MoparMiningLLC
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January 13, 2023, 02:46:03 AM |
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16 total addresses there - probably other sets based on the amounts Yes no reason to ever keep keys after a project has been completed - zero reasons wtf this screws all of us makers in a way as it draws doubt on us all.
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minerjones
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January 13, 2023, 02:53:16 AM |
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16 total addresses there - probably other sets based on the amounts Yes no reason to ever keep keys after a project has been completed - zero reasons wtf this screws all of us makers in a way as it draws doubt on us all. Yup agree 100%.... not your keys, not your coins. But you preach this already Our "hobby" of loaded coins is inherently a bad idea and against everything bitcoin stands for!!! I know it sounds harsh, but that is the reality of it all.... Plenty of non-loaded/DIY/ awesome collectibles out there.....
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vizique
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January 13, 2023, 02:54:24 AM |
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The only reason for an additional set of the private keys to exist was for a future scam.
^^ this Viz
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MoparMiningLLC
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January 13, 2023, 02:57:52 AM |
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Btw - Lesbian cows and those others on the txn were done today at 11 am
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ChiBitCTy
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January 13, 2023, 04:17:19 AM Last edit: February 26, 2023, 07:44:05 AM by ChiBitCTy Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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By the way, thank you YodasRedRocket for sharing the information as quickly as you did!
This @everyone- don't be afraid to speak up about things. If you discover something like Yoda did here, say so immediately. The faster you act, the better the chance of less people being hurt. If you're uncomfortable doing so, tell someone like myself who will. I have seen too much of a lack of action when it comes to scamming incidents over the years. The lack of action is extremely harmful. Peeling the cards- as others have said just use a pocket knife or razor and slightly peel one edge just far enough that you can then use your fingers to peel it off. I was unable to redeem multiple cold key cards using Ballet, but Coinomi eventually worked for me. I did have to do some cleaning of the cards, a little sticker residue prevented the cameras from being able to scan the QR's. I would encourage everyone to sweep any funded cards you have right now, don't wait. As for everything else, I am holding my tongue this evening. I knew Yogg well, and communicated with him via phone chats a good bit. I am at a loss for words and feel sick to my stomach.
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January 13, 2023, 04:25:38 AM |
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16 total addresses there - probably other sets based on the amounts Yes no reason to ever keep keys after a project has been completed - zero reasons wtf this screws all of us makers in a way as it draws doubt on us all. Yup agree 100%.... not your keys, not your coins. But you preach this already Our "hobby" of loaded coins is inherently a bad idea and against everything bitcoin stands for!!! I know it sounds harsh, but that is the reality of it all.... Plenty of non-loaded/DIY/ awesome collectibles out there..... Agreed, not you keys not your coins, we have been telling each other that for years. This is an example of why I don’t purchase any loaded coins, or at least anything with a large value, I don’t even like buyer funded items where the pub/priv keys are already provided, stick with DIY or unloaded Unfortunately this is not the first time this has happened and may not be the last, scammers will scam!
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This is heartbreaking. We will heal, but never fucking forget
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JayJuanGee
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
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January 13, 2023, 05:28:36 AM |
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By the way, thank you YodasRedRocket for sharing the information as quickly as you did!
