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April 28, 2023, 02:07:15 AM |
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Haney is probably bigger, but they'll be on the same weight on the day of the fight. So just like the Tank vs. Garcia fight where Garcia was the taller fighter and probably bigger, Tank Davis was still able to find a way to hurt Garcia and knock him out. That was a different match. It was just a matter of time before Davis would land that perfect punch to bring Garcia down, regardless of how tall or big Garcia is. As to Haney and Loma, they both don't have that super powerful punch like Tank's. So this is most probably a fight that ends in a decision. So with a bigger Haney that also has a longer reach, Loma will really have to be quick and make use of his unbelievable footwork to close the distance and score. You bring a good point, in this case Loma is known to have a very good and quick foot work. And that's how we see Loma during the start of his career, unbelievable footwork that no one can match, not even quality Olympians like him in Rigo, who just quit in his stool because he can't cope with Loma's technique. So their style could really be a match made him heaven here. And what we have said, this could be a tactical and a chess match. Unlike to Garcia and Davis fight wherein they rely on their power to win via knockout. This one, the boxing IQ of this boxers will be in display. There could be rounds that Haney is dominating because of his long reach and taking advantage of his height. And then the next round, Loma coming back with his superior movement and hand speeds and then touching Haney at will. So it could go into the distance and gonna be hard to score for sure. Yes, the word here is technical. Both Haney and Loma are technical fighters. So this is a completely different match from Davis vs. Garcia in which a knockout is expected to happen. Both Tank and Garcia are just looking for the perfect timing to knock the opponent down or out. In Loma vs. Haney, the battle is about points. The goal is simply to outsmart, outmaneuver, and outpoint the other. Any knockdown or knockout is just a bonus and is unexpected.
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April 28, 2023, 10:04:51 AM |
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I had watched Mayweather's fights, and like you said, he's boring to watch as hell. Like he is more defensive than offensive. You don't see him throwing punches more often, but he is waiting for his opponent to lose his patience, throw punches, and slowly countering him until such time that he can knocked that opponent down.
On the other hand, it's boring, but that made him undefeated in professional boxing (disregard those troll fights where he will fight celebrities). Even the 8-time division champion Pacquiao lost against him (controversial though). How "Tank" Davis fights in the ring is way better than Mayweather even though he mentored him for almost a decade now. Davis got the defensive skills of Mayweather, but at the same time, he's an explosive fighter and throws a lot more, and stronger punches.
Haney and Mayweather's way of fighting is almost the same that's why the fight between Haney and Kambosos Jr. (first fight) became one of the most boring fights I've ever watched to the point that I slept while watching the fight.
In particular, I don't like this when they fight in a technical way, it makes me annoyed, because I see that they don't want to hurt each other and although the fight falls into a purely technical and intelligence sphere, I don't like it, and that makes it look boring,and obviously it is, when I establish a type of analogy with boxing in the Olympics that happens, and it is something that bothers me, I don't know if you Remember the case of the Japanese? that they gave him as the winner and he came out in wheelchairs while the opponent was normal,with normal tiredness but he was much better and for me he fought well, that's what I don't like,and that's how there are boxers. Many people call Loma a technical fighter, but is he boring? The answer is a big NO. Loma has been entertaining to watch as he slowly dismantles his opponents. He may not be a good starter, but you can see how good he is once he spots the weakness of his opponents. Sometimes, he can even win via knockout. So, against Haney, I wouldn't be surprised if he wins by KO. If in fact Loma is something different from the others, of course he cannot be compared with a Mayweather who is merely technical and that I don't like his fights at least because he really is like a sedative for me, as far as I'm concerned I I really like fights with a lot of action and that have a lot of emotion and that every round each boxer gives their all, that is the style of boxing that I like, now if they go to a boxing match where they will fight taking care of themselves and that it is only technically It is best that they dedicate themselves to exhibition boxing, of course it is my way of thinking. I think there is no comparison between Loma and Floyd, they are different fighters with different styles. If there is one, then is should be Devin Haney who is being compare to Floyd specially when Mayweather is at 135 lbs and still very young. He has that defense that he is known for, and then will uses his jab step to throw his left right and then uses the Philly shell to not give hit my anyone during his years at 135 lbs. And Haney is known to be that well as well, big specimen and long reach and also had a solid jab and good defense.
