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June 24, 2025, 02:31:25 PM
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The main problem with Gatusso is not what he is gonna do now with the team and maybe he do a decent job and bring some good results and some fresh air to the team and imprengate them with some fire, but in the long run i cant see him making a good team who can fight against the powers....

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June 24, 2025, 03:20:40 PM
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The main problem with Gatusso is not what he is gonna do now with the team and maybe he do a decent job and bring some good results and some fresh air to the team and imprengate them with some fire, but in the long run i cant see him making a good team who can fight against the powers....

Things are not going to get any easier for Gennaro Gattuso. At the moment, it is not clear whether Italy can secure top-2 position in Group I. They have plenty of matches remaining, but Norway is far ahead of anyone else in that group. And then there is Israel, who are performing really well this time. Falling behind Israel is a remote, but possible scenario. Overall, the morale might be down after their crushing defeat to Norway (by a margin of 0-3). Gattuso has a lot of rebuilding to do.


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June 24, 2025, 07:19:15 PM
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The main problem with Gatusso is not what he is gonna do now with the team and maybe he do a decent job and bring some good results and some fresh air to the team and imprengate them with some fire, but in the long run i cant see him making a good team who can fight against the powers....
The job of a national team coach is to call the best available players. If the best available players are very average then it's going to be almost impossible to win against teams that are way better. Sure, football is unpredictable and everything is possible but oftentimes the strong team beats the weak team, that's it. I don't understand why some users are kind of expecting some miracle from Gattuso...

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June 25, 2025, 04:58:52 AM
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Maybe, they haven't found yet their coach that will be a game-changer for the team. Though we don't know when will it come for the team, I would say, the players should work on how to improve their performance inside the field. It may be their motivation as to how they can show their best foot forward while playing. Sometimes, it would take just one gesture from one of the athletes, and everyone will follow thru. An inspiration for the whole team can change their path to show their best. Maybe, they haven't found that one yet.

The average player who plays at the world cup level is highly motivated, who doesn't want the world cup? Especially a team like Italy who has won the world cup 4 times, surely in the minds of the players they really want to repeat the glory days of their national team. But it's not an easy thing, not just changing the coach or just motivating the players can turn things around - they need more than that, tactics, mentality, and the quality of individual players, those are the important things needed by the Italian national team right now because they are still very lacking in these three things.

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The average player who plays at the world cup level is highly motivated, who doesn't want the world cup? Especially a team like Italy who has won the world cup 4 times, surely in the minds of the players they really want to repeat the glory days of their national team. But it's not an easy thing, not just changing the coach or just motivating the players can turn things around - they need more than that, tactics, mentality, and the quality of individual players, those are the important things needed by the Italian national team right now because they are still very lacking in these three things.

That depends. Even last time, during the 2022 Qatar World Cup, some of the powerful clubs were refusing to release the players initially. Times have changed. Playing for the national team during the World Cup is no longer one of the most cherished ambitions for many of the players.  Clubs are providing them with insane salaries, and obviously the loyalty will be towards the club rather than towards the national team. When Italy failed to qualify for the 2022 edition, I noticed that the players were not that upset.

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And what goals did he achieve?
Palermo - sacked!
Pisa - sacked!
Napoli - sacked!
Valencia - sacked!
Marseille - sacked!
Special mention that in one of his few tries, when he managed to stay for more than half a season without getting kicked out, was when he managed to cling to his seat at AC Milan, where he finished 6th and then 5th.
He hasn't achieved anything, and with how the Italian team looks right now, prepare for more disappointments!
I think the decision to appoint Gattuso as the Italian national team coach is a huge gamble given his records in his coaching career. I don’t think he is the right candidate to take on this job especially with a struggling team where he would need to revive the  team and their performance. This decision must have been made in a bid to honor him but I sense disaster.

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He won the world championship, winning a world championship is no small thing.
He also faced very serious health problems, yet with all the health problems he achieved his goals, that is, he continues to train.
i am not saying he's a great coach, i said he has an iron will, that's very different.

