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January 19, 2023, 01:38:00 AM
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The votes in the poll are already 50/50. It means half thinks Devin Haney will prevail over Vasiliy Lomachenko but the other half thinks the other way around, that the older Lomachenko will defeat the champion Haney. This is a surprising result because the gambling odds released at this point suggest that Haney is the favorite and Loma is the underdog. The odds are even far from even. It means the fight is most probably favoring the younger fighter.

It's hard to predict, as what we have seen that Loma seems to get old overnight against Ortiz. But this might not be case in this fight as the stake are very high. And with such talent, for sure Loma will have to elevated his game against a young champion in Devin Haney. So even our boxing fans here are split as who will win this fight. And if the fight is listed on the sports bookies as well, it might be close with Haney taking a slight lead as betting favorite.

Actually there are already odds released for this fight by some bookies. But I haven't seen the odds of my crypto sports betting platform. But if you try to search for betting odds for this fight, you can already find some. Betfair has odds of 1.44 for Devin Haney and 2.75 for Vasyl Lomachenko. Those odds are not really close. Haney is really the favorite and Lomachenko the underdog. Unlike in the poll here, the odds are saying this is not a 50/50 fight.

Odds are more reliable because those who made it are professionals, they have lots of basis, unlike the poll result here is only based on our personal perception without considering a lot of factors, so it's more bias IMO. Anyway, it's not actually a big deal, the most important is that these two agreed to fight and that's enough to entertain the fans.

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January 19, 2023, 11:36:37 AM
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The votes in the poll are already 50/50. It means half thinks Devin Haney will prevail over Vasiliy Lomachenko but the other half thinks the other way around, that the older Lomachenko will defeat the champion Haney. This is a surprising result because the gambling odds released at this point suggest that Haney is the favorite and Loma is the underdog. The odds are even far from even. It means the fight is most probably favoring the younger fighter.

It's hard to predict, as what we have seen that Loma seems to get old overnight against Ortiz. But this might not be case in this fight as the stake are very high. And with such talent, for sure Loma will have to elevated his game against a young champion in Devin Haney. So even our boxing fans here are split as who will win this fight. And if the fight is listed on the sports bookies as well, it might be close with Haney taking a slight lead as betting favorite.

Actually there are already odds released for this fight by some bookies. But I haven't seen the odds of my crypto sports betting platform. But if you try to search for betting odds for this fight, you can already find some. Betfair has odds of 1.44 for Devin Haney and 2.75 for Vasyl Lomachenko. Those odds are not really close. Haney is really the favorite and Lomachenko the underdog. Unlike in the poll here, the odds are saying this is not a 50/50 fight.

Odds are more reliable because those who made it are professionals, they have lots of basis, unlike the poll result here is only based on our personal perception without considering a lot of factors, so it's more bias IMO. Anyway, it's not actually a big deal, the most important is that these two agreed to fight and that's enough to entertain the fans.

Probably, but I do think that boxing fans here are not voting because they are emotionally attach, I think they are more intelligent than that in my opinion.

Yes, it's hard to predict because we are basing on their past fights, but we have seen them during their best and worst fight that we can make our own conclusions based on that. We can't question those who will make the odds, as this odd makers really knows their job. But you can go against the popular opinion and see if your prediction or correct or wrong, in my opinion.

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January 19, 2023, 01:54:42 PM
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Just like other fans, I'm gonna be biased here and will root for Loma. Maybe he is passed his prime but his IQ is still there and 34 isn't old enough as other boxers at his age are still doing pretty well too. Let's not forget Pacquiao passed his prime and still manage to win by a split decision at age 40.
No, 34 years old is still prime age... I would say 40 years old is where their power and stamina are greatly decrease. Just look GGG is still active fighting and he would likely want to challenge a champion at 40 years old.

Although Haney has all the advantage, reach, size, youth except I think is the experience where Loma has the advantage, many believes that the fighting style and ring adaptiveness of Loma is superb,  I also want to see Loma win this upcoming fight.
Yeah, Loma was built different, I don't find any good boxer that similar with him because most of them has reach advantage and young. So much respect to Loma even though he doesn't own any title anymore, it's his time to get back all his titles after losing to Lopez.

But GGG's wear and tear is somehow evident and he's not that agile anymore compared to his younger years or when he was still under 35 years old considering that he's already at the age of 40, but considering that age, GGG can still move well and give some good punch that will question his opponent if he's indeed already 40 years old. Murata is a good example for that.

