[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023)

[Fredomago]

Well, I guess that is already expected that anyone on Ryan Garcia's camp will not give any specific details about their preparation as that will spoil the opposite camp and give them an advantage if a specific detail will leak. But I sure do hope that Ryan Garcia's more swifty now because Goosen has said that for years already that they were training Ryan to be more agile but that's not what we saw in his recent fights. He's still open and easy to read by experienced boxer, like Davis.

Garcia badly needs that good lateral movement in the ring, because I'm sure Tank will find a way to land his punches on the sweet spot which is Ryan's chin, Tank has a sound defense he has good footwork, and know how to counter punches.
It's going to be a battle of who can land first but no way this fight will end in a decision, both fighters will want to knock their opponent out, there's no slugfest that's going to happen, and will wait for each other to make a mistake.
I have this feeling that this fight ould become a candidate for a fight of the year.

If Garcia will stay on that same fighting style which I hope he won't as you mentioned Davis is a good experienced fighter who can read his opponent's footworks, if Garcia will show that same level of fighting strategy Davis will easily counter him and a big possibility of land a solid punches and maybe will bring Garcia down.

We can only say if there're changes in Garcia's lateral once we see him fighting, that adjustment can help him a lot to surprise Davis.

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[serjent05]

Well, I guess that is already expected that anyone on Ryan Garcia's camp will not give any specific details about their preparation as that will spoil the opposite camp and give them an advantage if a specific detail will leak. But I sure do hope that Ryan Garcia's more swifty now because Goosen has said that for years already that they were training Ryan to be more agile but that's not what we saw in his recent fights. He's still open and easy to read by experienced boxer, like Davis.

Garcia badly needs that good lateral movement in the ring, because I'm sure Tank will find a way to land his punches on the sweet spot which is Ryan's chin, Tank has a sound defense he has good footwork, and know how to counter punches.

Yeah, Garcia needs lateral movement paired with job and straight punches to keep distance and make Davis at bay.  We all know Garcia has huge reach advantage, doing such kind of performance and strategy would increase his chance of winning.

It's going to be a battle of who can land first but no way this fight will end in a decision, both fighters will want to knock their opponent out, there's no slugfest that's going to happen, and will wait for each other to make a mistake.
I have this feeling that this fight ould become a candidate for a fight of the year.

I also think that the fight will end in a KO.  Who will kiss the canvass is unknown though because, both of them are capable of knocking their opponent.  So yeah, the fight is about a matter of who hits clean first.

[yazher]

we can only assess the fight after this is over. so we can't judge garcia this early on how he will perform inside the ring. since he is being challenged by davis, he may still have something under his sleeves and let's see if those will come out inside the ring.
garcia knows he is the underdog on this fight. so he may surprise us during the fight.

With him getting this huge challenge such as this one, it's really obvious that he is practicing a counterattack that will gonna successfully land on Davis and that's the thing I really wanted to see from him. We may not gonna see this fight reaching the last rounds since both are known to be huge power punchers and can actually surprise us with their unique techniques to win this fight. I hope it will be turned out just how we thought would be and surely it will have a second fight if they can give each other a hard time. Maybe Garcia is the underdog in this fight but we cannot be sure if he is still one if they have a rematch.

[Ziskinberg]

Maybe Garcia is the underdog in this fight but we cannot be sure if he is still one if they have a rematch.

If he wins the first fight convincingly, he will not be considered an underdog. It doesn't make sense to list him as an underdog if he clearly wins the first fight. Bettors would have a better chance to make money with more attractive betting odds.

However, the question now is whether he can beat Tank Davis, who is a very smart fighter.

[Hypnosis00]

Maybe Garcia is the underdog in this fight but we cannot be sure if he is still one if they have a rematch.

If he wins the first fight convincingly, he will not be considered an underdog. It doesn't make sense to list him as an underdog if he clearly wins the first fight. Bettors would have a better chance to make money with more attractive betting odds.

However, the question now is whether he can beat Tank Davis, who is a very smart fighter.