He has won it with a team and a coach, not on his own!
Sorry, but I don't like Gattuso at all, not as a player not as a coach, and this comes from an ex Milan fan that grew up with Rijkaard, van Basten and Ruud, I never liked his style, some thought of him as a fighter I always tought he is an uncontralable tornado that was hitting his adversaries as much as the ball.
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Currently the Italian national team is filled with mediocre players, there are no outstanding players, unlike their era in the 2000s. So it is very difficult to be able to revive the Italian national team now, even when it is the most experienced coach, because as you said the role of quality players is very important, and then we discuss the manager. Because now the problem of the Italian national team is very complex, so changing the coach alone will not be able to solve the problem, there needs to be a total overhaul from the roots of the Italian football system, and the process can take years.
Seems the days of Italian domination in football has quietly faded away  because these days it is so hard to get qualification to compete in global tournaments. With the current squad we can only hope they can still secure world cup qualification but they are not even topping their group ao it is hard to tell if they will.

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The main problem with Gatusso is not what he is gonna do now with the team and maybe he do a decent job and bring some good results and some fresh air to the team and imprengate them with some fire, but in the long run i cant see him making a good team who can fight against the powers....

I'm also not very optimistic about Gatusso being chosen as Italy's national coach, but I've seen some cases of rookie coaches who won big leagues even without having a great history of achievements in the past, so maybe Gatusso can surprise us. The guy has a more aggressive behavior and knows the players well and how the entire logistics of the Italian national team works, from the call-up of the players to the smallest details. Also, because he was a player for the Italian national team, the players will have more respect.

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June 25, 2025, 03:51:51 PM
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The main problem with Gatusso is not what he is gonna do now with the team and maybe he do a decent job and bring some good results and some fresh air to the team and imprengate them with some fire, but in the long run i cant see him making a good team who can fight against the powers....
The job of a national team coach is to call the best available players. If the best available players are very average then it's going to be almost impossible to win against teams that are way better. Sure, football is unpredictable and everything is possible but oftentimes the strong team beats the weak team, that's it. I don't understand why some users are kind of expecting some miracle from Gattuso...

Yes i know he doesnt have the best raw matterial, i dont know what is happening with youth italians and why the teams cant develop new gems.

Is the youth not playing so much football this days?

Even the new ""italians""(inmigrants) are not good at all comparing with other european countrys so i find is a problem in how the teams are developing the youths.

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I kind of disagree with that part because at the end of the day the manager doesn't play, the players do. You can be the best manager in the world but if the players are mediocre probably you're going to fail. Italy could even hire Guardiola (hypothetically of course) but that wouldn't mean that we're going to the world cup. Do you remember Ancelotti with Napoli and Everton? Great coach, mediocre players, mediocre results.

Currently the Italian national team is filled with mediocre players, there are no outstanding players, unlike their era in the 2000s. So it is very difficult to be able to revive the Italian national team now, even when it is the most experienced coach, because as you said the role of quality players is very important, and then we discuss the manager. Because now the problem of the Italian national team is very complex, so changing the coach alone will not be able to solve the problem, there needs to be a total overhaul from the roots of the Italian football system, and the process can take years.
Italy has won the World Cup four times but if we look at the current Italian team, it doesn't look like they have won four World Cups. Italy's golden age can be said to have been until 2000 because Italy played excellent football until 2000 but Italy could not achieve anything significant after 2000. In one World Cup season, Italy did not qualify for the main round of the World Cup. Think about it, a former four-time World Cup winner performed so badly in one World Cup season that they did not qualify for the main round. Anyway, Italy has recovered from their bad situation and now at least they are playing decent football but they are not yet able to play the kind of good football that we can see them playing in the semi-finals or finals of big tournaments like the World Cup. Italy should work on these issues and bring about a change in the team's situation again.

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June 26, 2025, 02:42:10 PM
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Italy has won the World Cup four times but if we look at the current Italian team, it doesn't look like they have won four World Cups. Italy's golden age can be said to have been until 2000 because Italy played excellent football until 2000 but Italy could not achieve anything significant after 2000. In one World Cup season, Italy did not qualify for the main round of the World Cup. Think about it, a former four-time World Cup winner performed so badly in one World Cup season that they did not qualify for the main round. Anyway, Italy has recovered from their bad situation and now at least they are playing decent football but they are not yet able to play the kind of good football that we can see them playing in the semi-finals or finals of big tournaments like the World Cup. Italy should work on these issues and bring about a change in the team's situation again.

look i tell you that you are right with regret, we are really in bad shape. It is not just a question of coach, the players are poor and the management is also very poor.
I can't change and fix things, that's the worst thing. For real, we miss 4 world championship

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Palmeiras almost lost in their match against Inter Miami. It seems that the team has forgotten how to play football. What was the mistake of leaving the defense extremely open after the first goal in the first half? The team seemed to be mentally shaken by the presence of Messi and Suarez (who scored an impeccable goal in this match, considering his physical limitations and age).