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April 28, 2023, 12:08:14 PM |
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I had watched Mayweather's fights, and like you said, he's boring to watch as hell. Like he is more defensive than offensive. You don't see him throwing punches more often, but he is waiting for his opponent to lose his patience, throw punches, and slowly countering him until such time that he can knocked that opponent down.
On the other hand, it's boring, but that made him undefeated in professional boxing (disregard those troll fights where he will fight celebrities). Even the 8-time division champion Pacquiao lost against him (controversial though). How "Tank" Davis fights in the ring is way better than Mayweather even though he mentored him for almost a decade now. Davis got the defensive skills of Mayweather, but at the same time, he's an explosive fighter and throws a lot more, and stronger punches.
Haney and Mayweather's way of fighting is almost the same that's why the fight between Haney and Kambosos Jr. (first fight) became one of the most boring fights I've ever watched to the point that I slept while watching the fight.
In particular, I don't like this when they fight in a technical way, it makes me annoyed, because I see that they don't want to hurt each other and although the fight falls into a purely technical and intelligence sphere, I don't like it, and that makes it look boring,and obviously it is, when I establish a type of analogy with boxing in the Olympics that happens, and it is something that bothers me, I don't know if you Remember the case of the Japanese? that they gave him as the winner and he came out in wheelchairs while the opponent was normal,with normal tiredness but he was much better and for me he fought well, that's what I don't like,and that's how there are boxers. Many people call Loma a technical fighter, but is he boring? The answer is a big NO. Loma has been entertaining to watch as he slowly dismantles his opponents. He may not be a good starter, but you can see how good he is once he spots the weakness of his opponents. Sometimes, he can even win via knockout. So, against Haney, I wouldn't be surprised if he wins by KO. If in fact Loma is something different from the others, of course he cannot be compared with a Mayweather who is merely technical and that I don't like his fights at least because he really is like a sedative for me, as far as I'm concerned I I really like fights with a lot of action and that have a lot of emotion and that every round each boxer gives their all, that is the style of boxing that I like, now if they go to a boxing match where they will fight taking care of themselves and that it is only technically It is best that they dedicate themselves to exhibition boxing, of course it is my way of thinking. I think there is no comparison between Loma and Floyd, they are different fighters with different styles. If there is one, then is should be Devin Haney who is being compare to Floyd specially when Mayweather is at 135 lbs and still very young. He has that defense that he is known for, and then will uses his jab step to throw his left right and then uses the Philly shell to not give hit my anyone during his years at 135 lbs. And Haney is known to be that well as well, big specimen and long reach and also had a solid jab and good defense. Devin Haney is wise enough to seek for Mayweather's teaching even though he is under Bob Arum's Top Rank while the latter got his own promotional company. It's good to see that Floyd isn't that selfish to teach somebody outside his promotions and part of the reason why Mayweather agreed is because he sees his self in Haney when he was still young and hungry. In this upcoming fight between Loma and Haney will be interesting to see because both got their own expertise in defense and in technical as well. Whoever wins this fight, I will look forward to see him battle versus Shakur who is now on the same division as them.