We never know, but your point is valid. Right now, the odds are based on the bookies' evaluation of their previous fights. Since Davis has more convincing wins and is the better fighter based on many aspects, he is now listed as the heavy favorite. However, that could change in a rematch if there is one. If there is a rematch, that means Garcia would win, as Davis doesn't give rematches if he wins this fight.

[OgNasty]

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight.  I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are.  I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out.  After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia.  I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse.  Seems like Tank needs to humbling. 

[Fredomago]

Maybe Garcia is the underdog in this fight but we cannot be sure if he is still one if they have a rematch.

If he wins the first fight convincingly, he will not be considered an underdog. It doesn't make sense to list him as an underdog if he clearly wins the first fight. Bettors would have a better chance to make money with more attractive betting odds.

However, the question now is whether he can beat Tank Davis, who is a very smart fighter.

We never know, but your point is valid. Right now, the odds are based on the bookies' evaluation of their previous fights. Since Davis has more convincing wins and is the better fighter based on many aspects, he is now listed as the heavy favorite. However, that could change in a rematch if there is one. If there is a rematch, that means Garcia would win, as Davis doesn't give rematches if he wins this fight.

It might happen as pay to respect for the winning side but I also think that if ever that there's a rematch and if the flow of bets would be sided to Tank there might be some changes from bookies, especially if the win is questionable in the first matchup, there's also possibilities that Davis may still get the side from the bookies.

Let's talk about that after we witness the first matchup, then we will see after that if what will happen next.

[danherbias07]

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight.  I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are.  I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out.  After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia.  I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse.  Seems like Tank needs to humbling. 

At first thought, I am the same as Ryan Garcia was saying here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLqpTCe2LkU
"The Purse" the one that Tank Davis brought during the press conference.  Hilarious. Maybe that's what Tank Davis thought, that purse only and not the whole money that will be given in the fight. But Garcia has a different idea, all or nothing.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tank-garcia-agree-bet-entire-fight-purse-during-instagram-live-session--173952

“Have Al [Haymon, Davis’s adviser] write up the contract,” Davis insisted to an undisclosed team member. “Whoever win get the other fighter’s purse. I’m dead serious. We on the Live right now. We’re betting the whole purse.”

Why the challenge? Simply because Garcia is not getting much money out of this fight. It may be a marketing strategy or he is deadly serious that he wants the part that Davis will earn from this fight.
Around $2.5M will be received by Garcia and $5M for Davis. Well, if I were Davis I may not agree with it. Plus, he does have the upper hand for a rematch while Garcia doesn't have that leverage. But the ego will always win. Let's see if the contract will materialize or if this is all just social media talk to boost their PPV subscribers and get more money.
Who video calls their opponent when the fight is near? It's kind of Brokeback Mountain.

[bbc.reporter]

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight.  I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are.  I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out.  After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia.  I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse.  Seems like Tank needs to humbling. 

They should do it! It will make the fight more exciting and it will be very similar to Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury where the winner takes everything, the loser only has bruises and hospital bills hehehe!

We are on the date of April 19 already! Only 3 more days! I am very excited! I also wish the announcement for Crawford vs. Spence is not an April Fools joke!

[Botnake]

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight.  I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are.  I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out.  After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia.  I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse.  Seems like Tank needs to humbling. 

They should do it! It will make the fight more exciting and it will be very similar to Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury where the winner takes everything, the loser only has bruises and hospital bills hehehe!

We are on the date of April 19 already! Only 3 more days! I am very excited! I also wish the announcement for Crawford vs. Spence is not an April Fools joke!

We will find out if Crawford vs. Spence will actually happen this time. If it was just an April Fools joke, it doesn't matter. What matters is that we will see the big fight between Garcia and Davis. I'm pretty sure people won't be bored and they will be glued to their seats for the entire fight as every round could be explosive.

[Hypnosis00]

I'm pretty sure people won't be bored and they will be glued to their seats for the entire fight as every round could be explosive.

However, they might be disappointed as this fight could end very quickly, possibly within the first three rounds if both fighters start aggressively, since we know they are both capable of knocking each other out. This is a championship fight between two undefeated boxers, so it's unlikely to be a one-sided beatdown, even though Tank Davis is heavily favored.

