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July 19, 2023, 12:58:37 PM |
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The match between nassr vs celta vigo already ended last night. Ronaldo club being humiliated by celta vigo. Celta vigo was destroying al nassr with 5-0 as the final score. Cristiano Ronaldo's Al-Nassr were on the receiving end of a 5-0 thumping in his first pre-season friendly this summer, as they lost to Celta Vigo on Monday night.
Ronaldo played 45 minutes of the match, which saw Marcelo Brozovic make his debut for the Saudi Pro League side. The first half was a goalless draw, but it all fell apart when Celta Vigo opened the floodgates after the break in Faro. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12308627/Cristiano-Ronaldos-Al-Nassr-spanked-5-0-Celta-Vigo-pre-season-friendly-saw-Marcelo-Brozovic-make-debut-Saudi-club.htmlIt was not surprising me. The fact that if football was a game for 11 players. it's not only 1-2 players in the club. It seems like that al nassr needs to buy more european player. That being said that if a few good players are still nothing. The team gonna be good if al nassr will buy more european club. GGWP for al nassr. There must be so many improvements to be made before the first match against ettifaq. With the money they have and also not closing the possibility of other clubs that are in one ownership by the Public Investment Fund which is also the owner of Al Hilal, Al Ittihad and Al Ahli it is not impossible to bring in more players who play in Europe and of course that is preferred by clubs whose players are targeted by SPL clubs because they get fresh funds especially if the players being targeted are those they really want to sell, but the question will be whether it is possible for a club in SPL to be filled by more than 50% foreign players? , because every league has rules. That is why the leagues in Europe remain at the top because the level of play of their local players is at the same level as foreign players so there is always a balance in the game. The defeat experienced is an illustration that sports based on teams will be successful not because of one or two players but teamwork.
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July 19, 2023, 01:22:08 PM |
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I could agree when you say that the Glazer family have messed up with the club. But they don't have any intention to sell the ownership, at least in the near future. Sheikh Jassim Bin Hamad Al Thani of Qatar and Jim Ratcliffe of INEOS were interested in purchasing the club, but in the last few days both of them have come out with statements accusing the Glazer family of arrogance. Qataris are claiming that Glazers have asked a price that is manytimes the fair valuation, while Glazers are adamant that they will not transfer the ownership cheaply. Let's see who blinks first.
So, what's point for glazer to offering manchester united to the investors if the family is not willing to sell the club? The fact that if glazer was a greedy family. This family wants 6 billions for MU while 5 billions can be considered as good amounts of money that being offered by jassim. Sir Jim is also trying to offer its best price for glazer. If what you said above was true and then glazer should not have an intention to sell the club. it sounds non sense. Glazer's valuation was actually non sense. Jasim has sent the best price for MU to the glazer. I hope that glazer will able to make a decision regarding the ownership of club. The main problem is there are some members of family refused to sell their shares. That has become the main problem why jassim is not able acquiring manchester united till this moment.
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July 19, 2023, 01:35:12 PM |
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One good thing about Saudi teams spending too much money to buy expensive players from top European teams is they give good money to these European teams, mostly when a player joins Saudi teams, it means he can't play in the European teams anymore and they can make a good amount of money by selling the players they don't need. They usually invest this money to buy other players or grow younger talents.
It is true that at this time there are still pros and cons among the public regarding the transfer of European players to the Saudi league team and it is true that they have forgotten that this transfer process will also make the previous team benefit in money that even exceeds the player's market value. Certainly the steps taken by the Saudi league are mutually beneficial and no one is harmed at all. Maybe the only thing that is quite detrimental for European players is not being able to win the major titles they want because they are more interested in big money, but we also can't blame that because they have families they have to provide for. So, in my opinion, it's better for us to simply enjoy the player's career journey and they must have determined what is best for his career.
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July 19, 2023, 01:47:19 PM |
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So, what's point for glazer to offering manchester united to the investors if the family is not willing to sell the club? The fact that if glazer was a greedy family. This family wants 6 billions for MU while 5 billions can be considered as good amounts of money that being offered by jassim. Sir Jim is also trying to offer its best price for glazer. If what you said above was true and then glazer should not have an intention to sell the club. it sounds non sense. Glazer's valuation was actually non sense. Jasim has sent the best price for MU to the glazer. I hope that glazer will able to make a decision regarding the ownership of club. The main problem is there are some members of family refused to sell their shares.
That has become the main problem why jassim is not able acquiring manchester united till this moment.
