that Ive seen sadly :p

I'm not a psychologist, but in my opinion the reaction (something unacceptable) will smith is the reaction of a person who is suffering a lot inside but wants to ignore the problem, in this case I think the guy has many depcoes that the woman brings him but because he wanted to live off appearances he didn't face the problem and since chris rock made a joke about his wife, at that time he behaved like a protector of the woman thinking that with that he would keep up appearances, but he didn't think about the consequences that this would bring

now what I think about the reaction after that is that it was a very exaggerated reaction, they shouldn't have punished him like that, I say that because we can all see that American society does not have good moral values, they are not a good example for anyone, Is something obvious that, all actors have or have had many women, lovers, and most actors have already been involved with drugs and alcohol addiction, so why punish them so severely when they are all the best examples?

because they simply didn't give him a fine and told him to apologize and that was it, the subject would be closed, will smith has good films, it wasn't fair to harm the guy in that way, I even think that some saw an opportunity to destroy the guy, because certain things of punishments against him were not normal, they were very unfair and exaggerated

lol what? Dude you're completely wrong and misinformed.  "I say that because we can all see that American society does not have good moral values, they are not a good example for anyone"  This is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read.  You have no idea what you're talking about.  If anything being a progressive country shows just the opposite...unlike the insanity that much of east portrays in their outdated ideals.

Will Smith was banned from the Oscars for 10 years first off.  Secondly, it was up to Chris Rock whether or not he wanted to pursue legal action and he chose not to.  Will Smith was wrong, and deserved his punishment. 

You're all over the place with what you're saying here.

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Will Smith acted irrationally but I still have more respect for him then the scummy comments Chris Rock or anyone similar would throw at someone for medical conditions they have no control over, that is the real rat on the stage in that moment.  An angry man throwing a slap is almost admirable in comparison and now he has to take the hit and any losses for his action but if I was in that business I'd support and respect him at least somewhat for just a basic normal human reaction and he was controlled enough that it was a slap not a punch.  Dont do it but would I criticize that man, no way would I tbh.

Congrats to those that won, some who have been waiting and trying their best for years so that was nice to see in that respect.    Somehow I did bet this film to get awards, just because the odds were decent for that outcome so I put on a small amount but I didnt have high confidence in it occuring so not a big win.

[bbc.reporter]

I generally don't agree with Academy when it comes to Best Picture winners (looking back at the last ~15 years, the only time I actually agreed with them was Nomadland), this is the first time I disliked the winner so much I couldn't even finish it and probably won't even give it a 2nd chance. Kudos to Everything Everywhere All at Once though, not an easy feat to win 7 Oscars, especially not for movie with smaller production.

Biggest surprise for me was that The Banshees of Inisherin didn't win a single Oscar. While I knew that Colin Farrell beating Brendan Fraser is unlikely (even though i preferrede Colin's performance), I still hoped for at least for Best Original Screenplay but I guess since movie didn't have any woke bs, chances to win anything were slim to none.  

Needless to say I failed miserably at betting because I went for those who I though should win, not for those who I thought would probably win.

It appears the Oscars have been looking for movies with happy endings for 2 years. It might be because of the pandemic, the war in Ukraine and other negative news. However, I speculate that Russia's invasion of Ukraine will not be avoidable and the threat of a nuclear war will be the biggest storyline in mainstream news media. On account of this, my next bet for best picture for the next Oscar awards is Oppenheimer, directed by Christopher Nolan who will be my bet for best director. Hollywood will be on the nuclear war fear agenda hehehehee.

[rdbase]

The Oscar Award ceremony is just a few hours away. Have you decided on your top picks yet? It's time to start making some tough choices! Which films and performances have truly resonated with you this year? Will your picks align with the Academy's choices, or will there be some surprises?

So, grab some popcorn, sit back, and let's see who takes home the coveted golden statuettes.  

All Quiet On The Western Front won 2 awards already for best cinematography and best foreign movie. I did not hear antiwar speeches except from the speech of the best documentary awardees hehe.

Also, the president of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences went on stage. She is Chinese. This removes all my hopes that All Quiet might win heheehe. Best picture will go to the movie with many Chinese actors Everything Everywhere.

@nullama. There is a Netflix special from Chris Rock's stand up comedy. He talks about the truth about what he speculates why Will Smith slapped him hehe.

You can not deny the actor/actress from Everything Everywhere All at once having the best reactions to winning for the night. Their award speeches were from the heart as you can read the emotions from their words and on their faces.
I liked the after-show speech that Ke Huy Quan gave. He is a very funny guy as he approach the microphone that was on a high stand, he asked "Can this be lowered!?" Typical of his primary role as Shortrun from Temple of Doom which I believe won an Academy Awards many years ago probably for movie FX or score from John Williams.
I think the beloved composer was there too and into his 90s which is an accomplish in itself. After these past couple of years during the pandemic you had mentioned in the post above with so many lost during the annual in memoriam near the end.