Regarding this fight, I know you guys are rooting for Loma here but I will go for the opposite camp where Haney is situated. Just can't help to be with the kid especially after seeing some of his fights, recently. He's just too confident because he's good at technical and his defense are quite impressive as well.

Yeah, wear and tear, or what we call Father time, no one can defeat that and we have seen GGG slowing down once he reach the age of 35 and up. Although eh keeps on winning, he no longer has that power to put his opponent with his one power.

And this could be evident in Loma in his last fight against Ortiz. If Ortiz could have the experience, who knows, maybe he could have upset Loma that time and get the victory. But this time, it's against a prime Haney that Loma will have to face, so it's going to be a big test for him whether we've seen some signs of deterioration and because of age, or Loma can still pull the trigger against a young opponent.

Well I remember that fight very well, but it's not for nothing, but the demonstration that Loma gave was very great, he made Ortiz look very bad, I don't know what I could think of him, but when making a comparison of who is better between them two, it could be said that the fight will be very interesting, in every boxing forum that I have seen, many speculations about this fight are very biased towards Haney, they are very good, and I do not blame them because it is the statistics that are very good and for In general, for all those who do not know very well about the boxers, just by following the statistics well to the letter, they can even win many bets, of course there will always be the surprise factor.

The votes in the poll are already 50/50. It means half thinks Devin Haney will prevail over Vasiliy Lomachenko but the other half thinks the other way around, that the older Lomachenko will defeat the champion Haney. This is a surprising result because the gambling odds released at this point suggest that Haney is the favorite and Loma is the underdog. The odds are even far from even. It means the fight is most probably favoring the younger fighter.

If Loma is 10 yrs younger the odds could be a bit confusing whom to favour. Haney only is the most favourite because of how well he fought as he moved forward with his career, especially with how he fought Kambosos. Loma on the other hand, have seen a slight rust due to his age, but still he managed to make a come back after that loss to Lopez. So, that explains why people in this community thinks Loma still have plenty left in his tank to get this job done.

Well, sports betting sites and their analysts based their analysis without involving emotions. While many of us fight fans will vote for our favorite fighters even if they are already past their primes. But I honestly voted for Haney in the poll even if I wanted Loma to win.

If this fight happened 10 years ago, no doubt, The Matrix will be a huge favorite. His confidence, aggression, and lateral movements will be at a whole different level. I'd never seen Loma facing any difficulties when he was in his 20s except when he fought the overweight balls hitter Orlando Salido in his 2nd pro fight which could've gone either way.

From what I have seen in the forum, almost everyone has a special appreciation or affinity towards Haney, in any case I have seen how Loma has enough shape and conditions to be able to have a good match, I think this fight will be interesting, some forums most They are going now for Haney, but many also have Loma as a favorite, but to be honest this fight will be very interesting so that when a bet is made, it should be done with great measure, it is possible that they have many points in common, but Until now I have a lot of uncertainty, I wouldn't know who to vote for or make a bet.

Bob Arum states Devin Haney vs. Vasyl Lomachenko is “essentially made” for 2023



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By Dan Ambrose: Promoter Bob Arum says a fight between Devin Haney and Vasyl Lomachenko is “essentially made” for early 2023. The Top Rank boss Arum is trying to iron down a date and a location for the Haney vs. Lomachenko fight. Haney, 24, has been pushing to have the fight with the fading former three-division world champion Lomachenko (17-2, 11 KOs) to take place before Ramadan, as that’ll make it easier for him to make the 135-lb limit. If the fight takes place after Ramadan, Haney will be more drained and might not make the 135-lb limit. The four titles would still be up for grabs for Lomachenko, but Haney would take flak from the boxing world for missing weight.

Source: Bob Arum States Devin Haney Vs. Vasyl Lomachenko Is "essentially Made" For 2023 - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/bob-arum-states-devin-haney-vs-vasyl-lomachenko-is-essentially-made-for-2023/)


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/bob-arum-states-devin-haney-vs-vasyl-lomachenko-is-essentially-made-for-2023/

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January 19, 2023, 07:08:36 PM
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The votes in the poll are already 50/50. It means half thinks Devin Haney will prevail over Vasiliy Lomachenko but the other half thinks the other way around, that the older Lomachenko will defeat the champion Haney. This is a surprising result because the gambling odds released at this point suggest that Haney is the favorite and Loma is the underdog. The odds are even far from even. It means the fight is most probably favoring the younger fighter.

