[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023)

[inthelongrun]

So congratulations to those with winning bets, especially Tank KO/TKO. What is next for KingRy? I feel that he might focus on his social media skills. He honestly mentioned some years ago that he is earning big amounts from it and is okay even if he was inactive in boxing. That is tempting indeed especially if you are already rich because boxing is not easy as you have to sacrifice a lot, especially during a training camp. This was probably the reason why Canelo and Eddie Reynoso kicked him out of their camp, both are gym rats. So I guess Ryan Garcia is done with boxing unless this defeat brings back the fire in him or if his pride won't allow him to get out of the sport after a KO loss.

As for Tank Davis. I wonder if he is now ready to fight for a title. He should stop cherry-picking his opponents because I would love to see him vie for a title for a chance to become a 2 division world champion. His mindset of being the face of boxing though might be an indication that he will continue to cherry-pick his next opponents.

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[Cryptmuster]

Indeed, it should be a good learning experience for Ryan Garcia and his camp.
Perhaps they should also learn to not accept a contract clause like another weigh-in before the fight. To avoid that, they might as well put Ryan Garcia in a higher weight class rather than forcing his body to be on the weight that they fought against Davis.
Being unable to rehydrate before the fight, is something that can affect the conditioning of their boxer. Davis' camp did a great job of including it in one of their demands but for Garcia, it is a big problem. Not gaining 10 pounds before the fight is not a joke. That means avoiding a lot of water and food just to stay at almost the same weight as their first weigh-in.
I like the fact though that Garcia didn't use that as a reason for his defeat. He owned it as his own mistake for not being a better boxer.

Garcia did not have enough experience for this fight, Tank turned out to be a rival of a slightly different level, and although Garcia had an advantage in anthropometry, he could not use it. He initiated the rapprochement with the opponent, but the length of the arms could allow to comfortably fight at a distance, and instead of exhausting the Tank throughout the battle, he approached. And he did it not very skillfully and missed strong blows.

The tank is a serious nakouter, it was necessary to remember this every second of the presence in the ring and in no case let him near. Perhaps overconfidence prevented Garcia from acting more calmly and prudently in the ring.

[Viscore]

Ryan is not ripe for this kind of fight,

He's ripe and we can see it to his record but Tank Davis is just so good for him. Davis exposed his weaknesses very well that's why he totally dominated him and got a huge victory on their fight.

losing by a technical knockout is not good for a superstar like him, he is good only for social media and still has a lot to learn in boxing.

One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

Despite of being a loser this time, I think Ryan Garcia should see it as more of a motivation that he should focus more on his craft by indulging himself into serious trainings that will improve his previous performance so that if ever he’ll be match again with other big names in the boxing industry, he will stay undefeated by that time. But I guess win or lose, the name Ryan Garcia still creates a huge impact in the boxing industry.

[Shamm]

Indeed, it should be a good learning experience for Ryan Garcia and his camp.
Perhaps they should also learn to not accept a contract clause like another weigh-in before the fight. To avoid that, they might as well put Ryan Garcia in a higher weight class rather than forcing his body to be on the weight that they fought against Davis.
Being unable to rehydrate before the fight, is something that can affect the conditioning of their boxer. Davis' camp did a great job of including it in one of their demands but for Garcia, it is a big problem. Not gaining 10 pounds before the fight is not a joke. That means avoiding a lot of water and food just to stay at almost the same weight as their first weigh-in.
I like the fact though that Garcia didn't use that as a reason for his defeat. He owned it as his own mistake for not being a better boxer.

Garcia did not have enough experience for this fight, Tank turned out to be a rival of a slightly different level, and although Garcia had an advantage in anthropometry, he could not use it. He initiated the rapprochement with the opponent, but the length of the arms could allow to comfortably fight at a distance, and instead of exhausting the Tank throughout the battle, he approached. And he did it not very skillfully and missed strong blows.

The tank is a serious nakouter, it was necessary to remember this every second of the presence in the ring and in no case let him near. Perhaps overconfidence prevented Garcia from acting more calmly and prudently in the ring.

Yes you are right that mate Garcia has the advantages with the long arm and height but As we can saw the fight he didn't use that advantages that's why Tank Davis can still break his defense and I am glad to see Davis fighting skills and technique.  That's why in the round 2 he got a open spot to knock down Garcia in early period of the game. And in the Round 7 super body shot by Davis that Garcia couldn't handle and that's why Davis will won the matchup between of them. Maybe Davis can ask a fight against the 8 division champ .