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April 28, 2023, 12:41:12 PM |
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Haney is probably bigger, but they'll be on the same weight on the day of the fight. So just like the Tank vs. Garcia fight where Garcia was the taller fighter and probably bigger, Tank Davis was still able to find a way to hurt Garcia and knock him out. That was a different match. It was just a matter of time before Davis would land that perfect punch to bring Garcia down, regardless of how tall or big Garcia is. As to Haney and Loma, they both don't have that super powerful punch like Tank's. So this is most probably a fight that ends in a decision. So with a bigger Haney that also has a longer reach, Loma will really have to be quick and make use of his unbelievable footwork to close the distance and score. You bring a good point, in this case Loma is known to have a very good and quick foot work. And that's how we see Loma during the start of his career, unbelievable footwork that no one can match, not even quality Olympians like him in Rigo, who just quit in his stool because he can't cope with Loma's technique. So their style could really be a match made him heaven here. And what we have said, this could be a tactical and a chess match. Unlike to Garcia and Davis fight wherein they rely on their power to win via knockout. This one, the boxing IQ of this boxers will be in display. There could be rounds that Haney is dominating because of his long reach and taking advantage of his height. And then the next round, Loma coming back with his superior movement and hand speeds and then touching Haney at will. So it could go into the distance and gonna be hard to score for sure. Yes, the word here is technical. Both Haney and Loma are technical fighters. So this is a completely different match from Davis vs. Garcia in which a knockout is expected to happen. Both Tank and Garcia are just looking for the perfect timing to knock the opponent down or out. In Loma vs. Haney, the battle is about points. The goal is simply to outsmart, outmaneuver, and outpoint the other. Any knockdown or knockout is just a bonus and is unexpected. Yep, that will be the proper term here, going to be very 'technical' match as both their skills because they don't have the power, it's not that they can't produce a knockout, it the right situation presents itself, then maybe they can win via knockout. But most likely, this two loves to pit their style against each other. So it's going to be a back and forth battle in the ring and as you have said, if we see a knockout or knockdown, it's going to be a big bonus for us. And base on the odds, the over and under rounds is 10.5. And the odds for the over round 10.5 is very low at 1.17. So even bookies predicts that this fight might go down the full distance. And the winner will have to go to the judges scorecard.
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April 28, 2023, 08:27:55 PM |
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Haney is probably bigger, but they'll be on the same weight on the day of the fight. So just like the Tank vs. Garcia fight where Garcia was the taller fighter and probably bigger, Tank Davis was still able to find a way to hurt Garcia and knock him out. That was a different match. It was just a matter of time before Davis would land that perfect punch to bring Garcia down, regardless of how tall or big Garcia is. As to Haney and Loma, they both don't have that super powerful punch like Tank's. So this is most probably a fight that ends in a decision. So with a bigger Haney that also has a longer reach, Loma will really have to be quick and make use of his unbelievable footwork to close the distance and score. You bring a good point, in this case Loma is known to have a very good and quick foot work. And that's how we see Loma during the start of his career, unbelievable footwork that no one can match, not even quality Olympians like him in Rigo, who just quit in his stool because he can't cope with Loma's technique. So their style could really be a match made him heaven here. And what we have said, this could be a tactical and a chess match. Unlike to Garcia and Davis fight wherein they rely on their power to win via knockout. This one, the boxing IQ of this boxers will be in display. There could be rounds that Haney is dominating because of his long reach and taking advantage of his height. And then the next round, Loma coming back with his superior movement and hand speeds and then touching Haney at will. So it could go into the distance and gonna be hard to score for sure. Yes, the word here is technical. Both Haney and Loma are technical fighters. So this is a completely different match from Davis vs. Garcia in which a knockout is expected to happen. Both Tank and Garcia are just looking for the perfect timing to knock the opponent down or out. In Loma vs. Haney, the battle is about points. The goal is simply to outsmart, outmaneuver, and outpoint the other. Any knockdown or knockout is just a bonus and is unexpected. Yep, that will be the proper term here, going to be very 'technical' match as both their skills because they don't have the power, it's not that they can't produce a knockout, it the right situation presents itself, then maybe they can win via knockout. But most likely, this two loves to pit their style against each other. So it's going to be a back and forth battle in the ring and as you have said, if we see a knockout or knockdown, it's going to be a big bonus for us. And base on the odds, the over and under rounds is 10.5. And the odds for the over round 10.5 is very low at 1.17. So even bookies predicts that this fight might go down the full distance. And the winner will have to go to the judges scorecard. Bookies know it for sure because as you guys have mentioned, both Haney and Loma are not known to be a knockout boxer because they are more known for their technicalities. So, the odds released by the bookies did really make some sense that this fight would likely end in the judge's hand and not by a way of some TKO or KO but who knows, one of them might commit a mistake that will be a reason that the fight will end much earlier than expected. But I'm expecting a tight fight with full of defense and counter attacks.
