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December 29, 2022, 08:43:36 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

20%? You are joking? This is a huge risk. It has long been known that the correct risk management says that you need to allocate MAXIMUM 2% of the deposit for a trade, no more. Only under such conditions can we count on long-term success. I did not come to this right away, I also started with a high risk of 25%, but over time I realized that the lower the risk, the more stable the trade. At the end of my activity, my risk was in the range of 1,36-1,66% of my deposit.
Basing on my understanding, he might talking into that investment allocation which 80% should be on holding and 20% of those funds would be allocated for trading and this isnt really that 100% of trading capital he's been talking which it is really true that putting 20% is a huge risks.(I dont know if im correct) but this is really basing on my understanding.
Holding or trading then it would really be depending on someones choice because there are people who cant really just wait for long time without doing something or simply there are people who
do accept out the risk and this is why they've decided to make out some trades rather than on making themselves do sit and wait.

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December 29, 2022, 08:44:19 PM
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I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run.
Seriously I can't really forget 2020, around April 2020, Bitcoin price was down, I was able to accumulate some bitcoin, but I didn't have enough money so I was not satisfied with amount of bitcoin I was holding, but before the year runs out, Bitcoin started pumping. I was regretting because I was not having much bitcoin in my wallet, have being looking for opportunity to accumulate more bitcoin, Since we entered the bear market have being accumulating more bitcoin.

Am always shaking my head and laughing whenever I see people complaining about the bear market, some people even sell their bitcoin, they don't know that this is buying opportunity, this is the right time to accumulate more bitcoin, I don't want to regret that I haven't accumulated enough bitcoin in the next bull run, any extra money am having am investing it in bitcoin.

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December 29, 2022, 08:45:02 PM
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I have also watched the analysis of Mark Moss about having no bull run anymore and that the last was last year. Quite crazy to think in my opinion because the amount of BTC is just too few and the halving will always trigger the market rally.

If you buy at the current price the better for you to be holding on to it. Somehow spot trading in the bull market is always a good idea but not in the bear market.
And who is this mark moss? Another fudder in BTC? Hmm. The amount of BTC isn't few but there are over 19m BTC that have been mined. If you mean the price then yes it is low right now compared to its last ATH.

A lot are saying that halving event can cause the price to rise. I do believe on that but I also believe that it's not only about the halving. BTC can rise randomly, especially if there is some unexpected positive event that happened like some country adopts BTC or some whales/large companies bought a huge load of BTC. We are currently in a bear so buying now still guarantees a profit even only at a small recovery. Hodling longer can be optional.

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December 29, 2022, 08:56:51 PM
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Permit me to say this is crypto imperialism, lol. You sound as if you are trying to force your own idea on people who prefer to trade. The truth is that everyone has its own way of making profits. If yours is by holding then that's fine and let those who choose to trade be. Holding can be beneficial if you are patient enough because it takes long time but trading will you a reason to smile or cry in a jiffy.
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December 29, 2022, 08:59:09 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
50% can already be a good amount to deal with their trading, they are still newbie which is more prone to error and emotional trades so better not to go all in. Holding is still advisable because this can save your from losing that much and you can’t succeed on trading as a newbie so better not to expect too much. Trading will always takes time and this is not an overnight success, usually it took years depends on how serious you are to learn how to trade properly.
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Since I was in here and taking the risk, I'd use 100% of the funds to trade as a trader. Why we should hold if the purpose of being here is to trade? We can never call ourselves if we are doing that (holding). Of course, it doesn't mean that we use the entire amount in a single trade, you'll somehow hold some for the next trade.

The only thing that I could say is that - make use of all of your money if you wanted to enjoy as a trader otherwise, you are not a trader but rather call yourselves a holder. And if ever you fail, then have no option but to stop trading and just go to holding as a normal investor does.
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December 29, 2022, 09:28:25 PM
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Permit me to say this is crypto imperialism, lol. You sound as if you are trying to force your own idea on people who prefer to trade. The truth is that everyone has its own way of making profits. If yours is by holding then that's fine and let those who choose to trade be. Holding can be beneficial if you are patient enough because it takes long time but trading will you a reason to smile or cry in a jiffy.
OP is just reminding the newbies to take things slower and there is no need to rush here in the market, if you can’t still trade properly since you are still a newbie then you can just hold and diversified your crypto. No one is stopping you to trade with your money, but the data says that many newbies are suffering from a big losses on their first trades, so to avoid that better to limit first your capital for trading and just increase it over time.

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December 29, 2022, 09:48:29 PM
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Trading is matter of calculation and when you calculate wrongly and lose,is when you will know that  any person who wants s a trader supposed to know that in trading you are suppose to trade on what you can afford to lose, and some of the traders now doesn't knowns exactly what to do when they lose their another of investment funds, that is why when they lose their money they do be in sober, so your comment from the beginning is nice doe everyone not particularly a newbies only
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December 29, 2022, 09:55:55 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.

All people not only newbies must understand about this. This is one of the basic things to always have when getting investment, Always invest only the amount that we can afford to loose.

Holding may be better moreover for those who are not good in trading and who are still new in trading or crypto. but, it is important to understand what crypto to hold. For, not all cryptos are valuable for holding. we have seen how many shit cryptos that are ended to be dead cryptos. So here, Only hold Bitcoin that has trust, value, and also journey.

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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.

All people not only newbies must understand about this. This is one of the basic things to always have when getting investment, Always invest only the amount that we can afford to loose.

