Why is it becoming a thread for casinos refusing paying very huge winnings?

[libert19]

I don't think it's becoming trend, it's just that when some casino don't pay — other casinos are also assumed to be same, assumptions are ofc far from truth.

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[peter0425]

I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

that thread you  shared are enough for you to understand what answers your questions .

I'm not sure why need to put it here because what happened on that winning for me is also questionable , 43 million dollars jackpot for single slot ? not sure if this is really a legit win and there is in that malfunction in that machine.

I don't think it's becoming trend, it's just that when some casino don't pay other casinos are also assumed to be same, assumptions are ofc far from truth.

and that happened also in 2016 and that had already answered Im sure.

[wxa7115]

I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

It is easy to imagine that depending on the size of the win different procedures are put in place to determine the legitimacy of the win.

In the case of a small win most casinos will not do a through investigation as it is more important to pay their customers as fast as possible, however when the win has such a huge size then it is normal for casinos to investigate more deeply and if they determine there is something wrong with the win they can refuse to pay, especially as the amount of money we are talking about in the example that you are bringing is not small at all.

[Coin_trader]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

You will know the answer if you read carefully the full details of the article attached. The casino getaway because they use technicality combined with there terms of services to conclude that the slot machine display an error figure. Besides that huge jackpot win is really massive if the woman is just betting few cents since there’s a max win per bet amount.

I believe the investigator see this which is why they accept the casino reason to getaway on a huge debt. The woman needs a very good lawyer that will find all the evidence that the slot machine is not malfunctioning at that time.

Besides there’s a lot of same cases like this even on online casino and most of the time casino getaway once they use the reason that there software is malfunctioned that covers by there terms to protect them.

[Fundamentals Of]

Is this really a trend? Could you provide us all the links to other similar news to say that this is becoming a troubling trend? That news was really bothering me especially because it seems the casino is not penalized or fined for it. It got away with it. That was such a bad precedent. Other casinos might also do it if somebody wins the jackpot.

Online casinos also have this tendency. I have encountered complaints where gamblers are accusing casinos of not paying the jackpot prizes. The casinos would usually respond by saying the gambler had committed violations. This is also a bad practice. It is unfair and even cheating to point out violations only when the player won the jackpot.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

A thread? Or you mean trend?

He means a trend.

I don't think it's becoming trend <...>

Is this really a trend? Could you provide us all the links to other similar news to say that this is becoming a troubling trend?

No, it's not a trend. Just because there have been some cases does not mean that it is. Surely the OP has also seen some cases on Scam Accusations, but not all of them by far are the result of casino wrongdoing. It's not uncommon to find out in one of those accusations, that the accuser was actually a cheater who got caught.

[xSkylarx]

It was stated that the machine had malfunctioned, and the owner told her that she would need to come back the next day to claim her winnings. Though she already took a photo as proof, there is something fishy about it, that she needs to come back the next day. Though I am not saying all casinos are illegal, I am sure that mostly this is the case with the illegal ones that will try to evade and make excuses just to not have those winning since if this were a legal one, you could easily go after them. Also, I think this is a rare case, but if this happens to you, make sure you don't leave the premises without having assurance or proof that you'll be getting the money.

[uneng]

I don't know if it's becoming a trend. Personally I just see isolated events of gamblers who had huge wins denied by the casino where they played. The root of the problem here in my opinion is that the justice system is legitimizing the excuses adopted by the casinos in such cases against gamblers. It has happened on this case pointed in OP, it has happened in previous cases as well. And when the legal system's authorities make a final decision there is nothing victims can do against it. It's unfair and doesn't even make sense, but that is how this world works.

[traderethereum]

Maybe the casino doesn't have the money to pay the winners so they refuse and instead say the machine is broken and other reasons.
Winners also can't complain anywhere because the casino will try to stick to its position, saying it's not their fault.
And when taken to court, the casino will still win and will not pay the winners.
Or the casino really wants to avoid paying for the big wins that the winners get.

[adzino]

I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

You mean tren? It's not a trend for casinos to not pay their winners. Only shitty casinos with bad reputation and those that have ill intention tries to deny payments to their players. You hear more about those not getting paid, because the winners (and those who won big) never actually announces that they have won huge.

Sad that the woman who thought she won the jackpot ended up getting nothing. Since they are claiming the slot machine was malfunctioning, they should refund each and every bets that has been lost in the slot, at least pay her the max win!

[pawanjain]

I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

You could have continued the same thread instead of making a new one for the same.
What my concern is that how can a casino allow an amount as jackpot which they cant even afford ?
This raises my suspicion that the slot machine might actually be malfunctioned in which case the casino should pay a decent enough amount to the woman.
But they just offered a steak dinner which is lame.