Just a side note: Slumdog Millionaire was not considered by most as the first Indian film to win an Oscar, Daniel Boyle directed it so it was seen by most as a British film but set in India with the main character and cast being Indian.
Doing a quick search it is even considered as a British film according to the film's directors wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Boyle#:~:text=Boyle's%202008%20film%20Slumdog%20Millionaire,BAFTA%20Award%20for%20Best%20Director.

[Sithara007]

Wow! I am surprised the song Naatu Naatu won best song for the Oscar being the first nominated movie from India to receive it on their first try.
Right before the performance of the song the announcer mentioned it was viewed over 123 million times. Which to me was hard to believe as I never heard of it before seeing it mentioned here first on forum.

The one I had high hopes to win best picture is still Everything Everywhere All at Once since they had the most nominations from the academy at 11.
With Michelle Yeoh winning best actress since her fellow acting partner won best supporting actor already, Ke Huy Quan.
Haven't seen him in a film in a very long time. I remember him as Data from the adventure 80's movie and also in Indiana Jones as Shortrun for his first role.

Here in India, everyone is quite excited about the song winning Oscar. One fact that maybe unknown to the vast majority here is regarding the location where the song was shot. The location is Mariinskyi Palace in Kyiv, which is the official residence of the president of Ukraine. It was shot in August 2021, just a few months before the Russo-Ukrainian war broke out. In total some 400-500 actors took part, with the vast majority of them being Ukrainian extras. It took 15 days to shot this 5-minute song. Those who want to watch it, can go to this YouTube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsU0CGZoV8E

[Rikafip]

It appears the Oscars have been looking for movies with happy endings for 2 years. It might be because of the pandemic, the war in Ukraine and other negative news.

I don't think that happy endings have much (if anytthing) with the reason why CODA and EEOAO won, or pandemic for that matter. I mean, 2021 year was even more depressive yet Nomadland (which wasn't a feel good movie either) won.

However, I speculate that Russia's invasion of Ukraine will not be avoidable and the threat of a nuclear war will be the biggest storyline in mainstream news media. On account of this, my next bet for best picture for the next Oscar awards is Oppenheimer, directed by Christopher Nolan who will be my bet for best director. Hollywood will be on the nuclear war fear agenda hehehehee.

Dunno, I am not so enthusiastic about Oppenheimer, mainly because its Nolan behind it and I don't like the way he writes characters in his movies. Somehow he manages to make me not care about them at all and I am not sure that's the best thing for biopic. Its been a while since he made a movie I liked.

[decodx]

It's true that All Quiet on the Western Front received numerous awards, and it's possible that passion for the film prevailed over its commercial appeal. However, I also believe that other factors, such as the film's powerful message, contributed to its success. While it may be a war movie, its themes and messages are relevant to people from all walks of life.

As for my perspective on EEAAO and its portrayal of an Asian family, as a non-American, I find the message to be clear and relatable. It's good to have diverse representation in the media and to celebrate stories from different cultures and backgrounds. However, I'm afraid no one will even remember this movie in 10-15 years, and that's something the Academy needs to fix in the future in my opinion. The Academy needs to strike a balance between recognizing films that push boundaries and represent diverse perspectives while also ensuring that the awards hold their prestige and value.

Unfortunately, all my bets on this event were lost. But luckily, I didn't put much. We're trying to be responsible gamblers, right? 

[famososMuertos]

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On this side of the planet, said song was very popular, with challenges on social networks, especially, and on Netflix it swept as one of the movies with the most likes of the year 2022.

Excellent movie, it took me more than a week to watch it and it's seriously very difficult to sit +3 hours straight to watch a movie. The same thing happened to me with the The Irishman.
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I think they were somewhat boring Ceremony, there were no emotions and no surprises with the winners, so very Academy Awards.

[Betwrong]

I generally don't agree with Academy when it comes to Best Picture winners (looking back at the last ~15 years, the only time I actually agreed with them was Nomadland), this is the first time I disliked the winner so much I couldn't even finish it and probably won't even give it a 2nd chance. Kudos to Everything Everywhere All at Once though, not an easy feat to win 7 Oscars, especially not for movie with smaller production.

Biggest surprise for me was that The Banshees of Inisherin didn't win a single Oscar. While I knew that Colin Farrell beating Brendan Fraser is unlikely (even though i preferrede Colin's performance), I still hoped for at least for Best Original Screenplay but I guess since movie didn't have any woke bs, chances to win anything were slim to none.  