[btc_angela]

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight.  I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are.  I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out.  After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia.  I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse.  Seems like Tank needs to humbling. 

They should do it! It will make the fight more exciting and it will be very similar to Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury where the winner takes everything, the loser only has bruises and hospital bills hehehe!

We are on the date of April 19 already! Only 3 more days! I am very excited! I also wish the announcement for Crawford vs. Spence is not an April Fools joke!

And they also went into the media tonight to promote the fight even more, Ryan Garcia with Oscar and then head trainer Goosen, and we also have Tank with Leonard Ellerbe.

No announcement yet of the Crawford vs. Spence, I thought someone will spill the beans, but we will have to wait till the fight night itself.

For the crowds, it's huge lots of reporters not just from the US but from other parts of the world too covering this big fight.

[Kelvinid]

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight.  I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are.  I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out.  After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia.  I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse.  Seems like Tank needs to humbling. 

They should do it! It will make the fight more exciting and it will be very similar to Jake Paul vs. Tommy Fury where the winner takes everything, the loser only has bruises and hospital bills hehehe!

We are on the date of April 19 already! Only 3 more days! I am very excited! I also wish the announcement for Crawford vs. Spence is not an April Fools joke!

And they also went into the media tonight to promote the fight even more, Ryan Garcia with Oscar and then head trainer Goosen, and we also have Tank with Leonard Ellerbe.

No announcement yet of the Crawford vs. Spence, I thought someone will spill the beans, but we will have to wait till the fight night itself.

For the crowds, it's huge lots of reporters not just from the US but from other parts of the world too covering this big fight.

This is definitely a big fight, and the winner will surely become more popular all over the world. This is the first big fight that has happened this year, so all attention is on them. I hope both boxers are already 100% ready for the fight. They cannot just focus on hyping the fight, but also need to ensure that they are fully prepared.

And by the way, don't forget to place your bets already.

[carlisle1]

I'm pretty sure people won't be bored and they will be glued to their seats for the entire fight as every round could be explosive.

However, they might be disappointed as this fight could end very quickly, possibly within the first three rounds if both fighters start aggressively, since we know they are both capable of knocking each other out. This is a championship fight between two undefeated boxers, so it's unlikely to be a one-sided beatdown, even though Tank Davis is heavily favored.

It might end that way if both will show their aggressiveness and will try to box one another, it can end up in the early rounds.

But for me, I like it that way if both will start strong and aggressive, meaning to say that they both take one another as serious as it should be.

A good respect and a good way of showing one another that they are not afraid and they want to bring them down.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yes, if you are rooting for Garcia you won't be having a hard time looking for great odds. You can go ahead and be safe betting moneyline. 2.80 is already a very good odds for Garcia. And if you think Garcia's power can knock Davis out, the odds are even better.

Assuming Garcia will walk inside the ring just like the confident and strong fighter that he was, then he has real chances of beating Davis. We've also seen Garcia not easily affected by a knockdown in the past. So he's probably not to be easily finished should Davis knock him down.

Here is something very clear, most of all will go to bet in favor of Haney and it is not bad, I have seen in many places including boxing forums that they give Haney the winner, and they see García as the weakest, I I don't see it that way, for me García is one of the best boxers out there, but as I said, and I don't know if anyone thinks like me, or at least someone who has been a boxer knows very well that when training is very intense they can achieve very good Results, you can even achieve a victory that seems impossible.

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[Japinat]

Tank shaming Garcia into accepting his offer to bet the purse on the fight is one of those things where I have to wonder if they are just doing it to try and get some more eyes on the fight.  I don't think either would actually bet their entire purse on the outcome of the fight no matter how confident they are.  I guess we'll have to wait and see if they sign the contracts, but I don't think any "bet" like this has ever actually played out.  After seeing the clip though, I'm firmly on team Garcia.  I hope he knocks out Tank and gets his purse.  Seems like Tank needs to humbling. 