Flagemgo and Botafogo are two other brazilian clubs to watch out for. Brazilian teams are unpredictable in competitions like these.

Today we will have a good tournament between Juventus and City, pure entertainment.

Man, i think you are confused, this is not the thread for the World Club tournament is for the World Cup the normal one, the national teams one.

The thread for the Clubs are others  Grin

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Currently the Italian national team is filled with mediocre players, there are no outstanding players, unlike their era in the 2000s. So it is very difficult to be able to revive the Italian national team now, even when it is the most experienced coach, because as you said the role of quality players is very important, and then we discuss the manager. Because now the problem of the Italian national team is very complex, so changing the coach alone will not be able to solve the problem, there needs to be a total overhaul from the roots of the Italian football system, and the process can take years.
Seems the days of Italian domination in football has quietly faded away  because these days it is so hard to get qualification to compete in global tournaments. With the current squad we can only hope they can still secure world cup qualification but they are not even topping their group ao it is hard to tell if they will.

Their dominance was increasingly lost due to their own mistakes - even though they had risen and won EURO 2020, and at that time they were in a very on-fire position - but in just a few months everything changed drastically, the Italian national team seemed to have lost its identity and strength. They relied too much on a few core players, and underestimated regeneration, especially in their striker section, none of them stood out, on average they were ordinary players.. and that made their game more blunt. They also seemed unable to adapt, and seemed "overconfident" after the EURO 2020 victory. We can see that they were like being "poisoned" by their achievements, and to detoxify that from their team might take longer, so there is no need to expect too much from this team.

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June 29, 2025, 11:09:58 PM
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I kind of disagree with that part because at the end of the day the manager doesn't play, the players do. You can be the best manager in the world but if the players are mediocre probably you're going to fail. Italy could even hire Guardiola (hypothetically of course) but that wouldn't mean that we're going to the world cup. Do you remember Ancelotti with Napoli and Everton? Great coach, mediocre players, mediocre results.

Currently the Italian national team is filled with mediocre players, there are no outstanding players, unlike their era in the 2000s. So it is very difficult to be able to revive the Italian national team now, even when it is the most experienced coach, because as you said the role of quality players is very important, and then we discuss the manager. Because now the problem of the Italian national team is very complex, so changing the coach alone will not be able to solve the problem, there needs to be a total overhaul from the roots of the Italian football system, and the process can take years.
Italy has won the World Cup four times but if we look at the current Italian team, it doesn't look like they have won four World Cups. Italy's golden age can be said to have been until 2000 because Italy played excellent football until 2000 but Italy could not achieve anything significant after 2000. In one World Cup season, Italy did not qualify for the main round of the World Cup. Think about it, a former four-time World Cup winner performed so badly in one World Cup season that they did not qualify for the main round. Anyway, Italy has recovered from their bad situation and now at least they are playing decent football but they are not yet able to play the kind of good football that we can see them playing in the semi-finals or finals of big tournaments like the World Cup. Italy should work on these issues and bring about a change in the team's situation again.
Italy football team played last match against Moldova football team. That was match in the side of Italy team because that team did 2 goals in this match. No double, team of Italy is not impressive but they still won the match against Moldova football team. The players of Italy football team performed very well and they gave hundred percent to win this match. The shots of Italy football team were more in number and these were 28 and 7 shots were on target and that team was dominant in this match because opponent team could not do any goal in this match.The possession percentage of that team was very excellent in this match and that was 66 percent in this match and passes of that team were also more in this match.











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The main problem with Gatusso is not what he is gonna do now with the team and maybe he do a decent job and bring some good results and some fresh air to the team and imprengate them with some fire, but in the long run i cant see him making a good team who can fight against the powers....
The job of a national team coach is to call the best available players. If the best available players are very average then it's going to be almost impossible to win against teams that are way better. Sure, football is unpredictable and everything is possible but oftentimes the strong team beats the weak team, that's it. I don't understand why some users are kind of expecting some miracle from Gattuso...
Yes i know he doesnt have the best raw matterial, i dont know what is happening with youth italians and why the teams cant develop new gems.

