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July 23, 2023, 07:16:06 PM
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While I agree that this league is improving really fast in these last couple of years,until this reaches a good European level it will take at least another 2-3 decades before they become competitive.They have facilities,modern ones,a lot of money and this if used well and managed well can bring the quality of this league up really fast.I remember a few years ago when this league was one of the worse to watch with goals scored in an amateur way and no real competition was in this league as a few teams kept dominating it.I know that now with the coming of Ronaldo and Benzema the level of quality of this league has improved considerably but I hope more other players come here to improve it even further.
The Saudi league is mostly improving because of spending too much for the top players the buy from Europa but I think the best they can do is to first invest to grow the young telants from these countries and hire better coaches to teach them a better style of the game which can help them grow much more.
The massive signing of foreign players and coaches to the Saudi Arabian league is beginning to make me wonder the main objectives of the Arabians. These super rich Arabs have the money to set up the best football facilities and throw lavish contracts on young and old foreign players to lure them to the league and some of us are not looking at the bigger picture. The way they Arabs are going with their spendings, I won't be surprised if Saudi Arabian clubs begin to dominate the Asian champions league in the coming years.

I guess this is one of the goals, dominate the Asian Champions League, but it won't stop there. They are also drawing a lot of attention to their domestic league as the World Cup 2030 is also on their to do list. But what do the European clubs do when the Saudis decide to launch a super league and simply 10 x the prize pool of what the UEFA is offering in the Champions League? Will there be a threshold where clubs can't say no anymore to a super league? It feels like this is just the beginning of a massive project.

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July 23, 2023, 07:22:05 PM
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Now there are rumors of a return transfer from the Saudi league team, namely Al-Hilal, who have agreed terms with Aleksandar Mitrović from Fulham. Even the Fulham coach also confirmed that Aleksandar Mitrović is not working in the squad. It seems that the mainstay striker for the Serbian national team is also starting to be interested in the big salary offered by Al-Hilal and as we know he is still 28 years old and that is the same age as Ruben Neves who first joined Al-Hilal some time ago. It looks like the Saudi league will continue to have European players coming in and this time Aleksandar Mitrović, who arrived in his prime, also decided to end his career in Europe sooner.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1682858153585659906

28 years old is such an age that I do not think that he closes the door behind him by moving to the Saudi League. After playing for a couple of years (and earning a lot of money), he will be in demand at the age of 30. The fact that the level of play in Saudi Arabia is lower does not mean anything - it is obvious that now the best physical trainers, physiotherapists, doctors, etc. will work there. He won't lose his form or skills playing there.

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July 23, 2023, 07:29:17 PM
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I guess this is one of the goals, dominate the Asian Champions League, but it won't stop there. They are also drawing a lot of attention to their domestic league as the World Cup 2030 is also on their to do list. But what do the European clubs do when the Saudis decide to launch a super league and simply 10 x the prize pool of what the UEFA is offering in the Champions League? Will there be a threshold where clubs can't say no anymore to a super league? It feels like this is just the beginning of a massive project.
Regardless of the reasons why some Arab Pro League teams spend so much money to recruit top players, the bottom line is that it has attracted a lot of public attention towards them. The Arab Pro League is expected to be more competitive as these teams have built up quality teams with some quality players who used to be top players in European competition, that's good from a competitive standpoint.

It's certainly possible that they are aiming for a bigger move in player transfers, but I think some of their guesses are correct. That's definitely not a problem because they have a lot of investors who are willing to spend a lot of money to build a quality team.

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July 23, 2023, 07:35:01 PM
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Al Nassr in the 2 friendly games in which Al Nassr played against teams from Europe had humiliating defeats, first they lost against celta de vigo by 5 - 0, in a game in which Al Nassr did not manage to score at least one goal, in the second game they lost against benfica in a game in which they only scored 1 goal but conceded 4 goals, with these results Al Nassr conceded 9 goals in just 2 games and scored 1 goal only and from now on 2 two days Al Nassr will play against PSG, luckily for Al Nassr and that PSG will not play with mbappe, so I ask:

Could it be that this is Al Nassr's great chance to beat a team from Europe in these friendly games?

