[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023)

[Yamifoud]

But let's see first what the first fight will bring, maybe it could be just one sided and end in less than 10 rounds and someone getting his ass knock out for good that he doesn't want to have a rematch.

In that case then there's no trilogy anymore, maybe a rematch but I'm sure it will have the same outcome since the first fight was already obvious it's just a one-sided fight. If they'll make a controversial decision in the first fight like what happened to Wilder vs Fury fight where the first fight was declared as a draw, then there are still 2 fights where Fury has dominated the KO artist.

[mirakal]

It appears that Oscar dela Hoya is showing his real agenda for this fight. It is not money, he wants a trilogy of fights between Tank and King Ry to collect the most money hehehe. This is something similar to Dan Larimer's ICO for EOS where the ICO was collecting money from the community for 1 year and became the largest ICO to have a token sale with $4 billion collected hehehehe.



“This is the best fighting the best, and I strongly feel that when you have a performance where you shine, where you look good, and you fight with passion, fight hard, there is no loser, there’s no loss.

“I see this fight as an even fight. Obviously, my boy Ryan Garcia is going to win, but I can see a trilogy taking place. It’s that type of fight because both guys are undefeated, both guys are young, and both guys are passionate about what they do. Both guys have a huge fan base. This is a trilogy.

Source https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/de-la-hoya-gives-update-on-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-contract-issues/

That might happen or not really, but first let's talk about their first bout as talking about a trilogy is quite premature as of this time because I really doubt that both of them will just agree with Oscar Dela Hoya and imprint their first defeat towards each other so that a trilogy will indeed happen in the future. Let alone Tank Davis who already got a wide vision towards his goal and not intending to give his first defeat over Ryan Garcia where he got most of the advantage.

[bbc.reporter]

It appears that Oscar dela Hoya is showing his real agenda for this fight. It is not money, he wants a trilogy of fights between Tank and King Ry to collect the most money hehehe. This is something similar to Dan Larimer's ICO for EOS where the ICO was collecting money from the community for 1 year and became the largest ICO to have a token sale with $4 billion collected hehehehe.



“This is the best fighting the best, and I strongly feel that when you have a performance where you shine, where you look good, and you fight with passion, fight hard, there is no loser, there’s no loss.

“I see this fight as an even fight. Obviously, my boy Ryan Garcia is going to win, but I can see a trilogy taking place. It’s that type of fight because both guys are undefeated, both guys are young, and both guys are passionate about what they do. Both guys have a huge fan base. This is a trilogy.

Source https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/de-la-hoya-gives-update-on-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-contract-issues/

I guess it's no secret though that he is after for the money with his current cash cow and that's why he is hurt when Canelo separate with him. And he even says that he wanted to fight Canelo, for what? yeah, it's all for the money.

Let's see though if a trilogy is needed, the fight should be close in the first one before we says that a rematch should take place. Otherwise it might not sit well with boxing fans if they will just have a rematch, also what is the story line in the rematch?

With the quality of fighters they are, I think it's alright to give them a trilogy, but that would not happen if one boxer beat the other 2 times in a row. Anyway, if this will be a close fight and no knock down, it would be easy to manipulate the result to give them a 1-1 to make that trilogy happen.

However, there are only 2 ways for this to be made possible. The first one is Ryan Garcia should get a victory on Tank Davis and the second one is if Ryan Garcia can make the fight very competitive even if he will lose and where he can make it end with a decision. But if the fight ends with a knockout and we witness King Ry being carried on a stretcher out of the ring, we can be quite certain that there will be no immediate rematch hehehehe.

[carlisle1]

Ticket sales on this fight is guaranteed as they are champions and both are popular. We don't see big fight like this all the time, that's why fans are surely willing to spend money just to watch this fight whether in the venue or through PPV. They can continue throwing words against each other now as it will continue increase the value of this fight and that would help to sold out the tickets and PPV subscription.

This fight is three years in the making but for one reason to another it never happen, but now that the two fighters show eagerness
that they want to clash this year, and both promoters agreed to make this fight happen, it could not happen if Gervonta did not get out of Mayweather's promotion, because Mayweather clearly stated that they want all his fighters to fight in the house or under the same promotion, so they can protect his cash cow and make money.
Everything on Mayweather promotions are all about making money not for legacy.

For sure, I reckon that the PPV tickets could be in the $79.99 range and then the live gates, ohh, could be well in the thousands if you want to get a better look at the fight. Nevertheless, even if we are in the worst economy, for sure boxing fans are going to shell out huge money for this fight, just to witness to young lions in the ring with so much hate against each other.

And probably either is guaranteed a purse of 8 digit figures minimum + PPV sales and live gates.

The actual amount of possible profits might go that high, as like what you said, these two ell-known fighters will be inside the ring
and will showcase their individual skills to beat one another.