It's hard to predict, as what we have seen that Loma seems to get old overnight against Ortiz. But this might not be case in this fight as the stake are very high. And with such talent, for sure Loma will have to elevated his game against a young champion in Devin Haney. So even our boxing fans here are split as who will win this fight. And if the fight is listed on the sports bookies as well, it might be close with Haney taking a slight lead as betting favorite.

Actually there are already odds released for this fight by some bookies. But I haven't seen the odds of my crypto sports betting platform. But if you try to search for betting odds for this fight, you can already find some. Betfair has odds of 1.44 for Devin Haney and 2.75 for Vasyl Lomachenko. Those odds are not really close. Haney is really the favorite and Lomachenko the underdog. Unlike in the poll here, the odds are saying this is not a 50/50 fight.

Odds are more reliable because those who made it are professionals, they have lots of basis, unlike the poll result here is only based on our personal perception without considering a lot of factors, so it's more bias IMO. Anyway, it's not actually a big deal, the most important is that these two agreed to fight and that's enough to entertain the fans.

And don't forget that bookies aren't there to giveaway free money, their main goal is to collect money, so it's safe to say that these bookies are just misleading us. Still it's understandable and reasonable to see that Devin Haney has been favored as the favorite in the bookies list, factors are too many to mention and some are based on their recent performance which dictates that Haney indeed got the upper hand compared to Loma.

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January 19, 2023, 10:44:05 PM
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And don't forget that bookies aren't there to giveaway free money, their main goal is to collect money, so it's safe to say that these bookies are just misleading us. Still it's understandable and reasonable to see that Devin Haney has been favored as the favorite in the bookies list, factors are too many to mention and some are based on their recent performance which dictates that Haney indeed got the upper hand compared to Loma.
We must remember the main goal of sportbooks is not to give precise odds but to make money, generating precise odds is just a means to an end, and while Haney should be favored, sportbooks could give even higher odds for Haney to win by virtue of knowing the fans most of the time make bets on the favorite and it is on their interest to take advantage of those tendencies.

And while Lomachenko is a great fighter the advantage Haney has in height, reach and age may be too much for Lomachenko to overcome.
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January 19, 2023, 11:05:09 PM
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And don't forget that bookies aren't there to giveaway free money, their main goal is to collect money, so it's safe to say that these bookies are just misleading us. Still it's understandable and reasonable to see that Devin Haney has been favored as the favorite in the bookies list, factors are too many to mention and some are based on their recent performance which dictates that Haney indeed got the upper hand compared to Loma.
We must remember the main goal of sportbooks is not to give precise odds but to make money, generating precise odds is just a means to an end, and while Haney should be favored, sportbooks could give even higher odds for Haney to win by virtue of knowing the fans most of the time make bets on the favorite and it is on their interest to take advantage of those tendencies.

And while Lomachenko is a great fighter the advantage Haney has in height, reach and age may be too much for Lomachenko to overcome.

Yes, we all know that bookies odd listing is more of a trap hehehe, it's really very close that it's hard for us to bet specially the under and over rounds or even the ML because of how this fight is very close.

And while Haney has all the physical attributes here, like height and reach, but Loma still deserves some recognition that we might see the best version of him after his comeback. He is not known of "hi-tech" for nothing, he knows how to offset his opponents advantages and turn the fight to his favor by his foot work and shot choice and accuracy.

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January 20, 2023, 01:24:11 PM
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And don't forget that bookies aren't there to giveaway free money, their main goal is to collect money, so it's safe to say that these bookies are just misleading us. Still it's understandable and reasonable to see that Devin Haney has been favored as the favorite in the bookies list, factors are too many to mention and some are based on their recent performance which dictates that Haney indeed got the upper hand compared to Loma.
We must remember the main goal of sportbooks is not to give precise odds but to make money, generating precise odds is just a means to an end, and while Haney should be favored, sportbooks could give even higher odds for Haney to win by virtue of knowing the fans most of the time make bets on the favorite and it is on their interest to take advantage of those tendencies.

And while Lomachenko is a great fighter the advantage Haney has in height, reach and age may be too much for Lomachenko to overcome.

