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January 06, 2023, 10:21:58 AM
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If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.
Indeed. Well, it's understandable that many of us still prefer to trade for short term gain regardless of the profit. However, not everyone is successful to profit at this time that the market is not moving upward consistently and no major changes has been made due to the recent issues that happened (FTX and Luna). So I agree that it's better to just hold if you know trading is not good anymore for you to earn. This season is really ideal to fill our bags and hold long as long as you can.

Anyway, we have different decision when it comes to this because we know better what strategies could work for us to be a gainer.

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January 06, 2023, 11:52:57 AM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

I agree that holding is much better if you don't have enough skills in trading.

I'd say I use my funds 90% on holding while the remaining 10% is on futures. I only use enough funds that I can afford to lose while still learning, I just wanna take it in slow phase. Newbie traders are always in a hurry making huge profits overnight, that's why they always end up losing what they didn't expect to lose in the first place. The ending is they always chase their losses without any plan or knowledge that could guarantee their success.
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January 06, 2023, 05:00:44 PM
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All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice. Act and make investments as such.
Greed is what makes most traders lose their capital even if they have good profits. For me, I return my capital in full and put 50% of the profits into trading, and this reduces the risk. Holding is the best option that makes us achieve huge gains in the long run, but we must not bet all of our capital in one currency and always follow technical analysis, charts, and currency news. and we must adhere to a specific plan and collect fifty percent of profits as soon as we obtain them, then move on to another trading process, and most importantly of all, we choose the trading platform carefully on which we will deposit and HODL our currencies on it.

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January 06, 2023, 06:33:22 PM
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For a new trader, 20% is too much capital to start with, 5% is really a reasonable number but don't start with a demo account but start with a real account with 5% of that capital. A demo account will never give you real experience, when you start with a demo account, it can give you a good experience, but in the end, they are virtual money. And then, when you use it with a real account, your mentality will be completely different, and your experience will also be different, I will still call you new. Loss is inevitable when first trading, but what matters is what we get after those losses, that's what matters.
I would say 10% could be better as well. I did that, when I first started I used 100% of my money on each trade, literally every trade was all-in for me and of course I learned how bad that is eventually and how I should do better. After that I started to use like 50% of it each trade, and then lower and lower. Now, I have 90% on long term holding, and 10% on trading but not using all 10% of that each trade neither, I use smaller portion.

So, if you look at my each trade, it's like 2-3% of my entire portfolio and I make like 0.2% or so profit from it, maybe less. This allows me to make mistakes and not get burned, and still learn to be a better trader, even after so many years
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January 06, 2023, 09:31:29 PM
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All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice. Act and make investments as such.
Greed is what makes most traders lose their capital even if they have good profits. For me, I return my capital in full and put 50% of the profits into trading, and this reduces the risk. Holding is the best option that makes us achieve huge gains in the long run, but we must not bet all of our capital in one currency and always follow technical analysis, charts, and currency news. and we must adhere to a specific plan and collect fifty percent of profits as soon as we obtain them, then move on to another trading process, and most importantly of all, we choose the trading platform carefully on which we will deposit and HODL our currencies on it.
On the time that you are making out some profits then for sure you would really be thinking off on how you would really making it even more and this is something a certain investor or trader to do on which you
shouldnt really make yourself chasing off for more profits.

Always consider out that risk management which is something that is really that much needed most of the time.Dont overtrade and dont make out that kind of desperation on making out
trades just because you had made out some money on your first tries. Market doesnt always go along on what we are expecting and we should really keeping those things
in mind.
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January 06, 2023, 10:01:49 PM
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in the investment world there are several types of investors, there are people who want quick profits because they don't have time to wait for years and there are people who don't know how to day trade, or who don't have time to day trade so these people choose to do hodl , of course even in this matter of doing hodl the person who put a lot of money and wait for years may be the person who will make a profit

for example a person who has 100$ and does hodl for 3 years and has a profit of 300$, in my opinion I do not see that person having much advantage, but a person who takes 30,000$ and holds it for 3 years to obtain a profit of $90,000 for that person will be very advantageous and it will be worth it for him to have made the sacrifice of doing hodl for 3 years, summarizing Hodl and more advantages when you put a lot of money

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January 07, 2023, 07:51:32 AM
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If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

There's no need to continue in this current bitcoin price when all you do is keep losing money in the trades, If the trading especially for those using  scalping technique is ain't working out well for you it's rather potent to use such money for this accumulation period as all it takes is just patient believing that the bull period will eventually kick off...
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January 07, 2023, 08:17:10 AM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

That is a good advice in my opinion, when it comes to building up a crypto portfolio it makes a lot of sense to split our funds into different categories. HODL investing has been one of most profitable strategies when it comes to Bitcoins, that is why I would always recommend any new trader to leave at least some of his money in a long term account and don't trade it short term. It's like with your bank account, you leave some money in the savings account while you invest other parts into stocks and bonds. A 80/20 split or even 90/10 would be a good approach for any beginner. Like this you have at least some money to trade with and get experience. I still remember my first few trades I did in the stock market and how much money I used for bad trades. I didn't really lose a lot of money, but I had to hold some of my positions for more than a year for them to turn a profit. The more experience you have the higher the percentage of the money we use for active trading should be.
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All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice. Act and make investments as such.