Fans are surely be excited watching them throwing not just words but solid combinations to KO one another.

It will be tough for both ends to prove who's better. It will going to depend on how prepared the fighter will be.

[Kemarit]

Ticket sales on this fight is guaranteed as they are champions and both are popular. We don't see big fight like this all the time, that's why fans are surely willing to spend money just to watch this fight whether in the venue or through PPV. They can continue throwing words against each other now as it will continue increase the value of this fight and that would help to sold out the tickets and PPV subscription.

This fight is three years in the making but for one reason to another it never happen, but now that the two fighters show eagerness
that they want to clash this year, and both promoters agreed to make this fight happen, it could not happen if Gervonta did not get out of Mayweather's promotion, because Mayweather clearly stated that they want all his fighters to fight in the house or under the same promotion, so they can protect his cash cow and make money.
Everything on Mayweather promotions are all about making money not for legacy.

For sure, I reckon that the PPV tickets could be in the $79.99 range and then the live gates, ohh, could be well in the thousands if you want to get a better look at the fight. Nevertheless, even if we are in the worst economy, for sure boxing fans are going to shell out huge money for this fight, just to witness to young lions in the ring with so much hate against each other.

And probably either is guaranteed a purse of 8 digit figures minimum + PPV sales and live gates.

The actual amount of possible profits might go that high, as like what you said, these two ell-known fighters will be inside the ring
and will showcase their individual skills to beat one another.

Fans are surely be excited watching them throwing not just words but solid combinations to KO one another.

It will be tough for both ends to prove who's better. It will going to depend on how prepared the fighter will be.

Yes, preparation will be the key, Davis has his tune up fight, but Ryan Garcia decided to forgo of his own tune up against Gesta. So we will have to see who make the better strategy and preparation, the one with the tune up fight or the one who didn't.

And the only way to prove who's better is to face each other in the ring, that's it.

The money is really going to flow in this fight and could be one of the biggest for the year.

[Russlenat]

The money is really going to flow in this fight and could be one of the biggest for the year.

That's expected because it's an anticipated fight, I mean, fans are waiting for a fight that are both champions and are almost equal in skills. So this fight is one of those, although Davis is a slight favorite but that does not change the fact that we have divided fans here, which means the fight is really exciting to watch.

A trilogy would be fine though as long it will always result to a close fight.

[Jating]

The money is really going to flow in this fight and could be one of the biggest for the year.

That's expected because it's an anticipated fight, I mean, fans are waiting for a fight that are both champions and are almost equal in skills. So this fight is one of those, although Davis is a slight favorite but that does not change the fact that we have divided fans here, which means the fight is really exciting to watch.

Just a correction though, neither holds any belt at 135 lbs as it was being held by Devin Haney who will have a fight with Loma.

So this is just for all the glory and respect and the money for both boxers. They have been calling each other out because they know that this fight is going to be huge, money wise.

A trilogy would be fine though as long it will always result to a close fight.

Yes, even a rematch though, not necessarily a trilogy, this fight should be close enough to declare that a second fight is needed.

[btc_angela]

But let's see first what the first fight will bring, maybe it could be just one sided and end in less than 10 rounds and someone getting his ass knock out for good that he doesn't want to have a rematch.

In that case then there's no trilogy anymore, maybe a rematch but I'm sure it will have the same outcome since the first fight was already obvious it's just a one-sided fight. If they'll make a controversial decision in the first fight like what happened to Wilder vs Fury fight where the first fight was declared as a draw, then there are still 2 fights where Fury has dominated the KO artist.

A rematch could happen if the fight is close, yes draw could be the best outcome for a rematch. Or even a close score in the card of the judges. And then the public sees otherwise, not agreeing with how the judges see the fight.

That's why I said that we will have to see first the outcome because the rematch close might say that it can only be activated by the loser if the result is very close or something to that effect.

[Botnake]

But let's see first what the first fight will bring, maybe it could be just one sided and end in less than 10 rounds and someone getting his ass knock out for good that he doesn't want to have a rematch.

In that case then there's no trilogy anymore, maybe a rematch but I'm sure it will have the same outcome since the first fight was already obvious it's just a one-sided fight. If they'll make a controversial decision in the first fight like what happened to Wilder vs Fury fight where the first fight was declared as a draw, then there are still 2 fights where Fury has dominated the KO artist.

That would be the nearest scenario for them to make the trilogy into a reality, that is if there will be a draw in their first bout but that's highly unlikely considering that both of them is a knockout artist and neither one of them is also willing to make the fight draw or take a defeat, by the looks of it, Ryan Garcia especially Tank Davis wanted a one-sided fight so that they can move-on towards other boxers.

[Baofeng]

But let's see first what the first fight will bring, maybe it could be just one sided and end in less than 10 rounds and someone getting his ass knock out for good that he doesn't want to have a rematch.