Yes, we all know that bookies odd listing is more of a trap hehehe, it's really very close that it's hard for us to bet specially the under and over rounds or even the ML because of how this fight is very close.

And while Haney has all the physical attributes here, like height and reach, but Loma still deserves some recognition that we might see the best version of him after his comeback. He is not known of "hi-tech" for nothing, he knows how to offset his opponents advantages and turn the fight to his favor by his foot work and shot choice and accuracy.

That's why I still like him despite being the underdog in this fight. Haney is undefeated and is currently in his prime, but Loma is a methodological fighter, he usually starts slow but he knows how to beat his opponent by exposing their weakness in the later rounds. Actually, Loma's value will not drop if he did not lose to Lopez, but I find that fight a close one, so I believe Loma is still here and his chance of wining is still decent.

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January 20, 2023, 06:47:52 PM
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And don't forget that bookies aren't there to giveaway free money, their main goal is to collect money, so it's safe to say that these bookies are just misleading us. Still it's understandable and reasonable to see that Devin Haney has been favored as the favorite in the bookies list, factors are too many to mention and some are based on their recent performance which dictates that Haney indeed got the upper hand compared to Loma.
We must remember the main goal of sportbooks is not to give precise odds but to make money, generating precise odds is just a means to an end, and while Haney should be favored, sportbooks could give even higher odds for Haney to win by virtue of knowing the fans most of the time make bets on the favorite and it is on their interest to take advantage of those tendencies.

And while Lomachenko is a great fighter the advantage Haney has in height, reach and age may be too much for Lomachenko to overcome.

I think you mean Lomachenko who will get more higher odds to win to make the bettors more confused and lure them to a trap to bet into the underdog knowing that most of the time, bettors are always betting for the favorite to minimize risk. In this case, Haney will indeed be getting the label of favorite by the sports bookies because they won't be labeling him as underdog because bettors will surely take advantage of it.

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January 23, 2023, 11:37:45 PM
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And don't forget that bookies aren't there to giveaway free money, their main goal is to collect money, so it's safe to say that these bookies are just misleading us. Still it's understandable and reasonable to see that Devin Haney has been favored as the favorite in the bookies list, factors are too many to mention and some are based on their recent performance which dictates that Haney indeed got the upper hand compared to Loma.
We must remember the main goal of sportbooks is not to give precise odds but to make money, generating precise odds is just a means to an end, and while Haney should be favored, sportbooks could give even higher odds for Haney to win by virtue of knowing the fans most of the time make bets on the favorite and it is on their interest to take advantage of those tendencies.

And while Lomachenko is a great fighter the advantage Haney has in height, reach and age may be too much for Lomachenko to overcome.

Yes, we all know that bookies odd listing is more of a trap hehehe, it's really very close that it's hard for us to bet specially the under and over rounds or even the ML because of how this fight is very close.

And while Haney has all the physical attributes here, like height and reach, but Loma still deserves some recognition that we might see the best version of him after his comeback. He is not known of "hi-tech" for nothing, he knows how to offset his opponents advantages and turn the fight to his favor by his foot work and shot choice and accuracy.

That's why I still like him despite being the underdog in this fight. Haney is undefeated and is currently in his prime, but Loma is a methodological fighter, he usually starts slow but he knows how to beat his opponent by exposing their weakness in the later rounds. Actually, Loma's value will not drop if he did not lose to Lopez, but I find that fight a close one, so I believe Loma is still here and his chance of wining is still decent.

And he has a shoulder injury in that fight against Lopez, nothing against Teo, we can't take anything from him winning against Loma that time. But if Loma is healthy at that fight, who knows, it could be a different outcome or the fight might be very close.

For this fight though, there should be no excuses, he is healthy and so this is going to be a close fight.

Maybe we can see the best version of Loma as this is a huge fight for him as all the belts of Haney is on the line and he wanted to become a unified champion.

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January 23, 2023, 11:56:41 PM
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And don't forget that bookies aren't there to giveaway free money, their main goal is to collect money, so it's safe to say that these bookies are just misleading us. Still it's understandable and reasonable to see that Devin Haney has been favored as the favorite in the bookies list, factors are too many to mention and some are based on their recent performance which dictates that Haney indeed got the upper hand compared to Loma.
We must remember the main goal of sportbooks is not to give precise odds but to make money, generating precise odds is just a means to an end, and while Haney should be favored, sportbooks could give even higher odds for Haney to win by virtue of knowing the fans most of the time make bets on the favorite and it is on their interest to take advantage of those tendencies.