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April 28, 2023, 09:50:07 PM |
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Haney is probably bigger, but they'll be on the same weight on the day of the fight. So just like the Tank vs. Garcia fight where Garcia was the taller fighter and probably bigger, Tank Davis was still able to find a way to hurt Garcia and knock him out. That was a different match. It was just a matter of time before Davis would land that perfect punch to bring Garcia down, regardless of how tall or big Garcia is. As to Haney and Loma, they both don't have that super powerful punch like Tank's. So this is most probably a fight that ends in a decision. So with a bigger Haney that also has a longer reach, Loma will really have to be quick and make use of his unbelievable footwork to close the distance and score. You bring a good point, in this case Loma is known to have a very good and quick foot work. And that's how we see Loma during the start of his career, unbelievable footwork that no one can match, not even quality Olympians like him in Rigo, who just quit in his stool because he can't cope with Loma's technique. So their style could really be a match made him heaven here. And what we have said, this could be a tactical and a chess match. Unlike to Garcia and Davis fight wherein they rely on their power to win via knockout. This one, the boxing IQ of this boxers will be in display. There could be rounds that Haney is dominating because of his long reach and taking advantage of his height. And then the next round, Loma coming back with his superior movement and hand speeds and then touching Haney at will. So it could go into the distance and gonna be hard to score for sure. Yes, the word here is technical. Both Haney and Loma are technical fighters. So this is a completely different match from Davis vs. Garcia in which a knockout is expected to happen. Both Tank and Garcia are just looking for the perfect timing to knock the opponent down or out. In Loma vs. Haney, the battle is about points. The goal is simply to outsmart, outmaneuver, and outpoint the other. Any knockdown or knockout is just a bonus and is unexpected. Yep, that will be the proper term here, going to be very 'technical' match as both their skills because they don't have the power, it's not that they can't produce a knockout, it the right situation presents itself, then maybe they can win via knockout. But most likely, this two loves to pit their style against each other. So it's going to be a back and forth battle in the ring and as you have said, if we see a knockout or knockdown, it's going to be a big bonus for us. And base on the odds, the over and under rounds is 10.5. And the odds for the over round 10.5 is very low at 1.17. So even bookies predicts that this fight might go down the full distance. And the winner will have to go to the judges scorecard. Bookies know it for sure because as you guys have mentioned, both Haney and Loma are not known to be a knockout boxer because they are more known for their technicalities. So, the odds released by the bookies did really make some sense that this fight would likely end in the judge's hand and not by a way of some TKO or KO but who knows, one of them might commit a mistake that will be a reason that the fight will end much earlier than expected. But I'm expecting a tight fight with full of defense and counter attacks. Both of this guys as we have said is very technical, so I'm not really seeing anyone of them committing mistakes like over extend the punch. Although I would say that Haney has history though of being over aggressive and it might cost him this fight if he do it against Loma. Sort of like he is very confident and could be underestimating the great Loma. Like in his fight against Linares, Haney was almost knockout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpPHztgLTLE. He was lucky that it was the end of the round. And here is Loma against the same boxer getting a flash knock down, but he didn't wobbled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ezsYovJZcU
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April 28, 2023, 11:54:34 PM |
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This is going to be an interesting fight, Devin Haney for me is a master class in reading the rhythm of his opponent and sometimes he will study the habits of his opponent and use that to his advantage and make his jabs effective because of it, Devin Haney will surely study his opponent for sure, and he could also do this to Vasiliy Lomachenco and their upcoming fight, but for sure Vasiliy Lomachenco will expect this and for me Devin Haney is getting ready and anticipating all of the possible moves that Vasiliy Lomachenco will do,