Needless to say I failed miserably at betting because I went for those who I though should win, not for those who I thought would probably win.

And for me it was the first time I won something from my betting on Oscars. When I saw Everything Everywhere All at Once last Summer I said: "This film is going to get Oscar for the Best Picture." Then, little by little, I watched all the future nominees, and I thought most of them were great pictures ... But yeah, I know, what the word "great" even means in regards to art? I totally agree with ChatGPT saying that it "is a subjective matter of personal taste and opinion."

I for one, watched some of this year's nominees several times, but watching Avatar: The Way of Water and The Fabelmans was torture to me, and I couldn't even watch them halfway through. ... Yes, we are so different. But let's not start killing each other because of that.

And I agree with you regarding "Nomadland" btw. I mean, it wasn't the only time I agreed with with the Academy, but the movie is a masterpiece imo.

[Rikafip]

And for me it was the first time I won something from my betting on Oscars. When I saw Everything Everywhere All at Once last Summer I said: "This film is going to get Oscar for the Best Picture." Then, little by little, I watched all the future nominees, and I thought most of them were great pictures ... But yeah, I know, what the word "great" even means in regards to art? I totally agree with ChatGPT saying that it "is a subjective matter of personal taste and opinion."

I had really high hopes for Everything Everywhere All at Once as some of my friends really liked it, but I simply coulnd't handle all that chaos and silliness, even though I usually don't have issues with either of those things. For example, I know that some people coulnd't handle Uncut Gems for very same reason (being loud and chaotic) while for me its one of the best movies in recent years.

I for one, watched some of this year's nominees several times, but watching Avatar: The Way of Water and The Fabelmans was torture to me, and I couldn't even watch them halfway through. ... Yes, we are so different. But let's not start killing each other because of that.

Agree about Avatar, I was bored out of my mind and coulnd't wait for it to finish and get out of cinema, while The Fablemans I liked way more than I thought I will.

And I agree with you regarding "Nomadland" btw. I mean, it wasn't the only time I agreed with with the Academy, but the movie is a masterpiece imo.

Same here, Nomadland was one of the rare cases that I actually agreed with Academy as I liked the movie a lot. If you haven't already, I suggest you to check The Rider, another Chloe Zhao movie that I also liked.

[bitgolden]

However, I speculate that Russia's invasion of Ukraine will not be avoidable and the threat of a nuclear war will be the biggest storyline in mainstream news media. On account of this, my next bet for best picture for the next Oscar awards is Oppenheimer, directed by Christopher Nolan who will be my bet for best director. Hollywood will be on the nuclear war fear agenda hehehehee.

Dunno, I am not so enthusiastic about Oppenheimer, mainly because its Nolan behind it and I don't like the way he writes characters in his movies. Somehow he manages to make me not care about them at all and I am not sure that's the best thing for biopic. Its been a while since he made a movie I liked.

Are we even really cool about directors ignoring what people want to watch and they started to focus a bit more on these new "epic" movies that aims at winning something? Oppenheimer looks like a movie we will watch, that is 100% true, because it is Nolan and look at the cast, why would I not watch it.

But, I promise you, I can make a better movie with that budget and that cast, not me personally as a director, but give me the money and let me be a producer and I can hire the same director but hire a different script, not because this will suck, we haven't even seen it, but it is a reward season movie and that sucks, people hate on Marvel but at least they do movies for the public, not for awards.

[Lorence.xD]

Kudos to Everything Everywhere All at Once though, not an easy feat to win 7 Oscars, especially not for movie with smaller production.

The first time I watched this film left me speechless because it just a masterpiece. The story, the plot, the production and everything is just so good that's why when I found out that they are made with a smaller production is just unbelievable. The part where the team used youtube for their editing just wow like they produced something like that just using internet. So when Everything Everywhere All at Once got nominated for the Oscars, I'd already bet for it by just experiencing the movie. No bias for the other movies but this was just spectacular. I bet with my friends with different kinds of awards like $10 for every awards since its just like a friendly bet. I bet almost for EEAO but good thing they won a lot! I'll watch some movie from the winners since I haven't see the others yet and I'll compare it to my experience from the EEAO.

[Rikafip]

But, I promise you, I can make a better movie with that budget and that cast, not me personally as a director, but give me the money and let me be a producer and I can hire the same director but hire a different script, not because this will suck, we haven't even seen it, but it is a reward season movie and that sucks, people hate on Marvel but at least they do movies for the public, not for awards.

Cool story bro. 

How experienced you are in the movie industry, how many movies you produced so far or worked on in any capacity that you claim you can do a much better work than Nolan? Gotta love guys like you that probably never suceeded at anything in their life, telling how better they would be than people who are actually doing it for a living.