currently Al Nassr has the following players that in my opinion are the best in their squad: Cristiano Ronaldo, Marcelo Brozović, Seko Fofana, Anderson Talisca, David Ospina, Telles.

but it is still very insufficient to make them win the Saudi league, I don't know how many foreign players are allowed to be playing on the field, but in my opinion Al Nassr needs to hire more players, especially in the midfield which is where their big problem is, even if you change coach while there is some rule that prevents many foreign players on the field, so these many signings will be of no use, in my opinion the field should only have 3 internal players

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July 23, 2023, 07:46:30 PM
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It looks like Malcom's transfer finally took place for 60 million euros Zenit sold the player to Al-Hilal and now the record of the Russian Premier League is broken. Previously, the most expensive player was Hulk, who was sold for 56 million dollars to a Chinese club.
There was also the transfer of Leandro Paredes from Zenit to PSG, but there the transfer amount was smaller only 40 million euros.
In general, the Saudi clubs are determined to buy all the players they can reach and apparently set themselves the task next season to enter the 10 strongest leagues in the world.



Source https://tribuna.com/en/news/football-2023-07-22-60m-russian-forward-set-to-join-saudi-arabias-biggest-club/

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July 23, 2023, 07:49:07 PM
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The Saudis made very large offers, even European clubs lost financially to Saudi clubs.
But so far, the goals and targets of the Saudi League for the future, in the long term, cannot really be known for certain.

Don't compare Saudi clubs with Europeans because Europe has far earlier had strong clubs and better playing strategies.
But in the future we don't know what will happen, it could be that Saudi Arabia has clubs that can compete with Europe.

You know, it's a long time to get to that point. The maximum that we will be able to see in the near future is friendly matches between Saudi league clubs and European clubs, because by definition they do not qualify for the European Cup. Will they build something of their own, similar to the European cups? Also an interesting question

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July 23, 2023, 09:22:32 PM
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You know, it's a long time to get to that point. The maximum that we will be able to see in the near future is friendly matches between Saudi league clubs and European clubs, because by definition they do not qualify for the European Cup. Will they build something of their own, similar to the European cups? Also an interesting question
i noticed that the Arab League is trying to build branding that is on par with the European League because many of the Saudi Arabian teams are currently buying top players in the European League at very high prices, will this phenomenon stop? i'm sure it won't be because there will be more and more teams in the Arab League who buy Europe's top players, the very shocking news is that Sadio Mane continues to be linked with Al Nassr, if Mane officially moves to the Arab League then all the attention of football fans will be on the Arab League.

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July 23, 2023, 09:44:33 PM
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I guess this is one of the goals, dominate the Asian Champions League, but it won't stop there. They are also drawing a lot of attention to their domestic league as the World Cup 2030 is also on their to do list. But what do the European clubs do when the Saudis decide to launch a super league and simply 10 x the prize pool of what the UEFA is offering in the Champions League? Will there be a threshold where clubs can't say no anymore to a super league? It feels like this is just the beginning of a massive project.

The Arab league is going to get bigger than it is right now, but it will not be as big as Europe.
One major thing they lack is they don't produce their own stars. If you look at European football and South American football, you'll notice that they produce their own stars. I feel these two continents (Europe and South America) has the best leagues and they don't have the kind of money the Arabs have. It's not by signing superstars to the league. It's about the quality of football. They have to look for ways to play quality football. In S. America they don't have have that kind of money but their football is good, all that is needed is right funding and they can compete with Europe.

I know that the world is dynamic. Years ago the Italian league was the best league, there was a time American clubs were highly rated just like European clubs, so I won't be surprised if I come to earth in 200 years and see another continent dominating football, but what I know is that football won't be dominated by signing big players and giving them lucrative deals.

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July 23, 2023, 09:54:22 PM
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but it is still very insufficient to make them win the Saudi league, I don't know how many foreign players are allowed to be playing on the field, but in my opinion Al Nassr needs to hire more players, especially in the midfield which is where their big problem is, even if you change coach while there is some rule that prevents many foreign players on the field, so these many signings will be of no use, in my opinion the field should only have 3 internal players

Al Nassr needs wingers that can cross the ball into the opponents penalty box so Ronaldo can attack with his head or other strikers playing at that moment can attack. I thought Hakim Ziyech deals was going to go through but was disappointed that it failed as I thought he would be that player to strength the wings at Al Nassr. Al Nassr losing against European teams isn't a big deal because they don't have the quality in Europe even though Ronaldo said the quality is reducing. He wasn't wrong with that statement that didn't mean Saudi Pro league is better than European league.