While Vasiliy Lomachenco has incredible footwork to dominate his opponent and he is really misdirecting his opponent and sometimes purposely targeting their eye so he can slip to the other side so that his opponent can not see him strike in there he redirects his opponent's vision and moves to the where is opponent is not facing to punish his opponent even further, so this is going to be an interesting fight of chess every wrong move will be his last,
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April 29, 2023, 12:40:19 PM |
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This is going to be an interesting fight, Devin Haney for me is a master class in reading the rhythm of his opponent and sometimes he will study the habits of his opponent and use that to his advantage and make his jabs effective because of it, Devin Haney will surely study his opponent for sure, and he could also do this to Vasiliy Lomachenco and their upcoming fight, but for sure Vasiliy Lomachenco will expect this and for me Devin Haney is getting ready and anticipating all of the possible moves that Vasiliy Lomachenco will do,
It will still be the skills and the style of this two. He can watch all the tapes of Loma in the past and maybe find some weakness. But we all know how technical Loma is in every fight so it might be a different version of him that is going to appear in this fight. Nevertheless, as you have said, Haney has a good boxing IQ as well so he can adjust in the middle of the fight. While Vasiliy Lomachenco has incredible footwork to dominate his opponent and he is really misdirecting his opponent and sometimes purposely targeting their eye so he can slip to the other side so that his opponent can not see him strike in there he redirects his opponent's vision and moves to the where is opponent is not facing to punish his opponent even further, so this is going to be an interesting fight of chess every wrong move will be his last,
Yes, his foot work is a thing to be hold, in and out and side to side to confuse his opponent. He is also good at misdirecting that's why he can find that very opening and then his opponent is too late to react. So this fight is more than the hype, it could be one of the best technical fights that we are going to see this year.
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April 29, 2023, 08:30:53 PM |
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This is going to be an interesting fight, Devin Haney for me is a master class in reading the rhythm of his opponent and sometimes he will study the habits of his opponent and use that to his advantage and make his jabs effective because of it, Devin Haney will surely study his opponent for sure, and he could also do this to Vasiliy Lomachenco and their upcoming fight, but for sure Vasiliy Lomachenco will expect this and for me Devin Haney is getting ready and anticipating all of the possible moves that Vasiliy Lomachenco will do,
It will still be the skills and the style of this two. He can watch all the tapes of Loma in the past and maybe find some weakness. But we all know how technical Loma is in every fight so it might be a different version of him that is going to appear in this fight. Nevertheless, as you have said, Haney has a good boxing IQ as well so he can adjust in the middle of the fight. Both boxers are already expecting that they have been studied well by watching each other's recent bouts, but definitely nobody is underestimating somebody here because if one of them does that, that will be an expensive mistake that they might regret soon as both boxers probably knew how talented they are. Let's expect that they will have a slow start and will take their time reading and observing each other's movement first before they commence on their respective plans.
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May 01, 2023, 11:35:09 AM |
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The odd for Lomachenko is nice, 3.05x on Stake! I don't think it's a one-sided fight that deserves such odd btw, so I'm with Loma ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) He still can win this even though he's getting old. IIRC De La Hoya was retired by Pacman at 35, but fitness-wise, Loma is in much better shape. If Loma can be at 100%, I think he'll beat Haney with no problem. Loma is weak versus powerful fighter because he is small, but he will be fine versus a technical boxer.