Is the youth not playing so much football this days?

Even the new ""italians""(inmigrants) are not good at all comparing with other european countrys so i find is a problem in how the teams are developing the youths.
Italy unfortunately is not a country for young people, including young players. I don't know why but many managers are scared to play with young players. For sure something that many of us noticed is that in the youth teams many managers give priority to physical players rather than technical ones because they want to win immediately and get some spotlights, but of course in the long run you're penalizing the actual good players. We have a lot of work to do, the passion is always there, the mentality is the problem.

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Italy football team played last match against Moldova football team. That was match in the side of Italy team because that team did 2 goals in this match. No double, team of Italy is not impressive but they still won the match against Moldova football team. The players of Italy football team performed very well and they gave hundred percent to win this match. The shots of Italy football team were more in number and these were 28 and 7 shots were on target and that team was dominant in this match because opponent team could not do any goal in this match.The possession percentage of that team was very excellent in this match and that was 66 percent in this match and passes of that team were also more in this match.
The truth is it's a very good thing, because I hadn't seen the Italian team in its first, in fact for me the Italians have had problems in their football lately, I want to see Italy in the World Cup, there are already 2 World Cups that they haven't gone to, and well it's not the same, the Italian team always fills you with hope and is a clear candidate to always win the World Cup, they have to continue with that level, now football is much tougher, but they are capable of doing such a thing.

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June 30, 2025, 01:25:26 AM
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Italy football team played last match against Moldova football team. That was match in the side of Italy team because that team did 2 goals in this match. No double, team of Italy is not impressive but they still won the match against Moldova football team. The players of Italy football team performed very well and they gave hundred percent to win this match. The shots of Italy football team were more in number and these were 28 and 7 shots were on target and that team was dominant in this match because opponent team could not do any goal in this match.The possession percentage of that team was very excellent in this match and that was 66 percent in this match and passes of that team were also more in this match.
The truth is it's a very good thing, because I hadn't seen the Italian team in its first, in fact for me the Italians have had problems in their football lately, I want to see Italy in the World Cup, there are already 2 World Cups that they haven't gone to, and well it's not the same, the Italian team always fills you with hope and is a clear candidate to always win the World Cup, they have to continue with that level, now football is much tougher, but they are capable of doing such a thing.

Well gone are good old days when you get to see the likes of Andrea pirlo, Francesco totti. Del peiro and so many great Italian players fill up that team squad and deliver an exquisite performance for you. The Italian national team have since not being able to deliver that top notch game and have struggled over the years to build up such team which is the key to a nation retaining it's dominance in world football and it's not only them as the Germans, Brazilians and so many more all are suffering from this.

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The main problem with Gatusso is not what he is gonna do now with the team and maybe he do a decent job and bring some good results and some fresh air to the team and imprengate them with some fire, but in the long run i cant see him making a good team who can fight against the powers....
The Italian national team does not have as good players as before. Now the players need to watch and win every match to qualify for the World Cup. They need to remember the heavy defeat against Norway. They need to prepare accordingly and win all the remaining matches to qualify for the tournament. It will be a tough test for Gattuso. He needs to pass this test and take Italy to the tournament.

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June 30, 2025, 05:08:42 PM
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The main problem with Gatusso is not what he is gonna do now with the team and maybe he do a decent job and bring some good results and some fresh air to the team and imprengate them with some fire, but in the long run i cant see him making a good team who can fight against the powers....
The Italian national team does not have as good players as before. Now the players need to watch and win every match to qualify for the World Cup. They need to remember the heavy defeat against Norway. They need to prepare accordingly and win all the remaining matches to qualify for the tournament. It will be a tough test for Gattuso. He needs to pass this test and take Italy to the tournament.
Mixed expectations from the new coach Gattuso whole situation is also not balanced because their performance is also not good specially after having humiliating defeat against Norway things are getting worst while their performance against bottom side Moldova was also not good.

Things are still favourable because coming game against Estonia can increase their confidence which is important for having good results in coming games they already lost two-time FIFA World Cup now having third is surely going to be worse, but they need to avail their chances and have won in remaining games. Gattuso is having not good history but still he can turn the tables and bring Italian soccer on good level for future because this is surely big gamble with fewer chances of win, but they can this it's challenging.

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