And while Lomachenko is a great fighter the advantage Haney has in height, reach and age may be too much for Lomachenko to overcome.
This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.

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This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.
Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.

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This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.
Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.
if I remember correctly,Loma had a serious shoulder injury and he could not box in a standard mode for himself and reach his potential by 100%
But as far as I know, he has now fully recovered and there is a decent amount of time until May, so he should be as ready as possible for this fight.

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This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.
Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.

And Haney is pillow fisted as well that's why his knockout record is not that good. He put the fight in a hard and grind full 12 rounds. But I think Loma can survived that and maybe he can land some good punches on Haney and tested that chin. Haney has a good defense but I'm seeing with Loma's being a good in fighting technical fighters, he might break that defense of Haney. So still going to be close although the way I look at it, Haney could be the favorite because of Loma's last performance against Ortiz.

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January 25, 2023, 05:31:36 PM
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This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.
Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.

And Haney is pillow fisted as well that's why his knockout record is not that good. He put the fight in a hard and grind full 12 rounds. But I think Loma can survived that and maybe he can land some good punches on Haney and tested that chin. Haney has a good defense but I'm seeing with Loma's being a good in fighting technical fighters, he might break that defense of Haney. So still going to be close although the way I look at it, Haney could be the favorite because of Loma's last performance against Ortiz.

Yes, there could be moments that Loma might hit Haney direct to the chin and we will see how Haney will react. It's not the first time for Haney, he has fought fighters like Jorge Linares that caught and hit him square and he almost goes down. But he has this instinct to huge his opponents. So if he ever tasted that power of Loma, he will do the same for sure to survived that round. He has also this ability to recuperate very quick. So really great to see this fight because of the styles of the two and their advantage and disadvantage.
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January 26, 2023, 07:48:21 PM
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This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.
Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.

And Haney is pillow fisted as well that's why his knockout record is not that good. He put the fight in a hard and grind full 12 rounds. But I think Loma can survived that and maybe he can land some good punches on Haney and tested that chin. Haney has a good defense but I'm seeing with Loma's being a good in fighting technical fighters, he might break that defense of Haney. So still going to be close although the way I look at it, Haney could be the favorite because of Loma's last performance against Ortiz.

Yes, there could be moments that Loma might hit Haney direct to the chin and we will see how Haney will react. It's not the first time for Haney, he has fought fighters like Jorge Linares that caught and hit him square and he almost goes down. But he has this instinct to huge his opponents. So if he ever tasted that power of Loma, he will do the same for sure to survived that round. He has also this ability to recuperate very quick. So really great to see this fight because of the styles of the two and their advantage and disadvantage.

Certainly the reasons why this fight is one of the few most awaited fights as this will be a battle of brains and technicalities, not sure who will win though but I don't doubt that we will witness a good match but I can't lie that I think that Haney will have a good advantage over Loma because judging both of their recent fights, Loma is not that fast and good anymore. Or maybe he's just adjusting from a long inactivity, what do you think?

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January 26, 2023, 08:55:04 PM
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This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.
Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.

And Haney is pillow fisted as well that's why his knockout record is not that good. He put the fight in a hard and grind full 12 rounds. But I think Loma can survived that and maybe he can land some good punches on Haney and tested that chin. Haney has a good defense but I'm seeing with Loma's being a good in fighting technical fighters, he might break that defense of Haney. So still going to be close although the way I look at it, Haney could be the favorite because of Loma's last performance against Ortiz.

Yes, there could be moments that Loma might hit Haney direct to the chin and we will see how Haney will react. It's not the first time for Haney, he has fought fighters like Jorge Linares that caught and hit him square and he almost goes down. But he has this instinct to huge his opponents. So if he ever tasted that power of Loma, he will do the same for sure to survived that round. He has also this ability to recuperate very quick. So really great to see this fight because of the styles of the two and their advantage and disadvantage.

Certainly the reasons why this fight is one of the few most awaited fights as this will be a battle of brains and technicalities, not sure who will win though but I don't doubt that we will witness a good match but I can't lie that I think that Haney will have a good advantage over Loma because judging both of their recent fights, Loma is not that fast and good anymore. Or maybe he's just adjusting from a long inactivity, what do you think?