At first thought, I am the same as Ryan Garcia was saying here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLqpTCe2LkU
"The Purse" the one that Tank Davis brought during the press conference.  Hilarious. Maybe that's what Tank Davis thought, that purse only and not the whole money that will be given in the fight. But Garcia has a different idea, all or nothing.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tank-garcia-agree-bet-entire-fight-purse-during-instagram-live-session--173952

“Have Al [Haymon, Davis’s adviser] write up the contract,” Davis insisted to an undisclosed team member. “Whoever win get the other fighter’s purse. I’m dead serious. We on the Live right now. We’re betting the whole purse.”

Why the challenge? Simply because Garcia is not getting much money out of this fight. It may be a marketing strategy or he is deadly serious that he wants the part that Davis will earn from this fight.
Around $2.5M will be received by Garcia and $5M for Davis. Well, if I were Davis I may not agree with it. Plus, he does have the upper hand for a rematch while Garcia doesn't have that leverage. But the ego will always win. Let's see if the contract will materialize or if this is all just social media talk to boost their PPV subscribers and get more money.
Who video calls their opponent when the fight is near? It's kind of Brokeback Mountain.

They might dead serious about it and by the looks of it, Tank Davis wasn't expecting either that Ryan Garcia will agree to bet the entire purse which explained their reactions. At first, I thought that this is just a marketing and to make hype their fight even more because all that bet was made through a live video feed and I actually don't believe that they will actually do it but it gets more serious when Tank called Al Haymon to make a contract about their sudden deal.

Well, let's wait for the both of them to officially sign the deal because this also happened between Jake Paul and Tommy Fury but afterwards, the latter didn't signed the contract which opposes every word he said that he's actually serious about it. Anyway, what I'm saying is that it might happen again this time.

[stadus]

I'm pretty sure people won't be bored and they will be glued to their seats for the entire fight as every round could be explosive.

However, they might be disappointed as this fight could end very quickly, possibly within the first three rounds if both fighters start aggressively, since we know they are both capable of knocking each other out. This is a championship fight between two undefeated boxers, so it's unlikely to be a one-sided beatdown, even though Tank Davis is heavily favored.

It might end that way if both will show their aggressiveness and will try to box one another, it can end up in the early rounds.

But for me, I like it that way if both will start strong and aggressive, meaning to say that they both take one another as serious as it should be.

A good respect and a good way of showing one another that they are not afraid and they want to bring them down.

I believe Ryan Garcia won't settle for a toe-to-toe fight because he will be in the disadvantage side as we already know that his chin is not that sturdy enough to to receive powerful blows especially from Tank Davis who is also a KO artisan. It will be wise enough for both camps mainly Ryan Garcia to wait for an error before he gives a counter as he will likely make some mistakes if he will be the aggressor.

[Kemarit]

I'm pretty sure people won't be bored and they will be glued to their seats for the entire fight as every round could be explosive.

However, they might be disappointed as this fight could end very quickly, possibly within the first three rounds if both fighters start aggressively, since we know they are both capable of knocking each other out. This is a championship fight between two undefeated boxers, so it's unlikely to be a one-sided beatdown, even though Tank Davis is heavily favored.

It might end that way if both will show their aggressiveness and will try to box one another, it can end up in the early rounds.

But for me, I like it that way if both will start strong and aggressive, meaning to say that they both take one another as serious as it should be.

A good respect and a good way of showing one another that they are not afraid and they want to bring them down.

I believe Ryan Garcia won't settle for a toe-to-toe fight because he will be in the disadvantage side as we already know that his chin is not that sturdy enough to to receive powerful blows especially from Tank Davis who is also a KO artisan. It will be wise enough for both camps mainly Ryan Garcia to wait for an error before he gives a counter as he will likely make some mistakes if he will be the aggressor.

In the press conference, Goosen says that they have a strategy A and strategy B, so we don't know what it is until the fight itself. It could be Ryan going toe to toe and be the aggressor because of his height, or laid back and try to wait for Davis to make that one mistake that will give him the opportunity to counter with his left hook.

So really hard to see, a lot of scenario's can play into this fight and it's like going to be a chess match between this two young fighters. Both are very confident that this fight is not going to distance though, meaning someone is going to sleep.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I'm pretty sure people won't be bored and they will be glued to their seats for the entire fight as every round could be explosive.