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The odd for Lomachenko is nice, 3.05x on Stake! I don't think it's a one-sided fight that deserves such odd btw, so I'm with Loma ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) He still can win this even though he's getting old. IIRC De La Hoya was retired by Pacman at 35, but fitness-wise, Loma is in much better shape. If Loma can be at 100%, I think he'll beat Haney with no problem. Loma is weak versus powerful fighter because he is small, but he will be fine versus a technical boxer. Hard to compare though Pacman vs Dela Hoya, Oscar un-retired and fought Pacman at a catchweight of 145 lbs. Oscar hasn't fought at that weight for many years and so he likes a zombie against Manny in the ring. And so it was a mismatch on the part of Pacman as he dominated a old and slow Oscar that really put his name on top of the boxing world. But this version of Loma, even at 35 years old can still pull the trigger. Yeah, I know based on his last performance, he seems to be out of shape but there could be reasons there. But in this fight, he might just flip the bulb and be the old Loma himself against a young and very talented fighter in Devin Haney. So yeah, the odds might not do justice and for those who loves the underdog, this is their chance with that 3.05x or even higher at some crypto based casinos.
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The odd for Lomachenko is nice, 3.05x on Stake! I don't think it's a one-sided fight that deserves such odd btw, so I'm with Loma ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) He still can win this even though he's getting old. IIRC De La Hoya was retired by Pacman at 35, but fitness-wise, Loma is in much better shape. If Loma can be at 100%, I think he'll beat Haney with no problem. Loma is weak versus powerful fighter because he is small, but he will be fine versus a technical boxer. Hard to compare though Pacman vs Dela Hoya, Oscar un-retired and fought Pacman at a catchweight of 145 lbs. Oscar hasn't fought at that weight for many years and so he likes a zombie against Manny in the ring. And so it was a mismatch on the part of Pacman as he dominated a old and slow Oscar that really put his name on top of the boxing world. But this version of Loma, even at 35 years old can still pull the trigger. Yeah, I know based on his last performance, he seems to be out of shape but there could be reasons there. But in this fight, he might just flip the bulb and be the old Loma himself against a young and very talented fighter in Devin Haney. So yeah, the odds might not do justice and for those who loves the underdog, this is their chance with that 3.05x or even higher at some crypto based casinos. I surely hope that that was really the case at that time because it is indeed hard to believe that Lomachenko's career is already at sunset now just because he had a short inactivity because of the war. He pretty much had a choice to fight again and try to reclaim the belts that he had lost but he didn't do it because his country needs him more, and that war might be one of the few reasons why he was not performing well in his return. In this bout, we will have our questions answered.
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May 05, 2023, 08:32:44 AM |
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Bumping this thread. Don't forget, guys, the fight will be less than three weeks from now.
This fight will change the future of both boxers. If Devin Haney wins, then I guess it will prove that Vasiliy Lomachenko is already past his prime. Since he is already 35 years old now, perhaps he will consider retiring early. As for Vasiliy Lomachenko, if the outcome favors him, then his success will continue, while Devin Haney might move to another division. Many fighters would probably be interested in fighting him since he will no longer be undefeated.
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May 05, 2023, 11:01:39 AM |
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Bumping this thread. Don't forget, guys, the fight will be less than three weeks from now.
This fight will change the future of both boxers. If Devin Haney wins, then I guess it will prove that Vasiliy Lomachenko is already past his prime. Since he is already 35 years old now, perhaps he will consider retiring early. As for Vasiliy Lomachenko, if the outcome favors him, then his success will continue, while Devin Haney might move to another division. Many fighters would probably be interested in fighting him since he will no longer be undefeated.
Yes, it's going to be a crossroad fight for Loma, and as he said in the past, his dream is to unify the belt in 135 lbs. He has a chance before, when he fought Teo Lopez but he got injured and then a lot of things happen after that, (Teo lost the belt, war in his Ukraine, his road to recovery beating Nakatani etc). And now the stage is set for this big fight, Devin Haney is fresh and young and now the unified champion and the favorite on this fight. So I do agree that if he lost here, he might go up in weight. And if he wins, maybe chase a fight with Shakur or even Tank Davis at this weight class.
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May 05, 2023, 12:26:48 PM |
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I sure do hope that we will still see the old Loma, so that he can give Haney a good fight and might dethrone him from being the undisputed champion in this division. But if not, I'm confident to say that it will be like a walk in the park Devin Haney.