[Kemarit]

There were rumors that Ryan Garcia just quit on this fight, specially after that 2nd round knockout of his. But I'm looking at the replay of the body shot he got from Tank, and it seems legit, it has power behind that punch and his body was exposed, very vulnerable for a body shot.

And with that win, I shoot up Tank to be my #1 p4p list, followed by Naoya Inoue.

How about everyone? What do you think of Tank's performance here, are you with me ranking him the top p4p boxer right now?

[Yaunfitda]

One lose cannot break out his achievement also he's so young there's so many room for improvement so provably he will bounce back for this big defeat he encounter in the hands of Davis. That big lose is a huge wake up call for him that he need to improve more so that he can maintain his superstar status and also to defeat more big names in industry.

I agree Davis is too good for him, he was calling out for Gervonta all these years, while Davis is getting better he was opting not to do a tune-up fight he is in a hurry to fight Davis, Tank is still a superstar he just needs tough opponents he has been cherry picking opponents, only Campbell has a good record in his resume.

His next fight should not be cherry-picked, maybe he and Rolly Romero will be a good match even though I read they are friends, it could be a good comeback fight Pitbull Cruz is also a good challenge for Ryan, I just don't want Ryan do cherry picked fight.

Or maybe he should go up in weight at 140 lbs, I thought that he won't be looking drain at 135 lbs, but for me it seems to be case. But I do agree that there's nothing to be ashamed of losing to Tank, he acknowledge his lost already so maybe he will have to move on.

Ryan looks drained, Davis just tricked him into agreeing on the rehydration clause, lol.  We have seen a not 100% conditioned Ryan Garcia in this fight.  But still I do not think that the fight ending would change but we shouldn't have seen that 7th round KO via shot on the liver.  It was the same case when Manny Pacquiao[1] losses his title on the Thailander challenger when he wasn't able to make the weight and drained himself further but still didn't met the requirement and as the result he was KO'ed via body shot.


[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHj2P04ElEo

I very much agree! King Ry's punches were not very impactful when he hit Tank Davis and also that body punch would not have a big effect if Ryan was allowed to rehydrate more properly. Why should Tank Davis care how much Ryan Garcia weighs on the day of the fight? His team scammed Ryan and Ryan's team should be responsible enough to tell him not to sign the contract. However, for much of the people who watched it, they do not know and they will not care.

Well, Ryan Garcia and his camp knew this from the very beginning and later admitted that he doesn't have the legs in this fight but he sign the contract so let it be. But this kind of rehydration clause is bullshit. Tank obviously has all the advantage in this fight and it's hard for Ryan to win specially if you are not comfortable with the weight that you are supposed to be during fight night. He could rehydrate to 150 lbs and most likely be a equal and good fight. Anyone knows what the official weight of Davis prior to the fight? So that we can see as well how much he rehydrated? Anyway, Ryan already admitted defeat and said that most likely he will go up in weight next fight.

[bisdak40]

There were rumors that Ryan Garcia just quit on this fight, specially after that 2nd round knockout of his. But I'm looking at the replay of the body shot he got from Tank, and it seems legit, it has power behind that punch and his body was exposed, very vulnerable for a body shot.

And with that win, I shoot up Tank to be my #1 p4p list, followed by Naoya Inoue.

How about everyone? What do you think of Tank's performance here, are you with me ranking him the top p4p boxer right now?

That's a legit knockout there because that's some sort of expected, I mean when you cut your weight you are just vulnerable to body shots. That round 2 knockdown temporarily zaps out the confidence of Garcia and he fought a defensive fight after that but got careless again in rounds 6 and 7 and got aggressive which what was Davis is waiting for, him to commit mistakes and the rest is history  .

For me, that's a status quo, I mean he stays in the ranking wherever he is because that fight is not fought in a fair field. They took the only advantage of Garcia which is his size and nothing is left for him to brag about but still a good fight for Tank though.

If he could beat the winner of Haney vs Loma then I could say that he will go up in the rankings as that could be a legit fight for him or if he could beat Shakur Stevenson that I could say that he is a dog in the lightweight division.