The quality of the Saudi Pro league is improving but yet not upto that of European teams. Is the FIFA ban on Al Nassr still active, if it isn't then they have to go back to the market, preferably from the premier league to hunt for good wingers. I thought they would gone for more Chelsea players as we had Pulisic there and others but pulisic has now gone to Ac Milan. Al Nassr needs more players to be able to compete for the Saudi Pro league trophy because other clubs are busy shopping for players to strengthen their squad,.

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July 23, 2023, 10:47:29 PM
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but it is still very insufficient to make them win the Saudi league, I don't know how many foreign players are allowed to be playing on the field, but in my opinion Al Nassr needs to hire more players, especially in the midfield which is where their big problem is, even if you change coach while there is some rule that prevents many foreign players on the field, so these many signings will be of no use, in my opinion the field should only have 3 internal players

It's very disappointing for Al Nassr that Hakim Ziyech could not pass his medical, but I think it's not the end of the transfer window yet and they'll definitely bring in some more players to assist Cristiano Ronaldo, although they've had several huge defeats against some European clubs but more players would join the team shortly and they'll challenge for the trophy next season, if you notice Ronaldo is not very strong as before to make those runs and they're really in need of more players to back him up, he still had eyes for goals and with the right wingers you'll bring out his best form.

 SPF is the most participating league in this year's transfer window and has attracted top European players compared to the MLS, I feel the presence of Ronaldo last year has made it possible for players especially most of his compatriots to move to the league, maybe due to the huge wage bill they throw at players as well, they are not affected by the financial fair play rule and are financially capable  of attracting player with very huge wage bill, also many European club see the SPF as an agenda to offload player demanding huge wages from their club.

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July 23, 2023, 10:51:42 PM
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There are rumors that Al-Nassr wants to sign Ousmane Dembele. Ousmane Dembele's contract has a release clause of 50 million euros. Ousmane Dembele has often been the target of criticism due to some injury problems. His career at Barcelona also fell short of expectations. However, despite this, he rejected Al-Nassr's offer and said he wanted to stay at Barcelona.

In recent days, we have seen that Arab teams take action to transfer young football players instead of stars who are nearing the end of their careers such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema and N'Golo Kante.

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July 23, 2023, 11:06:02 PM
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It's very disappointing for Al Nassr that Hakim Ziyech could not pass his medical, but I think it's not the end of the transfer window yet and they'll definitely bring in some more players to assist Cristiano Ronaldo, although they've had several huge defeats against some European clubs but more players would join the team shortly and they'll challenge for the trophy next season, if you notice Ronaldo is not very strong as before to make those runs and they're really in need of more players to back him up, he still had eyes for goals and with the right wingers you'll bring out his best form.

 SPF is the most participating league in this year's transfer window and has attracted top European players compared to the MLS, I feel the presence of Ronaldo last year has made it possible for players especially most of his compatriots to move to the league, maybe due to the huge wage bill they throw at players as well, they are not affected by the financial fair play rule and are financially capable  of attracting player with very huge wage bill, also many European club see the SPF as an agenda to offload player demanding huge wages from their club.
Failure was triggered in Ziyech transfer as he failed media tests due to a knee injury which was found. After that happened, Al Nassr failed to sign him. For now it looks like Ziyech is still an attraction for a team from League saudi arabia to sign him in this transfer window but it's likely that the club will not be Al Nassr.

Yes, seeing how active Al Nassr is in this transfer window, it is very likely that they will bring in more players in the transfer market. For now Al Nassr is often associated with Sadio Mane because Sadio Mane has agreed to go to another club after Sadio Mane is no longer Tuchel priority for next season. It looks like Sadio Mane transfer to Al Nassr will be successful because Sadio Mane has sent a signal that he agrees to join Al Nassr. We just have to wait for the latest news on this progress where Al nassr will hold talks with Bayern munich on the release price of Sadio Mane.