It won't come as a surprise to me if the glaziers are still the owners of the manchester united fc by the winter windows, they're are a confused set of people, no wonder there are complains from most fans on social media That they've ruined the club, all they do is collect dividends yearly without making more investments into various sections of the team, recently they've been fined €300,000 by fifa for some breaches in the financial fair play rules and also same ffa rule has made it a bit difficult for new signings to come in without them triming the squad. However according to research it is said that manchester united board are unhappy and claim that the Saudi Pro League is ruining their plans in the current transfer window, they believe that the SPL is causing the inflation of price of numerous players across Europe, but i consider that an excuse for not being able to sell their players or attract buyers with a better fee due to the high wages of most united players and some clubs across Europe won't be willing to buy them for such fee or pay them such wages, whereas the clubs from the Saudi league are attracted to players from other top European clubs and signing them for a huge sum of money but not attracted to manchester united players, i feel that's why the united board is coming up with such claim, if truly they did.
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this beautiful cartoon currently shows the situation in the current transfer window. K. Benzema, R. Firmino, N. Kante, R. Neves, K. Koulibaly, M. Brozovic, S. Milinkovic-Savic and E. Mendy are just a few players who have followed the path of big money and left the european football stage for the saudi arabian pro league ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FF1UxhtvaQAEglbc%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dsmall&t=665&c=Ca5blwWoFpZFqw)
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July 19, 2023, 02:36:21 PM |
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Apparently Arabian clubs hasn't stopped to hijack Liverpool players because after gets Fabinho and Jordan Henderson now there was other club who interested to Liverpool player Luis Diaz and it say Al Hilal who really serious want him and they will attempts to get him this summer and reported first proporsal is being formed that Al Hilal will bid not less than 50 millions and Liverpool hasn't respond it yet this rumour but most likely they will reject this offer because Liverpool still needed Diaz service especially after losing Fabinho and Henderson that they don't want to losing more players besides that Diaz too is important player for Liverpool and if he hasn't get injured Klopp was always playing him regularly
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July 19, 2023, 04:39:04 PM |
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this beautiful cartoon currently shows the situation in the current transfer window. K. Benzema, R. Firmino, N. Kante, R. Neves, K. Koulibaly, M. Brozovic, S. Milinkovic-Savic and E. Mendy are just a few players who have followed the path of big money and left the european football stage for the saudi arabian pro league ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FF1UxhtvaQAEglbc%3Fformat%3Djpg%26name%3Dsmall&t=665&c=Ca5blwWoFpZFqw) That's right, it didn't take a year for the Saudi league to succeed in bringing in these European players and of course the magnet that attracted them to join the Saudi league team was the abundant salary each season. We can see in the picture that one person is sitting waiting for his friends to join, namely Cristiano Ronaldo and unexpectedly, after 6 months, other European players have started to follow in his footsteps to be able to make a lot of money in the Saudi league. Well, we are still waiting for more European players to come to this league before the summer closes. Anyway, I also found a picture on twitter which is quite interesting and it is the transfer of European players so far to saudi league clubs except for Cristiano Ronaldo who first joined last winter. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FY25wCX6q%2Fphoto-2023-07-19-23-35-15.jpg&t=665&c=sKI9R11uCCDCgw)
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July 19, 2023, 06:33:32 PM |
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Apparently Arabian clubs hasn't stopped to hijack Liverpool players because after gets Fabinho and Jordan Henderson now there was other club who interested to Liverpool player Luis Diaz and it say Al Hilal who really serious want him and they will attempts to get him this summer and reported first proporsal is being formed that Al Hilal will bid not less than 50 millions and Liverpool hasn't respond it yet this rumour but most likely they will reject this offer because Liverpool still needed Diaz service especially after losing Fabinho and Henderson that they don't want to losing more players besides that Diaz too is important player for Liverpool and if he hasn't get injured Klopp was always playing him regularly
Club in the Saudi Arabian League is competing to bring in several European players and now as a Saudi Arabian league shows the world that they are able to do whatever they want and especially in football. Luiz Diaz is still an important player in the Juergen Klopp squad and I think he will be maintained, losing Fabinho and Jordan is definitely Liverpool must secure Luiz Diaz, especially in the Liverpool transfer market not so fast in pursuing new players today. But if in the end Luiz Diaz will also be released, the power of Liverpool next season will be quite chaotic and problematic and Jurgen Klopp must really consider it. Not playing in the Champions League Liverpool must show good performance next season because they have to pursue finishing in three or four big standings, losing some important players will have a big impact on Liverpool.
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July 19, 2023, 06:35:42 PM |
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BTW, Al Nassr is banned from signing anymore European players, due to a dispute with Leicester (regarding the transfer fee for Ahmed Musa). They were planning to bring Hakim Ziyech and Domenico Berardi to Saudi Arabia.