I think we all are rooting for the same thing though, I guess not for Loma to defeat Haney, but at least he should be able to give the current undisputed champion an interesting fight, which is the latter. Especially the people, us, which asked for this fight because we totally believed that Lomachenko himself deserved a shot as that shoulder injury he had was the reason why he lost that 3 belt he held once. I guess it’s hard to believe that Haney will eventually lose to Loma, as his performance can really tell it all. However, if the old Loma’s boxing myth will be seen back in the ring, that would mean a very challenging fight for Haney, and a very exciting and interesting fight for the audience. Haney could be the crowd’s favorite and it’s an obvious fact, but who knows if Loma will surprise us with his best shots and give Haney the best blows ever.
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I sure do hope that we will still see the old Loma, so that he can give Haney a good fight and might dethrone him from being the undisputed champion in this division. But if not, I'm confident to say that it will be like a walk in the park Devin Haney.
I think we all are rooting for the same thing though, I guess not for Loma to defeat Haney, but at least he should be able to give the current undisputed champion an interesting fight, which is the latter. Especially the people, us, which asked for this fight because we totally believed that Lomachenko himself deserved a shot as that shoulder injury he had was the reason why he lost that 3 belt he held once. I guess it’s hard to believe that Haney will eventually lose to Loma, as his performance can really tell it all. However, if the old Loma’s boxing myth will be seen back in the ring, that would mean a very challenging fight for Haney, and a very exciting and interesting fight for the audience. Haney could be the crowd’s favorite and it’s an obvious fact, but who knows if Loma will surprise us with his best shots and give Haney the best blows ever. Upsets happen in boxing, so it's not hard to believe that Haney could lose. He may be the favorite in this fight, but that doesn't mean he cannot lose. The likelihood of Haney winning the fight is probably high, based on the bookies and some experts, but we will only find out if that's true once the fight is over. For now, if we want to enjoy, we should place our bets already.
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May 05, 2023, 05:17:45 PM |
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I sure do hope that we will still see the old Loma, so that he can give Haney a good fight and might dethrone him from being the undisputed champion in this division. But if not, I'm confident to say that it will be like a walk in the park Devin Haney.
I think we all are rooting for the same thing though, I guess not for Loma to defeat Haney, but at least he should be able to give the current undisputed champion an interesting fight, which is the latter. Especially the people, us, which asked for this fight because we totally believed that Lomachenko himself deserved a shot as that shoulder injury he had was the reason why he lost that 3 belt he held once. I guess it’s hard to believe that Haney will eventually lose to Loma, as his performance can really tell it all. However, if the old Loma’s boxing myth will be seen back in the ring, that would mean a very challenging fight for Haney, and a very exciting and interesting fight for the audience. Haney could be the crowd’s favorite and it’s an obvious fact, but who knows if Loma will surprise us with his best shots and give Haney the best blows ever. Upsets happen in boxing, so it's not hard to believe that Haney could lose. He may be the favorite in this fight, but that doesn't mean he cannot lose. The likelihood of Haney winning the fight is probably high, based on the bookies and some experts, but we will only find out if that's true once the fight is over. For now, if we want to enjoy, we should place our bets already. Well said. I know Devin Haney is a brilliant boxer that is why he attained such feat to be the undisputed boxer in the lightweight division and even defended it once from George Kambosos but he probably knows too that this time, his status will be tested by a man who would've been the undisputed boxer if it's not because of his injury which resulted to a loss and then the war which made him inactive for quite some time. And this bout will be Devin Haney's first ever title defense since he held his title because I don't count that rematch against Kambosos as that was already a one-sided fight.