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There are rumors that Al-Nassr wants to sign Ousmane Dembele. Ousmane Dembele's contract has a release clause of 50 million euros. Ousmane Dembele has often been the target of criticism due to some injury problems. His career at Barcelona also fell short of expectations. However, despite this, he rejected Al-Nassr's offer and said he wanted to stay at Barcelona.

In recent days, we have seen that Arab teams take action to transfer young football players instead of stars who are nearing the end of their careers such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema and N'Golo Kante.

Dembele has turned down a lucrative offer from saudi club. The goal has been also reported it

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/no-cristiano-ronaldo-barcelona-winger-ousmane-dembele-turns-down-200m-offer-al-nassr/blt0a7cc5f380f03359
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Ousmane Dembele has reportedly turned down an offer worth €200 million (£173m/$223m) that would have seen him join Cristiano Ronaldo at Al-Nassr.

Dembele was still becoming the main choice for xavi. I see no chance for him to go to the saudi club even when he gets a lucrative offer from saudi club. Demble is still wanna playing together with barcelona. he has been also become the main choice by xavi as a winger.
No reason for dembele to leave from barcelona to play for al nassr. Dembele was just showing his loyallity to the barcelona despite a very big offer from saudi club.

The same thing also happened with other player of barcelona. Saudi tried so hard to bring them to the saudi pro league but it's all failed.

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There are rumors that Al-Nassr wants to sign Ousmane Dembele. Ousmane Dembele's contract has a release clause of 50 million euros. Ousmane Dembele has often been the target of criticism due to some injury problems. His career at Barcelona also fell short of expectations. However, despite this, he rejected Al-Nassr's offer and said he wanted to stay at Barcelona.

In recent days, we have seen that Arab teams take action to transfer young football players instead of stars who are nearing the end of their careers such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema and N'Golo Kante.
Saudi teams won't hesitate to signed players who are ready tk exits european football. They are pursuing any player they believe is valuable in European football. Al Nassr is the leading team in terms of player signings this season, having spent massive sums on players this summer and still intending to spend more. Ousmane Dembele is a top-tier frontline player for the blaugrana, and losing him this summer would be devastating. Xavi Hernandez has included the Frenchman in his plans for next season, and despite his severe injuries, I believe he will recover, as he usually does.

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July 24, 2023, 02:00:42 AM
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Saudi teams won't hesitate to signed players who are ready tk exits european football. They are pursuing any player they believe is valuable in European football. Al Nassr is the leading team in terms of player signings this season, having spent massive sums on players this summer and still intending to spend more.
They are very rich and don't have to think too much about money spending if it matches with their national strategies for developments of sports, economics and other aspects in their nation. So far looks like Saudi Professional League has such great support from their government and they will look around Europe to buy as best players as they can with their budgets.

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Ousmane Dembele is a top-tier frontline player for the blaugrana, and losing him this summer would be devastating. Xavi Hernandez has included the Frenchman in his plans for next season, and despite his severe injuries, I believe he will recover, as he usually does.
Dembele moved to Barcelona with a very high cost transfer from Dortmund but he made a lot of disappointment there. Only since Xavi appearance in Barcelona, Dembele improved his performance, fitness and professional so that he gradually gains a solid position in Barcelona which is a foundation for him to be called for French national squad.

However with player like Dembele, I guess he will not reject chances from Saudi Arabia if he can earn lot of money there.

Regardless of the reasons why some Arab Pro League teams spend so much money to recruit top players, the bottom line is that it has attracted a lot of public attention towards them. The Arab Pro League is expected to be more competitive as these teams have built up quality teams with some quality players who used to be top players in European competition, that's good from a competitive standpoint.
You are right about the bottom line, which I wrote above too. Latest changes in Saudi Professional League have potential to change a lot of things in Saudi Arabia and I really believe that it was shed a green light from Saudi Arabian government too.

Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema are first two biggest bricks to help the league becomes more exciting and get more attraction from Europe. The league matches already are broadcasted on many European television channels and it is beginning. After this summer, the league will get more contracts with Television, communication companies from Europe.