Holding may be better moreover for those who are not good in trading and who are still new in trading or crypto. but, it is important to understand what crypto to hold. For, not all cryptos are valuable for holding. we have seen how many shit cryptos that are ended to be dead cryptos. So here, Only hold Bitcoin that has trust, value, and also journey.
It would be more sensible and much more wiser if we do make out that kind of decision on which Bitcoin is something that should be mainly hold off and some top ranking coins that we do have the market.
Really had to ignore nor deny that there are also good projects which is really worth for you to invest or hold on and its true that holding isnt something just for those people who do lack skills and knowledge
but rather it is really something that wise to be done if you arent that sure on what you should gonna do.Its up to someones choice and yet its our money that had been invested
then you do know on how you would be handling yourself.

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December 30, 2022, 12:01:07 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
20% seems like the maximum amount of money a newbie trader should use when they are testing the waters, that amount of money should be enough to let them know if their strategy works or not, and if they can make money trading the markets then they could always use a bigger share of their capital to multiply their profits, but if they fail, and we need to be honest the majority of them will fail, then they can keep most of their capital intact and recover it during the next bull run by simply holding their coins.
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December 30, 2022, 06:10:54 AM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
It was better if they don't continue and stop trading until such time that he gains more knowledge and skills. We don't have to urge ourselves to become a trader if we actually just suffering losses because it only affects our goals and strategies. The more we trade with loss, the more it bothered us how to recover those losses until getting out of our minds and lose control of our emotions. I don't think we have to reach that far before we realized, it is better to stop and proceed to hold all of our funds to have a safe play.
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December 30, 2022, 12:34:17 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
I can say that holding is more profitable than any other method, and now is still a good time to keep adding bitcoins to our bag. Any percentage 20% 80% or 100% if it is applied to Bitcoin then holding it longer will give more profit and safer, and I feel long term holders have peace of mind compared to day trades

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December 30, 2022, 01:09:35 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
I can say that holding is more profitable than any other method, and now is still a good time to keep adding bitcoins to our bag. Any percentage 20% 80% or 100% if it is applied to Bitcoin then holding it longer will give more profit and safer, and I feel long term holders have peace of mind compared to day trades
Trading seems another way to earn a profit every day if possible but in the situation that OP has presented to us, I don't think it is a need to pursue our trading carrier if we only just lose our money. From that situation, we never have a better option than just HOLD. You can add more if you want but trading more, that was not a perfect idea, it wil just leads us to spend all our money on nothing. I think we can't afford to do that rather than stop our imagination to become rich in trading.

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December 30, 2022, 03:14:58 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
I can say that holding is more profitable than any other method, and now is still a good time to keep adding bitcoins to our bag. Any percentage 20% 80% or 100% if it is applied to Bitcoin then holding it longer will give more profit and safer, and I feel long term holders have peace of mind compared to day trades

Trading is the most profitable; let's just say you will win 1% per day and it will accumulate, but again, the cons are that it is not safer than holding a bitcoin and is not stress-free (unless you keep checking the price). This really depends on the person since some prefer trading and some want to hold. I do most of my trading when I have free time, and I also have bitcoin in my wallet to hold since I treat holding it as a savings in case I need it in the future.
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December 30, 2022, 03:52:42 PM
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I concur that investing and saving whatever amount you may comfortably manage without it having an impact on your bills Buy some bitcoins rather than spending $3 per day on Starbucks or a snack. $30 each month is $3 every day. Put it in bitcoin and hold onto it. If you didn't practice DCA consistently in 2022, you can make it a goal for the new year that starts in 48 hours.

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The only thing that is important as a trader here in the crypto industry is that we will not give up on our belief in cryptocurrency, as a financial solution to our problem...

For a trader, it is more important to get a profit than faith in cryptocurrency itself. Therefore, it does not matter for a trader whether the market is in a bearish or bullish cycle. In this case, the volatility, which is the highest in the crypto market, is more important for the trader.

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December 30, 2022, 04:13:02 PM
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Since I am not a pro trader, so holding is the better option for me. I don't care much about predictions those been saying there will not be a bull or Bitcoin will go zero. But I can't hold longer. My habit is getting the advantage of the volatile, I sell my holding when having some profits and buy back into the dip. Doesn't matter if it's Bitcoin or altcoin, I follow the same strategy for all. If I miss any coin to make great profits then I move to another. That's how I hold my coins. Hold but take advantage of volatility.

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December 30, 2022, 06:41:41 PM
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Since I am not a pro trader, so holding is the better option for me. I don't care much about predictions those been saying there will not be a bull or Bitcoin will go zero. But I can't hold longer. My habit is getting the advantage of the volatile, I sell my holding when having some profits and buy back into the dip. Doesn't matter if it's Bitcoin or altcoin, I follow the same strategy for all. If I miss any coin to make great profits then I move to another. That's how I hold my coins. Hold but take advantage of volatility.
Holding is the way of choice and while not trading like a professional trader, you are making a wise choice. Instead of having to do something that we are not good at, it is better to do work that we already understand. Maybe in terms of profits it will be different from professional traders, also the time needed will be much longer than those who are already pros. But this is part of minimizing the losses that you will get when you force yourself to do something you don't understand. Do this kind of thing, if we don't want to be at a higher risk.

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December 30, 2022, 07:54:45 PM
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I am one of those traders that are not favoured with daily trading, I only jump into the market when I observed a slight opportunity that I have a strong conviction about. And I currently have sum bucks I put into bitcoin for a long term purpose waiting for a bull in price and another sum I do use for opportunity I see in the market based on volatility of the coin am interested in, finally I have my normal business I run too. Now going by the percentage on each over 100% my normal business I run takes in 60%, then 30% for hodlin and 10% for trading based on opportunity I see in the market.

Wether hodlin for long term  or day trading , anyone that's convenient for you as a trader  should be what you engage into and not to follow what others as doing. Do what profits you as the end point of each strategy is profit making and nothing less.

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