As for FIFA's punishment, I just found out. It turns out that this is a matter of buying Ahmed Musa who played for Leicester City from 2016 to 2018. Then moved to Al Nassr and helped Al Nassr become the 2018/19 Saudi Arabian League champions. This shouldn't be a problem regarding money, because An Nassr has a lot of money at the moment. Maybe they forget, but this is really bad for the club's image in Europe. In addition to this heavy loss, it seems that they are prohibited from carrying out transfer activities for 3 periods. Whatever the dispute is, I am sure that they are going to end up getting that done for sure and they are going to be quite rich when they do that. I mean the yare rich and could buy out any problem in the end and should be doing that now as well. The problem with Leicester feels like a money issue, some bonus issue and I bet that they will be capable of doing whatever they want. The European player ban is also a silly one because no team should be banned from buying a player from all of the continent, that's just way too big and that should not be possible, if you want then maybe do not get any from England, that could make sense I understand that but making it all of Europe makes no sense. In the end we will see them handle it for sure.
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ITs ok we all see a lot of player joins the tournament but still dont know if the people its gonna follow them and see the games, and also i dont know how this players are gonna perform, some of them maybe take this like a "holidays" and they play at the 80% of their capabilities. Take an eye on that.
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Apparently Arabian clubs hasn't stopped to hijack Liverpool players because after gets Fabinho and Jordan Henderson now there was other club who interested to Liverpool player Luis Diaz and it say Al Hilal who really serious want him and they will attempts to get him this summer and reported first proporsal is being formed that Al Hilal will bid not less than 50 millions and Liverpool hasn't respond it yet this rumour but most likely they will reject this offer because Liverpool still needed Diaz service especially after losing Fabinho and Henderson that they don't want to losing more players besides that Diaz too is important player for Liverpool and if he hasn't get injured Klopp was always playing him regularly
The Clubs in this league are quite deserving of applause, they have succeeded in hijack Europa top players. But in my opinion, will bid not less than 50 million is still too small to be able to bring in Luis Diaz because currently according from transfermark, he current market value aslo in 75 million. If Al Hilal is serious about signing Diaz, it should be will bid not less than 80 million ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Luis Diaz is a great player and yes he is an important player for Liverpool, although Liverpool are have Cody Gakpo and also Diogo Jota, but to deepen the strength of their squad surely Liverpool will not let him go.
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July 19, 2023, 08:27:15 PM |
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Apparently Arabian clubs hasn't stopped to hijack Liverpool players because after gets Fabinho and Jordan Henderson now there was other club who interested to Liverpool player Luis Diaz and it say Al Hilal who really serious want him and they will attempts to get him this summer and reported first proporsal is being formed that Al Hilal will bid not less than 50 millions and Liverpool hasn't respond it yet this rumour but most likely they will reject this offer because Liverpool still needed Diaz service especially after losing Fabinho and Henderson that they don't want to losing more players besides that Diaz too is important player for Liverpool and if he hasn't get injured Klopp was always playing him regularly
IMO, Liverpool do need an overhaul in their squad, they need fresher players. So, if there are several Liverpool players offered by the Saudi club. they can let him go, other than that Klopp will get additional budget funds to bring in the new arrival he wants. for Jordan Henderson, it deserves to be released and replaced by a younger player. Fabinho, this player is also very inconsistent. however, it looks like Klopp could still keep him if he is included in his project next season. To be honest, I don't know much information regarding rumors of Liverpool players. for Luis Diaz, too bad he had to join a Saudi club. The problem is, he is still relatively young at 26 years old. Klopp can still very much count on him in his squad, so it would be a shame if he finally accepted an offer from a Saudi club. although Liverpool need new additional ammunition, I don't hear many rumors that Klopp is hunting for front line players. So, as you said Liverpool will not let Diaz go.
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July 19, 2023, 08:46:26 PM |
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BTW, Al Nassr is banned from signing anymore European players, due to a dispute with Leicester (regarding the transfer fee for Ahmed Musa). They were planning to bring Hakim Ziyech and Domenico Berardi to Saudi Arabia.
Al Nassr is banned by FIFA from signing new players until they pay Leicester City a £390,000 debt. This should not be a problem for a financially sound club. They should be able to pay the debt without much stress. Saudi league clubs should also be careful because UEFA is not happy with the way players are moving to the Arabian nation. They can be given a strict punishment if any abnormality is dictated from their financial transactions. The match between nassr vs celta vigo already ended last night. Ronaldo club being humiliated by celta vigo. Celta vigo was destroying al nassr with 5-0 as the final score.