[Sithara007]

There are two different things here. Let me explain:

1. Casinos refusing to honor legitimate winnings
2. Casinos refusing the winning, as it resulted from machine malfunction

In the first case, the courts would probably side with the winner, although recovering the amount is going to be a lengthy and tedious process. In the second case, legally the winner is not entitled to the reward. The win resulted from a machine malfunction and therefore it was invalidated. In short, the "winner" didn't win the reward and even if he goes to the court he may not get anything in the end.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I don't think it's becoming trend, it's just that when some casino don't pay — other casinos are also assumed to be same, assumptions are ofc far from truth.

I think Op is not assuming that every casino does not or no longer pays, but my assumptions is that he started this thread based on the fact that there have been several posts on this board about casinos that have refused to pay their winners of late.

And as we all know, bad news travels faster than good news, infact, most of the time, good news are not even considered as news as people tend to feel "its a normal thing, why should even be a news", but bad news travels fast as people most of the time affects readers positively or negatively in terms of emotion.

As we know, people gamble everyday, and many people win alot of money around the world, all this moneys are paid, its no news, but the moment any casino refuses to settle a winning due some issue, it becomes news instantly.

[Reatim]

There are two different things here. Let me explain:

1. Casinos refusing to honor legitimate winnings
2. Casinos refusing the winning, as it resulted from machine malfunction

These , Yeah you are good  in explaining those sides because people are solely interesting on how they claim this as scam while there are 2 sides to check on that matter because I have seen huge winning in Slot machine over the year but the problem is that in this? the involve amount is even higher than those lottery jackpot.

Maybe the casino doesn't have the money to pay the winners so they refuse and instead say the machine is broken and other reasons.
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that is a MAYBE , but what about the truth ? for me it is high believe that malfunctioned than it is a scam.

[Plaguedeath]

It's a human nature, how would someone need to pay huge money if there's a choice to avoid it? casino is a profit oriented business of course they will try to use any way in order to reduce the operational cost to maximize their profit. The problem is the license and the government are either weak or get bribed, so the gambler is lose on the court, while actually the gambler isn't done any fault.

[Bananington]

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Before you play with any casino, even offline Casino's, verify their reputation in paying out huge amounts to customers who won. A way to do that, is to get into a conversation with a customer there to know if they are regular customers who have been visiting longer than you have to know if they have ever heard of any case of the casino trying to avoid payment, It is possible to find these kind of people. There are still very good casinos that are not afraid of paying out huge winnings.

[klidex]

I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

It is possible that the casino does not want to pay because the amount is quite large and the casino feels at a loss because there are visitors who can win money with this large amount.
However, casino owners and managers do not think long beforehand that the impact of what they have done can damage their reputation and lose the trust of visitors to continue playing at the casino and greatly affect the continuity of the casino business that they have started and developed which can be destroyed.
So it would be even better if we want to play or bet to choose a casino that can be relied upon and truly trusted. Don't let incidents like this happen again if the number of winning numbers is greater.

[acroman08]

I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

do you mean trend? the difference between this and casinos that blatantly refuse to pay winnings is that the machine in that thread actually suffered a malfunction/glitch(according to the gambling commission that checked the machine). that being said, casinos should still be held accountable for the lack of maintenance that they are doing to their machine. anyway, I am saying this again, I am glad that the lady in that thread filed a lawsuit again against the casino and actually(hopefully since it mentioned that the case was settled out of court) something.

[swogerino]

The error of the woman was to agree to go away without signing a deal,a notary deal with the casino before moving out and coming back tomorrow.She gave enough time to the technical department of the casino to come up with whatever argument needed in order to not pay the woman,in the end it was the woman error as she believed the casino.

They say trust but verify and this was not the case here,I know it should not be the case and once you win any amount the casino should immediately pay you if you have not cheated but I think this to be an isolated case and huge casinos in Las Vegas really pay whatever amount,just remember the couple who played there for 40 years and when they were old,they won 75 million dollars paid in full by the casino.

[davis196]

You're standing in front of a machine, it won't pay, someone comes over and says it was malfunctioning.

I don't know what you could do in those situations really.

This kinda defeats the whole point of gambling, unless the main point is really just something else and the big wins are just a distraction...

The whole point of gambling is the casino to make money, not the gambler.
If you think that the whole point of gambling is the gamblers to actually make money, you are simply wrong.
Gambling is supposed to be a fun form of escapism, a bad habit that boosts the dopamine and adrenaline levels in your brain.
This isn't a way to make easy money.
Casinos refusing to pay big jackpots is basically the same as insurance companies refusing to pay big compensations when an insurance event occurs. The people, who are expecting to get their money will have sue both the casinos and the insurance companies.