This @everyone- don't be afraid to speak up about about things. If you discover something like Yoda did here, say so immediately. The faster you act, the better the chance of less people being hurt. If you're uncomfortable doing so, tell someone like myself who will. I have seen too much of a lack of action when it comes to scamming incidents over the years. The lack of action is extremely harmful. Peeling the cards- as others have said just use a pocket knife or razor and slightly peel one edge just far enough that you can then use your fingers to peel it off. I was unable to redeem multiple cold key cards using Ballet, but Coinomi eventually worked for me. I did have to do some cleaning of the cards, a little sticker residue prevented the cameras from being able to scan the QR's. I would encourage everyone to sweep any funded cards you have right now, don't wait. As for everything else, I am holding my tongue this evening. I knew Yogg well, and communicated with him via phone chats a good bit. I am at a loss for words and feel sick to my stomach. It seems to me that one of the ONLY ways to potentially remedy this matter is for Yogg to reimburse everyone who lost funds, yet that still would not revive the value of the cards.. but it could attempt making amends towards the value that was supposed to be on the cards.. to the extent that claims could be verified, too.... I know that my suggestion does not likely seem very practical in terms of verifying any claims that members may well have in regards to lost funds on their cards.. and surely Yogg may or may not still have the funds.. who knows? If he just started swiping funds in the past day or two, then he might still have the funds.. but surely likely, the reason that he swiped the funds in the first place was that he perceived that he needed the funds.. or that he is in a place of desperation.. .. Crying and/or feeling sorry for the matter does not seem to do much of anything.. if there were to be any kind of potential resolution.. I know that in the past that there had been members who taken value (bitcoins or whatever from members) and then had claimed that they were engaging in processes to attempt to reimburse members for their losses, but many times those past incidents ended up playing out as token efforts of reimbursement rather than actual material and meaningful restitution of what damages could be recovered - even though there are some cases in which members ended up getting reimbursed.. so yeah, surely does not seem to be a great possibility of reimbursing yet at this time.. but it would not be totally implausible that the funds had not actually been spent, yet... since the claims of funds on the cards having had been moved only seems to have started to happen within the past day or two. And, of course, I recommend the same as ChiBitCTy.. remove/swipe your funds as soon as possible, even if some stupid-ass scammer (Yogg in this case) claims to have limited the keys in which he supposedly has (had) access.... There is no way to prove such a case in which the keys had been generated by him, and he had already shown himself to have been a liar in terms of actually NOT destroying some (if not all) of the keys that were in his possession.
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1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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owlcatz
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January 13, 2023, 05:46:42 AM |
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The claim that he only found silver halving keys is 100% a LIE. He swept my gold halving cards at the same time. It was done 21 hours ago.
I apologize, I was only relaying what he told me. Please post all TXID's of any Brass or Gold card scamming here, I'll be gathering them up and sending them to the Police in Rouen - You may be surprised, but they know BTC. Many people in FR use BTC as bank accounts like Yogg did.
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owlcatz
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January 13, 2023, 05:48:07 AM |
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It seems to me that one of the ONLY ways to potentially remedy this matter is for Yogg to reimburse everyone who lost funds, yet that still would not revive the value of the cards.. but it could attempt making amends towards the value that was supposed to be on the cards.. to the extent that claims could be verified, too....
I know that my suggestion does not likely seem very practical in terms of verifying any claims that members may well have in regards to lost funds on their cards.. and surely Yogg may or may not still have the funds.. who knows?
If he just started swiping funds in the past day or two, then he might still have the funds.. but surely likely, the reason that he swiped the funds in the first place was that he perceived that he needed the funds.. or that he is in a place of desperation.. .. Crying and/or feeling sorry for the matter does not seem to do much of anything.. if there were to be any kind of potential resolution..
I know that in the past that there had been members who taken value (bitcoins or whatever from members) and then had claimed that they were engaging in processes to attempt to reimburse members for their losses, but many times those past incidents ended up playing out as token efforts of reimbursement rather than actual material and meaningful restitution of what damages could be recovered - even though there are some cases in which members ended up getting reimbursed.. so yeah, surely does not seem to be a great possibility of reimbursing yet at this time.. but it would not be totally implausible that the funds had not actually been spent, yet... since the claims of funds on the cards having had been moved only seems to have started to happen within the past day or two.
And, of course, I recommend the same as ChiBitCTy.. remove/swipe your funds as soon as possible, even if some stupid-ass scammer (Yogg in this case) claims to have limited the keys in which he supposedly has (had) access.... There is no way to prove such a case in which the keys had been generated by him, and he had already shown himself to have been a liar in terms of actually NOT destroying some (if not all) of the keys that were in his possession.
No funds will be repaid. He made it clear he's done. I don't know what else to do but urge peoplle to contact the the Rouen FR police force.