It's just a friendly game and a warm up for the next season. Five goals is not a good score but the most important thing is to learn lessons from the game. Al Nassr coach should be able to analyse the game and make the needed changes. The first half was fine with a goalless scoreline but Ronaldo missed a clear chance to put the Saudi side ahead. But it's all good. Well still wierd that they didnt pay debt they owe to Leicester,for them its nothing and this should be resolved fast. Also the defeat against Celta came in the second half after all of their first squad players left the field plus once they left they got a red card that caused such a big result. But still this shows that this Saudi teams dont have a roster and just got humiliated against a middle spanish team SPL has enough money to pay for the transfer of any player that they want instead of owing Leicester City. This will enable them buy more players of their choice to make their league very strong. Some players don't care anymore to play in the European league because they have been attracted to the salary that the Saudis pay. I still know that there are some players that no matter the fat pay being offered by the Saudis,they wouldn't go there to play because they want to win trophies and also to participate in European leagues. In no time SPL will be very interesting because the new players that are moving over to Saudi,and it will be very competitive.
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July 19, 2023, 09:03:25 PM |
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BTW, Al Nassr is banned from signing anymore European players, due to a dispute with Leicester (regarding the transfer fee for Ahmed Musa). They were planning to bring Hakim Ziyech and Domenico Berardi to Saudi Arabia.
Al Nassr is banned by FIFA from signing new players until they pay Leicester City a £390,000 debt. This should not be a problem for a financially sound club. They should be able to pay the debt without much stress. Saudi league clubs should also be careful because UEFA is not happy with the way players are moving to the Arabian nation. They can be given a strict punishment if any abnormality is dictated from their financial transactions. The match between nassr vs celta vigo already ended last night. Ronaldo club being humiliated by celta vigo. Celta vigo was destroying al nassr with 5-0 as the final score.
It's just a friendly game and a warm up for the next season. Five goals is not a good score but the most important thing is to learn lessons from the game. Al Nassr coach should be able to analyse the game and make the needed changes. The first half was fine with a goalless scoreline but Ronaldo missed a clear chance to put the Saudi side ahead. But it's all good. Well still wierd that they didnt pay debt they owe to Leicester,for them its nothing and this should be resolved fast. Also the defeat against Celta came in the second half after all of their first squad players left the field plus once they left they got a red card that caused such a big result. But still this shows that this Saudi teams dont have a roster and just got humiliated against a middle spanish team SPL has enough money to pay for the transfer of any player that they want instead of owing Leicester City. This will enable them buy more players of their choice to make their league very strong. Some players don't care anymore to play in the European league because they have been attracted to the salary that the Saudis pay. I still know that there are some players that no matter the fat pay being offered by the Saudis,they wouldn't go there to play because they want to win trophies and also to participate in European leagues. In no time SPL will be very interesting because the new players that are moving over to Saudi,and it will be very competitive. This doesn't seem to be an SPL issue, but Al Nassr specifically. What I don't get is why do they let this situation escalate such that even the FIFA needs to come out with a ruling when at the same time they are paying hundreds of millions of dollars in salary? It doesn't even matter now whether they have the money for more transfers, for now they are officially banned by the FIFA to sign any players until the debt with Leicester is settled. That is what this article says.
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July 19, 2023, 09:17:08 PM |
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BTW, Al Nassr is banned from signing anymore European players, due to a dispute with Leicester (regarding the transfer fee for Ahmed Musa). They were planning to bring Hakim Ziyech and Domenico Berardi to Saudi Arabia.
I read the news and became shocked. What is the implication of this on Al Nassr as well as other Saudi clubs in their rush to move all the European players to their league. They have been money but I wonder why this is an issue for them. And is this banned really because of the debt they owe Leicester or just some sort of Witch-hunting. I do know if this type of issue has happened in the past and what FIFA's reaction was. If there is anyone who has information of this please let me know.
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It's just a friendly game and a warm up for the next season. Five goals is not a good score but the most important thing is to learn lessons from the game. Al Nassr coach should be able to analyse the game and make the needed changes. The first half was fine with a goalless scoreline but Ronaldo missed a clear chance to put the Saudi side ahead. But it's all good.
Pre season never tells the full stories as there's nothing at stake when teams lose, you might see a team playing badly at preseason but as the league starts officially, they become unstoppable. It could be they learnt from the pre season or the players weren't just turning up during the preseason games. Nobody wants to get injured during preseason and miss the chances of playing when the seasons starts although that's not am excuse for poor person because when a team is playing badly in preseasons, it can mess with the players psychology and they begin to doubt how the team is going to perform during the season. I wasn't happy with the scoreline of the Al Nassr friendly match they played, the coach needs to work on the team spirit and them been able to play without Ronaldo in the team. They should realized that the guy is old and can't be bailing them out of all situations like this when they get disgracd. The team needs to seat up and Ronaldo needs to put his head in the game because missing clear chances isn't something he's known for and he shouldn't start destroying his legacy or just retire already as there's nothing else to prove.