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July 24, 2023, 04:52:13 AM
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The quality of the Saudi Pro league is improving but yet not upto that of European teams. Is the FIFA ban on Al Nassr still active, if it isn't then they have to go back to the market, preferably from the premier league to hunt for good wingers. I thought they would gone for more Chelsea players as we had Pulisic there and others but pulisic has now gone to Ac Milan. Al Nassr needs more players to be able to compete for the Saudi Pro league trophy because other clubs are busy shopping for players to strengthen their squad,.

We have not heard any further information regarding FIFA ban on Al Nassr however based on local media reports Al Nassr only had to pay Leicester City 390k in additional fees which I think is not a problem I mean they have a lot of money so it's not a problem you know that's equivalent to 12 hours of Ronaldo salary. This deal happened in 2018 Al Nassr brought in Ahmed Musa from Leicester with a transfer fee of €16 million + additional fees with the conditions that apply, Al Nassr must have a reason why they didn't complete the payment however FIFA has decided that Al Nassr must pay for it, if not, then they cannot bring in new players from outside or local players and other sanctions are ready to wait.

We know Al Nassr are planning to sign Sadio Mane which means the problem with Leicester City must be resolved first this is an indication that the problem may be resolved in the near future or even resolved. On this Monday we should hear further news because the two parties had previously held a meeting but somehow they haven't announced it yet even though Munich did not want to hinder his move, it's no secret that Sadio Mane is not included in Thomas Tuchel's plans for next season so there should be no reason to stay in Munich.

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July 24, 2023, 05:37:46 AM
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Al Nassr in the 2 friendly games in which Al Nassr played against teams from Europe had humiliating defeats, first they lost against celta de vigo by 5 - 0, in a game in which Al Nassr did not manage to score at least one goal, in the second game they lost against benfica in a game in which they only scored 1 goal but conceded 4 goals, with these results Al Nassr conceded 9 goals in just 2 games and scored 1 goal only
That proves that their attacking department hasn't worked as well as it should have since they were unable to break through their opponents' defenses in pre-season matches, although that can't be completely used as a benchmark, because later in the league, Al Nassr will face a different club from the club that made them lose these two times

and from now on 2 two days Al Nassr will play against PSG, luckily for Al Nassr and that PSG will not play with mbappe, so I ask:

Could it be that this is Al Nassr's great chance to beat a team from Europe in these friendly games?

Maybe that will be another question, will Mbappe's absence in the pre-season squad greatly reduce the Paris club's performance? so that it will be easily beaten by Al Nassr, because I doubt enough just by bringing in players from Europe then Al Nassr's game will immediately be able to compete with clubs from Europe, even though this is just a friendly match that might not go very seriously but Luiz Enrique will certainly try to convince many parties that his presence there is not something wrong and he will prove he can keep PSG strong in Ligue 1, one of which is by not failing in pre-season matches from any club.

currently Al Nassr has the following players that in my opinion are the best in their squad: Cristiano Ronaldo, Marcelo Brozović, Seko Fofana, Anderson Talisca, David Ospina, Telles.

but it is still very insufficient to make them win the Saudi league, I don't know how many foreign players are allowed to be playing on the field, but in my opinion Al Nassr needs to hire more players, especially in the midfield which is where their big problem is, even if you change coach while there is some rule that prevents many foreign players on the field, so these many signings will be of no use, in my opinion the field should only have 3 internal players

Yeah, we see that Arab clubs haven't finished in the transfer market, including at Al Nassr, maybe before the transfer season closes there will be another name confirmed to be at this club to play with Ronaldo and several other players, and Al Nassr's target is of course to become the Saudi Pro League champion, only they will face the same club incessantly in the transfer market this time.