[Road21Bitcoin]

Congratulations to Gervonta "Tank" Davis on winning against Ryan Garcia, that was a thrilling performance. I thought Tank would knock out Garcia instead he gave him a brutal body shot in the seventh round. And also, props to Ryan Garcia for his all out and aggressive performance. There is no need to feel shame for losing once, but make it your aspiration to continue your journey in boxing. I hope whoever wins the match between Daven Haney and Vasyl Lomachenko will face Davis. 

[livingfree]

It's exciting to watch fighters that have no loss as one will be guaranteed to get his first loss. Congratulations to Tank Davis. Despite the difference with their height, those solid punches has connected against Garcia.

That sudden fall on his knee on round 7, that was unexpected. Ryan was exhausted.

There were rumors that Ryan Garcia just quit on this fight, specially after that 2nd round knockout of his. But I'm looking at the replay of the body shot he got from Tank, and it seems legit, it has power behind that punch and his body was exposed, very vulnerable for a body shot.

And with that win, I shoot up Tank to be my #1 p4p list, followed by Naoya Inoue.

How about everyone? What do you think of Tank's performance here, are you with me ranking him the top p4p boxer right now?

That's a legit knockout there because that's some sort of expected, I mean when you cut your weight you are just vulnerable to body shots. That round 2 knockdown temporarily zaps out the confidence of Garcia and he fought a defensive fight after that but got careless again in rounds 6 and 7 and got aggressive which what was Davis is waiting for, him to commit mistakes and the rest is history  .

For me, that's a status quo, I mean he stays in the ranking wherever he is because that fight is not fought in a fair field. They took the only advantage of Garcia which is his size and nothing is left for him to brag about but still a good fight for Tank though.

If he could beat the winner of Haney vs Loma then I could say that he will go up in the rankings as that could be a legit fight for him or if he could beat Shakur Stevenson that I could say that he is a dog in the lightweight division.

Those that are saying that it's just a way for him to quit, I don't think that it will be taken by his pride. I'm sure that he's even going to say that was a solid hit and he really just felt when he fell.

Gervonta is still undefeated. Well done.

[freedomgo]

Ryan received clean shots while Davis simply dodges his attack. Davis made him look like a rookie.

Doesn't need a rematch, Ryan is definitely not the kind that can defeat Tank. I rooted for him actually with a small amount expecting 3x lol But when I saw he fell in the 2nd round, the difference in points favors for Tank to win which Ryan will be daunted.  He still keeps launching though until the body shot.

Well, he just literally a rookie in-front of Gervonta Davis. I don't know what's with Ryan Garcia for being stubborn on learning that movement and defense techniques because I don't actually believe that he was not given the chance to learn it as it could've help him from the fights he had because boxing is not all about offense, it's also about defense. You know, even the stronger guys are doing everything they can to improve their defense as well as their chances in the fight, but here's Ryan Garcia who doesn't really care on doing it just because he got a good hook.

[Maslate]

There were rumors that Ryan Garcia just quit on this fight, specially after that 2nd round knockout of his. But I'm looking at the replay of the body shot he got from Tank, and it seems legit, it has power behind that punch and his body was exposed, very vulnerable for a body shot.

And with that win, I shoot up Tank to be my #1 p4p list, followed by Naoya Inoue.

How about everyone? What do you think of Tank's performance here, are you with me ranking him the top p4p boxer right now?

Just like you said, it was just a rumor, it was clear as day that Ryan Garcia was confident on that fight because the result will determine whether he can move mountains to defeat the current undisputed at 135 which is Devin Haney. Because if ever he was successful on that fight, that will boost his career even more and I won't be surprised if the people will start on calling for the undisputed champion to fight Ryan Garcia.

But since that didn't happen, he will now start from scratch because that defeat he got made him look an amateur or even less than that. That Round 2 for me already defined the outcome of the fight because if Ryan Garcia can't give back the favor then it's already safe to say that Tank will win even if Garcia can survive the whole 12 rounds.

[serjent05]

There were rumors that Ryan Garcia just quit on this fight, specially after that 2nd round knockout of his. But I'm looking at the replay of the body shot he got from Tank, and it seems legit, it has power behind that punch and his body was exposed, very vulnerable for a body shot.

That 2nd round knockdown took away Ryan Garcia's confidence.  And the 7th round body shot took the breath away from Ryan Garcia.  If a fighter is underhydration, he is susceptible to body attack and the shot to the body seems not that strong but if the boxer can't stand it, it is an easy victory to he guy who landed the punch. 