This mostly applied to investing, a trader isn't supposed to hodl unless you're trading for a very long time. Trading naturally should do with you taking advantage of the price difference in the market and that means you can buy and sell your coins as many times as possible even with in the interval of a day. As a trader your major concern should be how you can profit from the market now and not in the future.

Future thinking are for holders and they shouldn't care about the current movement of the market as their strategy should always involved holding for the future. You can be both a trader and an investors as both are profitable when you understand what you're doing and doing it right.

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January 07, 2023, 05:07:58 PM
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who have just joined and have plans to invest in crypto currency this year I really say that you are very lucky,
because holding crypto currency from this year until maybe 2025 is a very good thing,
considering according to the bullish cycle of crypto currency is once every 4 years and 2023 might be the start of this cycle journey.
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January 07, 2023, 06:20:53 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

I agree that holding is much better if you don't have enough skills in trading.

I'd say I use my funds 90% on holding while the remaining 10% is on futures. I only use enough funds that I can afford to lose while still learning, I just wanna take it in slow phase. Newbie traders are always in a hurry making huge profits overnight, that's why they always end up losing what they didn't expect to lose in the first place. The ending is they always chase their losses without any plan or knowledge that could guarantee their success.
In crypto-currencies, some tries to hold and some are willing to trade. Since trading takes less time, the returns are not very high, while holding takes more time, but there is a chance of getting good returns later. Moreover, holding is very useful in terms of risk. If you can hold in this current bearish market it will be very profitable. Some investors panic at a time when holding is needed. As a result those investors cannot hold. And when they decide to hold, it is considered a good time to sell. So I think an investor should be well aware of the importance of holding and should know it's proper time. If you lose in trading there is no way to get it back but holding asset prices can be multiple x even if the current price decreases.

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January 08, 2023, 09:45:32 AM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Trading is a much much better way to make profit if you know how to trade, it's not even close, you could make 50x more trading than holding if you are a good trader, and that's just for one year, if you know how to trade and do it for a few years then we are talking about tons of difference and not even close. This means you should learn how to trade and how to be a good trader.

However, if you are not good at it, then it's not smart to make this type of decisions and just hold it. That's where holding becomes better because when you are hodling you are basically making bigger differences and better results since trading would be a terrible way if you don't know how to trade.

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January 08, 2023, 12:11:37 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

 Op I believe that this is sound advise for those who are suffering significant losses during this bad market. For individuals who are not skilled enough in trading, it will be a fantastic time to hold some coins, especially Bitcoin, for the upcoming bull run. However, I continue to think that some traders make far more money than those who hold investments for like years or longer. but all depends the coin you are holding.

Since the market is currently in a bear market and difficult to predict, it will even be preferable for newbies to be accumulating Bitcoin rather than considering trying trading. As for me, I find that holding is preferable than short-term trading because trading requires strong research.

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January 08, 2023, 09:46:41 PM
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Newbie traders should know that they should use the amount of money they can afford to lose to trade.


We can see bitcoin at its low price, instead of some people to just DCA and accumulate, they may prefer to trade, I will advice you not to lose the coming opportunity as some people might lost in the last bull run. Some people are believing that there will be no bull run again in a 4 year cycle, I am not still one of that people, I believe we are still going another round again.

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

I agree that holding is much better if you don't have enough skills in trading.

I'd say I use my funds 90% on holding while the remaining 10% is on futures. I only use enough funds that I can afford to lose while still learning, I just wanna take it in slow phase. Newbie traders are always in a hurry making huge profits overnight, that's why they always end up losing what they didn't expect to lose in the first place. The ending is they always chase their losses without any plan or knowledge that could guarantee their success.
In crypto-currencies, some tries to hold and some are willing to trade. Since trading takes less time, the returns are not very high, while holding takes more time, but there is a chance of getting good returns later. Moreover, holding is very useful in terms of risk. If you can hold in this current bearish market it will be very profitable. Some investors panic at a time when holding is needed. As a result those investors cannot hold. And when they decide to hold, it is considered a good time to sell. So I think an investor should be well aware of the importance of holding and should know it's proper time. If you lose in trading there is no way to get it back but holding asset prices can be multiple x even if the current price decreases.
So it does really shows that it would really be mattering on someones goals or perspective on how they should really be gonna dealing off with this unpredictable market.There's no way that we could really be able

to tell or on how should other people do make out their trading or investment whether it would be traded up actively or just simply would be holding.We know that not all does have the patience when it comes to
holding for too long before they could see up some profits and also we know that its not that assured that we could make one in the future.