However, they might be disappointed as this fight could end very quickly, possibly within the first three rounds if both fighters start aggressively, since we know they are both capable of knocking each other out. This is a championship fight between two undefeated boxers, so it's unlikely to be a one-sided beatdown, even though Tank Davis is heavily favored.

It might end that way if both will show their aggressiveness and will try to box one another, it can end up in the early rounds.

But for me, I like it that way if both will start strong and aggressive, meaning to say that they both take one another as serious as it should be.

A good respect and a good way of showing one another that they are not afraid and they want to bring them down.

I believe Ryan Garcia won't settle for a toe-to-toe fight because he will be in the disadvantage side as we already know that his chin is not that sturdy enough to to receive powerful blows especially from Tank Davis who is also a KO artisan. It will be wise enough for both camps mainly Ryan Garcia to wait for an error before he gives a counter as he will likely make some mistakes if he will be the aggressor.

In the press conference, Goosen says that they have a strategy A and strategy B, so we don't know what it is until the fight itself. It could be Ryan going toe to toe and be the aggressor because of his height, or laid back and try to wait for Davis to make that one mistake that will give him the opportunity to counter with his left hook.

So really hard to see, a lot of scenario's can play into this fight and it's like going to be a chess match between this two young fighters. Both are very confident that this fight is not going to distance though, meaning someone is going to sleep.

Oscar Dela Hoya firing the first shot and asking if Tank is really that confident to win this fight because he has asked for a catch weight and then the rehydration clause and he says that Ryan is not a diva so they give in to all his request here. Oscar though might have forgotten the rematch clause as another sticking point.

Nevertheless it seems that Oscar is just goating the camp of Tank because the response of Ellerbe and Calvin Murphy is straight to the point. And both saying that they are going to knock each other out and so this is a must watch for all of us and for sure some of us already put a bet.

[btc_angela]

I'm pretty sure people won't be bored and they will be glued to their seats for the entire fight as every round could be explosive.

However, they might be disappointed as this fight could end very quickly, possibly within the first three rounds if both fighters start aggressively, since we know they are both capable of knocking each other out. This is a championship fight between two undefeated boxers, so it's unlikely to be a one-sided beatdown, even though Tank Davis is heavily favored.

It might end that way if both will show their aggressiveness and will try to box one another, it can end up in the early rounds.

But for me, I like it that way if both will start strong and aggressive, meaning to say that they both take one another as serious as it should be.

A good respect and a good way of showing one another that they are not afraid and they want to bring them down.

I believe Ryan Garcia won't settle for a toe-to-toe fight because he will be in the disadvantage side as we already know that his chin is not that sturdy enough to to receive powerful blows especially from Tank Davis who is also a KO artisan. It will be wise enough for both camps mainly Ryan Garcia to wait for an error before he gives a counter as he will likely make some mistakes if he will be the aggressor.

In the press conference, Goosen says that they have a strategy A and strategy B, so we don't know what it is until the fight itself. It could be Ryan going toe to toe and be the aggressor because of his height, or laid back and try to wait for Davis to make that one mistake that will give him the opportunity to counter with his left hook.

So really hard to see, a lot of scenario's can play into this fight and it's like going to be a chess match between this two young fighters. Both are very confident that this fight is not going to distance though, meaning someone is going to sleep.

Oscar Dela Hoya firing the first shot and asking if Tank is really that confident to win this fight because he has asked for a catch weight and then the rehydration clause and he says that Ryan is not a diva so they give in to all his request here. Oscar though might have forgotten the rematch clause as another sticking point.

Nevertheless it seems that Oscar is just goating the camp of Tank because the response of Ellerbe and Calvin Murphy is straight to the point. And both saying that they are going to knock each other out and so this is a must watch for all of us and for sure some of us already put a bet.

Nah, it's very obvious that Oscar still wants to create the hype when there was just 1 day before the fight.

And as you have said, Elerbe was quick to dispell it and even attack Golden Boy, so it just back fired on them. It's only take notice that Ryan is saying that Tank looks drain? Not sure if this is true or if everyone notice it because I don't see it in Tank. That's how he is during the final press conference and then the actual weigh-in. So tomorrow we will see who is actually the weight drain between the two.