How about everyone? What do you think of Tank's performance here, are you with me ranking him the top p4p boxer right now?

Well, I think Ryan Garcia look drained, he is not 100% conditioned on the fight.  You can see it on Ryan Garcia's face.  Tank Davis just got the better of Ryan Garcia because he fought a not 100% Ryan Garcia, he would possibly have a hard time beating the guy if Garcia is 100% rehydrated.

[jakelyson]

Despite of being a loser this time, I think Ryan Garcia should see it as more of a motivation that he should focus more on his craft by indulging himself into serious trainings that will improve his previous performance so that if ever he’ll be match again with other big names in the boxing industry, he will stay undefeated by that time. But I guess win or lose, the name Ryan Garcia still creates a huge impact in the boxing industry.

This is on him for getting cocky for thinking that Gervonta Davis is afraid of him, and for giving those catchweight and rehydration conditions that Tank Davis has come up with to weaken Ryan Garcia I think this could become a great lesson for Ryan Garcia but as you have said despite he lost to Gervonta Davis the name Ryan Garcia is still a big name in the industry of boxing, surely not the result he expected but Gervonta Davis truly has a fox-like personality, he is shrewd, sly and tricky to the core

Yes you are right that mate Garcia has the advantages with the long arm and height but As we can saw the fight he didn't use that advantages that's why Tank Davis can still break his defense and I am glad to see Davis fighting skills and technique.  That's why in the round 2 he got a open spot to knock down Garcia in early period of the game. And in the Round 7 super body shot by Davis that Garcia couldn't handle and that's why Davis will won the matchup between of them. Maybe Davis can ask a fight against the 8 division champ .

As I can see the fight Gervonta Davis surely showed his fight IQ, he is not really that aggressive but if given a chance he would surely take it, Ryan Garcia out of desperation is throwing those left hooks that he is so proud of out of thin air, and he threw that 4 times to Gervonta Davis, and Tank Davis has evaded them like nothing, and with the 1st knockdown of Ryan Garcia Davis doesn't become aggressive and still goes with his game plan, while other fighters will be temp in going with a follow up with that 1st knockdown of Garcia, Gervonta Davis has stayed composed and calm the whole fight,

[mu_enrico]

Damn, I predicted a KO in round 9, so close...

Well, I think Ryan Garcia look drained, he is not 100% conditioned on the fight.  You can see it on Ryan Garcia's face.  Tank Davis just got the better of Ryan Garcia because he fought a not 100% Ryan Garcia, he would possibly have a hard time beating the guy if Garcia is 100% rehydrated.

Dehydration is a problem, but it won't make much difference in the result anyway IMO, the level gap is too big. Tank is in his prime and a highly skilled powerful Southpaw boxer... He's unbeatable at this weight class.

Ry should've sharpened his skill more and become a more mature boxer before facing an opponent like Tank.

[bittraffic]

Damn, I predicted a KO in round 9, so close...

Well, I think Ryan Garcia look drained, he is not 100% conditioned on the fight.  You can see it on Ryan Garcia's face.  Tank Davis just got the better of Ryan Garcia because he fought a not 100% Ryan Garcia, he would possibly have a hard time beating the guy if Garcia is 100% rehydrated.

Dehydration is a problem, but it won't make much difference in the result anyway IMO, the level gap is too big. Tank is in his prime and a highly skilled powerful Southpaw boxer... He's unbeatable at this weight class.

Ry should've sharpened his skill more and become a more mature boxer before facing an opponent like Tank.

It's common for the losing side to find excuses but ye sure he could have dehydrated to achieve the weight as it's also a common thing to do not just in boxing. So he isn't 100% healthy while fighting but that wouldn't be Tank's fault, after all, Ryan also landed good shots.

The recent update was indeed he will be moving to 140 which is a more challenging division because of the more skilled men up there. Ryan is exposed and this could lead to another loss for him.
 

[carlfebz2]

Damn, I predicted a KO in round 9, so close...

Well, I think Ryan Garcia look drained, he is not 100% conditioned on the fight.  You can see it on Ryan Garcia's face.  Tank Davis just got the better of Ryan Garcia because he fought a not 100% Ryan Garcia, he would possibly have a hard time beating the guy if Garcia is 100% rehydrated.