In that case then there's no trilogy anymore, maybe a rematch but I'm sure it will have the same outcome since the first fight was already obvious it's just a one-sided fight. If they'll make a controversial decision in the first fight like what happened to Wilder vs Fury fight where the first fight was declared as a draw, then there are still 2 fights where Fury has dominated the KO artist.

That would be the nearest scenario for them to make the trilogy into a reality, that is if there will be a draw in their first bout but that's highly unlikely considering that both of them is a knockout artist and neither one of them is also willing to make the fight draw or take a defeat, by the looks of it, Ryan Garcia especially Tank Davis wanted a one-sided fight so that they can move-on towards other boxers.

Both wanted a one side beating, so that it will be over and the winner gets the respect and the bragging rights. But who knows, if they move to 140 lbs maybe they will have to fight again in the future. They are still very young and maybe 5+ years still in their career so a lot of things can happen.

And with that youth on their side, I agree that we might not need a rematch after all. They will go at it, and try to score a knock out win. With that, majority of us knows that this might not last 12 rounds.

[Vaculin]

But let's see first what the first fight will bring, maybe it could be just one sided and end in less than 10 rounds and someone getting his ass knock out for good that he doesn't want to have a rematch.

In that case then there's no trilogy anymore, maybe a rematch but I'm sure it will have the same outcome since the first fight was already obvious it's just a one-sided fight. If they'll make a controversial decision in the first fight like what happened to Wilder vs Fury fight where the first fight was declared as a draw, then there are still 2 fights where Fury has dominated the KO artist.

That would be the nearest scenario for them to make the trilogy into a reality, that is if there will be a draw in their first bout but that's highly unlikely considering that both of them is a knockout artist and neither one of them is also willing to make the fight draw or take a defeat, by the looks of it, Ryan Garcia especially Tank Davis wanted a one-sided fight so that they can move-on towards other boxers.

Both wanted a one side beating, so that it will be over and the winner gets the respect and the bragging rights. But who knows, if they move to 140 lbs maybe they will have to fight again in the future. They are still very young and maybe 5+ years still in their career so a lot of things can happen.

And with that youth on their side, I agree that we might not need a rematch after all. They will go at it, and try to score a knock out win. With that, majority of us knows that this might not last 12 rounds.

BGP is quite wise for thinking that this could be another trilogy in the history that will collect hundreds of millions of revenues combined, but he shouldn't forget that the boxers involved in this bout are still young enough for this trilogy. What they need is a good beating to keep their names floating in hype and their values will increased as well. And I agree, this will not last long enough.

[BitcoinPanther]

BGP is quite wise for thinking that this could be another trilogy in the history that will collect hundreds of millions of revenues combined, but he shouldn't forget that the boxers involved in this bout are still young enough for this trilogy. What they need is a good beating to keep their names floating in hype and their values will increased as well. And I agree, this will not last long enough.

As far as I know trilogy might happen when..

1. A rematch clause is written on the contract
2. The fight is close enough that resulted in a draw
3. The fight is close enough that the decision becomes a controversy since the loser's fans thinks that their boxer should have won.
4. The first fight sold out which gives huge income to the industry.
5. The fans can't get enough of the action.

Among these I think point 1 and 4 would likely trigger a rematch that can lead to a trilogy.

[Kelvinid]

4. The first fight sold out which gives huge income to the industry.

A rematch clause is legal, it's in the contract but I don't think it will have a condition that a fight has to be sold out in order to have a rematch. in the first place, they don't know the outcome of the first match in terms of revenue before that rematch clause in the contract is signed.

[coin-investor]

4. The first fight sold out which gives huge income to the industry.

A rematch clause is legal, it's in the contract but I don't think it will have a condition that a fight has to be sold out in order to have a rematch. in the first place, they don't know the outcome of the first match in terms of revenue before that rematch clause in the contract is signed.

I agree the revenue has nothing to do with a rematch there is a rematch that is not considered a blockbuster and sometimes they become a co-main event or support the event, even if the match is dominated by a challenger the former champion can opt for a rematch if there is a rematch in the contract.
Whether one fighter was knocked out by the other fighter as long as the rematch is in the contract, and the other party triggers a rematch it should happen.

[Distinctin]

4. The first fight sold out which gives huge income to the industry.

A rematch clause is legal, it's in the contract but I don't think it will have a condition that a fight has to be sold out in order to have a rematch. in the first place, they don't know the outcome of the first match in terms of revenue before that rematch clause in the contract is signed.

I agree the revenue has nothing to do with a rematch there is a rematch that is not considered a blockbuster and sometimes they become a co-main event or support the event, even if the match is dominated by a challenger the former champion can opt for a rematch if there is a rematch in the contract.
Whether one fighter was knocked out by the other fighter as long as the rematch is in the contract, and the other party triggers a rematch it should happen.