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July 24, 2023, 06:54:24 AM
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Saudi teams won't hesitate to signed players who are ready tk exits european football. They are pursuing any player they believe is valuable in European football. Al Nassr is the leading team in terms of player signings this season, having spent massive sums on players this summer and still intending to spend more. Ousmane Dembele is a top-tier frontline player for the blaugrana, and losing him this summer would be devastating. Xavi Hernandez has included the Frenchman in his plans for next season, and despite his severe injuries, I believe he will recover, as he usually does.
Dembele will not leave from barcelona. He has been confirmed it. Al nassr needs to find a new target to replace him. Demebele happy to stay in barcelona even longer. Saudi club shall not need to pursue him anymore caused by he will stay for the next season.
Al nassr is now trying to search for another talent to replace dembele. As far as i know that if chelsea is not trying to give up in offering ziyech for nassr. I remember that ziyech was failed to go to the SPL due to the fees.
I think that's gonna be a good news for al nassr to get ziyech from chelsea. Al nassr is also targeting eric bailly as the next one. He was a defender.

I wonder who will be recruited by nassr to replace dembele as an old target by the club. Al nassr will be facing some strong clubs like PSG in upcoming match. Ronaldo is trying to make sure his club will be in the best condition when nassr gonna face PSG.

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July 24, 2023, 07:00:05 AM
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Saudi teams won't hesitate to signed players who are ready tk exits european football. They are pursuing any player they believe is valuable in European football. Al Nassr is the leading team in terms of player signings this season, having spent massive sums on players this summer and still intending to spend more. Ousmane Dembele is a top-tier frontline player for the blaugrana, and losing him this summer would be devastating. Xavi Hernandez has included the Frenchman in his plans for next season, and despite his severe injuries, I believe he will recover, as he usually does.
Dembele will not leave from barcelona. He has been confirmed it. Al nassr needs to find a new target to replace him. Demebele happy to stay in barcelona even longer. Saudi club shall not need to pursue him anymore caused by he will stay for the next season.
Al nassr is now trying to search for another talent to replace dembele. As far as i know that if chelsea is not trying to give up in offering ziyech for nassr. I remember that ziyech was failed to go to the SPL due to the fees.
I think that's gonna be a good news for al nassr to get ziyech from chelsea. Al nassr is also targeting eric bailly as the next one. He was a defender.

I wonder who will be recruited by nassr to replace dembele as an old target by the club. Al nassr will be facing some strong clubs like PSG in upcoming match. Ronaldo is trying to make sure his club will be in the best condition when nassr gonna face PSG.
Dembele has confirmed that he will remain at Barcelona for next season and he still wants to play in a competitive competition, right now the Saudi Arabian team is very brave to recruit European football stars and with high fees makes several players not hesitate to play with the Saudi Arabian team, but this is all inseparable from the effect of Ronaldo's arrival to Al nassr and even now Al nassr's rival, Al Ahli has brought in several top European players to be able to compete more strictly with Al nassr.

After Dembele, I haven't seen any recent news regarding rumors of Al Nassr's new signing for a striker position in Europe's top teams.



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July 24, 2023, 08:27:28 AM
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There are rumors that Al-Nassr wants to sign Ousmane Dembele. Ousmane Dembele's contract has a release clause of 50 million euros. Ousmane Dembele has often been the target of criticism due to some injury problems. His career at Barcelona also fell short of expectations. However, despite this, he rejected Al-Nassr's offer and said he wanted to stay at Barcelona.

In recent days, we have seen that Arab teams take action to transfer young football players instead of stars who are nearing the end of their careers such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema and N'Golo Kante.
Saudi teams won't hesitate to signed players who are ready tk exits european football. They are pursuing any player they believe is valuable in European football. Al Nassr is the leading team in terms of player signings this season, having spent massive sums on players this summer and still intending to spend more. Ousmane Dembele is a top-tier frontline player for the blaugrana, and losing him this summer would be devastating. Xavi Hernandez has included the Frenchman in his plans for next season, and despite his severe injuries, I believe he will recover, as he usually does.
Indeed, the Saudi league team is very hungry to be able to bring in European players this summer and they compete with each other to be able to get the best. We know the Saudi league team is very strong from a financial point of view and that's what makes European players choose to join the Saudi league team even though it can be said that they can still be productive in Europe.

Other than that, I think all of them will continue to do their jobs until the desired targets are met. About Ousmane Dembele, I don't think he will leave Barcelona because he is an important player for Xavi's project and even though he rarely gets minutes due to frequent injuries, I don't think he will rush to go to the saudi league.

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