Hold if you do see that it is worthy to do so or trade it up if you dont have the patience in doing so, its up actually into your own choice.

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January 08, 2023, 10:24:02 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Trading is a much much better way to make profit if you know how to trade, it's not even close, you could make 50x more trading than holding if you are a good trader, and that's just for one year, if you know how to trade and do it for a few years then we are talking about tons of difference and not even close. This means you should learn how to trade and how to be a good trader.

However, if you are not good at it, then it's not smart to make this type of decisions and just hold it. That's where holding becomes better because when you are hodling you are basically making bigger differences and better results since trading would be a terrible way if you don't know how to trade.

But in the situation that we keep on losing, it was an indication that trading is not the right place for us. It was an indication that we need to leave and holding seems to be the best option now. We have to accept that sometimes we fail at one area but it opens another opportunity on the other side. Let us say that holding is not really a profitable option during the bear season but I see the benefits of this during the bear season. Well, we can do trading again when the bull season comes.
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January 08, 2023, 11:57:58 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Trading is a much much better way to make profit if you know how to trade, it's not even close, you could make 50x more trading than holding if you are a good trader, and that's just for one year, if you know how to trade and do it for a few years then we are talking about tons of difference and not even close. This means you should learn how to trade and how to be a good trader.

However, if you are not good at it, then it's not smart to make this type of decisions and just hold it. That's where holding becomes better because when you are hodling you are basically making bigger differences and better results since trading would be a terrible way if you don't know how to trade.

But in the situation that we keep on losing, it was an indication that trading is not the right place for us. It was an indication that we need to leave and holding seems to be the best option now. We have to accept that sometimes we fail at one area but it opens another opportunity on the other side. Let us say that holding is not really a profitable option during the bear season but I see the benefits of this during the bear season. Well, we can do trading again when the bull season comes.
Have you ever imagined to holding $1,000 and losing $600 then topping up back to $1,000 bit then hitting with the all time low to get lost 80% to $200 only ... that time indeed a stressful time , even if you use the money that you can afford to lose , that's how crazy crypto when you do the holding randomly.

You need to have a through analysis still to have your holding in the right path.

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January 09, 2023, 01:31:34 AM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Why not hold 100% for long term gains? If they are losing money it doesn't make much sense to continue insisting on this practice. Instead of losing 20% of their portfolio today, they should be profiting 20% more futurely, from long term tradings. I think someone who attempted day trade for a considerable length of time must feel regretful if he calculates how much he has already lost with bad trades. That represents money that could be put in good use if he had simply held for longer, until the market started pumping again. People venturing into daily trading must think carefully if it worths to have more headaches, spend more time to end losing money after all.

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January 09, 2023, 12:52:25 PM
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My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?
Why not hold 100% for long term gains? If they are losing money it doesn't make much sense to continue insisting on this practice. Instead of losing 20% of their portfolio today, they should be profiting 20% more futurely, from long term tradings. I think someone who attempted day trade for a considerable length of time must feel regretful if he calculates how much he has already lost with bad trades. That represents money that could be put in good use if he had simply held for longer, until the market started pumping again. People venturing into daily trading must think carefully if it worths to have more headaches, spend more time to end losing money after all.

Better understanding and how they can handle the risk while playing with day trades, there's a need of good assessment if you think
that you are not getting any good outcome with your day trades.

For sure there are different views regarding to this matter and those who can manage day trade have their own opinions about your statement.

Whatever strategy, either hold or do day trade or scalping, the intention remain the same, gaining profits is what traders are targeting
and if they can achieve that then it's a good trade for them.
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Whatever strategy, either hold or do day trade or scalping, the intention remain the same, gaining profits is what traders are targeting
and if they can achieve that then it's a good trade for them.


I agree with this.While personally I have always and still am against daily trading because I consider it the same as gambling,something in which you have no control over,in gambling you have no control over the slot machines you play and in trading you have no control on external market factors doing the same as those slot machines,making you lose money in the long run.

What I love and call a profitable business usually is to hold the coins,or mine and hold the coins during time exactly like ours,a deep crypto winter and sell in the next bull run,it take patience to do this but it is I think a guaranteed trade that will make you profit in the long run.

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January 09, 2023, 06:43:58 PM
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Whatever strategy, either hold or do day trade or scalping, the intention remain the same, gaining profits is what traders are targeting
and if they can achieve that then it's a good trade for them.

Patience is highly practicable in this strategy, holding from the bear market to the bull season would turned out profitable only when one chooses the good projects to invest in. Scalping also brings profits on the table but it's very risky since it deal with massive timing and observation of the candle sticks. Scalping also leads to panic if one is still a newbie in the market, motion is not stable and very difficult to deal with, with the up and downs of the market, one can easily make the wrong decisions which will lead to either lose or liquidation of trading accounts.

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