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January 13, 2023, 05:54:12 AM |
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Realistically what can the police do? I don't see how they could help in this situation
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FIAT IS DEAD TO ME. BITCOIN IS MULTI-GENERATIONAL SAVINGS. FEW UNDERSTAND. BITCOIN ONLY, NO SHITCOINS.
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January 13, 2023, 05:56:22 AM |
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Realistically what can the police do? I don't see how they could help in this situation
They will go to his place and confront him. It's stolen money after all
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January 13, 2023, 05:58:06 AM |
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Realistically what can the police do? I don't see how they could help in this situation
They will go to his place and confront him. It's stolen money after all I hope it's that simple and that the police take BTC seriously
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January 13, 2023, 06:09:20 AM |
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No funds will be repaid. He made it clear he's done. I don't know what else to do but urge peoplle to contact the the Rouen FR police force. Im good for now, now funds stolen yet. Somehow my silver set was the one that is still untouched But I am not sure if he is already done with all the cards - will track my remaining History Cards for now and will call it if something changes.
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January 13, 2023, 06:21:29 AM |
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No funds will be repaid. He made it clear he's done. I don't know what else to do but urge peoplle to contact the the Rouen FR police force. Im good for now, now funds stolen yet. Somehow my silver set was the one that is still untouched But I am not sure if he is already done with all the cards - will track my remaining History Cards for now and will call it if something changes. Why on earth would you do this? Just peel them.
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No funds will be repaid. He made it clear he's done. I don't know what else to do but urge peoplle to contact the the Rouen FR police force. Im good for now, now funds stolen yet. Somehow my silver set was the one that is still untouched But I am not sure if he is already done with all the cards - will track my remaining History Cards for now and will call it if something changes. Why on earth would you do this? Just peel them. TRACKING is too passive, it's an action based on what happened in the past, i.e track that/when the funds were swiped = too late to do anything. Realistically what can the police do? I don't see how they could help in this situation
They will go to his place and confront him. It's stolen money after all Criminal proceedings will commence hopefully and in those if his gambling addiction is actual he would be afforded help. Help is what he needs "IF" he has a gambling problem. It's up in the air ATM, is he still at his address? has he fled the country? he surely knows he is not anonymous. I know people are hurting and it's hard to swallow all this but as Kryptowerk says he needs help if what he told Owlcatz is true. Mopar and mj and others have pointed out that this event shocks the whole community and raises a question over other funded projects, past - present and future.
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Mbitr
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January 13, 2023, 07:33:29 AM |
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Sad, sad situation- I would never have thought this of yogg - I will try to speak with him in the next day or so , once he’s had time to think ! My cards are in my vault , so I won’t know for weeks if they’ve been swiped. I’ll have to assume the worst. Thankyou Yoda for bringing this to everyone’s attention so quickly - you have saved a lot of people a lot of BTC !
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LFC_Bitcoin
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I know people are hurting and it's hard to swallow all this but as Kryptowerk says he needs help if what he told Owlcatz is true.
Sad, sad situation- I would never have thought this of yogg - I will try to speak with him in the next day or so , once he’s had time to think ! Why are people treading lightly & treating yogg as some kind of victim here? Leave him negative trust, distrust him in your trust list & more importantly, if you are affected by this financially contact the police so he can be prosecuted & hopefully jailed. Police Nationale Police department in Rouen, France Address: 44 Bd de l'Yser, 76000 Rouen, France Closed ⋅ Opens 8:30 AM Phone: +33 2 35 07 85 70
Can somebody who had funds stolen please start a type 3 flag & let us know here so we can support it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=140827
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cygan
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January 13, 2023, 07:52:02 AM |
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✂ Also, feel bad for you @cygan, being put as the new CEO of coldkey while yogg likely knew he was going to fuck people over. Absolutely disgusted.
this is what it looks like and you can imagine how crude my night was... i got a dm tonight from a person who was close to yogg and who talked to yogg on the phone for a few hours this night. i will publish the whole message later today btw my writing under my profile i have now changed back to my old one
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January 13, 2023, 07:53:21 AM |
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Can someone explain in a single paragraph what happened here? Been trying to follow up the story. Who's yogg and what did he sell and what did he do that made everyone so upset? Thanks
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