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It's just a friendly game and a warm up for the next season. Five goals is not a good score but the most important thing is to learn lessons from the game. Al Nassr coach should be able to analyse the game and make the needed changes. The first half was fine with a goalless scoreline but Ronaldo missed a clear chance to put the Saudi side ahead. But it's all good.
Pre season never tells the full stories as there's nothing at stake when teams lose, you might see a team playing badly at preseason but as the league starts officially, they become unstoppable. It could be they learnt from the pre season or the players weren't just turning up during the preseason games. Nobody wants to get injured during preseason and miss the chances of playing when the seasons starts although that's not am excuse for poor person because when a team is playing badly in preseasons, it can mess with the players psychology and they begin to doubt how the team is going to perform during the season. I wasn't happy with the scoreline of the Al Nassr friendly match they played, the coach needs to work on the team spirit and them been able to play without Ronaldo in the team. They should realized that the guy is old and can't be bailing them out of all situations like this when they get disgracd. The team needs to seat up and Ronaldo needs to put his head in the game because missing clear chances isn't something he's known for and he shouldn't start destroying his legacy or just retire already as there's nothing else to prove. The game between Al Nassr and Celta Vigo ended with Celta convincingly winning by 5 goals to nil which is a good result for the Spanish club. However it was just a friendly game which is not known to be a match where players give their all and again the other set of people who's calling out Cristiano Ronaldo for not being able to help his team win should know that Ronaldo is above 38 years already and shouldn't be expected to deliver great performances like he's used to
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July 19, 2023, 10:41:02 PM |
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Well, hopefully the problems experienced by Al-Nassr can indeed be resolved quickly. Because supposedly with Al-Nassr's current financial condition, of course, the arrears of unpaid debts will be quite easy to settle. If this is not resolved quickly, the FIFA sanctions will become more difficult to withdraw. But after seeing that Al-Nassr is still active in the hunt for new players, I think Al-Nassr is quite confident that he can solve this problem with FIFA.
It is rather strange to see Al Nassr not paying their debts which occurred in the 2018 season when Al Nassr bought Leicester City players. I think Al Nassr will easily pay off their Debt if they do. So I don't know what made them not pay this debt. I see Al nassr as a team that I probably knew earlier than any other team because it was Al nassr who made a splash in the saudi arabia league after they signed Ronaldo. I think Al Nassr will pay off their debt before the deadline comes. On the other hand Al Nassr is one of the teams that is quite influential for the progress of the Saudi Arabian League so that their behavior could tarnish the name of their league if they do not pay their debts. So recently, it seems that Al-Ahli has succeeded in getting Mahrez in this transfer window.
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July 19, 2023, 11:56:04 PM |
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Another offer from the Saudi team and this time they want to hire Malcom, he is currently playing for Zenit but Malcom was playing in Barcelona before. Al Hilal wants to hire this Brazilian forward for the next season. However, Malcom's contract ends in 2027 and Al Hilal needs to buy this player from Zenit.
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It's just a friendly game and a warm up for the next season. Five goals is not a good score but the most important thing is to learn lessons from the game. Al Nassr coach should be able to analyse the game and make the needed changes. The first half was fine with a goalless scoreline but Ronaldo missed a clear chance to put the Saudi side ahead. But it's all good. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) clearly this was not just a friendly game, before this game ronaldo said he would not play in europe again because the quality of europe games had become low, so i believe rafael benitez wanted to show ronaldo the stark difference between the leagues in europe with the saudi arabia league, celta de vigo is not a stronger team in la liga and we all know that, but it seems to me that ronaldo is very proud that instead of being humble and accepting that the quality of european soccer is not decreased, on the contrary it has always been increasing and that the problem is not in the quality of European soccer but yes, the problem is with him due to his advanced age and his high salary that he doesn't want to give up he was forced to have to go and play in a very low quality league, the native players of saudi arabia don't even know how to make good shots, so it was visible how Celta de Vigo won very easily, today we will have Al Nassr's game against benfica, if benfica plays with at least 50% of their main players I believe they can score 7 goals in that game, it would be a very easy victory from benfica, the only team that I see Al Nassr winning in this calendar of friendlies would be PSG who always have problems in defense and are without messi
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