Yeah, it could go 50/50 or someone will really dominate the fight. So if Loma is bad in the last fight and then Haney continue his super showing, then it could be Haney winning in the scorecard because of his advantage in height and reach. But if Loma suddenly found his rhythm that Devin can't solve him, then I think Loma will take this win. And with that, gonna be hard to predict. But as fans, we love to see this kind of technical fights and maybe we can say it's the battle of new and the old champion who is trying to prove himself that he can become a champion.
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It's hard to predict, as what we have seen that Loma seems to get old overnight against Ortiz. But this might not be case in this fight as the stake are very high. And with such talent, for sure Loma will have to elevated his game against a young champion in Devin Haney. So even our boxing fans here are split as who will win this fight. And if the fight is listed on the sports bookies as well, it might be close with Haney taking a slight lead as betting favorite.

Actually there are already odds released for this fight by some bookies. But I haven't seen the odds of my crypto sports betting platform. But if you try to search for betting odds for this fight, you can already find some. Betfair has odds of 1.44 for Devin Haney and 2.75 for Vasyl Lomachenko. Those odds are not really close. Haney is really the favorite and Lomachenko the underdog. Unlike in the poll here, the odds are saying this is not a 50/50 fight.

Odds are more reliable because those who made it are professionals, they have lots of basis, unlike the poll result here is only based on our personal perception without considering a lot of factors, so it's more bias IMO. Anyway, it's not actually a big deal, the most important is that these two agreed to fight and that's enough to entertain the fans.

True, the poll here is based on personal favorite, only a few I think consider technicalities.  Odds are calculate according to the boxer's stats, recent performance  and condition so it is more technical and possibly have more sense than the poll here.

I also think that Haney have the advantage here because he is young and his defense is quite good plus he is much bigger than Lomachenco.  I am also curious to see whether the rumors about Lomachenco style will beat Haney's defensive style is true, so I am looking forward on seeing how this kind of thing will unfold.
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January 26, 2023, 09:20:47 PM
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It's hard to predict, as what we have seen that Loma seems to get old overnight against Ortiz. But this might not be case in this fight as the stake are very high. And with such talent, for sure Loma will have to elevated his game against a young champion in Devin Haney. So even our boxing fans here are split as who will win this fight. And if the fight is listed on the sports bookies as well, it might be close with Haney taking a slight lead as betting favorite.

Actually there are already odds released for this fight by some bookies. But I haven't seen the odds of my crypto sports betting platform. But if you try to search for betting odds for this fight, you can already find some. Betfair has odds of 1.44 for Devin Haney and 2.75 for Vasyl Lomachenko. Those odds are not really close. Haney is really the favorite and Lomachenko the underdog. Unlike in the poll here, the odds are saying this is not a 50/50 fight.

Odds are more reliable because those who made it are professionals, they have lots of basis, unlike the poll result here is only based on our personal perception without considering a lot of factors, so it's more bias IMO. Anyway, it's not actually a big deal, the most important is that these two agreed to fight and that's enough to entertain the fans.

True, the poll here is based on personal favorite, only a few I think consider technicalities.  Odds are calculate according to the boxer's stats, recent performance  and condition so it is more technical and possibly have more sense than the poll here.

I also think that Haney have the advantage here because he is young and his defense is quite good plus he is much bigger than Lomachenco.  I am also curious to see whether the rumors about Lomachenco style will beat Haney's defensive style is true, so I am looking forward on seeing how this kind of thing will unfold.

I think the height advantage though might be critical here for Loma, against Ortiz in his last fight, he has difficulty because Ortiz is young and tall and very strong. So this might be Loma's weakness though, and with that others are thinking that Haney with that physique will give Loma another lost in his career and will not get back his belt.

But it's hard to discount the fact that Loma has so much experience and has a great skills when he was at his prime.

Gonna be a close fight, but all of us are looking forward to see this fight and what scenario are going to happen.