No need to worry about the revenue as before this fight was finalized, we already knew that Tank Davis vs Ryan Garcia fights will be a sold-out fight. Who would not watch this fight, these two are champions and very popular now, they will miss half of their lives if they will not watch this. If there's a rematch clause, both fighters are required to fight as promoters could sue them if they will mess out with the contract.

[TimeTeller]

4. The first fight sold out which gives huge income to the industry.

A rematch clause is legal, it's in the contract but I don't think it will have a condition that a fight has to be sold out in order to have a rematch. in the first place, they don't know the outcome of the first match in terms of revenue before that rematch clause in the contract is signed.

I agree the revenue has nothing to do with a rematch there is a rematch that is not considered a blockbuster and sometimes they become a co-main event or support the event, even if the match is dominated by a challenger the former champion can opt for a rematch if there is a rematch in the contract.
Whether one fighter was knocked out by the other fighter as long as the rematch is in the contract, and the other party triggers a rematch it should happen.

No need to worry about the revenue as before this fight was finalized, we already knew that Tank Davis vs Ryan Garcia fights will be a sold-out fight. Who would not watch this fight, these two are champions and very popular now, they will miss half of their lives if they will not watch this. If there's a rematch clause, both fighters are required to fight as promoters could sue them if they will mess out with the contract.

As of now, bookies are favoring Davis to win this fight.
I have the feeling that Davis will indeed beat Garcia on this one.
If Garcia has proceeded his tune-up fight, he should have known his level of preparation.
But anyway, that's his stand so let us see if he has a good chance on Davis.
Both names are popular among the boxing fans so no wonder this is a sold-out event.

[LogitechMouse]

As of now, bookies are favoring Davis to win this fight.
I have the feeling that Davis will indeed beat Garcia on this one.
If Garcia has proceeded his tune-up fight, he should have known his level of preparation.
But anyway, that's his stand so let us see if he has a good chance on Davis.
Both names are popular among the boxing fans so no wonder this is a sold-out event.

A counter puncher against a counter puncher.
Garcia has the height and reach advantage, but it's useless against a counter puncher and a sneaky Tank Davis.

Too many fights to wait this year. Tank Davis vs. Garcia, Crawford Vs. Spence, Fury Vs. Usyk and maybe Bivol Vs. Beterbiev (if it happens). For sure many boxing fans around the world will be happy and they'll spend just to watch these "fight of the year" or even "fight of the decade" candidate fights.

As for this fight, I'm also rooting on Davis on this one, but it's anybody's fight. One wrong move on either one of them can be their end. Both of them are good counter punchers so it's hard to know who will win on this one. Both has a high KO rate as well. Can we see Garcia utilizing his reach advantage here and will throw more jabs? 

[bittraffic]

Can we see Garcia utilizing his reach advantage here and will throw more jabs? 

Maybe. That's one way for him to win by just keeping his jabs and opening the defense of Tank. This is where Ryan's fast hand can quickly get to him but like you said it's just one hit that can make a difference. A boxer like Tank however can close the gap and throw one blow also.
Both of them are ferocious.

I have been watching podcast and prediction and mostly favors Tank they were saying because the mental pressure is on Ryan.

[Baofeng]

And this is what Oscar says recently,

“I’m going to say one hundred percent,” De La Hoya stated of his belief that Davis-Garcia makes its way to the boxing calendar sooner rather than later.”

“We sent the contract back. We made the changes,” noted De La Hoya. “We’re just waiting back for an answer but I feel very optimistic the it’s going to happen.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-one-hundred-percent-certain-on-delivering-davis-garcia--172142

Let's assume that this fight is really going to happened and delivered April-May to us. And hopefully once everything is good, either Oscar or PBC will have to announce to the public.

@bittraffic - yeah, most of the predictions point to Tank, but this is going to be a good fight for sure, whoever wins could be moving to 140 lbs though.

[BitcoinPanther]

4. The first fight sold out which gives huge income to the industry.

A rematch clause is legal, it's in the contract but I don't think it will have a condition that a fight has to be sold out in order to have a rematch. in the first place, they don't know the outcome of the first match in terms of revenue before that rematch clause in the contract is signed.

It is business so when a fight sold out, the industry will definitely see that fans loves the match so they will see for the possible chance of a rematch.  It may not be the condition but it is rational for a business to do what made them a huge profit thus, a rematch to trilogy might happen.  That is one of the condition that might trigger a possible rematch or a trilogy, there is no way I say that it is the requirement.

Can we see Garcia utilizing his reach advantage here and will throw more jabs? 

Ryan Garcia had been boasting about his size and reach, so it is very likely to see him using his reach advantage against Davis, utilizing jabs and straight.