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May 05, 2023, 08:51:39 PM |
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This is going to be an interesting fight, Devin Haney for me is a master class in reading the rhythm of his opponent and sometimes he will study the habits of his opponent and use that to his advantage and make his jabs effective because of it, Devin Haney will surely study his opponent for sure, and he could also do this to Vasiliy Lomachenco and their upcoming fight, but for sure Vasiliy Lomachenco will expect this and for me Devin Haney is getting ready and anticipating all of the possible moves that Vasiliy Lomachenco will do,
It will still be the skills and the style of this two. He can watch all the tapes of Loma in the past and maybe find some weakness. But we all know how technical Loma is in every fight so it might be a different version of him that is going to appear in this fight. Nevertheless, as you have said, Haney has a good boxing IQ as well so he can adjust in the middle of the fight. Both boxers are already expecting that they have been studied well by watching each other's recent bouts, but definitely nobody is underestimating somebody here because if one of them does that, that will be an expensive mistake that they might regret soon as both boxers probably knew how talented they are. Let's expect that they will have a slow start and will take their time reading and observing each other's movement first before they commence on their respective plans. Both is known to be a slow starter, unless they really found a loophole in the defense and take advantage of it. Both have high IQ so chess game in the beginning until someone has open up and the others taking that opening and maybe score a knock down. So this is going to be high level match and it's really hard to predict the outcome although Haney is the favorite to win in this fight based on the odds of sports bookies. But Loma is still Loma though, again one of the best technical boxers we have seen so maybe he still has something inside of him in this fight. Just couple of weeks and for sure after the Davis vs Garcia, we are waiting for this because the winner could be fighting Tank Davis.
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I happen to read an intriguing article about Devin Haney and Vasily Lomachenko. I read that Devin Haney is labeling Vasily Lomachenko as skilled but a dirty fighter. “A dirty fight,” said Haney to a group of reporters when asked what he expects come fight night. “He is a dirty fighter.” I do not know what is the basis of Haney saying Lomachenko is a dirty fighter. We have seen Loma's fight and we had not seen him use dirty antiques to take advantage of his opponent. I believe the statement is just created to make audience interested and put more heat on the fire. Here is the complete detail of the said article: https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-rips-lomachenko-views-him-skilled-dirty-fighter--174337#Both is known to be a slow starter, unless they really found a loophole in the defense and take advantage of it. Both have high IQ so chess game in the beginning until someone has open up and the others taking that opening and maybe score a knock down.
So this is going to be high level match and it's really hard to predict the outcome although Haney is the favorite to win in this fight based on the odds of sports bookies. But Loma is still Loma though, again one of the best technical boxers we have seen so maybe he still has something inside of him in this fight. Just couple of weeks and for sure after the Davis vs Garcia, we are waiting for this because the winner could be fighting Tank Davis.
Obviously Devin Haney with the defensive style will start slow and even end slow because he relies on his defensive stance and counter punches. Most of the time, Devin Haney don't initiate the contact due to his defensive stance, we can surely see jabs but rarely we see Devin Haney take initiatives during fight. I wonder if he will do the same in this fight.
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It will still be the skills and the style of this two. He can watch all the tapes of Loma in the past and maybe find some weakness. But we all know how technical Loma is in every fight so it might be a different version of him that is going to appear in this fight. Nevertheless, as you have said, Haney has a good boxing IQ as well so he can adjust in the middle of the fight.
What if Devin Haney can be faster than Vasyl Lomachenko, Maybe Haney can overcome that footwork, but if he is then this is dangerous for Vasyl Lomachenko, for sure but if Vasyl Lomachenko is faster than him then Devin Haney will need to rely on his fight IQ for this fight for sure but this fight will be like a game of check just like in the poster wrong move and you are done, Yes, his foot work is a thing to be hold, in and out and side to side to confuse his opponent. He is also good at misdirecting that's why he can find that very opening and then his opponent is too late to react. So this fight is more than the hype, it could be one of the best technical fights that we are going to see this year.
Vasyl Lomachenko had the crazy speed for Devin Haney to overcome it he needs to be faster, than Lomachenko but indeed that is really a hard thing to do because a boxer would need to go deep into training carrying weight while doing laps to make them faster, which is hard to do, but there is a possibility, for this fight it is really on the hype now and is much awaited in my opinion than the Canelo VS Ryder fight,
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