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January 27, 2023, 12:03:40 PM
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while Lomachenko has the advantage of being very experienced due to his age, he had 400 fights against Haney's 146 fights , I'll wait in May to see which one is the favorite and if there are odds worth betting
A lot of fights for both men but these are probably short rounded fights against nobodies. I would not use this information to aid your betting because there is no way that any of these fights mean anything. I think Haney is a good fighter but I would not say he is quicker then Lomachenko. Loma has some of the fastest hands in boxing and has some of the quickest feet. What I do think Haney has over Loma is Loma has lost some of his fire in his older age and Haney has something to chase and pursue.
As a fan we will be biased, if we are a fan of Loma, we will certainly believe that he is faster and even stronger than Haney. That's the exciting part of this fight because both are great boxers, I think the only advantage of Haney is he is the younger fighter and still undefeated, the rest, it's all fair, or Loma has some edge too.

Actually, it's easy to say because these are just our perception, so let's just wait for the official fight to make our judgment.

Not only here, I have seen many boxing forums where Loma is declared the winner, it is something impressive, I do not know why there is so much partiality towards him, he is a boxer with a lot of experience and has great technique, for me he is one of the best, I also think Haney's technique is good, and I know he has many fans, he believes that many good things can lie, however this is one of those fights that can make a difference, for me I don't see Loma very favorite, Hney is also a boxer who may be underestimated and not directly by Loma but by an entire audience and this does not please the boxers, their pride is tarnished.

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Report: Haney vs. Lomachenko could happen May 20th

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According to the WBC, a super fight between world lightweight champion Devin Haney (29-0, 15 KO) and former three-division champion Vasyl Lomachenko (23-2 including the World Series of Boxing) could take place on May 20th at venue to be determined. The WBC reported: "This has been commented on by promoter Bob Arum, in charge of organizing the fight, assuring that in the coming days he will release more details."  The WBC quoted Arum, the CEO of Top Rank, as saying, "the fight is already agreed. It could be in New York in May, Las Vegas or the Middle East, where boxing has been getting great acceptance.”

Source: http://www.boxingtalk.com/Report-Haney-vs-Lomachenko-could-happen-May-20th

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January 27, 2023, 08:20:59 PM
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This fight will be very spectacular,but I will still give preference to Vasily because the speed of his work in the ring is impressive,he is so fast and technical fighter.I don't always have time to keep track of his legs,it's not even worth talking about his hands.I think Loma will win on points and the fight will be all 12 rounds.
Yeah may likely or Haney will win via decision too, I don't expect any knock out here because Loma has an iron chin while Haney know to dodge and not received too much punches. I just hope Loma would be 100% healthy during the fight because when he was fight with Lopez, Loma is really not doing anything on the first 6 rounds and it make the judges give more points on Lopez.

And Haney is pillow fisted as well that's why his knockout record is not that good. He put the fight in a hard and grind full 12 rounds. But I think Loma can survived that and maybe he can land some good punches on Haney and tested that chin. Haney has a good defense but I'm seeing with Loma's being a good in fighting technical fighters, he might break that defense of Haney. So still going to be close although the way I look at it, Haney could be the favorite because of Loma's last performance against Ortiz.

Yes, there could be moments that Loma might hit Haney direct to the chin and we will see how Haney will react. It's not the first time for Haney, he has fought fighters like Jorge Linares that caught and hit him square and he almost goes down. But he has this instinct to huge his opponents. So if he ever tasted that power of Loma, he will do the same for sure to survived that round. He has also this ability to recuperate very quick. So really great to see this fight because of the styles of the two and their advantage and disadvantage.

Certainly the reasons why this fight is one of the few most awaited fights as this will be a battle of brains and technicalities, not sure who will win though but I don't doubt that we will witness a good match but I can't lie that I think that Haney will have a good advantage over Loma because judging both of their recent fights, Loma is not that fast and good anymore. Or maybe he's just adjusting from a long inactivity, what do you think?

Yeah, it could go 50/50 or someone will really dominate the fight. So if Loma is bad in the last fight and then Haney continue his super showing, then it could be Haney winning in the scorecard because of his advantage in height and reach. But if Loma suddenly found his rhythm that Devin can't solve him, then I think Loma will take this win. And with that, gonna be hard to predict. But as fans, we love to see this kind of technical fights and maybe we can say it's the battle of new and the old champion who is trying to prove himself that he can become a champion.

Both risky, especially for Loma's situation because I'm wondering what will happen to Loma's career if he gets defeated here versus Haney (which is expected by most of the avid boxing fans) as I'm almost certain that he will become a stepping stone and a prize for some boxers in the lower bracket because they know that defeating Loma will increase their credibility. But who knows, right? Loma might've found his rhythm this time, much different from what he showed in his recent fight.

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