Dehydration is a problem, but it won't make much difference in the result anyway IMO, the level gap is too big. Tank is in his prime and a highly skilled powerful Southpaw boxer... He's unbeatable at this weight class.

Ry should've sharpened his skill more and become a more mature boxer before facing an opponent like Tank.

It's common for the losing side to find excuses but ye sure he could have dehydrated to achieve the weight as it's also a common thing to do not just in boxing. So he isn't 100% healthy while fighting but that wouldn't be Tank's fault, after all, Ryan also landed good shots.

The recent update was indeed he will be moving to 140 which is a more challenging division because of the more skilled men up there. Ryan is exposed and this could lead to another loss for him.
 

Why wont be staying a while on this division first before going into higher? If he cant able to beat up on the current one then how much more into the one step up?. Its true that if you do look at on gap
with experience then its really that notable plus when it comes to power then Tank does dive out more. When it comes to speed then Garcia might be that fast but Tank isnt that getting behind either
but those clean solid punches did really knock him out on R7. When it comes to odds then it isnt really just that too far off but still a good considerable win for those who do bet on Davis obviously.

A possible rematch? I dont think so but it would really be depending on Ryan's team if they would really be reconsidering out but i would say that they would
really be that still far before they could be able to knock Tank but well who knows?

[stadus]

As for Tank Davis. I wonder if he is now ready to fight for a title. He should stop cherry-picking his opponents because I would love to see him vie for a title for a chance to become a 2 division world champion. His mindset of being the face of boxing though might be an indication that he will continue to cherry-pick his next opponents.

I already assume that few weeks after this fight, after we know the winner of Lomachenko vs Haney fight, there will be a hype that will surface soon, and people will start calling for Gervonta Davis to fight the current undisputed champion next because that is indeed the right thing to do. People are already tired seeing Davis fighting a less risky opponent as that's what he did in the past or what Mayweather did. But since he is now not with Mayweather, I guess there will be no issue for that fight to happen.

[serjent05]

Damn, I predicted a KO in round 9, so close...

Well, I think Ryan Garcia look drained, he is not 100% conditioned on the fight.  You can see it on Ryan Garcia's face.  Tank Davis just got the better of Ryan Garcia because he fought a not 100% Ryan Garcia, he would possibly have a hard time beating the guy if Garcia is 100% rehydrated.

Dehydration is a problem, but it won't make much difference in the result anyway IMO, the level gap is too big. Tank is in his prime and a highly skilled powerful Southpaw boxer... He's unbeatable at this weight class.

I agree the result won't change and I still think it would be a knockout not by the body shot but by a punch that landed on the jaw and the KO would have been much more beautiful than just sitting and gasping for breath.  Honestly, I don't think Ryan even gives Tank a challenge.  Almost all punches of Ryan Garcia were predicted and blocked by Davis and the KD in 2nd round was so fast that people behind the boxer won't notice the punch that made Ryan down in the 2nd round.

Ry should've sharpened his skill more and become a more mature boxer before facing an opponent like Tank.

I think Ryan would know what he is lacking now.  Sometimes a boxer needs a defeat in order to see his shortcomings.

[yazher]

It's common for the losing side to find excuses but ye sure he could have dehydrated to achieve the weight as it's also a common thing to do not just in boxing. So he isn't 100% healthy while fighting but that wouldn't be Tank's fault, after all, Ryan also landed good shots.
The recent update was indeed he will be moving to 140 which is a more challenging division because of the more skilled men up there. Ryan is exposed and this could lead to another loss for him.

I think they won't gonna put pressure on him after his loss and will gonna match up with someone who is not really that matter at all in that weight division. After all, it was a good experience for Garcia to reach his limit and learn from it so that he knows where he needs to improve his skills in order to avoid such things to happen again. When it comes to his punches and speed, it's right there but it's not enough when you have a weak body and can take few power punches and cannot successfully defend it. right now, he needs to improve and build a strong defense on that side because it will surely be the target of his next opponents.

[sunsilk]

There were rumors that Ryan Garcia just quit on this fight, specially after that 2nd round knockout of his.

He didn't, it came from him that both of them talk about things but then he admits that it was a good match and Tank did really got him with that punch.

The match was clean and by that day, Tank was just the better fighter and got him on round 7. Congratulations still, to him and mostly to Tank for winning that bout.

He has surely a lot to learn on this experience.